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(Guardian)   In a move that will surely go unnoticed, President Obama shakes hands with Cuban President Raul Castro at Nelson Mandela's memorial service. Aw, who is Subby kidding- THIS IS AN OUTRAGE   (theguardian.com) divider line 354
    More: Interesting, President of Cuba, President Raul Castro, Nelson Mandela, President Obama, humans, moral clarity, Cuban Revolution, President of Brazil  
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2013-12-10 12:39:31 PM

Serious Black: Come on, man. You can't let me leave some bait out without squishing it and making it look less attractive to the fishies?


nope, as a social democrat, I can't let you have fun :P
 
2013-12-10 12:39:45 PM

KellyX: LessO2: Aaaaaand the derp just keeps on coming....

"If he was going to shake his hand, he should have asked him about those basic freedoms Mandela was associated with that are denied in Cuba," [Marco] Rubio told ABC News.

Source

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That's what I'm seeing from the conservatives


Who cares? Communism leads to a tiny elite controlling the majority of the resources.

In Capitalism, is there any effective different? The Party, The Corporation, The King? Does it really matter?
 
2013-12-10 12:39:47 PM

shastacola: Look at the comments in the Politico article, or on Free Republic or Red State. Like clockwork.


It's so hard to tell which ones are true believers and which ones are parody posts.
 
2013-12-10 12:40:45 PM
I'm okay with this.

Yes, Mandela had some ugly allies. He (and the ANC) went for help to them because nobody else would give them the time of day. Cuba helped rid the world of apartheid, whether Marco Rubio likes it or not.

Now if Obama had shaken Mugabe's hand? That would not be nearly as okay.

/He's not bowing, Obama is tall and Raul is 82.
//Please tell me he didn't shake Mugabe's hand.
 
2013-12-10 12:43:38 PM

MikeyFuccon: super_grass: Far more scandalous:

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Any word on who that woman is?


Prime Minister of Denmark.
 
2013-12-10 12:44:07 PM
Anyone else think that photo looks good for the US by PR standards? Obama towers over Castro as if to imply he's doing him a favor just by bending down to his level.

/The embargo against Cuba is utter farking nonsense
 
2013-12-10 12:44:49 PM

BMulligan: BojanglesPaladin: BKITU: ... there is an old generation of Cuban exiles, and their immediate descendents, who are eternally (though understandably) butthurt about having their factories and shops nationalized by the Castro regime.

You are overlooking the subsequent refugees and people who risked their lives to escape over the intervening decades. Cuban expatriate hatred of Castro's revolution is not just the exiled bourgeoisie.

By "subsequent refugees," I presume you're referring to the boatloads of criminals and thugs Castro bequeathed to us?


Pretty sure he's talking about the political/economic refugees that string together a crappy raft and try to float to Florida all the time.
 
2013-12-10 12:45:35 PM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: I'm imagining an orgy featuring her, the Thai PM, Michele, and Biden sitting in the corner serving up beer.


Come on! Biden would be balls deep in that.
 
2013-12-10 12:45:57 PM

BojanglesPaladin: shastacola: Look at the comments in the Politico article, or on Free Republic or Red State. Like clockwork.

It's so hard to tell which ones are true believers and which ones are parody posts.


Welcome to Poe Country.
 
2013-12-10 12:46:25 PM

super_grass: Diplomats and politicians shake hands.

Now watch in amazement as nobody in this thread overreact like the headline suggested.


But freepers never let us down!

Really. The joke is that Mandela, Castro (Fidel and Raul) and Obama are all socialist, murdering, bastard commies.
 
2013-12-10 12:48:21 PM
Wow. Fidel is 87. It's like he's intentionally sticking around because he knows change won't come until after he's dead.
 
2013-12-10 12:48:28 PM

Mikey1969: WI241TH: Mikey1969: To: Innovative
Obozo: "I only hope that my pres__dency is as successful as your brother's reign (of terror)"

Anybody have any idea what the underscore/missing "I" is all about?

