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(Deadline)   NBC feels that since The Sound of Music did so well, they're going to make a live musical show an annual franchise. So to all of you who watched the trainwreck, hope you're happy   (deadline.com) divider line 129
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2013-12-10 10:33:46 AM
Annual live stage performance on television: Great idea
Using non-stage actors to do it: terrible idea
 
2013-12-10 10:35:35 AM

propasaurus: Jim from Saint Paul: 1. The main problem is that they did/are-doing the live stage show WITHOUT AN AUDIENCE. These shows, especially those with a great deal of humor like SoM, feed off of audience participation. It gives the story a flow to hear applause for songs once completed.

2. While Underwood wasn;t god awful, she certainly was wooden and didn't really settle into the character till AFTER Maria comes back from the abbey. Funny, she felt more confident playing the character when the character starts displaying CONFIDENCE and willingness to take control of her life (which I would bet that Underwood related alot more too then the Maria that starts the show). So yes, please hire someone with a tad more acting chops fot the main character.

The thing is, you can;t tell me Underwood wouldn;t have relaxed and gotten into it alot more with an audience to work off of. She very much so is an audience participation kind of preformer and that would have helped her immensely.

3. Speaking of acting chops, Mr Von Trapp and every kid but Leisel and Grettle were pedestrian and replaceable. Very, very mediocre.

4. All complaints aside, I am happy they will continute to do it. I love me a good stage show. I just hope they add an audience of some kind for the actors to feed off of. The music was solid enough (then again, the music has stayed popular for almost 50 years so it would take alot to screw THAT part up.

Give the semicolon a rest.


Sorry about that.

If I don't proof read my posts, sometimes I think I have hit the ' and I hit ; instead. Can't always get my pinky to do what I want.

(had to fix the same thing twice just to fix the above sentence, lol)
 
2013-12-10 10:37:15 AM

Larry Mahnken: Annual live stage performance on television: Great idea
Using non-stage actors to do it: terrible idea


Not having an audience there to react to the stage show: Worst idea.
 
2013-12-10 10:38:01 AM

Mugato: I never even saw the original so I'm completely blameless.

/fark musicals
//except The Blues Brothers


Book of Mormon, Wicked and Mary Poppins are all great musicals.
 
2013-12-10 10:44:13 AM

LonMead: Chelle82: It's going to be Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber in "Bye Bye Birdie," isn't it?

With Taylor as Conrad? I'd watch that.


She breaks up with the Army?
 
2013-12-10 10:44:49 AM
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2013-12-10 10:49:15 AM
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It's only a model!
 
2013-12-10 10:54:23 AM

Nunpoo: Avenue Q or Sweeney Todd


Cinemax, Showtime.
 
2013-12-10 11:00:05 AM
Oh good, nexy year, it will be West Side Story starring Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber.
 
2013-12-10 11:02:02 AM
My friends and I were talking about this the other day and we all agreed: We didn't HATE the idea of broadway being introduced to the masses, it's just that this attempt had some issues that could easily be rectified.

1.) Hire a cast that's full of triple threats.  IE: They can sing, dance, act.   If you need a "star" name, it's possible. See: Hugh Jackman, Neil Patrick Harris, etc.
2.) Do it on a REAL stage with a LIVE audience/orchestra.  Sell tickets to the live show and make it a charity event for the arts (most of the $$$ from this thing is going to come from the spot buys anyway.   Get an extra ratings boost by giving some cash to a worthy cause.)
3.) Pick a musical with a lesser movie.  The Sound of Music is a classic that pretty much EVERYONE has seen the film version of.  The film, however, differs quite a bit from the stage book.  Don't set your audience up for disappointment by picking something like West Side Story.Do the The Music Man, Oklahoma, State Fair, The Pajama Game, etc.

There were probably more ideas, but you get the gist.
 
2013-12-10 11:05:11 AM
Where was Megan Mullally as Anastasia Beaverhausen as Mother Superior? It's not The Sound of Music without Karen Walker involved somehow.

