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(Guardian)   In a move that will surely go unnoticed, President Obama shakes hands with Cuban President Raul Castro at Nelson Mandela's memorial service. Aw, who is Subby kidding- THIS IS AN OUTRAGE   (theguardian.com) divider line 47
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2013-12-10 12:06:15 PM  
4 votes:
I'm in agreement with most of the farkers here.  Politeness, courtesy, respect and deference are NOT anti-American sentiments.  As a matter of fact, they are some of the MOST American sentiments you can find.  So to all of you low-lifes who whine about Obama 'bowing to another' or some other ridiculous, juvenile garbage, grow up.

Just.  Grow.  The.  Fark.  Up.

You simply cannot have any kind of friendly dialogue with anyone who doesn't show you some respect.  And if you want respect?  You have to show some, too. You want "common courtesy"?  Show some.  You want others to respect your 'traditions'?  Respect theirs.  It's a two-way street that Republicans just can't seem to understand any more.

You can love him or hate him, but Bill Clinton said it most perfectly:  "The rest of the world has always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the examples of our power."

So seriously.  You want the Middle East/Iran/NK to act like grown-ups?  Start by acting like one yourself.
2013-12-10 11:35:10 AM  
3 votes:
It's important to point out why Cuba, currently, really is our enemy.

It's not because they're Communists. We're quite friendly with Communist China.

It's not because they used to support our enemies, the Soviets. We're dealing quite well with India which also had close ties to the Soviets.

It's not because of their treatment of their people. We're close allies with Saudi Arabia which has an awful human rights record.

The reason we can't open relations with Cuba is because...

Okay, I can't think of a good reason but Reagan hated them so fark Cuba forever and ever. Diplomacy is for pussies since it works without spending billions or killing thousands.
2013-12-10 11:21:41 AM  
3 votes:
Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US, not because of our freedoms, but because it's full of arrogant ass holes who think they are better than the rest of the world and get to decide who and what they want to blow up next with no thoughts about the consequences of their actions.  Believe it or not a simple hand shake with someone who is widely regarded as an "enemy" the the United States can go a long way to showing the world that we are willing to work with others to make the world a better place and that we at least respect other countries.
2013-12-10 04:19:58 PM  
2 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: mrshowrules: Not in my family but I have friends from Cuba.

I don't think you will see what "the big deal" is about Cuba and America unless you have been exposed to exiled Cubans in America.
To you and me, this is some ancient thing that happened to some other people somewhere. For them it is not.

I know a handful of Cubans and children of Cubans. They have house keys to homes long gone. Photos and deeds of places they can never go back to. They can't visit their parent's graves, or see their home towns.

And in their minds, it's because of Castro. They have parents and cousins and sibling who were killed or brutalized by Castro. They arrived destitute to a country that gave them a home and allowed them to thrive.

There is both a deep, and abiding hatred of Castro's Cuba, and a deep and rooted love for America that can be hard to understand if you haven't spent some time with exiled Cubans.

It may not be entirely rational, but it is strong.


Please don't try to generalize like that. It's really rather insulting.

I never met my grandfather(he died before I was born), but from what my mother told me, he was a fan of Castro - at first. Then Castro let power get to his head, and it all went downhill from there. To say he had a deep, abiding hatred of Castro's Cuba is flat out wrong. If anything, it made him sad. What (in his mind)could have been something awesome was ruined because a man got arrogant. He didn't hold it against Cuba or Castro- he saw it as man's inherent flaws.

When he got to America, he ended up taking what would be the equivalent of a minimum wage job, because his law degree wasn't worth the paper it was printed on here. He was fluent in English already, sonot speaking the language was no excuse. If my family was mad at anyone, it was at Americans, because my grandfather went from being a highly respected judge, to the equivalent of a McDonald's employee. My grandmother, on the other hand, easily got a job as a teacher, probably because a mathematics degree translates from one country to another a lot easier.

Most of that side of my family never actually lived in Florida, or if they did, not for very long. Most of them grew up in the Midwest, and a few grew up in the NY/NJ area. Most of them also do not hate Castro or Cuba, but rather share the same sadness/anger at Americans my grandfather did(he was a smart man who was very influential in the family, from what I'm told). That side of my family is incredibly liberal, and to this day, still don't blame Castro, at lest not in the way you seem to be implying. They may not like him, but to say they hate him is to go too far. Most of them have been advocating for normalizing relations with Cuba, specifically because they think it will help those people still in Cuba, and because they'd like to visit it again. They also think the Cubans in Florida are, to quote my grandmother, "Loud mouthed attention seekers who give the rest of us a bad name."

