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(Opposing Views)   Attorney argues that his client should get leniency for murder because: a) he's reformed, b) he's sorry, or c) his victim was a low-class prostitute?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 131
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2013-12-08 09:07:56 PM
He should have just moved to Texas and then claimed the woman wouldn't sleep with him if he wanted to kill a hooker. Everyone knows that.
 
2013-12-08 10:14:39 PM
If he had killed his lawyer I might support the argument he had killed someone of little value.
 
2013-12-08 10:15:08 PM
Wow, USA USA USA USA.
 
2013-12-08 10:15:22 PM
No Cyril! When they're dead they're just hookers!
 
2013-12-08 10:16:29 PM
Lawyer better be careful with that argument. There is no lower class then lawyers and politicians.
 
2013-12-08 10:16:40 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-12-08 10:16:41 PM
When they are dead they are considered hookers

Only live ones should be referred to prostitutes or escorts
 
2013-12-08 10:17:18 PM

JasonOfOrillia: No Cyril! When they're dead they're just hookers!


Damn both of you beat me to it
 
2013-12-08 10:18:12 PM

DreamSnipers: If he had killed his lawyer I might support the argument he had killed someone of little value.


THIS

/Seriously, a woman willing to have sex with losers who have to pay for it is more worthy of life than the john or lawyer in this case
 
2013-12-08 10:18:55 PM

BumpInTheNight: Wow, USA USA USA USA.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/chinese-general-son-li-ti anyi-rape-trial

Li Tianyi, 17, stands accused of raping a woman in a Beijing hotel with four other men in February. Li claimed that he was drunk at the time and had no knowledge of the incident, according to state media reports.

Li's father, Li Shuangjiang, is a People's Liberation Army general and the dean of the music department at the army's Academy of Arts. His mother, prominent singer Meng Ge, was present at the Beijing courthouse on Wednesday, but refused to answer reporters' questions, according to China's state newswire Xinhua. The proceedings will not be made public because the defendant is an adolescent, Xinhua said.

The complainant did not appear in court for health-related reasons, her lawyer told the newswire. Li's family members have said that she was a bar hostess and argued that the case is one of prostitution, not rape.
 
2013-12-08 10:22:14 PM

Urbn: /Seriously, a woman willing to have sex with losers who have to pay for it


Dude, we all have to pay for it, in one way or another.
 
2013-12-08 10:23:21 PM
NO leniency at all for convicted murderers all life is precious and killing someone is a horrific act reguardless of that person was a Nobel Laureate   or  a Nun or a homeless person.
 
2013-12-08 10:24:35 PM

Danger Avoid Death: Urbn: /Seriously, a woman willing to have sex with losers who have to pay for it

Dude, we all have to pay for it, in one way or another.


And sleeping with prostitutes is by far the cheapest way to do it. By far.
 
2013-12-08 10:25:12 PM
If the lawyer wins that case, he pretty much opened hunting season on lawyers!
 
2013-12-08 10:25:24 PM
Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.
 
2013-12-08 10:25:26 PM
Another GTA thread?  Must be a day ending in y.
 
2013-12-08 10:26:01 PM
40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

Matthew 25:40-45


/seems worse than killing a "model citizen"
 
2013-12-08 10:28:18 PM
Who is lower, the prostitute or the person who pays to be with said prostitute?
 
2013-12-08 10:29:21 PM

DreamSnipers: If he had killed his lawyer I might support the argument he had killed someone of little value.


And if he gets sentenced to community service he's already got it covered.
 
2013-12-08 10:31:10 PM
Nope, not clicking on this parasitic blog.
 
2013-12-08 10:31:19 PM

DreamSnipers: If he had killed his lawyer I might support the argument he had killed someone of little value.


Either way, he would have killed a whore.
 
2013-12-08 10:32:32 PM

Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.


...and therefore deserved to be murdered?
 
2013-12-08 10:33:49 PM
Sadly, I think he'll go free
 
2013-12-08 10:34:02 PM

Bermuda59: Who is lower, the prostitute or the person who pays to be with said prostitute?


Who said that?   Ho Bee Wan Kenobi?
 
2013-12-08 10:34:23 PM
i291.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-08 10:34:28 PM
The lawyer and the murdering clown both deserve the death penalty. I hope neither of them has been able to reproduce.
 
2013-12-08 10:35:25 PM
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2013-12-08 10:40:25 PM

propasaurus: Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.

...and therefore deserved to be murdered?


No no, definitely not, but it's a much better argument than trying to say the john was a better "class" of person than the prostitute he murdered.
 
2013-12-08 10:42:18 PM

Bermuda59: Who is lower, the prostitute or the person who pays to be with said prostitute?


His defense lawyer.
 
2013-12-08 10:42:37 PM

Danger Avoid Death: Urbn: /Seriously, a woman willing to have sex with losers who have to pay for it

Dude, we all have to pay for it, in one way or another.


I'm not a dude  :)

And if you think us women don't pay for it in our own way with you schmucks, you're deluded  ;)
 
2013-12-08 10:46:52 PM
uhh ...

1. We have a wanna be "man" who pretends to be a girl.
2. The buyer of the service realized he was frauded.
3. The buyer kills the pretender

So ... why is the buyer in trouble? He made the world a better place ..
 
2013-12-08 10:47:31 PM
Ah, the grand theft auto defense
 
2013-12-08 10:48:53 PM
Psh everyone knows prostitutes aren't people.
 
2013-12-08 10:49:56 PM
Ah, yes. The Jack The Ripper Defence.


What is sad is that this argument might actually sway a jury.


