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(Russia Today)   Indian minister of secure email policy uses: a) a VPN, b) a new form of encryption, c) Hotmail   (rt.com) divider line 69
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2013-12-08 09:34:49 PM
Governor Palin seen feverishly taking notes
 
2013-12-08 10:28:40 PM
Hotmail is hot, therefore no hackers can touch it. Stupidmitter. Don't you know anything about computer?
 
2013-12-08 10:30:23 PM
Peter von Nostrand: Semi-Governor Palin seen feverishly taking notes

FTFY
 
2013-12-08 10:32:26 PM
Is anyone really surprised?
 
2013-12-08 10:34:46 PM
*sigh* I know I'm setting myself up for a beating here, but what is wrong with hotmail?  I have my name[nospam-﹫-backwards]liam­to­h*com because my n­ame[nospam-﹫-backwards]lia­mg­*com isn't available.  Seems to work just fine for me.
 
2013-12-08 10:34:51 PM
These a) b) c) format headlines wore out their welcome in 2007
 
2013-12-08 10:37:21 PM

Phil Clinton: *sigh* I know I'm setting myself up for a beating here, but what is wrong with hotmail?  I have my n­ame­[nospam-﹫-backwards]liamt­oh*co­m because my n­a­me[nospam-﹫-backwards]liam­g*com isn't available.  Seems to work just fine for me.


Nothing really, but it takes a long while for a history of mediocrity to be forgotten
 
2013-12-08 10:37:40 PM
Begoggle: These a) b) c) format headlines wore out their welcome in 2007

You seen an a) b) c) format headline on Fark. Do you

a) Ignore it and go into some other thread.
b) Go into the thread and post a whine about it.
c) C (see) what I did there
 
2013-12-08 10:38:35 PM
So the Indian Minister outsourced his IT requirement to the US?!


/HaHa.jpg
 
2013-12-08 10:39:39 PM
Sibal's office sent an e-mail inviting journalists to the launch of his new personal website using the free service Hotmail.

So the minister uses a PERSONAL e-mail account to send out an invite for his PERSONAL website?

Ok...
 
2013-12-08 10:42:44 PM
India has a minister of secure email policy?

Sounds like they're ahead of us in at least 1 way (us=USA)...

All we got are ministers of conformity and dictatorship (FCC and Homeland Security).
 
2013-12-08 10:42:55 PM

i158.photobucket.com


SEEMS LEGIT

 
2013-12-08 10:43:16 PM

lordargent: Begoggle: These a) b) c) format headlines wore out their welcome in 2007

You seen an a) b) c) format headline on Fark. Do you

a) Ignore it and go into some other thread.
b) Go into the thread and post a whine about it.
c) C (see) what I did there


Oh I see we have a butthurt white knight here.
 
2013-12-08 10:43:29 PM
At least he's not using floppies, amirite?
 
2013-12-08 10:43:46 PM
https, subs.
 
2013-12-08 10:44:40 PM

Phil Clinton: *sigh* I know I'm setting myself up for a beating here, but what is wrong with hotmail?  I have my name[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]liamtoh[* image 7x13]com because my name[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]liamg[* image 7x13]com isn't available.  Seems to work just fine for me.


Hotmail has notoriously bad security issues. And this is the minister who is in charged of beefing up their govt communications security.
 
2013-12-08 10:44:48 PM

Phil Clinton: *sigh* I know I'm setting myself up for a beating here, but what is wrong with hotmail?  I have my n­ame[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­i­amt­oh­*com because my na­me[nospam-﹫-backwards]li­a­m­g­*com isn't available.  Seems to work just fine for me.


I don't know about anyone else's reasons, but it's not remotely secure. It can be broken into by anyone with access to your facebook page, if they care enough.

For most people, that isn't an issue, no one cares what's in your hotmail. For someone with high-level access to sensitive international communications, however, hotmail can be a really juicy target.
 
2013-12-08 10:44:52 PM
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-12-08 10:46:12 PM

Begoggle: lordargent: Begoggle: These a) b) c) format headlines wore out their welcome in 2007

You seen an a) b) c) format headline on Fark. Do you

a) Ignore it and go into some other thread.
b) Go into the thread and post a whine about it.
c) C (see) what I did there

Oh I see we have a butthurt white knight here.


Is it...
A) you
B) someone you invented
C) you
 
2013-12-08 10:46:50 PM

Resident Muslim: So the Indian Minister outsourced his IT requirement to the US?!


/HaHa.jpg


At the time they were bought by Microsoft, a lot of hotmail's infrastructure was in India.

Not really sure what the outrage is here unless it's hipster butthurt because he's not using @me.com or gmail.
 
2013-12-08 10:47:44 PM
People still use Hotmail?
 
2013-12-08 10:49:49 PM
This whole article is pretty much why it was rebranded to Outlook.com by Microsoft.

