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(NPR)   NPR's 50 best albums of 2013, and you haven't heard of any of them. Well, you might have heard of a couple, but those ones aren't nearly as good   (npr.org ) divider line
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2013-12-10 01:00:23 PM  
Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?
 
2013-12-10 01:04:35 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?


It makes me want to listen to some of these albums. Which might then, of course, make me feel out of touch and angry.
 
2013-12-10 01:16:59 PM  
James Hunter 6. "Minute by Minute". Listen to it. You'll like it.
 
2013-12-10 01:32:59 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?


Of all of the Best of 2013 lists I've seen, this is my favorite - it has a good balance of genres. As for the more obscure stuff they're touting, they're tone is more "Hey, you might enjoy this one, check it out." as opposed to say, Pitchfork's "What? You haven't heard this? Begone, slack jawed neanderthal! You are not worthy of the words of this page" vibe.
 
2013-12-10 01:33:21 PM  

Pocket Ninja: sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?

It makes me want to listen to some of these albums. Which might then, of course, make me feel out of touch and angry.


No, no, no... it's just for 2013.

So what if Heartless Bastards, Alabama Shakes, or somebody like Lucius isn't there... or your Deep Purple Live in Stockholm didn't make it.
 
2013-12-10 01:33:43 PM  

Snapper Carr: they're their tone


I saw it but too late to fix it.
 
2013-12-10 01:35:17 PM  

Snapper Carr: sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?

Of all of the Best of 2013 lists I've seen, this is my favorite - it has a good balance of genres. As for the more obscure stuff they're touting, they're tone is more "Hey, you might enjoy this one, check it out." as opposed to say, Pitchfork's "What? You haven't heard this? Begone, slack jawed neanderthal! You are not worthy of the words of this page" vibe.


Honestly not a bad list, why Yeezus was included I'll never understand.
 
2013-12-10 01:35:47 PM  
Huh. An NPR "best albums" list without Neko Case on it. That's one for the record books.

The dirty, shameful record books, but still...
 
2013-12-10 01:36:40 PM  

Snapper Carr: sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?

Of all of the Best of 2013 lists I've seen, this is my favorite - it has a good balance of genres. As for the more obscure stuff they're touting, they're tone is more "Hey, you might enjoy this one, check it out." as opposed to say, Pitchfork's "What? You haven't heard this? Begone, slack jawed neanderthal! You are not worthy of the words of this page" vibe.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-10 01:38:44 PM  
I finally had to give up listening to the All Songs Considered Podcast, because they came across as such insufferable douches.     Particularly Bob Boilen.  The only thing more predictable and derivative than the cheap Velvet Underground knock-off band is the cheap Lester Bangs knock-off critic.

If you're under the age of 30,   knock yourself out with all these obscure irrelevant indie garage bands and enjoy your fleeting youth.     If you're over the age of 50, like Bob Boilen, and you're still concerned about being cool, and you're the "old dude" at the concert trying to rock with the twenty-somehtings, know that you've completely wasted your finite time on this planet.   Pass the torch, and move on with your sad life.
 
2013-12-10 01:39:57 PM  

Snapper Carr: sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?

Of all of the Best of 2013 lists I've seen, this is my favorite - it has a good balance of genres. As for the more obscure stuff they're touting, they're tone is more "Hey, you might enjoy this one, check it out." as opposed to say, Pitchfork's "What? You haven't heard this? Begone, slack jawed neanderthal! You are not worthy of the words of this page" vibe.


I love NPR Music and the All Songs Considered podcast.  It's my favorite way of discovering new music.

They don't give me a snooty or hipsterish vibe at all.  It's always like "Here's some stuff we've heard and like.  Enjoy!"  I've often heard them say "I hope [artist] hits it big because they deserve it" which is pretty much the opposite of the hipster ethos.
 
2013-12-10 01:44:08 PM  
Lost me at Yeezus. (And I like hip hop / rap, as well as a lot of Kanye's past work.)

Admittedly I haven't heard the whole of Yeezus, but what I did hear was like cats in heat, without the tunefulness and rhythm.
 
2013-12-10 01:49:10 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?


Pretty much. And while I'm almost certain that NPR is trying very hard to be unique, I am sure that there are some gems on that list that I haven't listened to. In fact I was listening to Blood Orange earlier today on the way to work.
 
2013-12-10 01:49:22 PM  
The Latvian Radio Choir?  Really?  That group sold out  years ago.  Anyone who know anything about anything switched over to the Estonian Radio Choir instead.

NPR, I thought better of you!
 
2013-12-10 01:51:27 PM  

The Southern Logic Company: Snapper Carr: sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?

