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(CNN)   Not exactly a news flash: L.A. county sheriff's fostered a culture in which deputies were permitted to beat and humiliate inmates and cover up misconduct. Must be a misprint: a whole bunch of them are actually being indicted for it by the feds   (cnn.com) divider line 117
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2013-12-09 06:43:12 PM  
Being a cop in LA is tough. That much is for certain. This place isn't Mayberry that's for sure.

With that being said...I didn't read the article.
 
2013-12-09 07:00:55 PM  
Two of those deputies paid a visit to an FBI agent's house threatening her with arrest?  That's pretty ballsy stuff.
 
2013-12-09 07:08:24 PM  
This is hopefully just the first step of a long journey to curb police excesses in this country.
 
2013-12-09 07:09:48 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Two of those deputies paid a visit to an FBI agent's house threatening her with arrest?  That's pretty ballsy stuff.


Also, stupid.
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2013-12-09 07:29:00 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Two of those deputies paid a visit to an FBI agent's house threatening her with arrest?  That's pretty ballsy stuff.


As is falsifying paperwork to show you "released" the FBI informant while instead hiding him in the jail.  Or illegally detaining the Austrian Consul General and her husband when they tried to visit an Austrian citizen who was in jail.
 
2013-12-09 07:29:03 PM  
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2013-12-09 07:31:49 PM  
that's kinda one of the things feds do, subby. Feds even went to the south to take on police who looked the other way (or participated) in crimes against blacks. when the local government/authorities are farking you over, sometimes its nice to have the feds. But you wouldn't know that from listening to the republicans. For some reason I can't understand, they don't like that the federal government has the authority to go after cops that do things like cover-up lynchings.
 
2013-12-09 07:40:57 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Two of those deputies paid a visit to an FBI agent's house threatening her with arrest?  That's pretty ballsy stuff.


I guessed politician's kid when I saw the headline.
 
2013-12-09 07:42:37 PM  
So Christopher Dorner was right all along. RIP
 
2013-12-09 07:42:51 PM  
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With these neanderthals in the LAPD, obviously not./
 
2013-12-09 07:44:37 PM  
Meh, get back to me when they are tried, convicted, and sent to prison.
 
2013-12-09 07:46:14 PM  
"...some members of the Sheriff's Department considered themselves to be above the law."

No. Way. No way cops think like that. Unpossible. Invalid point.
 
2013-12-09 07:47:19 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: So Christopher Dorner was right all along. RIP


I've always suspected there was some truth to what Dorner was saying.
DNRTFA yet...
 
2013-12-09 07:48:08 PM  
No surprise here, when you get the Feds attention, it rarely ends well. And if you happen to fark with a federal agent, like say an FBI agent? You might as well just show up to turn yourself in and ask how big of a check you need to write.
 
2013-12-09 07:48:13 PM  

Jimmysolson: Sleeping Monkey: So Christopher Dorner was right all along. RIP

I've always suspected there was some truth to what Dorner was saying.
DNRTFA yet...


Same here
 
2013-12-09 07:50:30 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: So Christopher Dorner was right all along. RIP


Day_Old_Dutchie: [s21.postimg.org image 500x325]
With these neanderthals in the LAPD, obviously not./


I wonder how many people we'll see that don't know the difference between LAPD and the LA County Sheriff's Department.

I'm sure those are just the first two.
 
2013-12-09 07:51:13 PM  

WhyteRaven74: No surprise here, when you get the Feds attention, it rarely ends well. And if you happen to fark with a federal agent, like say an FBI agent? You might as well just show up to turn yourself in and ask how big of a check you need to write.


Yep. From prosecutors that I have heard comment on federal cases, the feds won't go for an indictment until they have everything wrapped up in a beautiful package with a bow on it. It's almost ALWAYS a done deal if they get an indictment.
 
2013-12-09 07:51:45 PM  
Real life cop drama stuff.  Crazy.

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2013-12-09 07:53:26 PM  
These people better bend over and lube up in a manly way because the feds are coming.
 
2013-12-09 07:54:15 PM  
This is Obama's Kent State
 
2013-12-09 07:55:10 PM  
STATES RIGHTS HURRR
 
2013-12-09 07:55:29 PM  
Kriedhund


I know, right? I simply can't believe anyone would besmirch the good reputation of the LAPD..........
 
2013-12-09 07:55:31 PM  

Krieghund: Sleeping Monkey: So Christopher Dorner was right all along. RIP

Day_Old_Dutchie: [s21.postimg.org image 500x325]
With these neanderthals in the LAPD, obviously not./

I wonder how many people we'll see that don't know the difference between LAPD and the LA County Sheriff's Department.

