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(Guardian)   In a move that will surely go unnoticed, President Obama shakes hands with Cuban President Raul Castro at Nelson Mandela's memorial service. Aw, who is Subby kidding- THIS IS AN OUTRAGE   (theguardian.com) divider line 354
    More: Interesting, President of Cuba, President Raul Castro, Nelson Mandela, President Obama, humans, moral clarity, Cuban Revolution, President of Brazil  
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2013-12-10 12:05:01 PM  

BMulligan: simkatu: Obama and Raul shaking hands is a terrible act that diminishes America and makes us look weak on the world stage.

However, Nixon (R) shaking hands with Chairman Mao was the greatest thing a brilliant American statesman has ever done.

/I bet if Nixon was a (D) and black if he would have been tried for treason and hung for this.

Hanged, not hung. Remember - horse thieves are hanged; Dick Cheney is hung.


John Holmes was hanged.
 
2013-12-10 12:05:06 PM  

karnal: Ring of Fire: Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US, not because of our freedoms, but because it's full of arrogant ass holes who think they are better than the rest of the world and get to decide who and what they want to blow up next with no thoughts about the consequences of their actions.  Believe it or not a simple hand shake with someone who is widely regarded as an "enemy" the the United States can go a long way to showing the world that we are willing to work with others to make the world a better place and that we at least respect other countries.

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You have shown the error of our ways.  Bush may have invaded a country for no reason, violated the Geneva Convention, and wasted thousands of American lives, but he did it humbly.  Like how he so humbly made that stirring speech on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln in that humble flight suit.
 
2013-12-10 12:05:27 PM  

Antidamascus: super_grass: Diplomats and politicians shake hands.

Now watch in amazement as nobody in this thread overreact like the headline suggested.

We won't. I assume someone will be here soon with comments from elsewhere we can enjoy though.

Fresh from YaHell:


Two things would happen if we lifted sanctions with Cuba. We could legally smoke their cigars and we would have thousands of Cubans pouring in by the day to live a free life of welfare on the expense of tax payers dollars. Why is it so hard for liberals to see that? Do you actually think they would come here to work?

I think this thread would be a good place to demonstrate that the Fox News Propaganda really does work on a lot of people.

The only way I'd ever shake hands with Obi is if I'd just used it to scrape Dog-S#!t off my shoe.

Two communist together, Obama love Hugo Chavez , Fidel Castro and Raul Castro, they are from the same school.

Obama will "suck up" to anyone! I am surprised he did not bow down again...

Now about the group hug, maybe with a Russian, or some other communuist. Don't care if Obama is Black, he is a socialist and wants to distroy democracy has we know it.

If Obama would have been president during the Cuban missile crisis we'd all be speaking Spanish or Russian by now.

When the media sells us on a "historic" handshake with a Communist strongman that oppresses his people, then you KNOW we can no longer trust our media and must call them what they are...Propagandists.

Oh I get it, One hand shake and Lying Obama has got relations back with Cuba, The liberal Media does not know what to do, There leader is proving to be a compulsive liar and The Worst Leader of the free world in HISTORY ///

.....AND THE WINNER IS>>>>>>>....The headline should read..."Evil Marxist Communist Ideologue Shakes Hands with Cuban President"
 
2013-12-10 12:06:15 PM  
I'm in agreement with most of the farkers here.  Politeness, courtesy, respect and deference are NOT anti-American sentiments.  As a matter of fact, they are some of the MOST American sentiments you can find.  So to all of you low-lifes who whine about Obama 'bowing to another' or some other ridiculous, juvenile garbage, grow up.

Just.  Grow.  The.  Fark.  Up.

You simply cannot have any kind of friendly dialogue with anyone who doesn't show you some respect.  And if you want respect?  You have to show some, too. You want "common courtesy"?  Show some.  You want others to respect your 'traditions'?  Respect theirs.  It's a two-way street that Republicans just can't seem to understand any more.

You can love him or hate him, but Bill Clinton said it most perfectly:  "The rest of the world has always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the examples of our power."

So seriously.  You want the Middle East/Iran/NK to act like grown-ups?  Start by acting like one yourself.
 
2013-12-10 12:06:37 PM  
O'bummer shoulda taken Asstro out to teh northwoods and learned him a thing or 3.
 
2013-12-10 12:08:00 PM  

swaniefrmreddeer: So how long until the teabaggers claim Mandela would have been outraged at such a thing? They do have a habit of putting right wing derp in dead politicians mouths.


No you have it wrong.  Mandela was a known communist sympathizer.  Well that part is actually true.  Remember the US backed the apartheid government because it was anti-ANC.  So this will be seen as the reuniting of 3 commies.
 
2013-12-10 12:08:36 PM  

vernonFL: Mandela, Obama, Castro. They are all Communists. Castro just hasn't won the Nobel Prize.