Of all of the Best of 2013 lists I've seen, this is my favorite - it has a good balance of genres. As for the more obscure stuff they're touting, they're tone is more "Hey, you might enjoy this one, check it out." as opposed to say, Pitchfork's "What? You haven't heard this? Begone, slack jawed neanderthal! You are not worthy of the words of this page" vibe.

Honestly not a bad list, why Yeezus was included I'll never understand.


I think Yeezus is this year's version of "Metal Machine Music" - people (especially critics) like to praise it to yank your chain. Consider it an inside joke.
 
2013-12-10 01:52:34 PM  
I've heard of four of those musicians.

/officially old
//does being a parent mitigate my lameness?
 
2013-12-10 01:54:04 PM  
I will give many of these a listen. I discovered Melody Gardot on NPR several years ago. Hopefully, this list will lead me to a new artist I like as much.


/my heart is as black as night
//but she can comfort ne
///yes, I know she's a bit crazy; don't care
 
2013-12-10 01:54:39 PM  
I grazed through the list and started to feel angry and unsettled.

Then I clicked on Buika, La Noche Mas Larga, and loved it.

Then I clicked on Bill Callahan and got angry again.
 
2013-12-10 01:55:06 PM  
NPR Music's 50 Favorite Albums Of 2013
December 10, 2013 8:07 AM

/"Own" Overgrown and Virgins
 
2013-12-10 01:55:26 PM  

kevinatilusa: The Latvian Radio Choir?  Really?  That group sold out  years ago.  Anyone who know anything about anything switched over to the Estonian Radio Choir instead.

NPR, I thought better of you!


All derivative of the Swedish Radio Choir -
 
2013-12-10 01:57:01 PM  
I haven't heard Southeastern yet, but jason Isbell is farking awesome!

My candidate for record of the year
John Fullbright - From The Ground Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD0ZJ6VV7zk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1WYCSshf6s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl0bsnjjDIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5teMqHsThI
 
2013-12-10 01:58:37 PM  

justinguarini4ever: Pretty much. And while I'm almost certain that NPR is trying very hard to be unique, I am sure that there are some gems on that list that I haven't listened to. In fact I was listening to Blood Orange earlier today on the way to work.


From their list that I would recommend:

Jason Isbell Southeastern

Laura Marling Once I Was An Eagle

Valerie June Pushin' Against A Stone
 
2013-12-10 02:00:11 PM  

gweilo8888: Lost me at Yeezus.


Yup, that's when I closed the tab too.
 
2013-12-10 02:01:58 PM  
Local area man surprised to find Yeezus on Best Of 2013 list
 
2013-12-10 02:07:15 PM  

punishmentforshoplifting: I've heard of four of those musicians.

/officially old
//does being a parent mitigate my lameness?



I've heard of five.  The onion on my belt is probably slightly fresher than yours.

/it's NPR
//it's their job to be pretentious, obscure, and eurocentric
 
2013-12-10 02:08:38 PM  
I soldiered on through Yeezus, discovered Lucius and San Fermin and found the song selected from the Vampire Weekend album to be quite good.  Not a bad list.
 
2013-12-10 02:09:03 PM  
They lost me at the picture of a hand holding a vinyl LP.

Vinyl?  Really?  Why do the hipsters like vinyl?
 
2013-12-10 02:12:38 PM  

gweilo8888: Lost me at Yeezus. (And I like hip hop / rap, as well as a lot of Kanye's past work.)

Admittedly I haven't heard the whole of Yeezus, but what I did hear was like cats in heat, without the tunefulness and rhythm.


Yeezus, for some reason, makes me think that Kanye's next work will be rap covers of Wisconson polka music, and be titled, "Yumping Yimminy!"

/Yes, I know.
//I have issues.
 
2013-12-10 02:15:16 PM  

mithras_angel: gweilo8888: Lost me at Yeezus. (And I like hip hop / rap, as well as a lot of Kanye's past work.)

Admittedly I haven't heard the whole of Yeezus, but what I did hear was like cats in heat, without the tunefulness and rhythm.

Yeezus, for some reason, makes me think that Kanye's next work will be rap covers of Wisconson polka music, and be titled, "Yumping Yimminy!"

/Yes, I know.
//I have issues.



I'm having a hard time putting "fark you like a Nubian, when those other Nubians let you down" into a 3/4 polka tempo.
 
2013-12-10 02:19:52 PM  
Missing:

skullsnbones.com

and

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-10 02:21:45 PM  
"those ones," huh?
 
2013-12-10 02:25:43 PM  

fireclown: They lost me at the picture of a hand holding a vinyl LP.

Vinyl?  Really?  Why do the hipsters like vinyl?



