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jbc [TotalFark]
2013-12-09 07:37:38 AM
Maybe the dog had Skittles.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-12-09 07:46:38 AM
They were coming right at him.
 
2013-12-09 01:16:52 PM
If he hadn't shot at them, we'd be reading about "Innocent man violently attacked by two children and their vicious dog".

Or, "Two kids catch loose dog, go home with mom."

But probably the first one.
 
2013-12-09 01:16:58 PM
What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.
 
2013-12-09 01:17:00 PM
Smartest one in the article? The dog.
 
2013-12-09 01:17:17 PM

More: Dumbass, convicted felon, car chase, rifles, dogs


O_o
 
2013-12-09 01:17:37 PM
Was it a pit bull?  If so, that's canine profiling right there..
 
2013-12-09 01:20:54 PM
It's like he won the penal code lottery.
 
2013-12-09 01:22:21 PM

walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.


Humm, the gun laws allowing prohibited possessors  to steal firearms?
 
2013-12-09 01:22:46 PM

walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.


What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?
 
2013-12-09 01:25:21 PM

schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?


TFA didn't say he st...ah, never mind.  Your point is still valid.
 
2013-12-09 01:25:34 PM
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2013-12-09 01:27:04 PM

schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?


Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.
 
2013-12-09 01:32:35 PM
"Officials arrested Gravatt after learning he had a previous felony conviction making it illegal for him to possess a firearm. The rifle was also discovered to be stolen."

Sooo.. if he had been in legal possession of the gun, they wouldn't have arrested him for shooting at two kids?
 
2013-12-09 01:33:32 PM
He just passed the final exam to become a police officer. Was it a golden retriever? You get extra credit for putting down that vicious breed.
 
2013-12-09 01:37:54 PM

Mikey1969: schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?

Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.


Gun laws work in several ways.  One, to remove certain types of weapons or ammo magazines from the market. Or two, to give the police something to charge dumbasses with when they get reckless with their firearm.  Kind of how all those traffic laws don't stop people from causing wrecks, but they do have a purpose.  But don't let that stop you from being a nut.

I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me, because that always makes us think we need less gun control....
 
2013-12-09 01:40:06 PM
If only there was a way to get more guns into the hands of more people this wouldn't have happened
 
2013-12-09 01:40:51 PM
What a dumbass might look like:

www.komu.com
 
2013-12-09 01:41:48 PM
If only those poor children had been armed - then they could have had a shoot out as God intended
 
2013-12-09 01:43:38 PM
What a tortoise?  ....Yep, he's a replicant.

//
 
2013-12-09 01:44:02 PM

kombat_unit: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

Humm, the gun laws allowing prohibited possessors  to steal firearms?


schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?


Dats da joke.jpg
 
2013-12-09 01:44:36 PM

Griftin Rubes: If only there was a way to get more guns into the hands of more people this wouldn't have happened


If dogs had guns people wouldn't shoot at them!  You can't deny the science!!!!
 
2013-12-09 01:45:28 PM

Daemonik: Mikey1969: schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?

Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.

Gun laws work in several ways.  One, to remove certain types of weapons or ammo magazines from the market. Or two, to give the police something to charge dumbasses with when they get reckless with their firearm.  Kind of how all those traffic laws don't stop people from causing wrecks, but they do have a purpose.  But don't let that stop you from being a nut.

I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me, because that always makes us think we need less gun control....


"Being a nut" how?

The story says nothing about the type of rifle or the size of the magazine, but it does mention that he was not legally allowed to posses a gun. Wonder why he had to steal one? Maybe it was his determination to possess one, no matter what the law said?
 
2013-12-09 01:45:32 PM
No one was injured during the incident.

Aw, damn! Better luck next time, crazy gun-wielding dude...
 
2013-12-09 01:46:40 PM
So if I understand correctly, this asshole fires at least one round from his rifle at the children and one of the mothers decides to confront him. Great idea there, moron.
 
2013-12-09 01:48:57 PM

FutureWars: So if I understand correctly, this asshole fires at least one round from his rifle at the children and one of the mothers decides to confront him. Great idea there, moron.


There was ground being stood all over the place.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-12-09 01:52:42 PM
He would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids and their dog.
 
2013-12-09 01:55:43 PM

Mikey1969: Daemonik: Mikey1969: schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?

Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.

Gun laws work in several ways.  One, to remove certain types of weapons or ammo magazines from the market. Or two, to give the police something to charge dumbasses with when they get reckless with their firearm.  Kind of how all those traffic laws don't stop people from causing wrecks, but they do have a purpose.  But don't let that stop you from being a nut.

