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2013-12-10 08:19:46 AM
They are training to become Sardukar.  Luckily we may have some Freman in New Mexico and Nevada.
 
2013-12-10 08:25:05 AM
And once again we fall behind the Chinese in national defense.

/thanks 0bama
 
2013-12-10 09:10:28 AM
www.geekosystem.com

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.
 
2013-12-10 09:53:05 AM

Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.


Well, it would be nice to have 10% GDP growth for a few years.
 
2013-12-10 09:58:13 AM
Missile guidance that relies on human sight, infrared rays and lasers could be affected by smog in varing degrees


*ahem*
www.worldwide-military.com
 
2013-12-10 10:03:03 AM

DubtodaIll: Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.

Well, it would be nice to have 10% GDP growth for a few years.


I thought green energy /jobs was supposed to take care of that?
 
2013-12-10 10:03:54 AM
FTC: "It's not smog, it's freedom fog!"

heh
 
2013-12-10 10:05:20 AM

Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.


Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?
 
2013-12-10 10:11:03 AM

This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?


Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.
 
2013-12-10 10:14:45 AM

Gergesa: This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.


Which really is a shame as progressive conservatism is the best path for the U.S.  I really think it's our primary process that really has screwed up the path of the nation over the past 20 years.  Teddy was one of the best men to ever hold the office.  Super academic but was able to be gruff enough to get respect.
 
2013-12-10 10:18:04 AM

This text is now purple: Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.

Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?


Nixon was not the modern GoP
 
2013-12-10 10:19:07 AM

Gergesa: This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.


So you're really going to run with a True Scotsman argument?

How's that strawman coming along? Little late in the season, isn't it?
 
2013-12-10 10:24:48 AM

This text is now purple: Gergesa: This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.

So you're really going to run with a True Scotsman argument?

How's that strawman coming along? Little late in the season, isn't it?


Those terms have meanings. You cannot just pick a couple at random and accuse someone of using them without looking like a complete dumbass.
 
2013-12-10 10:26:21 AM

This text is now purple: Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.

Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?


No, that was Johnson.

Nixon was the asshole who vetoed the Clean Water Act.

You receive zero points.
 
2013-12-10 10:28:01 AM

Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.


Cannot be repeated often enough.
 
2013-12-10 10:28:41 AM

This text is now purple: Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.

Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?


I said right, not Republican.

Nixon was WAAAAAAY too liberal to even get the Democratic nom today.  Hell, probably Barry Goldwater also.

/And that is really sad.  Our nation is seriously farked up.
 
2013-12-10 10:29:09 AM

This text is now purple: Gergesa: This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.

So you're really going to run with a True Scotsman argument?

How's that strawman coming along? Little late in the season, isn't it?


It is unfortunate that you failed to correctly use those fallacy terms correctly.
 
2013-12-10 10:30:20 AM

Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.


Full of Chinese?
 
2013-12-10 10:30:50 AM

Gergesa: This text is now purple: Gergesa: This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.

So you're really going to run with a True Scotsman argument?

How's that strawman coming along? Little late in the season, isn't it?

It is unfortunate that you failed to correctly use those fallacy terms correctly.


damn, cut off that last correctly.

Still somewhat early.
 
2013-12-10 10:45:19 AM

Gergesa: Gergesa: This text is now purple: Gergesa: This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.

So you're really going to run with a True Scotsman argument?

How's that strawman coming along? Little late in the season, isn't it?

It is unfortunate that you failed to correctly use those fallacy terms correctly.

damn, cut off that last correctly.

Still somewhat early.


Better be careful, posting too early can lead down that slippery slope to post hoc ergo propter hoc ad hominems that would just end up being a tu quoque red herring.
 
2013-12-10 10:46:47 AM
If they keep burning that high sulphur coal, perhaps they can get a good batch of acid fog brewed.

Nothing like a fog that will eat the clothes off you!
 
2013-12-10 10:50:47 AM
"But good news! Chinese people are much safer from capitalist pig-dog attacks, thanks to smog."

Um, Gawkermitter may not be aware, China is no longer "communist", at least economically. They're quite capitalist. A Chinese employee of ours is fundraising for her hospital care, which wouldn't happen in a communist (or most socialized) nation.

China is a political dictatorship by the entity known as the 'Communist Party', but that has fark-all to do with actual Communism anymore.
 