I tried getting back into the local scene here in Los Angeles last year.  I went to a show at the Satellite and saw a band I really enjoyed.  I went to their merch table to buy their cd but only saw vinyl.  I asked if they had a CD as I didn't have a record player, and the guy looked at me incredulously and said, "You don't have a vinyl player?"
The next week I went back, but this time the band was only selling their music on cassette.  I stopped going back because I don't own an eight track player or reel-to-reel either.
 
2013-12-10 02:26:53 PM  
How in the hell did Beard on the Moon not make that list?!
 
2013-12-10 02:30:00 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-10 02:31:18 PM  
Most I hadn't heard of but the few that I have heard of are overrated. Especially that Jason Isbell album, which is complete garbage. American Songwriter named that their #1 album. /facepalm.

Oddly his wife and sometimes touring partner, Amanda Shires, put out a blistering good record this year and it has been totally ignored.
 
2013-12-10 02:32:27 PM  
Listening to the clips of many I didn't know I have to agree this is a useful list. What does distress me is that many of the artists I did know seemed out of place in such good company. Vampire Weekend? Kanye?

Tim Hecker and Bill Callaghan were two nice finds, I thought. Kacey Musgrave sound interesting but I can think of a lot of other strong alt-country femal singers who could make such a list.
 
2013-12-10 02:36:26 PM  

coolpapabell: fireclown: They lost me at the picture of a hand holding a vinyl LP.

Vinyl?  Really?  Why do the hipsters like vinyl?


I tried getting back into the local scene here in Los Angeles last year.  I went to a show at the Satellite and saw a band I really enjoyed.  I went to their merch table to buy their cd but only saw vinyl.  I asked if they had a CD as I didn't have a record player, and the guy looked at me incredulously and said, "You don't have a vinyl player?"
The next week I went back, but this time the band was only selling their music on cassette.  I stopped going back because I don't own an eight track player or reel-to-reel either.


CASSETTE?  The worst format ever?  This is really making me want to belt on my onion and shout at a cloud.
 
2013-12-10 02:39:01 PM  

Snapper Carr: Of all of the Best of 2013 lists I've seen, this is my favorite - it has a good balance of genres.


Except for a complete lack of anything that might use a guitar to create the music. No rock & roll, no metal. This list is a bad joke.
 
2013-12-10 02:39:31 PM  

fireclown: CASSETTE?  The worst format ever?


It's a big thing in the DIY music scene to reuse old tapes for your recordings.  The more obscure or ironic the artist on the original, the more street cred you get.
 
2013-12-10 02:42:25 PM  
One of my favorite things about these lists for best album or artists is how farkers share their picks, which to me, usually end up being better then what is on the list. Some of the ones that have been added to my playlist from fark have been: Imelda May, Keb' Mo', Susan Tedeschi and Volbeat. Hopefully I'll add a few more before today is over.

\back to lurking
 
2013-12-10 02:42:55 PM  

tricycleracer: fireclown: CASSETTE?  The worst format ever?

It's a big thing in the DIY music scene to reuse old tapes for your recordings.  The more obscure or ironic the artist on the original, the more street cred you get.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-10 02:45:19 PM  

tricycleracer: fireclown: CASSETTE?  The worst format ever?

It's a big thing in the DIY music scene to reuse old tapes for your recordings.  The more obscure or ironic the artist on the original, the more street cred you get.


Can we just get one asteroid to hit the planet so we can collectively start civilization over?   Just one.   Is that too much to ask?
 
2013-12-10 02:52:02 PM  

KinetiKiteniK: Snapper Carr: Of all of the Best of 2013 lists I've seen, this is my favorite - it has a good balance of genres.

Except for a complete lack of anything that might use a guitar to create the music. No rock & roll, no metal. This list is a bad joke.



Dude,

seriously?
 
2013-12-10 03:02:25 PM  
Thanks. *copy* *paste into The Pirate Bay* errr... iTunes.
 
2013-12-10 03:05:14 PM  
The one you should buy:

i.imgur.com

William Onyeabor - Who Is William Onyeabor?


God bless David Byrne for this compilation, as it's much easier to get your funk on with this compilation than trying to track down thirty year old African vinyl. If you have a singlerhythmic bone in your body you will groove, most def. Get it!
 
2013-12-10 03:06:08 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?


"Out of touch" maybe, as a quick scroll-through indicates that I only recognize three of the artists by name (Kanye, Flaming Lips, Vampire Weekend) and don't like any of them (though, in fairness to Vampire Weekend, I don't think I've ever actually listened to any of their stuff).

Anyone see anything on the list they can actually recommend?

/or know of anything in the past few years that I should look into . . . I really am woefully out of touch
 
2013-12-10 03:08:00 PM  
Needs more punk.
 
