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(WTOP)   George Zimmerman's ex-girlfriend has decided that she doesn't want to press domestic charges against him, after all, but prosecutors may go ahead and do it anyway. DRINK   (wtop.com) divider line 107
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2013-12-10 08:13:27 AM
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2013-12-10 08:33:35 AM
How long until he's stealing trading cards at gunpoint?
 
2013-12-10 08:36:46 AM
Sounds like she woke up with bottle of iced tea and bag of Skittles in her bed.
 
2013-12-10 08:53:29 AM
A federal hate crimes investigation still hanging over his head, and now a DV charge the police won't drop despite an affidavit from the "victim" asking them not to prosecute.

If he wasn't crazy already, he will be soon.
 
2013-12-10 09:05:56 AM
Even if the charges are dropped, he's got 2.5 million dollars in debt and he just hired another $450 an hour lawyer to take his DV case.

He's already pretty screwed.
 
2013-12-10 09:06:47 AM
They are going to convict him of something
 
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2013-12-10 09:09:25 AM
It's not uncommon for domestic violence victims to recant their sorry.  That's what makes them such a headache.  Who the fark knows what happened.
 
2013-12-10 09:10:26 AM
Incidentally, I used to volunteer as a student attorney for an organization that help women who were domestic violence victims (a thoroughly thankless job and I salute the ones who do it everyday).

I'd see women who come in, scared for their lives. They'd have fresh stitches on their heads and faces, black eyes, broken bones and crying babies and they'd come and see me and get a temporary order of protection (a restraining order). However, a few weeks later, when they were supposed to show up to court for a permanent order of protection, we'd get word that they're now back with the boyfriend or the husband who beat them up.

It happens all the time. Doesn't mean that the incident doesn't happen, but a lot of battered spouses and partners return to the abusive partner all the time. And it's maddening and I hate it.

I know I don't have the right disposition to stay at that job. Everything I hear on that job infuriates me and I couldn't stand to see the abuse victims go back. Good thing it was only for a semester. I swear, if I stayed on it, I probably would've tracked down one of those shiatbag abusers and cut their brakes or something.
 
2013-12-10 09:14:28 AM
She could potentially be following the sad pattern of many abused women.

But in this weird world of ours she could be looking to get noticed and put on a reality show or something.
 
2013-12-10 09:22:45 AM

I_C_Weener: They are going to convict him of something


they probably should have done that earlier.
 
2013-12-10 09:22:58 AM
She hooked up with George Zimmerman... I don't think that good judgement is one of her strengths.
 
2013-12-10 09:25:00 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: She hooked up with George Zimmerman... I don't think that good judgement is one of her strengths.


Seriously.  Despite potential red flags, the guy's got more baggage than a Carnival Cruise.
 
2013-12-10 09:54:48 AM

Diogenes: Eddie Adams from Torrance: She hooked up with George Zimmerman... I don't think that good judgement is one of her strengths.

Seriously.  Despite potential red flags, the guy's got more baggage than a Carnival Cruise.


He should do himself and the media a favor and just fade into the background.
 
2013-12-10 09:59:57 AM
At this point, she can't just say "I want to drop the charges". It's up to the actual district attorney.
 
2013-12-10 10:00:08 AM
A friend personally witnessed my bro in law beating the shiat out of my sis in law. What does my sis in law do when my sis in law testifies? Cites our friend's long history of drug abuse, psychiatric prescriptions, and bisexuality, and said she was high and a liar who only said he hit her because she really wants to sleep with her.

No, really. That happened.
 
2013-12-10 10:00:22 AM
Dutifully drinking.

Much like the murder case against him, I suspect this will go nowhere in the end. He's a bumbling, brown version of Bill Clinton, without the charm or intelligence...nothing will stick.
 
2013-12-10 10:00:57 AM

Diogenes: Eddie Adams from Torrance: She hooked up with George Zimmerman... I don't think that good judgement is one of her strengths.

Seriously.  Despite potential red flags, the guy's got more baggage than a Carnival Cruise.


He needs to take a lesson from Delta and lose the baggage
 
2013-12-10 10:01:05 AM
FYI: Asking if you want to press charges is little more than a nicety. It is the prosecutor's decision whether or not to prosecute.
 
2013-12-10 10:01:18 AM
There wouldn't be no trouble except for that king-shiat woman!  All George wanted was something to eat.  But the she kept pushing.  She drew first blood, not George.
 
2013-12-10 10:01:20 AM

NeverDrunk23: Diogenes: Eddie Adams from Torrance: She hooked up with George Zimmerman... I don't think that good judgement is one of her strengths.