I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me, because that always makes us think we need less gun control....

"Being a nut" how?

The story says nothing about the type of rifle or the size of the magazine, but it does mention that he was not legally allowed to posses a gun. Wonder why he had to steal one? Maybe it was his determination to possess one, no matter what the law said?


So why is murder illegal then, it doesn't stop anyone from doing it.  Why is anything illegal, why bother people will do it anyway.  Hey, hey, go touch kids, it's not like the law can stop you eh?  If the law can't stop you it might as well be legal right?

So I was wrong to peg you as a gun nutter.  You're just dumb in general.
 
2013-12-09 02:00:01 PM

Daemonik: Mikey1969: Daemonik: Mikey1969: schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?

Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.

Gun laws work in several ways.  One, to remove certain types of weapons or ammo magazines from the market. Or two, to give the police something to charge dumbasses with when they get reckless with their firearm.  Kind of how all those traffic laws don't stop people from causing wrecks, but they do have a purpose.  But don't let that stop you from being a nut.

I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me, because that always makes us think we need less gun control....

"Being a nut" how?

The story says nothing about the type of rifle or the size of the magazine, but it does mention that he was not legally allowed to posses a gun. Wonder why he had to steal one? Maybe it was his determination to possess one, no matter what the law said?

So why is murder illegal then, it doesn't stop anyone from doing it.  Why is anything illegal, why bother people will do it anyway.  Hey, hey, go touch kids, it's not like the law can stop you eh?  If the law can't stop you it might as well be legal right?

So I was wrong to peg you as a gun nutter.  You're just dumb in general.


The saddest part is he still brings the "laws don't stop people" argument out in these threads.

I would say he's a paid shill, but that would be an insult to paid shills.
 
2013-12-09 02:03:28 PM

Daemonik: Mikey1969: Daemonik: Mikey1969: schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?

Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.

Gun laws work in several ways.  One, to remove certain types of weapons or ammo magazines from the market. Or two, to give the police something to charge dumbasses with when they get reckless with their firearm.  Kind of how all those traffic laws don't stop people from causing wrecks, but they do have a purpose.  But don't let that stop you from being a nut.

I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me, because that always makes us think we need less gun control....

"Being a nut" how?

The story says nothing about the type of rifle or the size of the magazine, but it does mention that he was not legally allowed to posses a gun. Wonder why he had to steal one? Maybe it was his determination to possess one, no matter what the law said?

So why is murder illegal then, it doesn't stop anyone from doing it.  Why is anything illegal, why bother people will do it anyway.  Hey, hey, go touch kids, it's not like the law can stop you eh?  If the law can't stop you it might as well be legal right?

So I was wrong to peg you as a gun nutter.  You're just dumb in general.


Not really. It's not my fault that you can't follow a simple argument. You should take that one up with your parents, probably.
 
2013-12-09 02:08:43 PM
Woohoo! Not Florida!
 
2013-12-09 02:09:02 PM

Daemonik: "Officials arrested Gravatt after learning he had a previous felony conviction making it illegal for him to possess a firearm. The rifle was also discovered to be stolen."

Sooo.. if he had been in legal possession of the gun, they wouldn't have arrested him for shooting at two kids?


Depends on wether or not he hit one of the kids. A good center of mass hit gets him a marksmanship pin.
 
2013-12-09 02:15:32 PM

Daemonik: Mikey1969: schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?

Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.

Gun laws work in several ways.  One, to remove certain types of weapons or ammo magazines from the market. Or two, to give the police something to charge dumbasses with when they get reckless with their firearm.  Kind of how all those traffic laws don't stop people from causing wrecks, but they do have a purpose.  But don't let that stop you from being a nut.

I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me, because that always makes us think we need less gun control....


Well God knows this story of a guy who by law should not have had a gun proves how well MORE laws telling him he can't have a gun will work.
 
2013-12-09 02:22:47 PM

Mikey1969: The story says nothing about the type of rifle or the size of the magazine,


There's no doubt it was a Glock Automatic with a 500 round bullet sheath and a thing that goes up.

Deadliest weapon on the face of the earth and this guy would have never been able to have gotten his grubby criminal hands on it if we just had more laws.
 
2013-12-09 02:23:32 PM
I think gun owners should be required, by law, to properly secure their firearms when not in use.

If your gun gets stolen and used in a crime or a child accidentally shoots himself and an investigation reveals that it wasn't properly stored (gun safe, trigger lock, etc.), then you should be at least partially liable.