Maybe only Commies spell it with an 'i'? Either that, or the poster doesn't consider Obama's Presidency to be "legitimate", so by leaving out a letter, he's not "officially" calling Obama President? It's all I can think of.


Could be something along the lines of he's an egotist so it's all about him, even took the I from president...

The only thing he should say if asked about it is, "He had very nice things to say about Ted Cruz's father."
 
2013-12-10 12:49:42 PM

jst3p: super_grass: Diplomats and politicians shake hands.

Now watch in amazement as nobody in this thread overreact like the headline suggested.

But freepers never let us down!

Really. The joke is that Mandela, Castro (Fidel and Raul) and Obama are all socialist, murdering, bastard commies.


At least Henry Kissinger is there to balance the scales.
 
2013-12-10 12:51:19 PM

WI241TH: Mikey1969: WI241TH: Mikey1969: To: Innovative
Obozo: "I only hope that my pres__dency is as successful as your brother's reign (of terror)"

Anybody have any idea what the underscore/missing "I" is all about?

Maybe only Commies spell it with an 'i'? Either that, or the poster doesn't consider Obama's Presidency to be "legitimate", so by leaving out a letter, he's not "officially" calling Obama President? It's all I can think of.

Could be something along the lines of he's an egotist so it's all about him, even took the I from president...


I was thinking maybe it was a racist Ebonics thing, but then they'd spell it with an apostrophe instead of an underscore.

/The "joke" nicknames they use like this without realizing that no one else understands them shows exactly how far down the echo chamber rabbit hole Freepers are.
 
2013-12-10 12:54:29 PM

skullkrusher: somedude210: Serious Black: Never in the history of existence across all known and unknown universes has a more wrong statement ever been uttered. Capitalists are perfect in every conceivable way, and Communists are all so evil and sociopathic they make Satan himself recoil in fear.

you joke, but someone will take you seriously.

skullkrusher: Seriously though, communists suck.

no more so than "DEREGULATE EVERYTHING" capitalists

Meh. Under a fully deregulated capitalist system, communism is still possible. Not so under a communist state. I wonder why capitalist states don't have to outlaw communes but communist societies always have to outlaw private enterprise?


Oh, FFS...you guys really think Obama's a communist, don't you?  I mean all snark and sarcasm aside...you REALLY think he's a socialist....Don't you?  There is some small part of me that still thinks you know...deep down, somewhere that all the "Obama's a commie" is BS from the word 'go'...and are just engaging in some kind of theatrical positioning....but...no...you guys ACTUALLY believe it!!!!

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-10 12:55:37 PM
Pff.  Our Navy has been friendly with Castro since at least 2012.

i40.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-10 01:05:41 PM
Handshakegate?
Handshakegazi?

I'm half tempted to go look at Freeper or American Stinker or something, but I'm not that brave.
 
2013-12-10 01:06:26 PM

WI241TH: Could be something along the lines of he's an egotist so it's all about him, even took the I from president...


I meant to "This" this when I responded... Good call, I was thinking about this possibility as well...
 
2013-12-10 01:07:47 PM
At least Obama didn't bow. Not much anyway.

It totally figures that low information Obama voters wouldn't see why/how this is a bad thing.

Besides this is the reason Obama went to the thing. Michelle is the best part of that picture. She don't like that Danish blond chick.
 
2013-12-10 01:08:57 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0
Number of people complaining about people complaining about Obama shaking Castro's Hand: 36


Almost the exact proportion of people who are offended by the words "Merry Christmas" to people who complain about people who are offended by the words "Merry Christmas." Whodathunkit?
 
2013-12-10 01:10:26 PM
BojanglesPaladin: BKITU: ... there is an old generation of Cuban exiles, and their immediate descendents, who are eternally (though understandably) butthurt about having their factories and shops nationalized by the Castro regime.

You are overlooking the subsequent refugees and people who risked their lives to escape over the intervening decades. Cuban expatriate hatred of Castro's revolution is not just the exiled bourgeoisie.


By "subsequent refugees," I presume you're referring to the boatloads of criminals and thugs Castro bequeathed to us?