I'm sure those are just the first two.


I'd think it an important distinction... unfortunately the LAPD has assured there's no police force in this country with which they would not be a very strong competitor when it comes to police abuse and corruption. So yeah, this article isn't about them. But it very easily could be.
 
2013-12-09 07:56:03 PM  
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2013-12-09 07:58:28 PM  
The Sheriffs farked with an FBI witness, then tried to intimidate federal agents.

You don't really think this would be happening if they'd just abused regular old people, do you?
 
2013-12-09 07:59:57 PM  
Indicted is a good step. I'll reserve judgment until they're either convicted or exonerated.
 
2013-12-09 08:02:04 PM  
"Indicted" is one thing, but I'll consider it Justice only when they're spending their first night in the San Quentin showers getting passed around between the black muslims and the  Latin Kings.
 
2013-12-09 08:03:39 PM  

Jimmysolson: Sleeping Monkey: So Christopher Dorner was right all along. RIP

I've always suspected there was some truth to what Dorner was saying.
DNRTFA yet...


I knew there was some truth to his allegations when the LAPD went into assassination mode.  Shooting up a vehicle that isn't even remotely similar to the "suspect's" vehicle is stupid.  Doing it twice suggests a dangerous mindset that infects the LA police.
 
2013-12-09 08:04:26 PM  
Jeebus. Just RTFA. That is all kinds of farked up, that department is.
 
2013-12-09 08:05:28 PM  

bronyaur1: This is hopefully just the first step of a long journey to curb police excesses in this country.


I certainly hope "Sheriff Joe" in Arizona is paying close attention to this as it unfolds.
 
2013-12-09 08:05:32 PM  

kbronsito: that's kinda one of the things feds do, subby. Feds even went to the south to take on police who looked the other way (or participated) in crimes against blacks. when the local government/authorities are farking you over, sometimes its nice to have the feds. But you wouldn't know that from listening to the republicans. For some reason I can't understand, they don't like that the federal government has the authority to go after cops that do things like cover-up lynchings.


If you're saying Republicans as a group have an inherent bias toward tolerating police abuse and criminality, you're dead wrong. I'm sure you can find individual cases where people who choose to put 'R' after their name have done this, but I'll bet there's just as many individual cases involving people with 'D'. Los Angeles, for example, is heavily Democratic, but the local politicians haven't done squat about the Sheriff's Dept, it had to come from the feds. And those cases you cited of cops abusing Blacks in the South: they occurred in areas dominated by Democrat-controlled political machines. Regardless of who is in charge, there's a tendency to look the other way when they're 'your' cops and they're jacking up people who aren't that popular with the public anyway. That's not the same as an institutional bias inherent in the party those looking the other way are members of.
 
2013-12-09 08:10:46 PM  

jjorsett: kbronsito: that's kinda one of the things feds do, subby. Feds even went to the south to take on police who looked the other way (or participated) in crimes against blacks. when the local government/authorities are farking you over, sometimes its nice to have the feds. But you wouldn't know that from listening to the republicans. For some reason I can't understand, they don't like that the federal government has the authority to go after cops that do things like cover-up lynchings.

If you're saying Republicans as a group have an inherent bias toward tolerating police abuse and criminality, you're dead wrong. I'm sure you can find individual cases where people who choose to put 'R' after their name have done this, but I'll bet there's just as many individual cases involving people with 'D'. Los Angeles, for example, is heavily Democratic, but the local politicians haven't done squat about the Sheriff's Dept, it had to come from the feds. And those cases you cited of cops abusing Blacks in the South: they occurred in areas dominated by Democrat-controlled political machines. Regardless of who is in charge, there's a tendency to look the other way when they're 'your' cops and they're jacking up people who aren't that popular with the public anyway. That's not the same as an institutional bias inherent in the party those looking the other way are members of.


I'm pretty sure he was insinuating that Republicans don't care about police brutality against African Americans.
 
2013-12-09 08:12:46 PM  

ShawnDoc: BunkyBrewman: Two of those deputies paid a visit to an FBI agent's house threatening her with arrest?  That's pretty ballsy stuff.

As is falsifying paperwork to show you "released" the FBI informant while instead hiding him in the jail.  Or illegally detaining the Austrian Consul General and her husband when they tried to visit an Austrian citizen who was in jail.


This is the one that got me. How could they not realize they were going to be bringing FBI heat down by detaining a foreign official?

What the fark??
 
2013-12-09 08:13:16 PM  
Bear in mind this is the LASD, not LAPD.   The county sheriffs handle the prisoners and police the unincorporated/contracted areas within Los Angeles counties.  They cover 3,100 square miles and have 18,000 employees and 9100 sworn deputies policing 3.1m people, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Sheriff%27s_Department.  So this is the size of entire state and city law enforcement departments.