2013-12-10 10:51:03 AM

Koodz: This text is now purple: Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.

Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

No, that was Johnson.

Nixon was the asshole who vetoed the Clean Water Act.

You receive zero points.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_%28United_States%29#Clean _A ir_Act_of_1970

Nixon started widespread federal enforcement. The 1955, 1963, and 1967 versions were primarily research-based, although the 1967 version started some federal interstate controls.

Eisenhower actually got the thing started, and helped bail out the hole FDR had dug.
 
2013-12-10 10:52:41 AM
At least I finally understand Conan Doyle's references to the "yellow fog" of London.
 
2013-12-10 10:52:54 AM

Egoy3k: This text is now purple: Gergesa: This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.

So you're really going to run with a True Scotsman argument?

How's that strawman coming along? Little late in the season, isn't it?

Those terms have meanings. You cannot just pick a couple at random and accuse someone of using them without looking like a complete dumbass.


Yes, I realize. You can make both arguments at the same time.

Gergesa is both arguing that Nixon's not actually a republican (True Scotsman) because he's not the mythological pro-pollution demon he thinks real republicans are (strawman). He's neither shown that Nixon wasn't a republican, not that republicans are what he says they are.
 
2013-12-10 10:53:24 AM

Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.


Which is ironic because that's what the cities DO look like when the left does have its way.
 
2013-12-10 10:57:11 AM

Riche: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

I said right, not Republican.


You're arguing Truman was rightist and Nixon wasn't? He certainly was more so than Kennedy/Johnson.
 
2013-12-10 10:59:44 AM

This text is now purple: Koodz: This text is now purple: Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.

Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

No, that was Johnson.

Nixon was the asshole who vetoed the Clean Water Act.

You receive zero points.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_%28United_States%29#Clean _A ir_Act_of_1970

Nixon started widespread federal enforcement. The 1955, 1963, and 1967 versions were primarily research-based, although the 1967 version started some federal interstate controls.

Eisenhower actually got the thing started, and helped bail out the hole FDR had dug.


You asked if he signed it, and the answer was no.

Please continue preaching the gospel of environmentalist Nixon though.
 
2013-12-10 11:01:46 AM

StopLurkListen: Um, Gawkermitter may not be aware, China is no longer "communist", at least economically. They're quite capitalist.


Who owns the means of production -- the state or private individuals? China is a (corrupt, it's China) market socialism.
 
2013-12-10 11:03:21 AM

Koodz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_%28United_States%29#Clean _A ir_Act_of_1970

Nixon started widespread federal enforcement. The 1955, 1963, and 1967 versions were primarily research-based, although the 1967 version started some federal interstate controls.

Eisenhower actually got the thing started, and helped bail out the hole FDR had dug.

You asked if he signed it, and the answer was no.

Please continue preaching the gospel of environmentalist Nixon though.


http://www.epa.gov/air/caa/40th.html

Read the second sentence back to me.
 
2013-12-10 11:05:50 AM

This text is now purple: Gergesa is both arguing that Nixon's not actually a republican


False, I never argued that.  I said that the right's current base wouldn't consider him as a republican.  Bod Dole and others have commented on this before.

This text is now purple: he's not the mythological pro-pollution demon he thinks real republicans are (strawman)


I didn't argue this either.
 
2013-12-10 11:08:07 AM

This text is now purple: Egoy3k: This text is now purple: Gergesa: This text is now purple: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon, Reagan, Teddy and so on would be considered RINOs or radical socialists by the right's base today.

So you're really going to run with a True Scotsman argument?

How's that strawman coming along? Little late in the season, isn't it?

Those terms have meanings. You cannot just pick a couple at random and accuse someone of using them without looking like a complete dumbass.

Yes, I realize. You can make both arguments at the same time.

Gergesa is both arguing that Nixon's not actually a republican (True Scotsman) because he's not the mythological pro-pollution demon he thinks real republicans are (strawman). He's neither shown that Nixon wasn't a republican, not that republicans are what he says they are.


No he is arguing that current republicans are not the same as past republicans. This is not a no true scotsman argument.

Also deregulation has directly led to a pretty recent major ecological disaster (you may have hear about it) and current republicans seem to want less regulation and to effectively neuter the agencies that are directly tasked with enforcing the existing regulations thus it's not a strawman so much as it is a direct observation of current realities.
 