Yet.


Wait for it.  Thaw in relations and he'll get it.
 
2013-12-10 12:09:15 PM  

karnal: One is a ruthless dictator - the other is President of Cuba


10/10.
 
2013-12-10 12:09:26 PM  
The Embargo and the decades of hostility of the USA against Cuba boils down to this:

Cuba demonstrated to the world, but specifically to Central and South American countries, that the USA could be successfully defied. That a tiny country could resist aggressive American foreign policy and not be violently overthrown by Washington.

Just like in the Mob, anyone who defies the Bosses has to be "made an example of".

Remember, back in Castro's early days there were many American-backed South and Central American dictators doing some truly horrific thing to their populations.
 
2013-12-10 12:09:44 PM  

Ring of Fire: Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US, not because of our freedoms, but because it's full of arrogant ass holes who think they are better than the rest of the world and get to decide who and what they want to blow up next with no thoughts about the consequences of their actions.  Believe it or not a simple hand shake with someone who is widely regarded as an "enemy" the the United States can go a long way to showing the world that we are willing to work with others to make the world a better place and that we at least respect other countries.


You don't sound Murican to me you commie, socialist libtard!!!


/seriously though that was well put and honestly has no place here.
 
2013-12-10 12:10:14 PM  

TopNotched: Two things would happen if we lifted sanctions with Cuba. We could legally smoke their cigars and we would have thousands of Cubans pouring in by the day to live a free life of welfare on the expense of tax payers dollars. Why is it so hard for liberals to see that? Do you actually think they would come here to work?


I don't get it, if we normalize relations, wouldn't that mean we would no longer treat Cuban refugees preferentially in granting them absolute political asylum once they reach our shores?
 
2013-12-10 12:11:51 PM  

simkatu: Obama and Raul shaking hands is a terrible act that diminishes America and makes us look weak on the world stage.

However, Nixon (R) shaking hands with Chairman Mao was the greatest thing a brilliant American statesman has ever done.


[www.realclearpolitics.com image 590x457]

/I bet if Nixon was a (D) and black if he would have been tried for treason and hung for this.


Hence the saying:  Only Nixon could go to China.
 
2013-12-10 12:12:31 PM  

RyogaM: TopNotched: Two things would happen if we lifted sanctions with Cuba. We could legally smoke their cigars and we would have thousands of Cubans pouring in by the day to live a free life of welfare on the expense of tax payers dollars. Why is it so hard for liberals to see that? Do you actually think they would come here to work?

I don't get it, if we normalize relations, wouldn't that mean we would no longer treat Cuban refugees preferentially in granting them absolute political asylum once they reach our shores?


Um, just to be clear, I know you are not the author of the derp, and can't be expected to explain the inner working of the fevered mind of it's true author.
 
2013-12-10 12:13:24 PM  

utharda: ManateeGag: And what should he have done at the funeral?  Punched him in the face?

Last I checked neither Obama, Castro, nor Madela were irish.


Obama is Irish.

http://www.origins.net/help/resarticle-obama.aspx
 
2013-12-10 12:13:48 PM  
I guess the POTUS didn't get the memo that funeral selfies are in bad taste.
cdn.breitbart.com
 
2013-12-10 12:16:38 PM  

KellyX: That's what I'm seeing from the conservatives


If I recall correctly, the Cubans hold a special place in South Africa. They list over a hundred Cuban soldiers by name on their war memorial alongside fallen South Africans.

This might be useful to know:

"In the 70s and 80s the CIA sent cash, guns and troops to apartheid South Africa and to the National Union for the Total Independence of Angola (UNITA) while it was fighting the left-wing Soviet-backed People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA). For its part, Cuba sent 15,000 troops to fight the the apartheid South African army and its CIA-backed Angolan allies.
The eventual victory of black Cuban and Angolan troops over the white South African army, culminating in the battle at Cuito Cuanavale in 1988, was highly symbolic, and drove a nail into the pernicious myth of white superiority which helped sustain the unjust apartheid system.

As Mandela himself put it:
"The defeat of the racist army at Cuito Cuanavale has made it possible for me to be here today. What other country can point to a record of greater selflessness than Cuba has displayed in its relations with Africa? For the Cuban people internationalism is not merely a word but something that we have seen practiced to the benefit of large sections of humankind."
 
2013-12-10 12:19:35 PM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-12-10 12:20:15 PM  

KellyX: That's what I'm seeing from the conservatives


When will conservatives finally realize that communists aren't bad people, just as capitalists aren't bad people. There have been bad things done in the name of communism as well as capitalism, but being in favor of one or the other does not mean you are better or worse than someone else. Bad things have been done in the name of every religion too, yet we still claim one is better than another.

Tell them to pull their heads out of their asses and accept that communism is not inherently evil and they've fallen victim to a massive propaganda scheme the US did to paint communists as bad people post WW2.