2013-12-10 03:12:42 PM  
I bought both the John Luther Adams and Dawn Upshaw recordings. On actual CDs. From a store, even. Apparently I need to crack open a PBR and grow some weird configuration of facial hair to go with my hipster overalls and dinner jacket.
 
2013-12-10 03:12:59 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?

"Out of touch" maybe, as a quick scroll-through indicates that I only recognize three of the artists by name (Kanye, Flaming Lips, Vampire Weekend) and don't like any of them (though, in fairness to Vampire Weekend, I don't think I've ever actually listened to any of their stuff).

Anyone see anything on the list they can actually recommend?

/or know of anything in the past few years that I should look into . . . I really am woefully out of touch


Depends on your taste naturally. I don't think you can go wrong with Bombino
 
2013-12-10 03:13:21 PM  

tricycleracer: The more obscure or ironic the artist


I also still don't understand this new use of the word "ironic".
 
2013-12-10 03:16:50 PM  
This is the best anything music of 2013:

(nws probably)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBAtAM7vtgc
 
2013-12-10 03:17:37 PM  

coolpapabell: I tried getting back into the local scene here in Los Angeles last year. I went to a show at the Satellite and saw a band I really enjoyed. I went to their merch table to buy their cd but only saw vinyl. I asked if they had a CD as I didn't have a record player, and the guy looked at me incredulously and said, "You don't have a vinyl player?"
The next week I went back, but this time the band was only selling their music on cassette. I stopped going back because I don't own an eight track player or reel-to-reel either.


Only if they bring back Quadraphonic sound. Reel-to-reel is still pretty excellent sound if a bit inconvenient. The later vinyl 4-channel decoders were decent as well, but by the time they were good people were tired of Quad-8's poor quality and competing record formats. There's even a quad FM standard. Dolby 5.1 is really designed for movies, but quad recordings can easily be recorded on DVD-Audio, except what plays DVD-Audio?

Quad recordings are fun to listen to.
 
2013-12-10 03:18:50 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: I also still don't understand this new use of the word "ironic".


Nor I. I also don't get how "'ve never heard of this" constitutes a valid criticism. A statement of fact? Perhaps. A criticism that's meant to mean....anything....something? I'm lost in the woods.

What do the people who use it (and use it...and use it...and overbloody use it) mean to convey through its usage?

I quite genuinely want to know.


 
2013-12-10 03:20:00 PM  
I've...
 
2013-12-10 03:25:33 PM  
List fails without any Beeb....
 
2013-12-10 03:25:40 PM  
James Blake ~ Jamie Woon
Milosh ∈ Rhye
DJ KozeInternational Pony


Wrongo: Tim Hecker and Bill Callaghan were two nice finds,


Caecilia/Year In A Minute
 
2013-12-10 03:26:51 PM  

Sinbox: ArcadianRefugee: I also still don't understand this new use of the word "ironic".

Nor I. I also don't get how "'ve never heard of this" constitutes a valid criticism. A statement of fact? Perhaps. A criticism that's meant to mean....anything....something? I'm lost in the woods.

What do the people who use it (and use it...and use it...and overbloody use it) mean to convey through its usage?

I quite genuinely want to know.


"You've never heard of this"* is the kind of useful self-aggrandizement like "I told you so." It doesn't add anything, it is merely out there to make the speaker feel as if they are somehow better than the person they are speaking to. "Somehow, my having heard of this before you makes me better than you."*

In short, it's an odd way of saying "I'm an overly smug douche with no other way of feeling good about myself."

* Fark's equivalent is "This was on Reddit days ago".
 
2013-12-10 03:31:54 PM  

InmanRoshi: tricycleracer: fireclown: CASSETTE?  The worst format ever?

It's a big thing in the DIY music scene to reuse old tapes for your recordings.  The more obscure or ironic the artist on the original, the more street cred you get.

Can we just get one asteroid to hit the planet so we can collectively start civilization over?   Just one.   Is that too much to ask?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-10 03:34:16 PM  
Philistines
 
2013-12-10 03:35:45 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: You've never heard of this"* is the kind of useful self-aggrandizement like "I told you so."


It's probably more akin to the athiest who always has to say 'You seem like an intelligent person!'
 
2013-12-10 03:47:41 PM  
Kanye West being included on that list makes me question the validity of every other choice.

When I heard Kanye's new song I could only think if this is what modern music is I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
 
2013-12-10 03:52:06 PM  
Adding my $0.02 - Jonathan Wilson's 'Fanfare' album deserves a listen...
 
2013-12-10 03:54:14 PM  
I have heard of exactly two of those... Flaming Lips, which I absolutely love.  And Kanye West... the inclusion of which makes me wonder if they have a different definition of "music" than I do?
 