/The bastard who's married to her took the word lucky, dropped in nitro injection, slapped a 3D 80 inch TV onto it and dipped it in 24K gold until the kerning between each sagging letter looked like that beautiful gap between her glorious tatas. Lucky lucky luck luck lucky bastard
 
2013-12-10 11:05:17 AM
Did NBC lose broadcast rights for SoM?

This wasn't needed and I'm thinking they lost or got tired of paying for the right to broadcast it once, maybe twice per year.

Since it wasn't good enough to match the original, they've backtracked and said they are going to do more live musicals in the coming years and that this was always the plan.  "We've always been at war with Eastasia"

At least until they get one with a favorable enough response to allow it to be rebroadcast.

/cynic
 
2013-12-10 11:09:20 AM
Eh, I'm not a big musical fan, but this seems kind of harmless considering the onslaught on shiatty reality programming tv is usually under.
 
2013-12-10 11:17:04 AM

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Eh, I'm not a big musical fan, but this seems kind of harmless considering the onslaught on shiatty reality programming tv is usually under.


Every sub-culture and hobby has it's elitest snobs.

ALL OF THEM.
 
2013-12-10 11:21:10 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: Where was Megan Mullally as Anastasia Beaverhausen as Mother Superior? It's not The Sound of Music without Karen Walker involved somehow.

/The bastard who's married to her took the word lucky, dropped in nitro injection, slapped a 3D 80 inch TV onto it and dipped it in 24K gold until the kerning between each sagging letter looked like that beautiful gap between her glorious tatas. Lucky lucky luck luck lucky bastard


The lucky bastard:

www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-12-10 11:34:11 AM
Watched it with the girlfriend, and she thought it was pretty good (except for Carrie Underwood's acting) and was really impressed with the production given the number of stages and cameras they had to juggle. She's in Show Business and knows these things.

/plus South Park is spot on about taking your girl to musicals. Giggity
 
2013-12-10 11:35:45 AM

Waldo Pepper: Persnickety: greentea1985: As long as they get a better cast next time, I'm ok with this. My issue with their live Sound of Music was that I didn't like Carrie Underwood's acting and didn't feel she was the right person for the role. Carrie can sing, but she can't act. If they cast someone else, I'm perfectly fine with it. I wouldn't mind a live-action Singing in the Rain if it was cast well.

Trouble is, no one will watch if it's just a bunch of Broadway types that most people have never heard of. I would guess that most of the audience had already seen SOM before.  What people tuned in to see was Carrie Underwood playing Maria.  Remove the star and there goes the audience.

SOM used the same shtick as Dancing with The Stars.  No one tunes in to watch professional dancers do stunning moves.  They watch to see Kirstie Alley or Bill Nye The Science Guy cutting a rug.

I disagree with your comparison. People tune into dancing with the stars to see "stars" either make fools of themselves or turn out to be good dancers.  I would say most fans of Miss Underwood tuned in to see her do well and most thought she did and those of us who tuned in hoping to see a good teleplay were disappointed.


My wife is a Carrie Underwood fan and even she admits that she couldn't pull off the acting.  I'm not a big fan so the only reason I watched was to see if she could pull it off.  Leave out Carrie Underwood and I wouldn't have bothered.  I think you are seriously discounting the star factor as the main draw to a show like this.


These shows should be done either one of two ways. One get the original broadway cast and you will get a market of people who love the shows and will watch it again and those who love the shows but can't afford to go..

No one will watch if it's Broadway types.  Back in 2007, MTV taped the live Broadway version of Legally Blonde, promoted the hell out of it and broadcast it uncut during prime time.  It's based on the reasonably well known movie, targeted at MTV's main demographic.  The songs were snappy, the actors were on target, the choreography was upbeat and live audience really added to the energy. But with no Reese Witherspoon or other big name star, the ratings were terrible and they've never done anything like that since.