Make it a crime to be negligent.  Of course, this would probably require registration to be fully effective.

/Also, make it a crime to fail to report a stolen firearm (not sure if this is on the books already)
 
2013-12-09 02:28:55 PM
R.I.P. Old Yeller.
 
2013-12-09 02:30:08 PM

thefatbasturd: Daemonik: Mikey1969: schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?

Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.

Gun laws work in several ways.  One, to remove certain types of weapons or ammo magazines from the market. Or two, to give the police something to charge dumbasses with when they get reckless with their firearm.  Kind of how all those traffic laws don't stop people from causing wrecks, but they do have a purpose.  But don't let that stop you from being a nut.

I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me, because that always makes us think we need less gun control....

Well God knows this story of a guy who by law should not have had a gun proves how well MORE laws telling him he can't have a gun will work.


I'm all for most people having access to firearms, but when did the knee-jerk gun rights absolutists become so farking stupid?

/Laws don't prevent all crime, but they do allow you to punish criminals.
//Is your takeaway from this article really that this upstanding citizen shooting at children should have unlimited access to guns?
 
2013-12-09 02:33:40 PM
Was the dog a pit bull and the gun an assault rifle? If not then it's clearly not news.

I like pit bulls because they're not so totally physically farked up by 100 years of overbreeding. Of course they have been bred for aggression, but that can be managed by proper handling such as "Don't attack until you're told to."

Anyway.

There's simply no good justification for producing such things as teacup chihuahuas. Especially since the smaller and frailer a dog is the more likely it is to be angry and afraid by temperament.

And I have nothing against extended magazines, but it's silly to sell "assault rifles" with military styling and picatinny rails and so on that nevertheless chamber only .22 ammo. Who are you kidding? Your 5 pound "chihuahua" might be vicious but it's still only a 5 pound "chihuahua." No self-respecting zombie could keep from laughing at you. Is your plan to tickle him to death with lots of weak little bullets?
 
2013-12-09 02:36:10 PM

Daemonik: I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me

...

If I gave you a gun would you shoot me? I can even charge at you with a knife so it'd be self-defense.

Seasonal Affective Disorder sucks. And what sucks more is that I keep complaining about the weather but nobody fixes it.
 
2013-12-09 02:37:39 PM

born_yesterday: FutureWars: So if I understand correctly, this asshole fires at least one round from his rifle at the children and one of the mothers decides to confront him. Great idea there, moron.

There was ground being stood all over the place.


She would be justified in shooting him, IMHO.
 
2013-12-09 02:46:54 PM
innumerate:

If your gun gets stolen and used in a crime or a child accidentally shoots himself and an investigation reveals that it wasn't properly stored (gun safe, trigger lock, etc.), then you should be at least partially liable.

So when some fool invades your home at 3 A.M. you can invite him to share a cup of coffee with you while you try to recall the combination or find the key.

And when you're not home a burglar can steal your gun safe, trigger lock, etc. too. But that would be at least partially your fault for not having the house rigged to blow up when somebody tried to burglarize it, right? Oh, wait...

I'll grant you that you shouldn't leave a loaded gun in reach of a kid, but a lot of people own guns because they can't afford armed guards or security systems.

One answer is to make violent felonies punishable by death. Within the next 6 months, not 37 years later maybe.
 
2013-12-09 03:02:05 PM

The One True TheDavid: Was the dog a pit bull and the gun an assault rifle? If not then it's clearly not news.

I like pit bulls because they're not so totally physically farked up by 100 years of overbreeding. Of course they have been bred for aggression, but that can be managed by proper handling such as "Don't attack until you're told to."

Anyway.

There's simply no good justification for producing such things as teacup chihuahuas. Especially since the smaller and frailer a dog is the more likely it is to be angry and afraid by temperament.

And I have nothing against extended magazines, but it's silly to sell "assault rifles" with military styling and picatinny rails and so on that nevertheless chamber only .22 ammo. Who are you kidding? Your 5 pound "chihuahua" might be vicious but it's still only a 5 pound "chihuahua." No self-respecting zombie could keep from laughing at you. Is your plan to tickle him to death with lots of weak little bullets?


One of us needs to adjust our medication.
 
2013-12-09 03:10:16 PM
The One True TheDavid:


So when some fool invades your home at 3 A.M. you can invite him to share a cup of coffee with you while you try to recall the combination or find the key.