2013-12-10 11:11:21 AM

This text is now purple: StopLurkListen: Um, Gawkermitter may not be aware, China is no longer "communist", at least economically. They're quite capitalist.

Who owns the means of production -- the state or private individuals? China is a (corrupt, it's China) market socialism.


My original quote: "A Chinese employee of ours". As in our corporation. Headquartered in the U.S. Sure, there are some state-owned entities in China -- but that's not unique to socialist or communist nations.

The appearance of state-owned entities more accurately indicates a nation with a current-account surplus. All that cash piling up needs to be put to some use ... (Usually an inefficient and corrupting use, granted)
 
2013-12-10 11:17:38 AM

Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.


This is why we can't have conversations in America anymore. Enjoy.
 
2013-12-10 11:25:03 AM

This text is now purple: Koodz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_%28United_States%29#Clean _A ir_Act_of_1970

Nixon started widespread federal enforcement. The 1955, 1963, and 1967 versions were primarily research-based, although the 1967 version started some federal interstate controls.

Eisenhower actually got the thing started, and helped bail out the hole FDR had dug.

You asked if he signed it, and the answer was no.

Please continue preaching the gospel of environmentalist Nixon though.

http://www.epa.gov/air/caa/40th.html

Read the second sentence back to me.


Amendments?

No, wait, that was the first sentence.
 
2013-12-10 11:28:44 AM

Egoy3k: No he is arguing that current republicans are not the same as past republicans. This is not a no true scotsman argument.


We were really arguing about Riche's comment that if the right had its way, every city would look like China. It was then that I pointed out that when the right actually had the chance, they did exactly the opposite. Because the US actually looked something like that once upon a time, and that time was 1933-1948, right at the heart of 5 consecutive left democratic terms. So if we're arguing left and right, it's in the context of FDR politics, in which Nixon was clearly to the right.

Also deregulation has directly led to a pretty recent major ecological disaster (you may have hear about it) and current republicans seem to want less regulation and to effectively neuter the agencies that are directly tasked with enforcing the existing regulations thus it's not a strawman so much as it is a direct observation of current realities.

Which disaster did deregulation cause? And please show your work that it was actually deregulated, a la airlines.
 
2013-12-10 11:45:13 AM

This text is now purple: Egoy3k: No he is arguing that current republicans are not the same as past republicans. This is not a no true scotsman argument.

We were really arguing about Riche's comment that if the right had its way, every city would look like China. It was then that I pointed out that when the right actually had the chance, they did exactly the opposite. Because the US actually looked something like that once upon a time, and that time was 1933-1948, right at the heart of 5 consecutive left democratic terms. So if we're arguing left and right, it's in the context of FDR politics, in which Nixon was clearly to the right.

Also deregulation has directly led to a pretty recent major ecological disaster (you may have hear about it) and current republicans seem to want less regulation and to effectively neuter the agencies that are directly tasked with enforcing the existing regulations thus it's not a strawman so much as it is a direct observation of current realities.

Which disaster did deregulation cause? And please show your work that it was actually deregulated, a la airlines.


Well, there was that fertilizer explosion in Texas. Pretty sure that enforcing regulations is part of having them (at least enforcement is assumed when I talk about regulations). With proper enforcement, there would not have been so much explosive sitting around the plant, or at least it would have been known to be there. Not an "ecological" disaster though.

He might also mean Deepwater Horizon. Apparently another case of lack of enforcement.
 
2013-12-10 11:48:28 AM

This text is now purple: Riche: Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

I said right, not Republican.

You're arguing Truman was rightist and Nixon wasn't? He certainly was more so than Kennedy/Johnson.


I'm claiming that America has shifted so far right over the decades that the "conservatives" of yesteryear would (in many, not all aspects-- this is a generalization with several exceptions) be called super "Libby Libby Commie" today.


Also, Truman/FDR were obviously a special case. Before their administrations, there simply hadn't been enough concentrated industry anywhere in the world to generate the level of pollution for people to realize it could be a long term serious problem.  Hell, FDR even bragged he would turn the skies of America "Black with progress."  He obviously didn't say that because he was OK with children dying of asthma attacks brought about by toxic smog (unlike many in today's right.)  He said that because they just didn't know-- they had no way of knowing.
 