 Second way get a star, stars and make sure if playing the main role they have the talent to pull it off and if you want a "the voice" star in it put them in a minor role where they have a song that shows off their voice

Easier said than done.  A typical Broadway star must be a true triple threat: a good singer, actor and dancer.  To make it as a TV star or movie star or pop star, you must be good looking and you must generally find success at a young age.  Auto tune, make up and Photoshop are big parts of that success but they're no help at all to performers on the Great White Way.


I hope NBC continues these type of shows and the next few should be the very popular shows.

Agreed.
 
2013-12-10 11:37:02 AM

Persnickety: Back in 2007, MTV taped the live Broadway version of Legally Blonde, promoted the hell out of it and broadcast it uncut during prime time.  It's based on the reasonably well known movie, targeted at MTV's main demographic.  The songs were snappy, the actors were on target, the choreography was upbeat and live audience really added to the energy. But with no Reese Witherspoon or other big name star, the ratings were terrible and they've never done anything like that since.


MTV showing something music-related? Yeah, right. Pretty sure this never happened.
 
2013-12-10 11:38:03 AM
Clueless NBC Exec: Muppets? In a Broadway musical? I don't need to see any more. That's an instant family classic! Green light it immediately and schedule "Avenue Q" for Christmas 2014!
 
2013-12-10 11:47:01 AM

Persnickety: No one will watch if it's Broadway types. Back in 2007, MTV taped the live Broadway version of Legally Blonde, promoted the hell out of it and broadcast it uncut during prime time. It's based on the reasonably well known movie, targeted at MTV's main demographic. The songs were snappy, the actors were on target, the choreography was upbeat and live audience really added to the energy. But with no Reese Witherspoon or other big name star, the ratings were terrible and they've never done anything like that since


While I agree with most of your point, keep in mind that Legally Blond came out in 2001. The demographic of people who watched that show were the same people who had been watching TOtal Request Live with Carson Daly. Not TRL. Not TRL without Carson Daly either.

When Daly left MTV and they started cutting full videos short for the countdown, that was literally the beginning of the end of music on that station. So 5 years after Daly left and 6 years after that movie comes out is MORE then enough time for the "target audience" to have moved on and not even given a damn about what MTV was doing. The "demographic" you are mentioning simply didn't watch that station anymore.
 
2013-12-10 11:59:20 AM
How about doing Mamma Mia, except this time with people who can actually sing.
 
2013-12-10 12:07:43 PM

NathanAllen: How about doing Mamma Mia, except this time with people who can actually sing.


Ok, so I like musicals. I do. However I have avoided Mama Mia as I am not a fan of ABBA music in general and the reviews were awful.

So this is the first time I have seen this.

And by god that is awful... like hilariously awful.

Like I am LAUGHING at Pierce Bronsan.

/at least Streep can sing
//makes me worry less for "Into the Woods" next year
 
2013-12-10 12:14:03 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Persnickety: No one will watch if it's Broadway types. Back in 2007, MTV taped the live Broadway version of Legally Blonde, promoted the hell out of it and broadcast it uncut during prime time. It's based on the reasonably well known movie, targeted at MTV's main demographic. The songs were snappy, the actors were on target, the choreography was upbeat and live audience really added to the energy. But with no Reese Witherspoon or other big name star, the ratings were terrible and they've never done anything like that since

While I agree with most of your point, keep in mind that Legally Blond came out in 2001. The demographic of people who watched that show were the same people who had been watching TOtal Request Live with Carson Daly. Not TRL. Not TRL without Carson Daly either.


I probably didn't say it well.  What I meant to say is that Legally Blonde is a story that appeals to teens, which has always been MTV's main demographic.  There's no reason the teens of 2007 would enjoy it any less than those of 2001 did.  By 2007, Legally Blonde the movie had made its way onto the small screen many times so there's even a good chance that the target audience was familiar with it and as such the 2007 showing had a bit of the Hollywood "remake" thing going for it.  Afterall, a story like Batman originated way back in 1939 but every generation is still eager to see "their" version of it.  That's kind of the marketing they were going for.  Still, no star = no ratings.
 