"When not in use".  I'd argue that keeping the gun at arms reach(nightstand drawer?) while you sleep would be a legitimate use for the gun.  Besides, no one is likely to get to it without waking you.

But let's say you leave it in the unlocked drawer when you go to the store and a burglar steals it.  I'd argue that it was negligence on your part.

And when you're not home a burglar can steal your gun safe, trigger lock, etc. too. But that would be at least partially your fault for not having the house rigged to blow up when somebody tried to burglarize it, right? Oh, wait...


What good is a gun safe or trigger lock without a key or combination?  Given that gun safes are heavy and/or difficult to force open, I highly doubt any burglar would bother with it.
 
2013-12-09 03:13:25 PM

Daemonik: So why is murder illegal then, it doesn't stop anyone from doing it.  Why is anything illegal, why bother people will do it anyway.


Applying a murder law to a murderer is different from applying gun control to a vast group of people, most of whom are not criminals.  Unless every gun owner is a criminal, in your view.
 
2013-12-09 03:21:15 PM

ko_kyi: Daemonik: So why is murder illegal then, it doesn't stop anyone from doing it.  Why is anything illegal, why bother people will do it anyway.

Applying a murder law to a murderer is different from applying gun control to a vast group of people, most of whom are not criminals.  Unless every gun owner is a criminal, in your view.


Are you arguing that murder laws don't apply to non-criminals?


"Why do I have to refrain from murdering my neighbor???  I ain't no criminal!"
 
2013-12-09 03:44:41 PM

innumerate: Are you arguing that murder laws don't apply to non-criminals?


"Why do I have to refrain from murdering my neighbor???  I ain't no criminal!"


Nice try.

I swear, you make one post that is not a meme or a troll and people think you have a "Troll Me" sign on your back.
 
2013-12-09 03:57:41 PM

Starshines: thefatbasturd: Daemonik: Mikey1969: schrepjm: walktoanarcade: What a lunatic.   Good to see the gun laws working too.

What gun laws would affect someone who stole a rifle?

Well, if you made it illegal for him to possess the stolen rifle, he wouldn't have....

Oh, never mind, I can't even guess what direction they'll come from on this one.

Gun laws work in several ways.  One, to remove certain types of weapons or ammo magazines from the market. Or two, to give the police something to charge dumbasses with when they get reckless with their firearm.  Kind of how all those traffic laws don't stop people from causing wrecks, but they do have a purpose.  But don't let that stop you from being a nut.

I'll be over here, waiting for the inevitable gun nut masturbatory response that I am lucky you aren't here with your gun or you'd shoot me, because that always makes us think we need less gun control....

Well God knows this story of a guy who by law should not have had a gun proves how well MORE laws telling him he can't have a gun will work.

I'm all for most people having access to firearms, but when did the knee-jerk gun rights absolutists become so farking stupid?

/Laws don't prevent all crime, but they do allow you to punish criminals.
//Is your takeaway from this article really that this upstanding citizen shooting at children should have unlimited access to guns?


No not at all. My take away is the laws in place are working to punish him for having a gun when he shouldn't as well as any new law would. And no new law would have helped any more to get/keep the already illegal gun out of his hands. Show me where that is wrong?
 
2013-12-09 04:00:08 PM
FYI, this guy has at least half a dozen convictions for variations on a theme of burglary, assault, and stealing, as well as a good ole statutory rape/statutory sodomy case, not to mention your run-of-the-mill driving while revoked and DWI cases.

In other words, he's now going to be a guest of the state for approximately the next 15-20 years, minimum, considering how many charges there are and how they can all be stacked consecutively.
 
2013-12-09 04:04:54 PM

ko_kyi: Daemonik: So why is murder illegal then, it doesn't stop anyone from doing it.  Why is anything illegal, why bother people will do it anyway.

Applying a murder law to a murderer is different from applying gun control to a vast group of people, most of whom are not criminals.  Unless every gun owner is a criminal, in your view.


ko_kyi: innumerate: Are you arguing that murder laws don't apply to non-criminals?


"Why do I have to refrain from murdering my neighbor???  I ain't no criminal!"

Nice try.

I swear, you make one post that is not a meme or a troll and people think you have a "Troll Me" sign on your back.


Laws, including those against murder, apply to all people.  If you don't violate the law, you're not a criminal.  The mere fact that your behavior is expected to be governed by a law does not make you a criminal.
 
2013-12-09 04:05:05 PM
phyrkrakr:

In other words, he's now going to be a guest of the state for approximately the next 15-20 years, minimum, considering how many charges there are and how they can all be stacked consecutively.

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