So yea. Tl;dr: Generalizations are bad. It's never that simple.
2013-12-10 02:54:21 PM  
2 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Dansker: Why not? It's a pertinent response to people trying to make the thread about Farkers.

It is not particularly effective, useful or interesting to counter someone's claim that few Farkers will actually criticize and overreact to Obama's handshake by pointing out that OTHER people on OTHER websites did.

It's far more on topic than telling other Farkers what they should or shouldn't post. And responding to a headline that is not about Farkers by insisting that everybody only talk about Farkers is far more boring than pointing and laughing at Freepers.

That's it. When someone says "Few on THIS Fark thread are criticizing Obama as predicted in the headline", saying "you are wrong, because I found other people elsewhere!" is not a response.


Headline: Some people will be outraged.
You: Nobody in this thread is outraged.
Someoneelse: No, but some people are outraged.
You: Stop talking about some people! No one here is interested in some people.
2013-12-10 02:53:39 PM  
2 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Epic Fap Session: We should really only post comments that BojanglesPotatodin has pre-approved.

I appreciate your faith in my judgment, but that is not only unnecessary, it's unrelated to anything I posted.

What I said is simply that when people are talking about Farkers, comments about unrelated non-Farkers on some other website isn't particularly interesting or useful.

Also, if you want to start up your own conversation about something other than this thread, don't quote and then respond to a post specifically about the thread.


Nowhere in the headline does it say farkers will be outraged. Mocking those who are outraged does not have to be limited to farkers.
2013-12-10 12:54:29 PM  
2 votes:

skullkrusher: somedude210: Serious Black: Never in the history of existence across all known and unknown universes has a more wrong statement ever been uttered. Capitalists are perfect in every conceivable way, and Communists are all so evil and sociopathic they make Satan himself recoil in fear.

you joke, but someone will take you seriously.

skullkrusher: Seriously though, communists suck.

no more so than "DEREGULATE EVERYTHING" capitalists

Meh. Under a fully deregulated capitalist system, communism is still possible. Not so under a communist state. I wonder why capitalist states don't have to outlaw communes but communist societies always have to outlaw private enterprise?


Oh, FFS...you guys really think Obama's a communist, don't you?  I mean all snark and sarcasm aside...you REALLY think he's a socialist....Don't you?  There is some small part of me that still thinks you know...deep down, somewhere that all the "Obama's a commie" is BS from the word 'go'...and are just engaging in some kind of theatrical positioning....but...no...you guys ACTUALLY believe it!!!!

i.imgur.com
2013-12-10 12:20:15 PM  
2 votes:

KellyX: That's what I'm seeing from the conservatives


When will conservatives finally realize that communists aren't bad people, just as capitalists aren't bad people. There have been bad things done in the name of communism as well as capitalism, but being in favor of one or the other does not mean you are better or worse than someone else. Bad things have been done in the name of every religion too, yet we still claim one is better than another.

Tell them to pull their heads out of their asses and accept that communism is not inherently evil and they've fallen victim to a massive propaganda scheme the US did to paint communists as bad people post WW2.

Blame Harry Farking Truman and his Sec. of State for that
/and the Dullus Brothers
//Fark those guys
2013-12-10 11:33:59 AM  
2 votes:
You know what?

Good.

The cold war has been over for almost 20 years.  It's about time we normalized relations with Cuba.  I'm not saying the Cuban government are saints or anything, but keeping them ostracized from the world community helps nobody.  The only reason the embargo has persisted this long is because of a vocal minority that happens to be concentrated in a swing state.
2013-12-10 11:28:06 AM  
2 votes:
Remember, Reagan sold arms to Iran.

Obama greeted someone at Nelson Mandela's funeral.

Obviously, history's greatest monster.
2013-12-10 05:56:44 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: grumpfuff: Please don't try to generalize like that. It's really rather insulting

I didn't say anything about ALL Cubans, or your grandfather, or even Florida for that matter, so I suspect you are assuming my brush is wider than I intended.


This is the quote that lead me to believe you were painting with a wide brush.

"There is both a deep, and abiding hatred of Castro's Cuba, and a deep and rooted love for America that can be hard to understand if you haven't spent some time with exiled Cubans."