Blame Harry Farking Truman and his Sec. of State for that
/and the Dullus Brothers
//Fark those guys
 
2013-12-10 12:20:54 PM  

i42.tinypic.com

 
2013-12-10 12:21:02 PM  
Reagan with the Afghani "freedom fighters" before they went back to being Muslim terrorists.

www.globalresearch.ca
 
2013-12-10 12:22:45 PM  

Soonerpsycho: I guess the POTUS didn't get the memo that funeral selfies are in bad taste.
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Not a funeral, so much as a celebration of the man's life. And it's the PMOTKOD who is taking the selfie, POTUS and PMOTUK are just photobombing.
 
2013-12-10 12:23:21 PM  
a.abcnews.com
"Thanks for Ted Cruz, asshole"
 
2013-12-10 12:24:01 PM  
Did Raul thank Obama for keeping him in power by continuing the embargo?
 
2013-12-10 12:24:01 PM  
media.smithsonianmag.com
 
2013-12-10 12:24:47 PM  
crooksandliars.com

Communism or capitalism, either way the poor get screwed, hahahaha
 
2013-12-10 12:25:12 PM  
Far more scandalous:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-10 12:25:21 PM  

Ring of Fire: Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US, not because of our freedoms, but because it's full of arrogant ass holes who think they are better than the rest of the world and get to decide who and what they want to blow up next with no thoughts about the consequences of their actions.  Believe it or not a simple hand shake with someone who is widely regarded as an "enemy" the the United States can go a long way to showing the world that we are willing to work with others to make the world a better place and that we at least respect other countries.


See, there's your problem right there.
 
2013-12-10 12:26:18 PM  

ManateeGag: And what should he have done at the funeral?  Punched him in the face?


MAH GAWD KING!  Another left hand!  And another left hand!

You know conservatives would have loved it. (If he wasn't so black, at least.  As is, they would of course attack him whatever he did)
 
2013-12-10 12:26:30 PM  
twoterroristsshakinghands.jpg

i41.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-10 12:27:56 PM  

somedude210: When will conservatives finally realize that communists aren't bad people, just as capitalists aren't bad people. There have been bad things done in the name of communism as well as capitalism, but being in favor of one or the other does not mean you are better or worse than someone else. Bad things have been done in the name of every religion too, yet we still claim one is better than another.


Never in the history of existence across all known and unknown universes has a more wrong statement ever been uttered. Capitalists are perfect in every conceivable way, and Communists are all so evil and sociopathic they make Satan himself recoil in fear.
 
2013-12-10 12:28:03 PM  
Was Obama supposed to reach out his hand then pull it back, smooth his hair and yell "Psych!"
 
2013-12-10 12:28:13 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: odinsposse: Okay, I can't think of a good reason but Reagan hated them so fark Cuba forever and ever.


Umm... yeah. The anti-Cuba thing started with Reagan. absolutely. That was a key issue for Reagan. Before Reagan, we really had no issue with Cuba. It's all Reagan's fault really. If only Reagan hadn't launched that Bay of Pigs fiasco. Stupid Reagan.


Umm... yeah. It actually began with Eisenhower's CIA director Allen Dulles that Kennedy kept. The whole operation was blown because Dulles left the planning and execution to subordinates and Kennedy refused to commit the US military to the enterprise. Something he said would refuse from the beginning of his administration.
 
2013-12-10 12:28:22 PM  

flucto: Oh boy, here comes the commie Muslim wealth confiscating death panels.


Oh please oh please
 
2013-12-10 12:29:06 PM  

Mikey1969: To: Innovative
Obozo: "I only hope that my pres__dency is as successful as your brother's reign (of terror)"


Anybody have any idea what the underscore/missing "I" is all about?
 
2013-12-10 12:30:30 PM  

brandent: Obama is Irish.


I've actually been to Obama's "Ancestral Irish Home". Good stuff.

But yeah, that's tenuous at best. Still, a very good example of the melting pot that is America.
 
2013-12-10 12:30:37 PM  

brandent: swaniefrmreddeer: So how long until the teabaggers claim Mandela would have been outraged at such a thing? They do have a habit of putting right wing derp in dead politicians mouths.

No you have it wrong.  Mandela was a known communist sympathizer.  Well that part is actually true.  Remember the US backed the apartheid government because it was anti-ANC.  So this will be seen as the reuniting of 3 commies.


They have co-opted  JFK, Rosa Parks, and MLK, it's only a matter of time before they add Mandela to their ranks.
 
2013-12-10 12:31:15 PM  

super_grass: Far more scandalous:

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Any word on who that woman is?
 
2013-12-10 12:31:36 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: It's because Cuba are best friends with Venezuela and support left-wing anti-American political movements across LatAm.