Seriously.  Despite potential red flags, the guy's got more baggage than a Carnival Cruise.

He should do himself and the media a favor and just fade into the background.


Considering how anger and violence prone he seems to be, I don't think that will happen. He shoots a guy dead, and now has a couple major domestic violence blowups to his name. And it only seems to be on a downward trend. I really don't think this ends well.
 
2013-12-10 10:01:37 AM

keithgabryelski: I_C_Weener: They are going to convict him of something

they probably should have done that earlier.


They couldn't, so let's keep this thread at the topic at hand instead of beating a dead farking horse. Last nights thread went off the rails so bad you almost forgot what the fark it was originally about.
 
2013-12-10 10:04:03 AM
Wait... didn't this happen last night?  There was too much drinking to remember clearly.  Wait...  wasn't I drinking because this happened last night?
 
2013-12-10 10:06:45 AM
Damn I bet $50 he would be killed by some ghetto rat by now this year, come on black panthers wtf?

/death pool isn't looking good for me this year, Amanda Bynes still alive, LiLo and Vanilla Ice
 
2013-12-10 10:06:49 AM

NeverDrunk23: He should do himself and the media a favor and just fade into the background.


That would require him to stop being George Zimmerman.

RexTalionis: Doesn't mean that the incident doesn't happen, but a lot of battered spouses and partners return to the abusive partner all the time. And it's maddening and I hate it.


The violence is only a sliver of the abuse.  We're typically talking about people who weren't raised around many role models, with few skills, so they're powerless.  When they're beaten to within an inch of their lives the first thing on their minds is to get away, but freedom to them is downright terrifying.  They've been beaten down verbally to believe that no one will love them, no one will hire them, it's their fault, they don't deserve better and they can't do anything on their own.  They don't intend to get permanent protection in the first place.
 
2013-12-10 10:06:56 AM
I am not surprised by this.
I'm not sure what the law says in FL, but here in NJ, if the cops are called for domestic violence, and someone is arrested, it falls to the hands of the state.  Short of the victim pleading on the defendant's behalf, there is nothing to stop the state from pressing charges.  And even then, they may decide to do so.
 
2013-12-10 10:07:38 AM

WTFDYW: keithgabryelski: I_C_Weener: They are going to convict him of something

they probably should have done that earlier.

They couldn't, so let's keep this thread at the topic at hand instead of beating a dead farking horse. Last nights thread went off the rails so bad you almost forgot what the fark it was originally about.


Right. This thread is about George Zimmerman. And if it weren't for that other, unmentionable thingy, nobody would know who the fark he is and nobody would give a shiat about this domestic dispute case. So don't bring it up.

How about a picture of the girlfriend? I'm curious to see if she looks like she could be my sister.
 
2013-12-10 10:08:25 AM
But we don't like him!  We have to convict him of something!

/he's guilty
//of sticking it in the crazy
 
2013-12-10 10:09:25 AM

RexTalionis: Incidentally, I used to volunteer as a student attorney for an organization that help women who were domestic violence victims (a thoroughly thankless job and I salute the ones who do it everyday).

I'd see women who come in, scared for their lives. They'd have fresh stitches on their heads and faces, black eyes, broken bones and crying babies and they'd come and see me and get a temporary order of protection (a restraining order). However, a few weeks later, when they were supposed to show up to court for a permanent order of protection, we'd get word that they're now back with the boyfriend or the husband who beat them up.

It happens all the time. Doesn't mean that the incident doesn't happen, but a lot of battered spouses and partners return to the abusive partner all the time. And it's maddening and I hate it.

I know I don't have the right disposition to stay at that job. Everything I hear on that job infuriates me and I couldn't stand to see the abuse victims go back. Good thing it was only for a semester. I swear, if I stayed on it, I probably would've tracked down one of those shiatbag abusers and cut their brakes or something.


I did counseling in the Army back in the '80's.  Out of the roughly 150 cases I took in Germany over a 3 year period, I had exactly one person press charges and see them through.  Usually we'd just ship the accused person off to drug and alcohol treatment (alcohol was ALWAYS a factor), they'd get a 6 week vacation and come back "cured".  I really hated that system.  People transfer so often in the military, we never had to worry about abusers because within a few months they'd always get orders to move somewhere else and they'd become another commander's problem.  I'd like to think with computer records today that system has been upgraded and fixed - but I seriously doubt it.
 
2013-12-10 10:11:50 AM

Cletus C.: WTFDYW: keithgabryelski: I_C_Weener: They are going to convict him of something

they probably should have done that earlier.