If you meant it in reference to only your friends, I apologize, but I figured it would have been preceded with a "my friends" or something if you meant that, as you are usually very careful with your word choice.


BojanglesPaladin: I'm certain that individual people have had different experiences. That being said, I didn't think that the animosity toward Castro in Cuba among exiled Cubans was really disputed


It is disputed, there are a wide variety of Cubans who do not agree with the "Florida Cuban" view. This I know for certain, because my mother and grandmother used to attend monthly meetings of Cuban exiles who feel the same. I went to a few as well.

BojanglesPaladin: and with all due respect to what you were told that a man you never met thought about Castro's Cuba, I am comfortable in my charicterization of what I understand from talking correctly to a number of living Cuban exiles.


Why do your friends' stories count more than my family's? I know certain things about my grandfather for certain. For example, he liked communism to the day he died(I inherited his "library"). And "talking correctly" sounds like you're implying something rather negative about either me, my family, or their stories. You may not be, but it's not exactly a nice way to phrase it(see above about word choice).

BojanglesPaladin: The point was simply that if you want to know "what the big deal is", you should probably talk with some Cuban exiles, as they can tell you better than anyone.


Cuban exiles like my mother and grandmother? Or the rest of my family? Or the stories from those meetings I mentioned? I grew up hearing plenty of stories. Some were very anti-Castro, true, but there were lots that didn't. I'm sorry they don't jive with what you've been told, but, and you might want to sit down for this, you might be shocked to find out that not all people who went through something will have the same opinion about that experience.
2013-12-10 04:46:02 PM  
1 votes:

mrshowrules: BojanglesPaladin: mrshowrules: Not in my family but I have friends from Cuba.

I don't think you will see what "the big deal" is about Cuba and America unless you have been exposed to exiled Cubans in America.
To you and me, this is some ancient thing that happened to some other people somewhere. For them it is not.

I know a handful of Cubans and children of Cubans. They have house keys to homes long gone. Photos and deeds of places they can never go back to. They can't visit their parent's graves, or see their home towns.

And in their minds, it's because of Castro. They have parents and cousins and sibling who were killed or brutalized by Castro. They arrived destitute to a country that gave them a home and allowed them to thrive.

There is both a deep, and abiding hatred of Castro's Cuba, and a deep and rooted love for America that can be hard to understand if you haven't spent some time with exiled Cubans.

It may not be entirely rational, but it is strong.

Fair enough but at some point, people need to get over it.


Tell that to the Palestinians too?
2013-12-10 04:11:38 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Dansker: Don't try to be ingratiating after calling me dull and obtuse.

I don't recall saying YOU were dull and obtuse. You can take offense if you like, but I don't believe you took it from me.


You felt a need to correct (with a lie) my interpretation of events, and said that I don't understand. That's calling me obtuse.

My argument boiled down to "Don't argue with me about what is happening on this thread by citing what other people say on other threads."

Nobody did that. You're still lying.

My only comment on what people should and should not post was related to direct responses. Many, many times, I said everyone is free to post all they want about how stupid freepers are. Perhaps you didn't review the thread before you jumped in.

/Also, you are wandering a bit far afield interpreting what was meant in a long running thread between a number of participants that weren't you


You said this to Mikey, who wasn't even responding to you: "Dude. No one here cares what happens in freeperville. Leave that shiat there."

And,

Lando Lincoln: BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0

Lets take a walk over to Breitbart or Drudge and see how little they care over there.

[checks the conservatard sites]

Oh my. Well. Now I need a shower.

He didn't say you are wrong. And he wasn't arguing with you about what was happening in this thread. Liar.
2013-12-10 03:57:55 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: mrshowrules: I still don't see what the big deal is.

Do you have Cubans in your family? Know any?


I'm half Cuban. My grandfather was forced to flee Cuba for throwing one of Castro's friends in jail, and the rest of my family followed soon after. Do you have a point to make?
2013-12-10 03:44:33 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Dansker: No, it's even more fun now that you're lying about the whole thing.

Sigh. Really? Are you really going to take that route? Not only is the thread available for review, but there is nothing quite so sad as a Farker going for the feeble 'gotcha' slapfight. I expect it from the Bojangles Slap-Fight Brigade TM  members, but I remember a time when you were a rational poster. I actually have you favorited.

Du skal ikke være sådan.

/My Danish is not good enough for 'you don't have to be that guy'


Don't try to be ingratiating after calling me dull and obtuse.