/I use Gmail as my primary, but I still have a hotmaill.com email address that I created back in 1996 before it was owned by Microsoft. I think I still have some emails from my first purchases on Amazon and Newegg filed away in there somewhere.
 
2013-12-08 10:52:00 PM
WHOA EPIC MAIL FAIL LOLZ

or maybe he realizes no email is really secure and dgaf
 
2013-12-08 10:53:37 PM
Begoggle: Oh I see we have a butthurt white knight here.

Says the person who was butthurt enough about the format of the headline that they bothered to come into the thread and post a complaint about it.

And apparently can't take a little friendly joking.

i0.kym-cdn.com

// plonk
 
2013-12-08 10:59:31 PM
Hey, General Petraeus used gmail (or apparently did so when he got busted), as do I, so double win for gmail users!!!!
Generals and snarky Farkers like me, who are undoubtedly made of steel and living in a floating castle of gold use it, so go with the winning team!
 
2013-12-08 11:02:47 PM
I have been using Hotmail even before Microsoft acquired it. I have had no problems with it ever,and have never been hacked.
 
2013-12-08 11:07:47 PM

lordargent: Begoggle: These a) b) c) format headlines wore out their welcome in 2007

You seen an a) b) c) format headline on Fark. Do you

a) Ignore it and go into some other thread.
b) Go into the thread and post a whine about it.
c) C (see) what I did there


Ding! Ding! Ding! And we have a winner here!
 
2013-12-08 11:09:05 PM
DNRTFA but why does this surprise anyone. World famous security expert Bruce Schneier uses Windows, which has been correctly described as the world's greatest Trojan.
 
2013-12-08 11:11:34 PM
I use Hotmail for BIE.....EIP.
 
2013-12-08 11:13:46 PM

CthulhuCalling: Resident Muslim: So the Indian Minister outsourced his IT requirement to the US?!


/HaHa.jpg

At the time they were bought by Microsoft, a lot of hotmail's infrastructure was in India.

Not really sure what the outrage is here unless it's hipster butthurt because he's not using @me.com or gmail.


Me, I was just going for a joke.

Outrage is probably that a minister doesn't have a min­i­st­e­r[nospam-﹫-backwards]tne­m­traped­*go­v­*in email.

1) it just looks silly
2) might actually require a bit of work for other countries' spy agencies to access


/not implying anything. Why, what are you inferring?
//has received official government biz cards with @yahoo emails on them. Silly.
///slashies, come again
 
2013-12-08 11:16:06 PM
The newly elected mayor of Edmonton wants to (and has started to) move all municipal staff and departments from the current @edmonton.ca platform to GMail/GoogleApps.

I can't help but think this won't end well.
 
2013-12-08 11:16:48 PM

worlddan: DNRTFA but why does this surprise anyone. World famous security expert Bruce Schneier uses Windows, which has been correctly described as the world's greatest Trojan.


Would that make him a Trojan Man?

www.wearyourbeer.com
 
2013-12-08 11:18:51 PM
An

Bucky Katt: People still use Hotmail?



has been rebranded as outlook.com. I used it for a while and I like the interface and easy access to other services but have since given up on Microsoft. Except for OneNote.

/citadel for email and owncloud instead of skydrive
 
2013-12-08 11:19:05 PM

Phil Clinton: *sigh* I know I'm setting myself up for a beating here, but what is wrong with hotmail?  I have my name[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]liamtoh[* image 7x13]com because my name[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]liamg[* image 7x13]com isn't available.  Seems to work just fine for me.


The Microsofit web interface is really nice. It has been for years.

As the first popular free email service it got a bad rep because all the dirtballs used it.
 
2013-12-08 11:19:26 PM

Begoggle: These a) b) c) format headlines wore out their welcome in 2007


Nothing ever gets old here.

Because fark doesn't attract any fresh blood. The demographic just keeps aging.

it's the internet news aggregator equivalent of a classic rock station.
 
2013-12-08 11:25:11 PM
Phil Clinton:

*sigh* I know I'm setting myself up for a beating here, but what is wrong with hotmail? I have my name[nospam-﹫-backwards]liamtoh*com because my name[nospam-﹫-backwards]liamg*com isn't available. Seems to work just fine for me.

Nothing at all wrong with it, other than perception and snobbery. It's not like Gmail actually does anything better. I have half a dozen hotmail accounts.

Resident Muslim:

So the Indian Minister outsourced his IT requirement to the US?!

/HaHa.jpg


India outsources their travel visas to a US company. I wanted so much to call their support line just so I could find out if the phone was answered by some guy with a heavy Texan drawl claiming he was Ramesh from Dehli.
 
2013-12-08 11:26:06 PM
I wonder if Hotmail was the only other account he had set up besides his Lavabit account.
 