Shhhhh, we're supposed to pretend BojanglesPaladin didn't know that.  (It doesn't fit his narrative.)
 
2013-12-10 01:11:16 PM
Tax Boy:

img.fark.net

Proper, statesmanlike behavior.

i.imgur.com

Goddamnit...
 
2013-12-10 01:11:21 PM

super_grass: Diplomats and politicians shake hands.

Now watch in amazement as nobody in this thread overreact like the headline suggested.


It's almost as if people construct caricatures of of their political foes because they are easier to argue with...
 
2013-12-10 01:13:36 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Mikey1969: No, that's here(EXACTLY like the headline suggested):http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3100206/posts


Dude. No one here cares what happens in freeperville. Leave that shiat there.


You presume to speak for me?
 
2013-12-10 01:13:40 PM

barneyfifesbullet: At least Obama didn't bow. Not much anyway.

It totally figures that low information Obama voters wouldn't see why/how this is a bad thing.


Why and how is this a bad thing?
 
2013-12-10 01:16:14 PM

MontanaDave: You presume to speak for me?


Exactly, I find Freepers to be a perfect case study of living in an alternate reality
 
2013-12-10 01:16:21 PM

super_grass: Far more scandalous:

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That guy in front of Obama is looking for about tree fiddy
 
2013-12-10 01:17:01 PM

MontanaDave: BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0
Number of people complaining about people complaining about Obama shaking Castro's Hand: 36

Almost the exact proportion of people who are offended by the words "Merry Christmas" to people who complain about people who are offended by the words "Merry Christmas." Whodathunkit?


Who complains about people who are offended by "Merry Christmas"?

Now, people who are offended by people who DON'T say "Merry Christmas", that's a whole other matter (Cause New Year's and Kwanzaa don't count as "holidays")*


*This is a specific rebuttal to O'Relly's complaint that 'Happy Holidays" is offensive and stupid because there's only one upcoming holiday.
 
2013-12-10 01:17:15 PM

skullkrusher: It's a shame seeing all that froth go to waste... Yes A Cave Geek. The President, Barack HUSSEIN Sotero is a Communist, Muslim Muslin, Atheist whitey hating demon spawn. Not that fake Jew or Hindu sort of demon neither.


Come on man, this is 100-level stuff.
 
2013-12-10 01:17:36 PM

Ring of Fire: Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US,


and yet, my commute past the immigration office always reveals a line out the door.
 
2013-12-10 01:18:47 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-10 01:20:46 PM

MontanaDave: Almost the exact proportion of people who are offended by the words "Merry Christmas" to people who complain about people who are offended by the words "Merry Christmas." Whodathunkit?


I don't know. That sounds like you are trying to put your own axe on the grinder.

MontanaDave: You presume to speak for me?


If you want to know what's happening in Freeperville, you know where to go.
 
2013-12-10 01:21:07 PM

o5iiawah: Ring of Fire: Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US,

and yet, my commute past the immigration office always reveals a line out the door.


To get away from a situation they find unworkable. Not because they think Americans are swell.
 
2013-12-10 01:21:31 PM

Soonerpsycho: [i.imgur.com image 700x313]


Memorial.
 
2013-12-10 01:21:49 PM

Soonerpsycho: [i.imgur.com image 700x313]


Not a funeral.
 
2013-12-10 01:22:07 PM

o5iiawah: Ring of Fire: Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US,

and yet, my commute past the immigration office always reveals a line out the door.


Which totally negates his first point...Unless your immigration office has something like 4 billion people in line.
 
2013-12-10 01:23:53 PM
On a scale of 1 to Iran-Contra, how outraged should I be?
 
2013-12-10 01:24:33 PM
ZOMG The M00ch is gonna beat the living shiat out of Barry tonite!
 
2013-12-10 01:25:22 PM
Evidently some people have never been to a funeral.


/laughter is the best medicine you tards. Anyone that says they've never laughed at one is a liar.
 
2013-12-10 01:26:36 PM

phenn: To get away from a situation they find unworkable. Not because they think Americans are swell.