2013-12-10 11:54:46 AM

This text is now purple: We were really arguing about Riche's comment that if the right had its way, every city would look like China. It was then that I pointed out that when the right actually had the chance, they did exactly the opposite. Because the US actually looked something like that once upon a time, and that time was 1933-1948, right at the heart of 5 consecutive left democratic terms. So if we're arguing left and right, it's in the context of FDR politics, in which Nixon was clearly to the right.


Yeah, that sums it up better than I did. Left/Right is a matter of context over time, and we are (sadly) drifting ever right as time goes on.

I probably should have specified that I meant the right of todaywould be fine with seeing your children sicken and die for the sake of their bottom line, just like today's government/industry in China.
 
2013-12-10 12:03:25 PM

kitsuneymg: Also deregulation has directly led to a pretty recent major ecological disaster (you may have hear about it) and current republicans seem to want less regulation and to effectively neuter the agencies that are directly tasked with enforcing the existing regulations thus it's not a strawman so much as it is a direct observation of current realities.

Which disaster did deregulation cause? And please show your work that it was actually deregulated, a la airlines.

Well, there was that fertilizer explosion in Texas. Pretty sure that enforcing regulations is part of having them (at least enforcement is assumed when I talk about regulations). With proper enforcement, there would not have been so much explosive sitting around the plant, or at least it would have been known to be there. Not an "ecological" disaster though.

He might also mean Deepwater Horizon. Apparently another case of lack of enforcement.


But not deregulation. Even command economies have catastrophes driven by simply bribing the relevant oversight people.
 
2013-12-10 12:04:42 PM

This text is now purple: kitsuneymg: Also deregulation has directly led to a pretty recent major ecological disaster (you may have hear about it) and current republicans seem to want less regulation and to effectively neuter the agencies that are directly tasked with enforcing the existing regulations thus it's not a strawman so much as it is a direct observation of current realities.

Which disaster did deregulation cause? And please show your work that it was actually deregulated, a la airlines.

Well, there was that fertilizer explosion in Texas. Pretty sure that enforcing regulations is part of having them (at least enforcement is assumed when I talk about regulations). With proper enforcement, there would not have been so much explosive sitting around the plant, or at least it would have been known to be there. Not an "ecological" disaster though.

He might also mean Deepwater Horizon. Apparently another case of lack of enforcement.

But not deregulation. Even command economies have catastrophes driven by simply bribing the relevant oversight people.


No you idiot! If we outlaw disasters then they won't ever happen!
 
2013-12-10 12:15:02 PM
Who would need to attack them? Just wait for them to choke to death on the smog. Then just walk in and clean up the bodies.
 
2013-12-10 01:35:46 PM

sjmcc13: This text is now purple: Riche: [www.geekosystem.com image 550x341]

Remember, kids:  EVERY major American city would be just like this if the right had its way.

Really? Wasn't it Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act? Didn't peak smog occur under Truman?

Nixon was not the modern GoP


Hell, Goldwater wasn't the modern GOP!
 
2013-12-10 01:49:15 PM

This text is now purple: Koodz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_%28United_States%29#Clean _A ir_Act_of_1970

Nixon started widespread federal enforcement. The 1955, 1963, and 1967 versions were primarily research-based, although the 1967 version started some federal interstate controls.

Eisenhower actually got the thing started, and helped bail out the hole FDR had dug.

You asked if he signed it, and the answer was no.

Please continue preaching the gospel of environmentalist Nixon though.

http://www.epa.gov/air/caa/40th.html

Read the second sentence back to me.


replygif.net
 
2013-12-10 02:20:29 PM
Wasn't there a Farker a few months ago who was adamantly saying that smog in China is no worse than smog in the States?

Ya no.
 
2013-12-10 03:02:04 PM

Lunchlady: Wasn't there a Farker a few months ago who was adamantly saying that smog in China is no worse than smog in the States?

Ya no.


I remember that thread. It was discussed that while smog in 1970s LA had a taste, unlike China, it did not have a texture.
 
2013-12-10 03:06:28 PM

Riche: This text is now purple: We were really arguing about Riche's comment that if the right had its way, every city would look like China. It was then that I pointed out that when the right actually had the chance, they did exactly the opposite. Because the US actually looked something like that once upon a time, and that time was 1933-1948, right at the heart of 5 consecutive left democratic terms. So if we're arguing left and right, it's in the context of FDR politics, in which Nixon was clearly to the right.