And I'm not going for gotcha. Your argument has boiled down to claiming someone said you were wrong about Farkers not being outraged, and that's why you feel justified in telling Farkers what they should and shouldn't post.
But that's a lie. Lando did not say you were wrong. He just said something more relevant than you.
2013-12-10 03:35:29 PM  
1 votes:
If it's okay wih BojanglesPalin I'd like to state that I couldn't care less that a bunch of almost-dead Cuban Ex-pats are butthurt about who the POTUS shakes hands with.
2013-12-10 03:15:15 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Dansker: Headline: Some people will be outraged.
You: Nobody in this thread is outraged.
Someoneelse: No, but some people are outraged. Quoting my post: "Yeah they are! Just look at what they say on these other sites!"


Now you are just lying. Nobody said you were wrong about Farkers not being outraged.

jst3p: Nowhere in the headline does it say farkers will be outraged.

This started with specific responses to specific posts that did. Read up.


And the specific response implied that your strict focus on Farkers is irrelevant to the subject.
2013-12-10 03:08:31 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: jst3p: You do seem to be spending a lot of time getting poutraged that farkers are mocking them though.

Then you need to pay closer attention.

Being shocked and amazed by the level of insanity and nonsense on free republic is like being shocked and amazed by the level of bigotry and racism on an aryan front website.

Did you miss where I BEGAN by calling them the derp factories?

I see no reason to waste the time, and frankly, people eating that shiat up and then regurgitating it here on Fark is... just dull.


If this thread is dull, why are you still here? I am not a nascar fan, but I don't waste my time in nascar threads telling other farkers what they are allowed to be amused by.
2013-12-10 02:49:13 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: jst3p: Because mocking them provides amusement.

Not really, no.


Yes really, yes.

Especially when it is people mocking caricatures of what they think their binary politico 'adversaries' are "really thinking".


Freepers are actual people, that is what makes it so amusing. The only think keeping it from being awesome is the fact that their vote counts the same as mine, not because I disagree with them but because many of them are ignorant and misinformed.
2013-12-10 02:18:46 PM  
1 votes:
...Sorry, I must be from an alternate universe where shaking hands with people is a simple gesture to show that your mother didn't raise you in a barn.
2013-12-10 02:15:38 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: shastacola: Clearly, this is Fark' s Benghazi.

You sound like a bot.

Clearly, you are dissatisfied that you are not on Freeper or Brietbart. Might I suggest that if you want to fight the good fight against the herperderper hordes, that you go there and do so?


Maybe we just want to point and laugh.
And we're in a thread about how right wing asshats will somehow use a polite handshake as an excuse to criticize the US President, so quoting from a well known hangout for right wing asshats seems perfectly relevant and on topic.
What's the problem?
2013-12-10 02:08:37 PM  
1 votes:

scottymac: Every Fark "Politics" thread:

1. "Oh here we go..."

2. (Popcorn.gif)

3. "I'm tempted to go on this conservative site and see what they're saying"

4. "Any minute now...."

5. "They'll probably say..." (insert made-up comments peppered with "tea tards", conserva-derps", etc.)

6.  Snark in support of above.

7. Repeat 5 and 6 until thread implodes on itself and/or no one cares anymore.

What exactly is the point?


Not every one. The conservative version:

1. Headline proclaims that liberals are outraged about something
2. Liberal farkers explain that we're not outraged, we're laughing at conservatives for how dumb they are.
3. Conservative farkers try to convince us that no, we really are outraged.
2013-12-10 01:59:27 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: At least he isn't BFF with supporters of Al Qaeda.

[www.resonoelusono.com image 381x318]


Can you imagine the right-wing insanity if Obama kissed a Saudi prince? Holee shiatballs.
2013-12-10 01:57:19 PM  
1 votes:
Every Fark "Politics" thread:

1. "Oh here we go..."

2. (Popcorn.gif)

3. "I'm tempted to go on this conservative site and see what they're saying"

4. "Any minute now...."

5. "They'll probably say..." (insert made-up comments peppered with "tea tards", conserva-derps", etc.)

6.  Snark in support of above.

7. Repeat 5 and 6 until thread implodes on itself and/or no one cares anymore.

What exactly is the point?
2013-12-10 01:46:41 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher:
Begs

Raises the question, why not post somewhere people are complaining about it?