2013-12-10 12:14:36 PM
Jim from Saint Paul:

//makes me worry less for "Into the Woods" next year

You know, if James Woods wants to do gay porn, I say let him try.

/I waited decades to watch "The Onion Field". Damn. No matter how hard James Woods tried, there was nothing that could overcome bad 70's movie production.
/Someone ought to remake that thing
 
2013-12-10 12:20:09 PM
www.catsthemusical.com
 
2013-12-10 12:27:29 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: GameSprocket: JosephFinn: GameSprocket: They could do Into the Woods. I would love to hear the comments from people who let their kids keep watching after the first half.

There's a movie version coming out next year so probably not that one, much as I'd like to see it.

Really? You would think that would make me happy, but the odds of the movie really screwing up the musical is pretty damn high.

NEGATIVES: Johhny Depp is the Wolf and Anna Kendrick is Cinderella

POSITIVES: Kid who played Gavroshe in Les Mis plays Jack and his mom is played by Tracy Ulman.

WELL SEE: Meryl Streep plays the witch (can she sing?). Chris Pine plays "Cinderellas Prince" (can HE sing?). Rapunzel, Red Riding Hood, the Baker and his wife are all people I have not seen enough of anywhere.

So tl;dr -- This seems like it will be very hit or miss.


They're not doubling up the role of the Wolf and the Prince?  Sort of missing the point there.

As far as future musicals, they already do this on PBS and it's a million times better than having some popstar murder a classic in prime time.  Sondheim's Company with NPH and Friends was on a few weeks ago and was outstanding.
 
2013-12-10 12:49:01 PM
Rob Schinder is a stapler.
 
2013-12-10 12:55:03 PM
I do not see many comments on FARK about any of the shows from the "Great Performances" series.
 
2013-12-10 01:13:13 PM

Persnickety: Jim from Saint Paul: Persnickety: No one will watch if it's Broadway types. Back in 2007, MTV taped the live Broadway version of Legally Blonde, promoted the hell out of it and broadcast it uncut during prime time. It's based on the reasonably well known movie, targeted at MTV's main demographic. The songs were snappy, the actors were on target, the choreography was upbeat and live audience really added to the energy. But with no Reese Witherspoon or other big name star, the ratings were terrible and they've never done anything like that since

While I agree with most of your point, keep in mind that Legally Blond came out in 2001. The demographic of people who watched that show were the same people who had been watching TOtal Request Live with Carson Daly. Not TRL. Not TRL without Carson Daly either.

I probably didn't say it well.  What I meant to say is that Legally Blonde is a story that appeals to teens, which has always been MTV's main demographic.  There's no reason the teens of 2007 would enjoy it any less than those of 2001 did.  By 2007, Legally Blonde the movie had made its way onto the small screen many times so there's even a good chance that the target audience was familiar with it and as such the 2007 showing had a bit of the Hollywood "remake" thing going for it.  Afterall, a story like Batman originated way back in 1939 but every generation is still eager to see "their" version of it.  That's kind of the marketing they were going for.  Still, no star = no ratings.


I thought Legally Blonde handled the entire "underdog" story in a way that hadn;t really been done before, so it was a solid movie.

It wasn't groundbreaking, the idea of it being a msuical is awful (just like "Bring it On") and didn;t resonate with those same people.

And 6 years is an eternity to teenagers, you know that. Let's not act like LB was some kind of cultural corenerstone or something. It was an amusing movie. It was also a movie that had an awful sequel that was even fresher in the minds of anyone still hanging around MTV to watch it.
 
2013-12-10 01:18:25 PM
Of course, the far majority of people that are whining about it didn't even watch it.

That's the internet.
 