Yeah, that sums it up better than I did. Left/Right is a matter of context over time, and we are (sadly) drifting ever right as time goes on.

I probably should have specified that I meant the right of todaywould be fine with seeing your children sicken and die for the sake of their bottom line, just like today's government/industry in China.


Would it matter? The US doesn't do enough heavy industrial manufacturing anymore to cause really heavy pollution.

Every industrial nation goes through this. England did in the 1910s, the US did in the 1930s-40s, Japan and (West) Germany in the late 60s-early 70s. They either clean it, offshore it, or both. Eventually, you get rich enough to start caring about the smog.

You're probably worse off in command economies like 1970s-80s Russia and (East) Germany, or the face-conscious market socialism of modern China, where the government doesn't give a shiat about the pollution because quotas and the people know not to complain because there's always room in the gulag. There no one's ever rich enough to care about the smog.
 
2013-12-10 03:22:24 PM

This text is now purple: Lunchlady: Wasn't there a Farker a few months ago who was adamantly saying that smog in China is no worse than smog in the States?

Ya no.

I remember that thread. It was discussed that while smog in 1970s LA had a taste, unlike China, it did not have a texture.


He wasn't even saying it was worse in the 70's. He was saying it is equally as bad now. And as someone who has spent significant time in both China and LA (where I live) I can state with authority that is laughable.
 
2013-12-10 04:55:31 PM

kitsuneymg: This text is now purple: Egoy3k: No he is arguing that current republicans are not the same as past republicans. This is not a no true scotsman argument.

We were really arguing about Riche's comment that if the right had its way, every city would look like China. It was then that I pointed out that when the right actually had the chance, they did exactly the opposite. Because the US actually looked something like that once upon a time, and that time was 1933-1948, right at the heart of 5 consecutive left democratic terms. So if we're arguing left and right, it's in the context of FDR politics, in which Nixon was clearly to the right.

Also deregulation has directly led to a pretty recent major ecological disaster (you may have hear about it) and current republicans seem to want less regulation and to effectively neuter the agencies that are directly tasked with enforcing the existing regulations thus it's not a strawman so much as it is a direct observation of current realities.

Which disaster did deregulation cause? And please show your work that it was actually deregulated, a la airlines.

Well, there was that fertilizer explosion in Texas. Pretty sure that enforcing regulations is part of having them (at least enforcement is assumed when I talk about regulations). With proper enforcement, there would not have been so much explosive sitting around the plant, or at least it would have been known to be there. Not an "ecological" disaster though.

He might also mean Deepwater Horizon. Apparently another case of lack of enforcement.


The lack of enforcement in those two cases stems directly from not enough funding being spent on enforcement.
 
2013-12-10 06:25:28 PM

This text is now purple: Riche: This text is now purple: We were really arguing about Riche's comment that if the right had its way, every city would look like China. It was then that I pointed out that when the right actually had the chance, they did exactly the opposite. Because the US actually looked something like that once upon a time, and that time was 1933-1948, right at the heart of 5 consecutive left democratic terms. So if we're arguing left and right, it's in the context of FDR politics, in which Nixon was clearly to the right.

Yeah, that sums it up better than I did. Left/Right is a matter of context over time, and we are (sadly) drifting ever right as time goes on.

I probably should have specified that I meant the right of todaywould be fine with seeing your children sicken and die for the sake of their bottom line, just like today's government/industry in China.

Would it matter? The US doesn't do enough heavy industrial manufacturing anymore to cause really heavy pollution.

Every industrial nation goes through this. England did in the 1910s, the US did in the 1930s-40s, Japan and (West) Germany in the late 60s-early 70s. They either clean it, offshore it, or both. Eventually, you get rich enough to start caring about the smog.

You're probably worse off in command economies like 1970s-80s Russia and (East) Germany, or the face-conscious market socialism of modern China, where the government doesn't give a shiat about the pollution because quotas and the people know not to complain because there's always room in the gulag. There no one's ever rich enough to care about the smog.


Wait, so the US doesn't do enough manufacturing anymore?  I'm going to ignore your qualifiers "heavy industrial" because they are meaningless and indefinite.  Who is the second largest manufacturer in the world?  And by what slim margin?

Go ahead, I'm waiting.
 
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