Because this is where Farkers meet up to point and laugh at people being stupid where ever they are.
2013-12-10 01:42:35 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-12-10 01:41:43 PM  
1 votes:

Cat Food Sandwiches: The great thing is that soon the Castros will be dead, and the good people of Cuba can rejoin the rest of the world.  Their failed experiment is the greatest testimony to the craziness of communism.


um.. actually they seem to be doing ok right now. Also, free health care for all.

I'd say the USA is more of a failed experiment than Cuba
2013-12-10 01:25:22 PM  
1 votes:
Evidently some people have never been to a funeral.


/laughter is the best medicine you tards. Anyone that says they've never laughed at one is a liar.
2013-12-10 01:08:57 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0
Number of people complaining about people complaining about Obama shaking Castro's Hand: 36


Almost the exact proportion of people who are offended by the words "Merry Christmas" to people who complain about people who are offended by the words "Merry Christmas." Whodathunkit?
2013-12-10 12:32:30 PM  
1 votes:

MikeyFuccon: super_grass: Far more scandalous:

[i.imgur.com image 820x960]

Any word on who that woman is?


Danish PM
2013-12-10 12:31:36 PM  
1 votes:

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's because Cuba are best friends with Venezuela and support left-wing anti-American political movements across LatAm.


Well, after the collapse of the soviet union, and given that the world's largest economy located 50 miles off their shore refuses to trade with them, what realistic options have they have other than buddying up with the rest of latin america?  If you wanted to undermine the Castro(s) regime, the easiest way to do so would be through the hearts and minds of the Cuban people.

Chummer45: Yeah. I mean, we sort of pushed Castro in that direction and tried to kill him a bunch of times and all, so I guess our hands aren't entirely clean here.  It would be great for both countries if we could finally normalize relations with Cuba.  I'd love to go to Cuba legally.


It's beautiful, but honestly the best part about Cuba is the absence of American tourists.  It's like a sanctuary.  Don't take that away from us.
2013-12-10 12:25:12 PM  
1 votes:
Far more scandalous:

i.imgur.com
2013-12-10 12:01:00 PM  
1 votes:

LessO2: Aaaaaand the derp just keeps on coming....

"If he was going to shake his hand, he should have asked him about those basic freedoms Mandela was associated with that are denied in Cuba," [Marco] Rubio told ABC News.

Source


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That's what I'm seeing from the conservatives
2013-12-10 11:57:00 AM  
1 votes:
Aaaaaand the derp just keeps on coming....

"If he was going to shake his hand, he should have asked him about those basic freedoms Mandela was associated with that are denied in Cuba," [Marco] Rubio told ABC News.

Source
2013-12-10 11:52:28 AM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: mrshowrules: I predict peak derp by tomorrow evening.

Perhaps, but on Fark? it will be an avalanche of a different kind of derp.

My prediction: There will be a smattering of people criticizing Obama for this just to feed the trolls, and a few hundred posts screaming about the supposed people complaining about it. There will be a poster or two who criticize Obama for something unrelated, and a few hundred posts screaming about unfair criticism.

Pretty much like any other Fark thread involving Obama.


Conservative/Independent Farkers are definitely not as extreme or ignorant as others in the blogosphere.
Sorry if that sounds like a back-handed compliment.  However, I do remember farkers getting really pissed off at Obama bowing to some foreign politicians and the concept of Obama going on "an apology" tour did have quite a bit of traction with many farkers.
2013-12-10 11:39:00 AM  
1 votes:

RyogaM: BojanglesPaladin: Mikey1969: No, that's here(EXACTLY like the headline suggested):http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3100206/posts


Dude. No one here cares what happens in freeperville. Leave that shiat there.

I care....


i586.photobucket.com

There's always one.
2013-12-10 11:38:56 AM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0
Number of people complaining about people complaining about Obama shaking Castro's Hand: 36


That's because the people on their right haven't got their marching orders yet from Rush, Beck and Palin among other idiots.  The derposhere is going to go ape shiat over this.  You don't believe me?

I predict peak derp by tomorrow evening.
2013-12-10 11:31:34 AM  
1 votes:

super_grass: Diplomats and politicians shake hands.

Now watch in amazement as nobody in this thread overreact like the headline suggested.


No, that's here(EXACTLY like the headline suggested):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3100206/posts

To:  Innovative
Looks like he bowed too.

To:  stevie_d_64
I think he is bowing out of respect... goes to show you whom does Obama respect.

To:  Innovative
And BOWS!