2013-12-10 01:24:16 PM

Persnickety: Jim from Saint Paul: Persnickety: No one will watch if it's Broadway types. Back in 2007, MTV taped the live Broadway version of Legally Blonde, promoted the hell out of it and broadcast it uncut during prime time. It's based on the reasonably well known movie, targeted at MTV's main demographic. The songs were snappy, the actors were on target, the choreography was upbeat and live audience really added to the energy. But with no Reese Witherspoon or other big name star, the ratings were terrible and they've never done anything like that since

While I agree with most of your point, keep in mind that Legally Blond came out in 2001. The demographic of people who watched that show were the same people who had been watching TOtal Request Live with Carson Daly. Not TRL. Not TRL without Carson Daly either.

I probably didn't say it well.  What I meant to say is that Legally Blonde is a story that appeals to teens, which has always been MTV's main demographic.  There's no reason the teens of 2007 would enjoy it any less than those of 2001 did.  By 2007, Legally Blonde the movie had made its way onto the small screen many times so there's even a good chance that the target audience was familiar with it and as such the 2007 showing had a bit of the Hollywood "remake" thing going for it.  Afterall, a story like Batman originated way back in 1939 but every generation is still eager to see "their" version of it.  That's kind of the marketing they were going for.  Still, no star = no ratings.


MTV is the wrong place to try that type of broadcast.  Maybe back in the early days of MTV they could have pulled off a live Rocky Horror Picture show or Little Shop of Horrors but nowdays their core audience is, heck I have no clue who watches MTV these days.
 
2013-12-10 01:24:46 PM
I am very happy, thank you very much. I am rooting for Anything Goes. The music is very singable if they want a name (although, please, not in the two lead roles). The book is by P.G. Wodehouse, so it's hysterical.
 
2013-12-10 01:25:47 PM
I saw about 45 min of it.

Underwood wasn't horrible.. the kids were.

That scene of the storm in the bedroom... I wanted to kick all of those kids faces.  (too much?)

I like the idea in general, and I think it should be in front of an audience (studio or stage).
 
2013-12-10 01:27:13 PM
It's going to be Grease. You know it. I know it.

Ugh.

I'm x-ing the needing for a live orchestra and toying with an audience wouldn't be the worst thing though I can see logistically how they wouldn't want to chance it.
 
2013-12-10 01:39:02 PM

MugzyBrown: I saw about 45 min of it.

Underwood wasn't horrible.. the kids were.

That scene of the storm in the bedroom... I wanted to kick all of those kids faces.  (too much?)

I like the idea in general, and I think it should be in front of an audience (studio or stage).


That's called American Playhouse.
 
2013-12-10 01:45:22 PM

MugzyBrown: I saw about 45 min of it.

Underwood wasn't horrible.. the kids were.

That scene of the storm in the bedroom... I wanted to kick all of those kids faces.  (too much?)

I like the idea in general, and I think it should be in front of an audience (studio or stage).


Don't kid yourself, she was horrible. The kids out acted and pretty much out sung her as well.
 
2013-12-10 01:53:19 PM
Do Jesus Christ Superstar. If you have the BALLS.

/They don't have the balls.
 
2013-12-10 02:04:42 PM
Xanadu. Do it.
 
2013-12-10 02:06:50 PM

Brawndo: I'd be down for a "Gwar Holiday Spectacular"


Now this, right here, is what we call a Good Idea!
 
2013-12-10 02:11:35 PM

Irving Maimway: Because nothing says Christmas like singing and Nazis!


I thought it was interesting that they showed Nazi flags displaying the swastika, but they wouldn't say Hitler.

And, subby, I'm very happy. Thank you for asking.
 
2013-12-10 02:12:14 PM
Kanye West and Kim Kardashian star in "Beauty & The Beast -- LIVE!"