2013-12-10 03:58:33 PM  

OldRod: I have heard of exactly two of those... Flaming Lips, which I absolutely love.  And Kanye West... the inclusion of which makes me wonder if they have a different definition of "music" than I do?


Uh-huh, honey.
 
2013-12-10 04:02:11 PM  

LemSkroob: Missing:

[skullsnbones.com image 540x540]

and

[upload.wikimedia.org image 316x316]


Yup, looks like they forgot anything harder than rock on the list.
Not to mention Kylesa - Ultraviolet.

// Saw Ghost perform last week, it was awesome
 
2013-12-10 04:04:31 PM  
The list just looks like a roster of the horrible music acts that Conan has booked on his show.

//great show, lousy musical acts
 
2013-12-10 04:05:39 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Sinbox: ArcadianRefugee: I also still don't understand this new use of the word "ironic".

Nor I. I also don't get how "'ve never heard of this" constitutes a valid criticism. A statement of fact? Perhaps. A criticism that's meant to mean....anything....something? I'm lost in the woods.

What do the people who use it (and use it...and use it...and overbloody use it) mean to convey through its usage?

I quite genuinely want to know.

"You've never heard of this"* is the kind of useful self-aggrandizement like "I told you so." It doesn't add anything, it is merely out there to make the speaker feel as if they are somehow better than the person they are speaking to. "Somehow, my having heard of this before you makes me better than you."*

In short, it's an odd way of saying "I'm an overly smug douche with no other way of feeling good about myself."

* Fark's equivalent is "This was on Reddit days ago".


Thank you. Although actually I was coming at it from the other angle: those who dismiss something because they haven't seen/heard it.

I suspect your response holds water from both directions.

Thanks again.
 
2013-12-10 04:17:16 PM  
No Skeletonwitch? Totally discredited.
 
2013-12-10 04:17:53 PM  

Sinbox: I suspect your response holds water from both directions.


...like a douche bag?
 
2013-12-10 04:19:57 PM  
List fails without Bowies "The Next Day" and Black Sabbath's 13.  They did get the Flaming Lips though, and there are a couple on the list I'll be checking out.
 
2013-12-10 04:22:27 PM  
Run The Jewels is on the list so it's valid.
 
2013-12-10 04:24:03 PM  

Misch: justinguarini4ever: Pretty much. And while I'm almost certain that NPR is trying very hard to be unique, I am sure that there are some gems on that list that I haven't listened to. In fact I was listening to Blood Orange earlier today on the way to work.

From their list that I would recommend:

Jason Isbell Southeastern

Laura Marling Once I Was An Eagle

Valerie June Pushin' Against A Stone


Jason Isbell's Southerastern is the best album i've heard this year.
 
2013-12-10 04:26:39 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?


That's how Fark makes me feel...
 
2013-12-10 04:35:08 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: The one you should buy:

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]

William Onyeabor - Who Is William Onyeabor?

God bless David Byrne for this compilation, as it's much easier to get your funk on with this compilation than trying to track down thirty year old African vinyl. If you have a singlerhythmic bone in your body you will groove, most def. Get it!


This was the only track in the entire list that I liked. A number of the sample songs stopped playing halfway through and I found myself quite relieved and happy every time it happened.
 
2013-12-10 04:45:35 PM  

Sinbox: ArcadianRefugee: Sinbox: ArcadianRefugee: I also still don't understand this new use of the word "ironic".

Nor I. I also don't get how "'ve never heard of this" constitutes a valid criticism. A statement of fact? Perhaps. A criticism that's meant to mean....anything....something? I'm lost in the woods.

What do the people who use it (and use it...and use it...and overbloody use it) mean to convey through its usage?

I quite genuinely want to know.

"You've never heard of this"* is the kind of useful self-aggrandizement like "I told you so." It doesn't add anything, it is merely out there to make the speaker feel as if they are somehow better than the person they are speaking to. "Somehow, my having heard of this before you makes me better than you."*

In short, it's an odd way of saying "I'm an overly smug douche with no other way of feeling good about myself."

* Fark's equivalent is "This was on Reddit days ago".

Thank you. Although actually I was coming at it from the other angle: those who dismiss something because they haven't seen/heard it.

I suspect your response holds water from both directions.

Thanks again.


Oh! Sorry. I thought your truncated "'ve never heard of this" was "You've never heard..."; I hadn't considered the more dismissive "I've never heard...".

A: [argument or stance]
B: [counter-argument]
A: "Well, I've never heard of that."

Rather than the somewhat more rational "Oh, I hadn't heard that. Tell me more."