2013-12-08 11:26:58 PM
From: ka­p­i­ldapil­66­6­x­xx[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­ia­mt­oh­*com
Subject: Check out my new homepage, guys!
To: various reporters

Hey guys, it's me! Don't reply here, this is just a throw-away email to keep spam down at my official address. Check out my new homepage and sign my guestbook, k?

http://www.kapilonthewebs.org

Your broster with the moster,
Kapil S[exy]
 
2013-12-08 11:29:05 PM

apoptotic: The newly elected mayor of Edmonton wants to (and has started to) move all municipal staff and departments from the current @edmonton.ca platform to GMail/GoogleApps.



They'll still keep the @edmonton.ca domain, including for their email.

Theyr'e simply outsourcing their IT like tons of other businesses and government agencies.
 
2013-12-08 11:30:41 PM

super_grass: At least he's not using floppies, amirite?


He's a minister. Of course he's using his floppy.
 
2013-12-08 11:30:48 PM
When it comes down to it, basic SMTP email should not be considered secure anyway.

Better to think of it as mailing a postcard. So meh, Hotmail, BFD

/hopefully he didn't write an autobiography so hackers can 'recover' his password from knowing things like where he met his wife.
 
2013-12-08 11:55:42 PM
sendtodave:Because fark doesn't attract any fresh blood. The demographic just keeps aging.
it's the internet news aggregator equivalent of a classic rock station.


Astute analogy and too true.  I can hear the yacht rock playing as I post this.
 
2013-12-09 12:00:19 AM

berylman: sendtodave:Because fark doesn't attract any fresh blood. The demographic just keeps aging.
it's the internet news aggregator equivalent of a classic rock station.

Astute analogy and too true.  I can hear the yacht rock playing as I post this.


Good..damn kids can stay off my Fark lawn.
 
2013-12-09 12:02:41 AM

jaytkay: apoptotic: The newly elected mayor of Edmonton wants to (and has started to) move all municipal staff and departments from the current @edmonton.ca platform to GMail/GoogleApps.


They'll still keep the @edmonton.ca domain, including for their email.

Theyr'e simply outsourcing their IT like tons of other businesses and government agencies.


The problem is that now City communications will be housed not in Canadian servers but in the US and subject to US law.

When the University of Alberta moved to Google, the province's information and privacy commissioner had this to say: "Users of the University email system must be informed that their emails will reside in a foreign jurisdiction and will be subject to the laws of that jurisdiction, such as in this case, the USA Patriot Act. Individuals can then make an informed decision about what kind of information they will transmit through email. The University has agreed to inform the student body and employees that it won't be able to guarantee protection against possible disclosure of emails residing in the United States."
 
2013-12-09 12:03:03 AM
To be clear, the issue is using an email service not under national control, not using Hotmail - the article makes that clear, too, subby.
 
2013-12-09 12:06:23 AM

berylman: sendtodave:Because fark doesn't attract any fresh blood. The demographic just keeps aging.
it's the internet news aggregator equivalent of a classic rock station.

Astute analogy and too true.  I can hear the yacht rock playing as I post this.


I'll make the boat drinks.
 
2013-12-09 12:12:46 AM
"The fact became known to the public after IT Minister Kapil Sibal's office sent an e-mail inviting journalists to the launch of his new personal website using the free service Hotmail. "

How is this a fail? If I was going to send an Email to a bunch of journalists I'd use a throw way account like Hotmail and not my official Email as well.
 
2013-12-09 12:17:47 AM

sendtodave: Begoggle: These a) b) c) format headlines wore out their welcome in 2007

Nothing ever gets old here.

Because fark doesn't attract any fresh blood. The demographic just keeps aging.

it's the internet news aggregator equivalent of a classic rock station.


i get where you're coming from brother, but Rolling Stone's top 50 albums of 2013 took a bollocking here last week.

/then again, so did NME's
 
2013-12-09 12:32:21 AM

maxheck: Phil Clinton:

*sigh* I know I'm setting myself up for a beating here, but what is wrong with hotmail? I have my name[nospam-﹫-backwards]liamtoh*com because my name[nospam-﹫-backwards]liamg*com isn't available. Seems to work just fine for me.

Nothing at all wrong with it, other than perception and snobbery. It's not like Gmail actually does anything better. I have half a dozen hotmail accounts.

Resident Muslim:

So the Indian Minister outsourced his IT requirement to the US?!

/HaHa.jpg

India outsources their travel visas to a US company. I wanted so much to call their support line just so I could find out if the phone was answered by some guy with a heavy Texan drawl claiming he was Ramesh from Dehli.


Heh!
The world is becoming such a confusing place.
 
2013-12-09 12:37:05 AM

Coolfusis: I don't know about anyone else's reasons, but it's not remotely secure. It can be broken into by anyone with access to your facebook page, if they care enough.


Citation needed.
 
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