/ok, so the guy had a Crying Game moment and killed the other guy in a fit of rage. He should have plead temporary insanity fueled by anger, not jus because the prostitute turned out to be a guy, but because he found out that the cross-dressing prostitute's wang was bigger than his
 
2013-12-08 10:51:01 PM

Shannara: uhh ...

1. We have a wanna be "man" who pretends to be a girl.
2. The buyer of the service realized he was frauded.
3. The buyer kills the pretender

So ... why is the buyer in trouble? He made the world a better place ..


1/10. Try harder
 
2013-12-08 10:52:13 PM
The judge had better completely ignore  this argument.  A basic foundation of our justice system is it is the same for everyone, regardless of social standing.
 
2013-12-08 10:52:32 PM

Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.


You're an idiot.
 
2013-12-08 10:53:10 PM
Place the guy and his lawyer in a room.

Give the guy a gun, a single shot pistol, and one bullet.

Lock the door.

Things will sort themselves out.
 
2013-12-08 10:54:17 PM

propasaurus: Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.

...and therefore deserved to be murdered?


Nope, not then either. I can see getting a little upset and evicting the hooker from your car, but killing is way too much. If you can't settle a situation like this without violence the rest of the world can surely do without you.

That said, there should be separate areas for prostitutes who are male, female and "Other," just to avoid confusion. Shiat like this happens too damn often, even when in broad daylight it's plainly obvious that this person was not born female, and in most cases it's the hooker who gets the worst part of the interaction. For the hookers own protection s/he should make that clear at the outset, and hell, some guys will pay extra for "chicks with dicks."

(I don't understand hetero "pegging," by the way: if you want to get buttsexed why not get a real man to do it? Surely there have to be one or two of those reading this at any given moment.)
 
2013-12-08 10:57:07 PM

PsiChick: Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.

You're an idiot.


Full Definition of MALE
1a :  a male person :  a man or a boy
  b :  an individual that produces small usually motile gametes (as spermatozoa or spermatozoids) which fertilize the eggs of a female
 
2013-12-08 11:02:07 PM

Bermuda59: Who is lower, the prostitute or the person who pays to be with said prostitute?


The one who doesn't approve of two consenting adults doing what they damn well please.
 
2013-12-08 11:03:01 PM

OgreMagi: PsiChick: Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.

You're an idiot.

Full Definition of MALE
1a :  a male person :  a man or a boy
  b :  an individual that produces small usually motile gametes (as spermatozoa or spermatozoids) which fertilize the eggs of a female


From a dictionary that's never actually seen the studies showing that trans people are about as much their birth gender as they are a fish? Yeah, probably, but for everyone else...no, identified gender is what counts.
 
2013-12-08 11:03:04 PM
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2013-12-08 11:04:59 PM

Vector R: propasaurus: Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.

...and therefore deserved to be murdered?

No no, definitely not, but it's a much better argument than trying to say the john was a better "class" of person than the prostitute he murdered.


Note to self: Never hire Vector R as an attorney.
 
2013-12-08 11:05:01 PM

PsiChick: OgreMagi: PsiChick: Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.

You're an idiot.

Full Definition of MALE
1a :  a male person :  a man or a boy
  b :  an individual that produces small usually motile gametes (as spermatozoa or spermatozoids) which fertilize the eggs of a female

From a dictionary that's never actually seen the studies showing that trans people are about as much their birth gender as they are a fish? Yeah, probably, but for everyone else...no, identified gender is what counts.


Your confusing the scientific versus the social definitions.
 
2013-12-08 11:08:45 PM
the prosecution should argue that the defendant should be killed, as it is not a human but instead a highly evolved monkey with verbal skills.
 
2013-12-08 11:11:35 PM

Urbn: DreamSnipers: If he had killed his lawyer I might support the argument he had killed someone of little value.

THIS

/Seriously, a woman willing to have sex with losers who have to pay for it is more worthy of life than the john or lawyer in this case


If I sleep with a hooker because I want to, and not because I have to, am I still a loser?

/If I'm a happy loser, am I still a loser?
 
2013-12-08 11:11:50 PM

OgreMagi: PsiChick: OgreMagi: PsiChick: Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.

You're an idiot.

Full Definition of MALE
1a :  a male person :  a man or a boy
  b :  an individual that produces small usually motile gametes (as spermatozoa or spermatozoids) which fertilize the eggs of a female

From a dictionary that's never actually seen the studies showing that trans people are about as much their birth gender as they are a fish? Yeah, probably, but for everyone else...no, identified gender is what counts.

Your confusing the scientific versus the social definitions.


This really wasn't about the scientific definitions in the first place.
 
2013-12-08 11:15:27 PM

Gyrfalcon: Vector R: propasaurus: Vector R: Everett strangled Andujar to death after discovering that she he had male genitalia.

FTFT. Females do not have male genitalia. Also, a more effective argument would've been arguing deceit, as the defendant presumably thought he was hiring a female prostitute and the victim likely knew this, but engaged in fraudulent deception.

...and therefore deserved to be murdered?

No no, definitely not, but it's a much better argument than trying to say the john was a better "class" of person than the prostitute he murdered.

Note to self: Never hire Vector R as an attorney.


I'd make a good attorney if we bring back judicial duels.

I know all the tricks, even the ones in Latin. Frenulum conseco, clunes calcitravimus !
 
2013-12-08 11:16:13 PM

Aquapope: DreamSnipers: If he had killed his lawyer I might support the argument he had killed someone of little value.

Either way, he would have killed a whore.


When I was in law school, my friends and I decided it would have been far better to become whores than lawyers. After all, whores make people happy, while lawyers pretty much only make them sad.
 
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