Yeah. In that case, that translates to, "I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even when their 'opinion' is demonstrably wrong. As such, I refuse to listen to anything that might be contradictory to the position I have taken on this subject, no matter how reasonable or easily proven it may be."
 
2013-12-10 04:49:10 PM  

special20: Sinbox: I suspect your response holds water from both directions.

...like a douche bag?


I'm not sure you quite understand how they work....
 
2013-12-10 05:13:38 PM  

bdub77: InmanRoshi: tricycleracer: fireclown: CASSETTE?  The worst format ever?

It's a big thing in the DIY music scene to reuse old tapes for your recordings.  The more obscure or ironic the artist on the original, the more street cred you get.

Can we just get one asteroid to hit the planet so we can collectively start civilization over?   Just one.   Is that too much to ask?

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You asshat. Then people will only talk about how awesome it was back BEFORE the asteroid came. You would just usher in the newest and most asshatted asshats.
 
2013-12-10 05:16:19 PM  

special20: So what if Heartless Bastards, Alabama Shakes, or somebody like Lucius isn't there


Lucius is there.  I'm not familiar with Lucius myself, but it made their list.
 
2013-12-10 05:18:09 PM  

fireclown: CASSETTE?  The worst format ever?  This is really making me want to belt on my onion and shout at a cloud.


It's perfect for the generation who only listens to poorly compressed, low-fidelity crap from YouTube through $6 computer speakers. Why sell it on a high fidelity format when no one has high fidelity systems any more?  It's all YouTube and iCrap with earbuds or speakers that come free with a case of beer.
 
2013-12-10 06:47:50 PM  
Okay, late to thread but I'll go nuts out of thanks to other farkers who've introduced me to music I've loved. Definitely not sticking to 2013 releases, though. And I have horrible music vocab, so I'm not even going to try to get the genres or descriptions 'correct.' But here you go: a little something for  everyoneto sneer at and enjoy:


Lets call this genre 'Ticked off at life and playing in a dive bar, likely in the south, most of the vehicles in the parking lot are muddy and many have rust spots and/or handle bars, and some of the audience could really use deodorant. This is all a very good thing, and you are happy to be there.'

Anders Osborne
- tracks: Send Me a Friend, Black Tar.
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - album: Beat the Devil's Tattoo
Gossip: tracks: Swing Low, Southern Comfort
Heavy - album: Glorious Dead
Ida Maria - album: Fortress 'round My Heart, track: Oh My God
Jazz Butcher - track: Drink
Jason Morphew - track: Badass w a heart of Gold
Pogues - track: Bottle of Smoke. Love the Pogues, and this song makes me want to start a bar fight where everyone runs around smashing stuff and grinning together and feeling happy to be punched.
Pretenders - album: Break Up the Concrete
Shane McGowan - I put a spell on you (w/ Johnny Depp, Nick Cave, Bobby Gillespie, Glen Matlock, Chrissie Hynes, etc...) Pogues guy with a big ol cast in a great, near-feral cover.
20 Miles. Album: Keep it Coming. Try out 'Baby Fell Down a Well.'
You Me and Apollo - album: Cards with Cheats - tracks: Rob the Cheat, Ink on Paper.
Galactic - Album: Ruckus. Track: Bittersweet. I really don't like Galactic's recent stuff, but Ruckus is different, more unique, and better. So say I.
Mynabirds - Generals


Late-night-miles-to-go-before-I-sleep-car-danceable. Perhaps silly and/or obnoxious. Perhaps not.

Brazilian Girls
- Talk to La Bomb
Butch Walker & the Lets-Go-Out-Tonights - by far my favorite album of his.
Cabaret Diosa - their 'Kiss of Fire' cover and 'Sway with Me' make me really happy. Latin lounge. Huge, talented brass section. Performers thrilled to be making music, and damn good at it. Colorado band pre Pink-Martini, but you might find similarities. I like these folks better; they're not quite as...polished? Alt-genre-sliding? I'd definitely say they're as talented.
Get Set Go - track: Die Motherfarker Die. Love a good cheerful tune with 'Gonna snap and you're the first to go' lyrics.
Maybe Smith - album: Another Murder in the Morning. Recommendation based on personal experience: do not listen to this on dark, icy, winding roads. Your heart rate goes through the roof and it's hard not to go way too fast while planning to murder the band at some point.
Dan Bern - album: Fifty Eggs. This man is very very silly, very very smart, and makes good music.


