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(Fox News)   Apparently worried that some other airline would claim the title of "Worst. Airline. Ever." United boots a nearly blind, 90-year old decorated Pearl Harbor veteran off the flight he was taking to a Pearl Harbor remembrance ceremony   (foxnews.com) divider line 28
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2013-12-09 01:16:30 PM
Again? Didn't United learn the lesson the last time they did this?
 
2013-12-09 01:17:28 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Again? Didn't United learn the lesson the last time they did this?


They had to boot 40 something people from the flight, and put him on the next one they could.

What should united do, de-plane everyone and have everyone lay out their sob story, and the captain chooses who is worthy of the flight?
 
2013-12-09 01:17:47 PM
To be fair, had they not taken on the fuel, the plane goes down and NOBODY makes it to Pearl Harbor.
 
2013-12-09 01:17:51 PM
 
2013-12-09 01:18:21 PM
This makes me want to smash a guitar
 
2013-12-09 01:18:35 PM
Repeat.
 
2013-12-09 01:19:07 PM
That's two dupes so far today.
 
2013-12-09 01:19:33 PM
But you keep buying their tickets. 
You must really love the way they treat our Vets.
 
2013-12-09 01:22:24 PM

Odoriferous Queef: That's two dupes so far today.


Two dupes, both about airlines.  Dupes in a dupe subject?  Can we get a trifecta?
 
2013-12-09 01:22:30 PM

Raging Whore Moans: This makes me want to smash a guitar


Or boot a dog.
 
2013-12-09 01:23:11 PM
I specifically avoid United Airlines no matter where I fly. Fark them and their terrible service. if might cost more for a Delta flight, but they kiss my arse the whole way.
 
2013-12-09 01:24:00 PM

vudukungfu: But you keep buying their tickets. 
You must really love the way they treat our Vets.


As someone who flies a bunch:

I'm all for our vets, and i would be hard pressed to think of circumstances where had I been on that plane and knew this was going on, I wouldn't have said, "hey, let him have my seat".

But also as someone who spends a fair amount of time in airports, when you really think about it, the logistics of flying and the operations around it are mind boggling. You simply can't have procedures for every time you want an exception to the rule.

How would you have proposed UA handled this? it wasn't like they singled him out because he was a vet. They simply had to boot a bunch of people because of weather, and his name came up in that list based off status\check in time\fare class\etc. They then threw him on the next plane they could.

If you want an airline system that this wouldn't happen on, your travel time is going to be longer and your ticket a hell of a lot more expensive.
 
2013-12-09 01:24:04 PM
Twice in one week. This guy can't catch a break!

/ The whiner caught another flight & made it to the ceremony, WTF is the fuss about
 
2013-12-09 01:24:05 PM
Maybe he shoulda remembered to take a less shiatty airline.
 
2013-12-09 01:24:53 PM
"I don't know if I did or not; somebody said I did," Shatz reportedly said. "I fired a 50 caliber machine gun and it's possible I did shoot at some planes, but whether I hit any or not -- that's another story.  I don't take any credit for any of that. Whether I did or not, probably only God knows."

Are we sure this guy even served?
 
2013-12-09 01:25:00 PM

LineNoise: What should united do...


Put real equipment on that route that can carry enough fuel for weather diversions instead of trying to stretch a 737 into an intercontinental aircraft.
 
2013-12-09 01:25:09 PM

LineNoise: vudukungfu: But you keep buying their tickets. 
You must really love the way they treat our Vets.

As someone who flies a bunch:

I'm all for our vets, and i would be hard pressed to think of circumstances where had I been on that plane and knew this was going on, I wouldn't have said, "hey, let him have my seat".

But also as someone who spends a fair amount of time in airports, when you really think about it, the logistics of flying and the operations around it are mind boggling. You simply can't have procedures for every time you want an exception to the rule.

How would you have proposed UA handled this? it wasn't like they singled him out because he was a vet. They simply had to boot a bunch of people because of weather, and his name came up in that list based off status\check in time\fare class\etc. They then threw him on the next plane they could.

If you want an airline system that this wouldn't happen on, your travel time is going to be longer and your ticket a hell of a lot more expensive.


You know who else dropped a bunch of weighty things from airplanes around Pearl Harbor?
 
2013-12-09 01:26:51 PM
uhhh, he was rebooked and made a different flight, what is the problem here? jeez - I am trying to look for property in Missoula Montana, and twice my flight was canceled and ticket refunded - I understand its the weather - it happens - he wasn't kicked off and left to sleep at the airport, he still made his flight.

/sure i feel bad for the guy, but can't blame the airlines either
 
2013-12-09 01:26:53 PM

captcaveman: I specifically avoid United Airlines no matter where I fly. Fark them and their terrible service. if might cost more for a Delta flight, but they kiss my arse the whole way.


This x 100 segments per year on American, and NEVER AGAIN on United after the shiatty treatment I received from them years ago in Denver.

Stories like this just reinforce my resolve to never fly them again, under any circumstances.

/rather drive to Denver than fly United
 
2013-12-09 01:27:25 PM
As much as I get mad traveling on United, they did boot 40 people for a reason.  How many people who were on that plane and think it was a terrible thing to do actually offered to get off and take the next flight so he could stay on?
 
2013-12-09 01:27:35 PM

Prof. Frink: You know who else dropped a bunch of weighty things from airplanes around Pearl Harbor?


Yeh. The Germans.
 
2013-12-09 01:27:50 PM

Click Click D'oh: LineNoise: What should united do...

Put real equipment on that route that can carry enough fuel for weather diversions instead of trying to stretch a 737 into an intercontinental aircraft.


Fine. Except that that reason they are using a 737 and not something bigger is because it doesn't have the passenger volume to justify something bigger. So now your ticket price goes up because the plane is flying half empty most of the time.
 
2013-12-09 01:28:39 PM

LineNoise: As someone who flies a bunch:


You have forfeited your 4th amendment rights.
You surrendered.
You dont' count.
 
2013-12-09 01:30:45 PM
They heard that the US Air and American merger went through and wasn't going to let that particular vortex of suck go without an answer.
 
2013-12-09 01:33:20 PM

LineNoise: Day_Old_Dutchie: Again? Didn't United learn the lesson the last time they did this?

They had to boot 40 something people from the flight, and put him on the next one they could.

What should united do, de-plane everyone and have everyone lay out their sob story, and the captain chooses who is worthy of the flight?


Per the "News as outraged observer" media these days - I think the answer to that question is "Yes."
 
2013-12-09 01:38:54 PM

Click Click D'oh: Put real equipment on that route that can carry enough fuel for weather diversions instead of trying to stretch a 737 into an intercontinental aircraft.


This.  Or if you're trying to stretch a 737's range/capability, only schedule the amount of passengers you can use in "inclement weather" in the first place and don't sell a single ticket more.

What this tells me is that United is pushing the safety buffer far enough that there will be a serious accident related to weight.

United breaks guitars and safety buffers.
 
2013-12-09 01:57:37 PM
Uisce Beatha:  Can we get a trifecta.

Are they still in regular fleet  service?

/I flew in a 787 Dreamliner in August...and lived!
//Window seat
 
2013-12-09 02:07:17 PM

captcaveman: I specifically avoid United Airlines no matter where I fly. Fark them and their terrible service. if might cost more for a Delta flight, but they kiss my arse the whole way.


actually...yes.  i was on leave from deployment and was in my acu's.  without asking (hell i was so used to blackhawks, freaking cold ass chinooks, and loud c130's) delta bumped me up to first class.  it was so strange. i would have been happy in coach, cause that felt like first class to me compared to what i was flying on.
 
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