Finding 18 corrupt individuals in a department this size isn't that surprising.  That's not say it is desirable or condoning their idiotic behavior, but you look at a large enough sample size, your going to find corruption and misconduct.  Now the FBI in conducting their investigation appears to have chosen to do so covertly and they got caught.  Instead of raising hell publically, individuals decided to try and cover up the issue and make it go away in a clumsy and stupid matter that enhanced charges against them.  Remember, it usually isn't the underlying problem being investigated that results in the most severe charges, it is usually the cover up that nails you.
 
2013-12-09 08:15:06 PM  
These are eighteen isolated incidents which should in no way reflect on the integrity of the brave men and women of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
 
2013-12-09 08:15:10 PM  

max_pooper: jjorsett: kbronsito: that's kinda one of the things feds do, subby. Feds even went to the south to take on police who looked the other way (or participated) in crimes against blacks. when the local government/authorities are farking you over, sometimes its nice to have the feds. But you wouldn't know that from listening to the republicans. For some reason I can't understand, they don't like that the federal government has the authority to go after cops that do things like cover-up lynchings.

If you're saying Republicans as a group have an inherent bias toward tolerating police abuse and criminality, you're dead wrong. I'm sure you can find individual cases where people who choose to put 'R' after their name have done this, but I'll bet there's just as many individual cases involving people with 'D'. Los Angeles, for example, is heavily Democratic, but the local politicians haven't done squat about the Sheriff's Dept, it had to come from the feds. And those cases you cited of cops abusing Blacks in the South: they occurred in areas dominated by Democrat-controlled political machines. Regardless of who is in charge, there's a tendency to look the other way when they're 'your' cops and they're jacking up people who aren't that popular with the public anyway. That's not the same as an institutional bias inherent in the party those looking the other way are members of.

I'm pretty sure he was insinuating that Republicans don't care about police brutality against African Americans.


It's obvious what he was insinuating. He was just dead on balls wrong.

/I know this is fark
 
2013-12-09 08:18:43 PM  

WTFDYW: max_pooper: jjorsett: kbronsito: that's kinda one of the things feds do, subby. Feds even went to the south to take on police who looked the other way (or participated) in crimes against blacks. when the local government/authorities are farking you over, sometimes its nice to have the feds. But you wouldn't know that from listening to the republicans. For some reason I can't understand, they don't like that the federal government has the authority to go after cops that do things like cover-up lynchings.

If you're saying Republicans as a group have an inherent bias toward tolerating police abuse and criminality, you're dead wrong. I'm sure you can find individual cases where people who choose to put 'R' after their name have done this, but I'll bet there's just as many individual cases involving people with 'D'. Los Angeles, for example, is heavily Democratic, but the local politicians haven't done squat about the Sheriff's Dept, it had to come from the feds. And those cases you cited of cops abusing Blacks in the South: they occurred in areas dominated by Democrat-controlled political machines. Regardless of who is in charge, there's a tendency to look the other way when they're 'your' cops and they're jacking up people who aren't that popular with the public anyway. That's not the same as an institutional bias inherent in the party those looking the other way are members of.

I'm pretty sure he was insinuating that Republicans don't care about police brutality against African Americans.

It's obvious what he was insinuating. He was just dead on balls wrong.

/I know this is fark


Not all Republicans are racists arseholes but there are far too many in prominent positions to say that he is "dead on balls wrong".
 
2013-12-09 08:18:51 PM  
Now move your successful investigative asses on over to Maricopa County, FBI.
 
2013-12-09 08:19:38 PM  

TV's Vinnie: bronyaur1: This is hopefully just the first step of a long journey to curb police excesses in this country.

I certainly hope "Sheriff Joe" in Arizona is paying close attention to this as it unfolds.


Really? I haven't heard any accusations about these kinds of abuses taking place at Sheriff Joe's facility.
 
2013-12-09 08:20:19 PM  
assets

/Dammit.
//Is today typo malapropism day?
 
2013-12-09 08:21:49 PM  

Daedalus27: Bear in mind this is the LASD, not LAPD.   The county sheriffs handle the prisoners and police the unincorporated/contracted areas within Los Angeles counties.  They cover 3,100 square miles and have 18,000 employees and 9100 sworn deputies policing 3.1m people, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Sheriff%27s_Department.  So this is the size of entire state and city law enforcement departments.