Alt-country-ish? Yeah, let's go with that

Deep Dark Woods
- album: Hang Me Oh Hang Me (track: Redwood Forest a particular fav). Canadian band recommended by a dude in Saskatoon for a January road trip on the trans-Canadian to Quebec. Great choice for the trip.
Euphoria - also sort of electronic in places. album: Precious Time - esp. track 'Back Against the Wall,' one of the finest long-empty-road driving songs ever.
Giant Giant Sand - album: Tucson. Overarching story to the album. Alt-country-opera? Sure, why not.
Cold Specks


Them furriners

DiggingRoots
- tracks: Spring to Come, Bring the Water. Okay, a Canadian First Nations band is not at all 'furrin,' but it's opposite day, and whatever day it is, they're awesome.
Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu - track: Wukun. I believe this aboriginal dude is singing about marijuana here, but really I have no idea. It's great. Love his voice.
Juana Molina - albums: Un Dia & Wed 21. Lovely eerie stuff. Genre: mesmerizing mellow electronic/experimental Latin with vocal personality?
Novalima - album: Afro
Rachid Taha - album: Made in Medina. Tracks 'Garab' & 'En Retard' are frickin fabulous. 'Garab' just keeps on evolving as you listen.
Radio Zumbido - album: Los Ultimos Dias de AM - track to start with: Livingston Buzz. LOVE this whole album. They mix in bits of traditional old-school Guatemalan AM radio with their own melodic electronic-ish music.
Ishumar 2 - New Tuareg Guitars - Blues-infused desert nomad music made by young Tuaregs ticked off by oppressive regimes. Huzzah.
Musique & Cinema du Monde - Cool compilation of albums covering different regions of the world and their movie music.


Quiet & lovely

Rachel's
- album: Music for Egon Schiele - Rachel's have since swung out into crazy experimental land, but I love this album; it's classical, pensive, and beautiful. Great as background for creative work when you can't listen to stuff with words or it'll screw up your writing, art, etc. Their 'Selenography' album is great too, still more of a classical feel but branching out into slightly funkier sounds.
Planet Sleeps - simply awesome lullabies from around the world. Not smarmy lullabies - songs that make you want to sit back and close your eyes in a quiet room, and give yourself a small, temporary time and space to relax and rekindle trust that human nature can at times be gentle and good.


Random & either whacked out or mostly local or hell if I know where to put them

Beach Boys
'Feel Flows' - Farker recommended. Kickass.
Goran Bregovic w/ Iggy Pop, track: 'In the Deathcar.' Also check out Bregovic's 'Black Cat White Cat' for extra nuttiness.
On an On - album: Give In - Chicago band, used to be Scattered Trees. Nearly pop-alternative-ish, but I like them a lot.
Psapp - Albums: Camel's Back, What Makes us Glow. Mellow stuff, non-smarmy singer-songwriter with country-ish overtones.
Snake Rattle Rattle Snake - My good friend's little sister's band. Can't listen to tons of it, but pretty damn good, smooth-trippy and dark.
 
2013-12-10 07:04:56 PM  
It is safe to ignore anything NPR says about sports, movies or music. Please, stick to real news and car talk.
 
2013-12-10 07:59:54 PM  
Die Antwoord: Ten$ion
Nick Cave: Push the Sky Away
Dizzee Rascal: The Fifth
 
2013-12-10 08:03:53 PM  

gordian: Okay, late to thread but I'll go nuts out of thanks to other farkers who've introduced me to music I've loved. Definitely not sticking to 2013 releases, though. And I have horrible music vocab, so I'm not even going to try to get the genres or descriptions 'correct.' But here you go: a little something for  everyoneto sneer at and enjoy:


Lets call this genre 'Ticked off at life and playing in a dive bar, likely in the south, most of the vehicles in the parking lot are muddy and many have rust spots and/or handle bars, and some of the audience could really use deodorant. This is all a very good thing, and you are happy to be there.'

Anders Osborne - tracks: Send Me a Friend, Black Tar.
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - album: Beat the Devil's Tattoo
Gossip: tracks: Swing Low, Southern Comfort
Heavy - album: Glorious Dead
Ida Maria - album: Fortress 'round My Heart, track: Oh My God
Jazz Butcher - track: Drink
Jason Morphew - track: Badass w a heart of Gold
Pogues - track: Bottle of Smoke. Love the Pogues, and this song makes me want to start a bar fight where everyone runs around smashing stuff and grinning together and feeling happy to be punched.
Pretenders - album: Break Up the Concrete
Shane McGowan - I put a spell on you (w/ Johnny Depp, Nick Cave, Bobby Gillespie, Glen Matlock, Chrissie Hynes, etc...) Pogues guy with a big ol cast in a great, near-feral cover.
20 Miles. Album: Keep it Coming. Try out 'Baby Fell Down a Well.'
You Me and Apollo - album: Cards with Cheats - tracks: Rob the Cheat, Ink on Paper.
Galactic - Album: Ruckus. Track: Bittersweet. I really don't like Galactic's recent stuff, but Ruckus is different, more unique, and better. So say I.
Mynabirds - Generals


Late-night-miles-to-go-before-I-sleep-car-danceable. Perhaps silly and/or obnoxious. Perhaps not.