They couldn't, so let's keep this thread at the topic at hand instead of beating a dead farking horse. Last nights thread went off the rails so bad you almost forgot what the fark it was originally about.

Right. This thread is about George Zimmerman. And if it weren't for that other, unmentionable thingy, nobody would know who the fark he is and nobody would give a shiat about this domestic dispute case. So don't bring it up.

How about a picture of the girlfriend? I'm curious to see if she looks like she could be my sister.


You let your sister date George Zimmerman?
 
2013-12-10 10:12:19 AM

generallyso: FYI: Asking if you want to press charges is little more than a nicety. It is the prosecutor's decision whether or not to prosecute.


Hard to successfully prosecute when the only two witnesses are opposed to you.

It's like trying to bring mugging charges against the Salvation Army.
 
2013-12-10 10:12:29 AM
No word from George Zimmer?
 
2013-12-10 10:13:16 AM
Oh, DA's are encouraged by misandrist hate groups to prosecute men at any chance, lest they label the DA a woman beater. My ex beat me with a boat oar, got arrested, and we split. I got the charges against me because at some point in the fray I pushed her away. I called the ADA about my charges against her (and managed to go straight to his phone without being intercepted by a secretary) and said they were dropped due to lack of evidence. There were Polaroids of the plate sized black bruise on my back and everything.

It was called the Violence Against Women act, nothing about battered husbands.
 
2013-12-10 10:13:55 AM

I_C_Weener: They are going to convict him of something


It's bound to happen if he keeps committing crimes.
 
2013-12-10 10:15:57 AM
oh man, I'm gonna need a new liver

/chugs
 
2013-12-10 10:17:07 AM
This isn't going to amount to anything. ZimZam isn't going to get burned at the stake any time soon, media.

Go find another witch, already.
 
2013-12-10 10:17:21 AM
I think having the media vilify me publicly with misinformation and outright lies, being the target of a politically motivated prosecution, and the resulting ruination of my career and financial security... I think all of that would have a substantial impact on my psychological well-being. Anger issues and PTSD would almost be expected.

Zimmerman is who he is today because society decided it was qualified to judge him in a manner that was neither scientific nor just. We are all to blame for the fallout.

Those of you who use his present life problems as a way of exacting vengeance for his previous acquittal should be ashamed.
 
2013-12-10 10:18:03 AM

durbnpoisn: I am not surprised by this.
I'm not sure what the law says in FL, but here in NJ, if the cops are called for domestic violence, and someone is arrested, it falls to the hands of the state.  Short of the victim pleading on the defendant's behalf, there is nothing to stop the state from pressing charges.  And even then, they may decide to do so.


It's my understanding that the vast majority of states are like that.  I'm having trouble coming up with a state that isn't like that, though admittedly I know nothing about domestic violence laws in, say, South Dakota.

Anyway, not sure what they're going to be able to do if they do prosecute here.  Much like his murder trial, this seems like a whole bunch of "we're pretty sure he did this bad thing but we can't find any evidence to support the criminal charge."  I'm not saying he did or didn't do some domestic violence bullcrap, I'm only saying that there seems to be nothing that supports his girlfriend's story and (important bit) disproves his.  I'd like to think that a court won't convict a guy on the basis of "his girlfriend said so."
 
2013-12-10 10:18:25 AM

durbnpoisn: I am not surprised by this.
I'm not sure what the law says in FL, but here in NJ, if the cops are called for domestic violence, and someone is arrested, it falls to the hands of the state.  Short of the victim pleading on the defendant's behalf, there is nothing to stop the state from pressing charges.  And even then, they may decide to do so.


Like you said it depend on the state but many times it is really hard to get a conviction without support of the victim.
 
2013-12-10 10:19:07 AM

RexTalionis: Even if the charges are dropped, he's got 2.5 million dollars in debt and he just hired another $450 an hour lawyer to take his DV case.

He's already pretty screwed.


Who the hell would loan an unemployed LARP cop 2.5 million?
 
2013-12-10 10:21:02 AM

Ned Stark: RexTalionis: Even if the charges are dropped, he's got 2.5 million dollars in debt and he just hired another $450 an hour lawyer to take his DV case.

He's already pretty screwed.

Who the hell would loan an unemployed LARP cop 2.5 million?


It's mostly his legal bills. His attorneys at the trial originally were going to represent him for free. But once they heard that he raised $400,000 dollars with his paypal donation site, they wanted to be paid back since Zimmerman was profiting off of it. Now, he owes 2.5 million to his lawyers.
 