Finding 18 corrupt individuals in a department this size isn't that surprising.  That's not say it is desirable or condoning their idiotic behavior, but you look at a large enough sample size, your going to find corruption and misconduct.  Now the FBI in conducting their investigation appears to have chosen to do so covertly and they got caught.  Instead of raising hell publically, individuals decided to try and cover up the issue and make it go away in a clumsy and stupid matter that enhanced charges against them.  Remember, it usually isn't the underlying problem being investigated that results in the most severe charges, it is usually the cover up that nails you.


The FBI wasn't investigating the entire department, so it's not 18 out of 9100 Deputies.  It's 18 out of the several hundred who work at a particular jail.
 
2013-12-09 08:23:50 PM  

jjorsett: kbronsito: that's kinda one of the things feds do, subby. Feds even went to the south to take on police who looked the other way (or participated) in crimes against blacks. when the local government/authorities are farking you over, sometimes its nice to have the feds. But you wouldn't know that from listening to the republicans. For some reason I can't understand, they don't like that the federal government has the authority to go after cops that do things like cover-up lynchings.

If you're saying Republicans as a group have an inherent bias toward tolerating police abuse and criminality, you're dead wrong. I'm sure you can find individual cas..es where people who choose to put 'R' after their name have done this, but I'll bet there's just as many individual cases involving people with 'D'. Los Angeles, for example, is heavily Democratic, but the local politicians haven't done squat about the Sheriff's Dept, it had to come from the feds. And those cases you cited of cops abusing Blacks in the South: they occurred in areas dominated by Democrat-controlled political machines. Regardless of who is in charge, there's a tendency to look the other way when they're 'your' cops and they're jacking up people who aren't that popular with the public anyway. That's not the same as an institutional bias inherent in the party those looking the other way are members of.

Only when minorities are on the receiving end. And those democrats in the south are today's republicans that switched parties as part of their hissyfit when the Democrats pushed the Civil Rights Act and LBJ signed it. So I grant you that its not a party thing... but it is an ideology thing and that ideology is today represented by the republican party. Their small government bent is partly fueled by the interest of local elites that would like to run their fiefdoms without the federal government intervention. Democrats actually like to see federal authorities curb abuses by local authorities. A lot of republicans probably do to... but the good feelings of having local corruption stamped out by federal authorities are overwhelmed by the derpy echoes of "big government bad, small goood" inside their heads.

 
2013-12-09 08:28:12 PM  

Emposter: The Sheriffs farked with an FBI witness, then tried to intimidate federal agents.

You don't really think this would be happening if they'd just abused regular old people, do you?


This.
Hey Feds great job sticking up for the peop...ooooooh. You are just retaliating because they farked with your agent.
 
2013-12-09 08:30:52 PM  

bronyaur1: This is hopefully just the first step of a long journey to curb police excesses in this country.


As long as we have the "War on Drugs" police in this country will continue to be run like paramilitary organizations with an "Us vs Them" mentality.
 
2013-12-09 08:32:10 PM  

RecliningLlama: Emposter: The Sheriffs farked with an FBI witness, then tried to intimidate federal agents.

You don't really think this would be happening if they'd just abused regular old people, do you?

This.
Hey Feds great job sticking up for the peop...ooooooh. You are just retaliating because they farked with your agent.


The intimidation of the federal agent was just icing on the cake. The Feds were already investigating them when they tried to bully their way out of it.

The FBI probably gets thousands of letters a day from prisoners claiming abuse, most of which are probably bullshiat. These guys farked up enough to have the FBI investigate them and bring charges. They're farked.
 
2013-12-09 08:32:46 PM  

Overfiend: TV's Vinnie: bronyaur1: This is hopefully just the first step of a long journey to curb police excesses in this country.

I certainly hope "Sheriff Joe" in Arizona is paying close attention to this as it unfolds.

Really? I haven't heard any accusations about these kinds of abuses taking place at Sheriff Joe's facility.


That farker is so dishonest that when he talks, the air comes out crooked.
 
2013-12-09 08:33:43 PM  

WhyteRaven74: No surprise here, when you get the Feds attention, it rarely ends well. And if you happen to fark with a federal agent, like say an FBI agent? You might as well just show up to turn yourself in and ask how big of a check you need to write.


I have a feeling it won't be a fine for threatening the agent, I am sure they will be living in a federal prison real soon.  It would've made a better story if they did try to arrest her......


I just suddenly pictured William Defoe standing at the scene yelling "It was a FIREFIGHT!!!"
 
2013-12-09 08:36:32 PM  
Pantamitr Zunggeemoge

That is all.
 
2013-12-09 08:39:58 PM  
Billy Khounthavong, Benny Khounthavong, and Johnny Khounthavong

I stand corrected, there are those too.
 
2013-12-09 08:42:02 PM  
Pig culture
 
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