To:  GOP Poet
And he is bowing to Catro too...

To:  Innovative
Would Obama have done the same for Lenin, or Stalin, or Hitler?
The Castro's are of the same ilk. Murderous thugs. But the POTUS gives him bow and hearty handshake and converses with him like he's an old friend, or comrade. Repulsive and disgusting, but we know Obama too well after six years, eh>

To:  Innovative
Good Morning America was in ecstasy over it.
Sickening.

To:  Innovative
I wonder if they went out of his way to do this to stick it to Ted Cruz?

To:  PghBaldy
Obama did it because he views Castro as a "comrade"- he has more in common with Castro than with people in the US...
And of course Bill Clinton shook hands with Fidel Castro...
"President Bill Clinton was the first to do so in 2000 after a lunch during a United Nations summit in New York, when he shook hands with Mr Castro's brother, Fidel."

To:  Innovative
Birds of a feather.

To:  Innovative
Which brings to mind...
Does Barrack Hussien Obama even respect himself???
I mean really, think about it...We know he has an extreme narcassistic (sp?) condition...Most of the people around him are "yes" men and women...He has a wife and a marraige that is more than likely a love-less relationship now...
The only female that I know about, that has him by the cajones is that communist POS Valarie Jarrett...
If he truely respected this country and its citizens, would we be having this conversation???

To:  steelhead_trout
The bastard (acknowledged) son of a Cuban planter aristocrat- who went to the finest Jesuit schools and became a lawyer from Havana U., creates a prison island plantation of his own communistic slaves, rips off all the money from the seized private property of legal Cubans and US companies. Takes the money and sends it to Bank of Cuba in the City of London, and to Swiss banks. An international terrorist psycho and friend of Jimmah Cahtah. A cocaine smuggler/enabler to this day.
He shakes hand with anti-communist Quaker Richard Nixon, whom the left ran out of office because their book of whores was discovered in the Watergate breakin (done without Nixon's knowledge by his psycho loyalists)- and one of the whores was John Dean's wife. This is the truth. And the whole thing could have been avoided, because there was NO way McGovern was ever going to win the presidency.
But, it is important to know the provenance of all these connections. The Castros are a criminal conspiracy- the usual S. American dictator ripoffs. All in the style of Patrice Lumumba, Mugabe.... and NELSON MANDELA and his charming ex-wife Winnie"Necklace" Mandela.
You can't make this stuff up. And the millions who have suffered and died for freedom- you can't make that up either. Pray for their Peace wherever they now lie.

To:  Innovative
Did 0bama bow too?
Well, it's not that unusual...
5.56mm

To:  Innovative
That's the ole Bowbama! Bowing to the communist!


To:  Innovative
Raul think: "This guys an idiot, and I already own him without firing a shot"

To:  Innovative
Obozo: "I only hope that my pres__dency is as successful as your brother's reign (of terror)"

To:  Innovative
Looks like he is bending over in another bow to me. Kissing the ring.
2013-12-10 11:28:06 AM  
1 votes:

Ring of Fire: Believe it or not a simple hand shake with someone who is widely regarded as an "enemy" the the United States can go a long way to showing the world that we are willing to work with others to make the world a better place and that we at least respect other countries.


This is, specifically and literally, the exact thing that they object to so strongly.

Seriously.
2013-12-10 11:25:28 AM  
1 votes:

ManateeGag: And what should he have done at the funeral?  Punched him in the face?


I came here to say this.

Seriously, paranoid haters. Grow up.
2013-12-10 11:23:21 AM  
1 votes:

super_grass: Diplomats and politicians shake hands.

Now watch in amazement as nobody in this thread overreact like the headline suggested.


We won't. I assume someone will be here soon with comments from elsewhere we can enjoy though.
2013-12-10 11:16:56 AM  
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One is a ruthless dictator - the other is President of Cuba
2013-12-10 11:16:32 AM  
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And what should he have done at the funeral?  Punched him in the face?
2013-12-10 11:09:59 AM  
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They were merely exchanging long protein strings. If you can think of a simpler way, I'd like to hear it.
2013-12-10 10:54:32 AM  
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So, Obama's had at least some sort of contact with the presidents of Iran and Cuba?

What a foreign policy lightweight.
2013-12-10 10:50:46 AM  
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Mandela, Obama, Castro. They are all Communists. Castro just hasn't won the Nobel Prize.

Yet.
2013-12-10 10:45:06 AM  
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