2013-12-10 10:22:58 AM

Carth: durbnpoisn: I am not surprised by this.
I'm not sure what the law says in FL, but here in NJ, if the cops are called for domestic violence, and someone is arrested, it falls to the hands of the state.  Short of the victim pleading on the defendant's behalf, there is nothing to stop the state from pressing charges.  And even then, they may decide to do so.

Like you said it depend on the state but many times it is really hard to get a conviction without support of the victim.


He has threatened quite a few people with guns recently. Pick a victim, any victim. It doesn't all hinge on one woman's story.
 
2013-12-10 10:23:02 AM

I_C_Weener: They are going to convict him of something


Zimmerman and OJ, victims of the system.
 
2013-12-10 10:24:06 AM

RexTalionis: Ned Stark: RexTalionis: Even if the charges are dropped, he's got 2.5 million dollars in debt and he just hired another $450 an hour lawyer to take his DV case.

He's already pretty screwed.

Who the hell would loan an unemployed LARP cop 2.5 million?

It's mostly his legal bills. His attorneys at the trial originally were going to represent him for free. But once they heard that he raised $400,000 dollars with his paypal donation site, they wanted to be paid back since Zimmerman was profiting off of it. Now, he owes 2.5 million to his lawyers.


Wait, you can do something for free and then change your mind later and people will actually retroactively owe you money? WTH?
 
2013-12-10 10:24:47 AM

wildcardjack: It was called the Violence Against Women act, nothing about battered husbands.


So. Much. This.
 
2013-12-10 10:25:17 AM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: I think having the media vilify me publicly with misinformation and outright lies, being the target of a politically motivated prosecution, and the resulting ruination of my career and financial security... I think all of that would have a substantial impact on my psychological well-being. Anger issues and PTSD would almost be expected.

Zimmerman is who he is today because society decided it was qualified to judge him in a manner that was neither scientific nor just. We are all to blame for the fallout.

Those of you who use his present life problems as a way of exacting vengeance for his previous acquittal should be ashamed.


Before you start claiming this guy has PTSD, why don't you consider the more likely scenario that he is a piece of shiat, has always been a piece of shiat, and continues to be a piece of shiat. This looks more like a pattern of behavior rather than some kind of snap or change in direction. Multiple cases of assault, Multiple instances of brandishing firearms and making threats.

Don't hurt yourself trying to bend over backwards for the guy. He clearly isn't worthy of your efforts.
 
2013-12-10 10:26:32 AM

Carth: durbnpoisn: I am not surprised by this.
I'm not sure what the law says in FL, but here in NJ, if the cops are called for domestic violence, and someone is arrested, it falls to the hands of the state.  Short of the victim pleading on the defendant's behalf, there is nothing to stop the state from pressing charges.  And even then, they may decide to do so.

Like you said it depend on the state but many times it is really hard to get a conviction without support of the victim.


I suppose it depends on how far they want to take it.  Considering he probably can't afford a lawyer, at the very least, they could make his life even worse.
 
2013-12-10 10:28:27 AM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: I think having the media vilify me publicly with misinformation and outright lies, being the target of a politically motivated prosecution, and the resulting ruination of my career and financial security... I think all of that would have a substantial impact on my psychological well-being. Anger issues and PTSD would almost be expected.

Zimmerman is who he is today because society decided it was qualified to judge him in a manner that was neither scientific nor just. We are all to blame for the fallout.

Those of you who use his present life problems as a way of exacting vengeance for his previous acquittal should be ashamed.


Or it could just be what it seems like... a very consistant pattern of violent behavior that started way before the T Martin incident.
 
2013-12-10 10:28:58 AM

wildcardjack: Oh, DA's are encouraged by misandrist hate groups to prosecute men at any chance, lest they label the DA a woman beater. My ex beat me with a boat oar, got arrested, and we split. I got the charges against me because at some point in the fray I pushed her away. I called the ADA about my charges against her (and managed to go straight to his phone without being intercepted by a secretary) and said they were dropped due to lack of evidence. There were Polaroids of the plate sized black bruise on my back and everything.

It was called the Violence Against Women act, nothing about battered husbands.


A friend of mine's ex-wife got convicted for beating him up. I guess it helped that she decked him in front of the cops.
 
2013-12-10 10:41:00 AM
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2013-12-10 10:41:45 AM

generallyso: FYI: Asking if you want to press charges is little more than a nicety. It is the prosecutor's decision whether or not to prosecute.


Well, it's not as if the Florida DA doesn't know when not to go after a losing case involving Zimmerman...
 
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