I'm a-gonna let you finish,
I'm a-gonna let you finish,
Cause this song is full if win-ish,
If your candlesticks
Look like fish dicks
I will suck 'me cause I kin-ish
See my watch shaped like a crotch
I got it from Kim's sister the Sasquatch
It's quite shiny
Like her hiney
And dispatches year-old Scotch.
My album sales clearly pales
I can't sell out local jails
Though my ego's still enormous
I'm a megaflop of fails
I'm a-gonna let you finish...
I'm a-gonna let you finish...
I'M A-GONNA LET... YOU... FINISH!!!
 
2013-12-10 02:25:04 PM
Porgy n Bess
Guys n Dolls
Carousel
Rent
Oklahoma
A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum
South Pacific
Amahl & The Night Visitors
White Christmas (very much on the bubble, but hard to argue with it thematically)


Get Stars and a strong supporting cast. Choose younger musical acts so if the acting isn't top level, they have the cover of good will and low expectations. Family Friendly within reason, but please don't chop up existing librettos! Get an Audience! Fill it with make a wish kids, or offer a Golden Ticket sweepstake that you can promote throughout the year with commercial partnership opportunities. Coca-Cola's Holiday of Stars!
 
2013-12-10 02:41:22 PM
I said it in the other thread and I'll say it here: I found it entertaining.

And I think it's a great idea to turn this into an annual thing.
 
2013-12-10 02:41:58 PM

LlamaGirl: Please do Book of Mormon next. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease


I would also accept Avenue Q, or Rent (the letters to the station would be priceless).
 
2013-12-10 02:44:09 PM

aedude01: My friends and I were talking about this the other day and we all agreed: We didn't HATE the idea of broadway being introduced to the masses, it's just that this attempt had some issues that could easily be rectified.

1.) Hire a cast that's full of triple threats.  IE: They can sing, dance, act.   If you need a "star" name, it's possible. See: Hugh Jackman, Neil Patrick Harris, etc.
2.) Do it on a REAL stage with a LIVE audience/orchestra.  Sell tickets to the live show and make it a charity event for the arts (most of the $$$ from this thing is going to come from the spot buys anyway.   Get an extra ratings boost by giving some cash to a worthy cause.)
3.) Pick a musical with a lesser movie.  The Sound of Music is a classic that pretty much EVERYONE has seen the film version of.  The film, however, differs quite a bit from the stage book.  Don't set your audience up for disappointment by picking something like West Side Story.Do the The Music Man, Oklahoma, State Fair, The Pajama Game, etc.

There were probably more ideas, but you get the gist.


You need the big name to get the audience and ratings -- which is all NBC cares about.

For good execution of the above, though, see the film edition of Company. It was the most eclectic cast I've ever seen but they all had enough talent (most surprising of which being Stephen Colbert) to pull off stage acting/singing.
 
2013-12-10 02:45:53 PM
If I had my pick, I'd have them do How To Suceed in Business Without Really Trying with Daniel Radcliffe.

Radcliffe proved himself in the role in the recent Broadway revival. And he's a big enough of a name to get viewers to turn in. And the movie version isn't nearly so iconic so you don't have to worry about how a live version would compare. The dated elements can be tweaked and the overall satire on climbing the corporate ladder itself is timeless.
 
2013-12-10 03:03:30 PM

LlamaGirl: Please do Book of Mormon next. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease


THIS x 10,000
 
2013-12-10 03:05:32 PM
Kiss Me Kate is the best musical of all time. FACT.

And the movie was a lame 1950s 3-D gimmick with heavily-censored lyrics that got rid of all the witty double entendres and is totally ripe for a modern version.
 
2013-12-10 03:15:24 PM

shabu: White Christmas


Oh man... torn about this. Would totally watch it and totally rage hate it because i isn't the original.

/that one and Miracle on 34th street are the only Christmans movies that get played year around in my household
 
2013-12-10 03:27:25 PM
"Cannibal: The Musical"  (heck, it would be cheaper to get the rights than "Book of Mormon")

or...

They can go full Rifftrax and do "The Apple."
 
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