Brazilian Girls - Talk to La Bomb
Butch Walker & the Lets-Go-Out-Tonights - by far my favorite album of his.
Cabaret Diosa - their 'Kiss of Fire' cover and 'Sway with Me' make me really happ ...


Try Tim Fite: Over the Counterculture.
 
2013-12-10 09:27:19 PM  

santadog: Try Tim Fite: Over the Counterculture.


Ooh, nice. I'm going to snag some, thanks! And hi from the Fort.
 
2013-12-10 09:43:14 PM  
I just about melted the first time I heard John legend and Seal on "We Loved It" from Love in the Future. It's not a panty-dropper; it's a panty-flinger. Or maybe just for me.
 
pla
2013-12-10 10:03:15 PM  
First of all, I listen to NPR news.  They have what I would call a "pathetic" bias (way too much coverage of people they want me to feel bad for but I can't help thinking "self-inflicted, just die already" for most of them), but for most news, they seem to cover it the most fair and balanced (ironically enough) way possible.  And I just can't deal with shock-jocks before my second pot of coffee.

That said...

NPR's taste in music borders on the criminally insane.  Seriously, I feel like they've forced me into the acoustic equivalent of "Dora the Explorer" for every... single... album they review on-air.  Yeah, great, the latest by Mbuto *click* Nag'wammi.  Gee, and here I long wondered when they'd get around to releasing the next hour of "music to swat blowflies to".

Free hint, guys - It took a two full generations, Elvis through Led Zeppelin (more-or-less) to make Blues mainstream.  You'll need to go a bit more gradually before I run out to buy the soothing sounds of a Llama bleating during its autumn shearing.
 
2013-12-10 10:12:08 PM  

worlddan: Most I hadn't heard of but the few that I have heard of are overrated. Especially that Jason Isbell album, which is complete garbage. American Songwriter named that their #1 album. /facepalm.

Oddly his wife and sometimes touring partner, Amanda Shires, put out a blistering good record this year and it has been totally ignored.


I haven't listened to the new album yet, but I usually like Jason Isbell.  Love Amanda Shires even more, though, and it kills me that she hasn't gotten more recognition.

I've heard of a bunch of these and they've got some good picks, but I skimmed the whole list hoping I'd see Aoife O'Donovan.   Fossils was my favorite album of the year and I figured if anyone was going to recognize it on one of these lists, it might be NPR.  No such luck.  They missed Sarah Jarosz too, surprisingly.  I have been really liking Valerie June's album, though, so I'm glad to see that one here.
 
2013-12-10 11:19:29 PM  
I haven't heard of any of these artists except Kanye West, but I might get this CD...

media.npr.org

...just for the artwork.
 
2013-12-11 01:19:27 AM  
f0.bcbits.com

Also, I saw Fort Wilson Riot open for Local H in Madison a few months ago and I really liked them.

Honorable mentions...
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2013-12-11 07:29:07 AM  
Not *that* much diversity.  How about the Prog Album of the Year for 2013?

www.rockfreaks.net
 
2013-12-11 09:13:28 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: The Southern Logic Company: Snapper Carr: sigdiamond2000: Is it just me, or does this list of music make you feel out of touch, inadequate, and angry, and like you must respond to it negatively in order to quell your feelings of worthlessness? Anybody else feeling that?

Of all of the Best of 2013 lists I've seen, this is my favorite - it has a good balance of genres. As for the more obscure stuff they're touting, they're tone is more "Hey, you might enjoy this one, check it out." as opposed to say, Pitchfork's "What? You haven't heard this? Begone, slack jawed neanderthal! You are not worthy of the words of this page" vibe.

Honestly not a bad list, why Yeezus was included I'll never understand.

I think Yeezus is this year's version of "Metal Machine Music" - people (especially critics) like to praise it to yank your chain. Consider it an inside joke.


Oh so people have been trolling me by telling me Yeezus is good?  It makes so much sense now.
 
2013-12-11 09:29:48 AM  
f0.bcbits.com

It's weird in its nerdiness, but I love the flow and the honesty.  But nerd rap gets no respect outside of conventions.
 
2013-12-11 02:28:38 PM  

elev8meL8r: special20: So what if Heartless Bastards, Alabama Shakes, or somebody like Lucius isn't there

Lucius is there.  I'm not familiar with Lucius myself, but it made their list.


List was tl;dr, and I'm too lazy to CTRL-F. Just took a shot since Lucius is pretty new.... (to me, sort of like this whole reading entire lists thing)
 
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