Well, after the collapse of the soviet union, and given that the world's largest economy located 50 miles off their shore refuses to trade with them, what realistic options have they have other than buddying up with the rest of latin america?  If you wanted to undermine the Castro(s) regime, the easiest way to do so would be through the hearts and minds of the Cuban people.

Chummer45: Yeah. I mean, we sort of pushed Castro in that direction and tried to kill him a bunch of times and all, so I guess our hands aren't entirely clean here.  It would be great for both countries if we could finally normalize relations with Cuba.  I'd love to go to Cuba legally.


It's beautiful, but honestly the best part about Cuba is the absence of American tourists.  It's like a sanctuary.  Don't take that away from us.
 
2013-12-10 12:32:30 PM  

MikeyFuccon: super_grass: Far more scandalous:

[i.imgur.com image 820x960]

Any word on who that woman is?


Danish PM
 
2013-12-10 12:34:25 PM  

Serious Black: Never in the history of existence across all known and unknown universes has a more wrong statement ever been uttered. Capitalists are perfect in every conceivable way, and Communists are all so evil and sociopathic they make Satan himself recoil in fear.


you joke, but someone will take you seriously.

skullkrusher: Seriously though, communists suck.


no more so than "DEREGULATE EVERYTHING" capitalists
 
2013-12-10 12:34:29 PM  

super_grass: Danish PM


Can't be. Danes are famously stand-offish. That woman was being friendly.
 
2013-12-10 12:35:19 PM  

WI241TH: Mikey1969: To: Innovative
Obozo: "I only hope that my pres__dency is as successful as your brother's reign (of terror)"

Anybody have any idea what the underscore/missing "I" is all about?


Maybe only Commies spell it with an 'i'? Either that, or the poster doesn't consider Obama's Presidency to be "legitimate", so by leaving out a letter, he's not "officially" calling Obama President? It's all I can think of.
 
2013-12-10 12:35:35 PM  

Arkanaut: karnal: Ring of Fire: Hey right wing nuts.  The majority of the people on this planet don't like the US, not because of our freedoms, but because it's full of arrogant ass holes who think they are better than the rest of the world and get to decide who and what they want to blow up next with no thoughts about the consequences of their actions.  Believe it or not a simple hand shake with someone who is widely regarded as an "enemy" the the United States can go a long way to showing the world that we are willing to work with others to make the world a better place and that we at least respect other countries.

[www.moonbattery.com image 500x341]

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 150x150]

[iranpoliticsclub.net image 311x313]

You have shown the error of our ways.  Bush may have invaded a country for no reason, violated the Geneva Convention, and wasted thousands of American lives, but he did it humbly.  Like how he so humbly made that stirring speech on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln in that humble flight suit.


To be fair he sure did look cute in that suit. He put it on all by himself just like a big boy. Just like a child with downsyndrome on halloween night, Geroge was adorable.
 
2013-12-10 12:35:37 PM  

super_grass: MikeyFuccon: super_grass: Far more scandalous:

[i.imgur.com image 820x960]

Any word on who that woman is?

Danish PM


I'm imagining an orgy featuring her, the Thai PM, Michele, and Biden sitting in the corner serving up beer.
 
2013-12-10 12:37:37 PM  

somedude210: Serious Black: Never in the history of existence across all known and unknown universes has a more wrong statement ever been uttered. Capitalists are perfect in every conceivable way, and Communists are all so evil and sociopathic they make Satan himself recoil in fear.

you joke, but someone will take you seriously.


Come on, man. You can't let me leave some bait out without squishing it and making it look less attractive to the fishies?
 
2013-12-10 12:38:21 PM  

super_grass: Diplomats and politicians shake hands.

Now watch in amazement as nobody in this thread overreact like the headline suggested.


One fark thread isn't really proof that the usual conservative faux outrage isn't boiling up. Look at the comments in the Politico article, or on Free Republic or Red State. Like clockwork.
 
2013-12-10 12:38:27 PM  

skullkrusher:
Seriously though, communists suck.


But sending a shiatload of doctors to provide free medical care in poor townships is pretty damned nice, regardless of political philosophy.
 
2013-12-10 12:38:46 PM  

jayhawk88: Don't worry: I have it on good authority the President got over on Raul:


So THAT's the reason he changed his name and only has one hand now!
 
2013-12-10 12:38:55 PM  

Mikey1969: Maybe only Commies spell it with an 'i'? Either that, or the poster doesn't consider Obama's Presidency to be "legitimate", so by leaving out a letter, he's not "officially" calling Obama President? It's all I can think of.


or it's an inside joke about how black people say presidency. He be presdentin' yo

only other thing I could think of
 
2013-12-10 12:39:26 PM  
RON PAUL - ON P + CASTRO =

RAUL CASTRO

/STUDY IT OUT
 
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