I think you are conflating a distaste for American Foreign policy with a dislike of America as a country. All over the world, people know and understand that they can have it better living in America, even if they think poorly of American tourists and dislike our foreign policy.

So yeah, they may have a beef with our exercise of hard and soft power globally, and be contemptuous of the stereotypical "American abroad", but at the end of the day, a lot of people want to BE Americans, and are very willing to sacrifice everything for the chance to come here and be part of this.

That is a good thing.
 
2013-12-10 01:27:01 PM

Lord_Baull: Evidently some people have never been to a funeral.


/laughter is the best medicine you tards. Anyone that says they've never laughed at one is a liar.


My step-grandfather died earlier this year and my uncle had some of the funniest stories about him that I have ever heard. It was an excellent memorial. He was a very funny guy.
 
2013-12-10 01:30:54 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0


Lets take a walk over to Breitbart or Drudge and see how little they care over there.

[checks the conservatard sites]

Oh my. Well. Now I need a shower.
 
2013-12-10 01:33:04 PM
I'm hearing more teapartier outrage over Obama's selfie than I am over the handshake.
 
2013-12-10 01:33:30 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Arkanaut: karnal: Ring of Fire: Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US, not because of our freedoms, but because it's full of arrogant ass holes who think they are better than the rest of the world and get to decide who and what they want to blow up next with no thoughts about the consequences of their actions.  Believe it or not a simple hand shake with someone who is widely regarded as an "enemy" the the United States can go a long way to showing the world that we are willing to work with others to make the world a better place and that we at least respect other countries.

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You have shown the error of our ways.  Bush may have invaded a country for no reason, violated the Geneva Convention, and wasted thousands of American lives, but he did it humbly.  Like how he so humbly made that stirring speech on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln in that humble flight suit.

To be fair he sure did look cute in that suit. He put it on all by himself just like a big boy. Just like a child with downsyndrome on halloween night, Geroge was adorable.


So, Batkid plus 50 years and at the same level of intellect?
 
2013-12-10 01:34:29 PM

Lando Lincoln: BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0
Lets take a walk over to Breitbart or Drudge and see how little they care over there.


And? I'm talking about Fark.
Why would anyone care what's going on at the derp factories?
 
2013-12-10 01:34:48 PM

somedude210: Blame Harry Farking Truman and his Sec. of State for that
/and the Dullus Brothers


John Foster Dulles deserves the bulk of the credit. Certainly far more than Marshall or Acheson, who were providing aid to Europe to try and win them over from Communist influence. The "you're with us or you're with the communists" binary crap that led to us propping up dictators and whatnot was JF Dulles' great contribution to world history.

And you're right, Allen Dulles was a treat too.
 
2013-12-10 01:34:58 PM

Lando Lincoln: BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0

Lets take a walk over to Breitbart or Drudge and see how little they care over there.

[checks the conservatard sites]

Oh my. Well. Now I need a shower.


Or just google Fox News Raul Castro,it's been the outrage du jour for most of the day there.Apparently the lack of outrage on one thread on Fark is proof that the usual right wing fake outrage machine is totally not going there.
 
2013-12-10 01:34:59 PM

Lord_Baull: Evidently some people have never been to a funeral.


/laughter is the best medicine you tards. Anyone that says they've never laughed at one is a liar.


Ease up there, chief. There is a large difference between regaling humorous tales of the deceased to others and acting like a bunch of tweens at a dance.
 
2013-12-10 01:35:51 PM

Lord_Baull: On a scale of 1 to Iran-Contra, how outraged should I be?


This is about 18 milliBenghazis. Hardly even a blip on the radar.
 
2013-12-10 01:35:56 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Lando Lincoln: BojanglesPaladin: Number of People Criticizing Obama for Shaking Castro's hand in this thread: 0
Lets take a walk over to Breitbart or Drudge and see how little they care over there.

And? I'm talking about Fark.
Why would anyone care what's going on at the derp factories?


Because people actually believe the derp factories.  Worse, they're allowed to vote!
 
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