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2013-12-08 06:50:15 PM
8 votes:
leisureguy.files.wordpress.com
2013-12-08 05:50:46 PM
5 votes:
Do you know why they pick the colors they pick?  TEST GROUPS.

There aren't a bunch of executives standing around, saying, "Let's make it pink so girls like it!"

What they do is gather test groups of ACTUAL LITTLE GIRLS to see what they respond to.  They provide several versions of the toys.  The girls pick what they like best.

I don't prefer chocolate ice cream to vanilla because some marketing team convinced me that chocolate tastes better.  It just does.

The data very clearly shows that little girls' interest in nerf toys has increased since pink/purple versions became available.

WHAT THE fark IS WRONG WITH THAT?  It's not like the color pink is hurting you.  It's not oppressive.
2013-12-08 05:44:53 PM
5 votes:

brigid_fitch: "Typically I'd start ranting about the "pinking and shrinking" of cool stuff in order to market them for girls (farking pink Legos....)"



Dude. Whatever it takes to get girls to play with Legos. Seriously. I don't care if they have to infuse glitter into the plastic and paint the bricks with farking nail polish to get girls to choose building a Lego construction over brushing Barbie's hair. If it works, and more girls start engineering shiat, more power to them.
2013-12-08 05:36:54 PM
5 votes:
> don't market products to girls
> people complain about leaving girls out

> market products to girls
> people complain about sexism

Solution: ignore the whiners. You'll never be happy trying to appease them.
2013-12-08 05:34:39 PM
5 votes:
Nerf sells shiat.
Little girls get their parents to buy them pink shiat.
If nerf doesn't make their shiat pink, little girls won't get their parents to buy it.

This isn't called sexist, it's called making money.  Sexist should be applied to the poor excuses for parents who raise their little girls to think that pink is a girl's color.
2013-12-08 06:45:44 PM
4 votes:
www.wrestleenigma.com
2013-12-08 04:26:03 PM
4 votes:
Typically I'd start ranting about the "pinking and shrinking" of cool stuff in order to market them for girls (farking pink Legos....) but this one's just too awesome. I don't care how it's marketed, anything that gets crossbows & Gatling guns into the hands of little girls is a great idea.
2013-12-08 07:04:38 PM
3 votes:
Studies have shown that if you give a kid a choice between a "girl's toy" and a "boy's toy", most kids will have the most fun:

www.savvyhousekeeping.com

... playing with the box.
2013-12-08 06:33:04 PM
3 votes:

baconbeard: I wonder what it's like to be perpetually offended by... well, EVERYTHING. How empty and bereft of joy must your existence be if you have to pass everything though your agenda filters to see if it's "acceptable" or if it's something that throws you into yet another histrionic fit of outrage.


No no no, you got that wrong. It's not about being offended. It's about making sure other people know that you are offended. Doesn't really matter why or by what. As long as they know.
2013-12-08 06:13:14 PM
3 votes:

XanthPrime: Why can't pink be for boys?


Used to be that way a century or so ago - Pink for boys, blue for girls.

Pink used to be representative of violence and blood, since it is nearly red.

Blue? Not sure, but decidedly non-violent.
2013-12-08 06:02:41 PM
3 votes:

baconbeard: Benevolent Misanthrope: spmkk: brigid_fitch: "Typically I'd start ranting about the "pinking and shrinking" of cool stuff in order to market them for girls (farking pink Legos....)"


Dude. Whatever it takes to get girls to play with Legos. Seriously. I don't care if they have to infuse glitter into the plastic and paint the bricks with farking nail polish to get girls to choose building a Lego construction over brushing Barbie's hair. If it works, and more girls start engineering shiat, more power to them.

This.  Both of these.  My toys growing up were Lincoln Logs and Tinkertoys, until my dad remarried and the stepmom took all the "boys' toys" away and forced me to play with Barbies.  Biatch.  I farking hated them, and so pretty-much stopped playing and started reading.  It wasn't until I got out of that house that I was able to go play again, with the boys in the neighborhood.  We had EPIC war games.

You are so awesome and not like all the other girls!


Mock me all you want, but girls should be encouraged to be active and creative in ways other than hairstyling and fashion.
2013-12-08 05:52:32 PM
3 votes:

fusillade762: Not as sexist as this:

[www.sunshinecoasttoyshobbies.com.au image 495x559]


fark you.

You know why that toy is available?  Because LITTLE GIRLS LIKE TO PLAY HOUSE.

Nobody told little girls they should want to play house just the same as nobody told little boys to pretend a stick is a sword.

Too many of you idiots have ACTUALLY been brainwashed into thinking our children have been brainwashed.  Children are fine.  It's the "adults" who go insane.
2013-12-08 05:26:31 PM
3 votes:
Why can't pink be for boys?
2013-12-08 07:14:42 PM
2 votes:

spmkk: brigid_fitch: "Typically I'd start ranting about the "pinking and shrinking" of cool stuff in order to market them for girls (farking pink Legos....)"


Dude. Whatever it takes to get girls to play with Legos. Seriously. I don't care if they have to infuse glitter into the plastic and paint the bricks with farking nail polish to get girls to choose building a Lego construction over brushing Barbie's hair. If it works, and more girls start engineering shiat, more power to them.


It's easy to market Legos to little girls without making it farking pink: Put girls in the commercials and on the packaging! I hated my Barbies and played with my brother's GI Joes, model railroad, and Hot Wheels because they were way cooler. It was other little girls and their parents who thought I was weird. They'd whisper to my mother, "Do you want her to grow up to be a tomboy?" And Mom would panic and buy me an EZ Bake oven, banning me from playing with my brother's rescue copter.

There's a company now that markets science, construction, and engineering toys for girls without making them pink. They just make the commercials and packaging fun and interesting and feature girls: www.Goldieblox.com
2013-12-08 06:38:27 PM
2 votes:
The problem with girls' toys is not that they're pink. The problem is that so many of them suck. Passive, pretty adowable shiat covered in shiny glitter.
2013-12-08 06:12:39 PM
2 votes:

WorldCitizen: TOSViolation: WorldCitizen: It is really funny that in 2013 if you walk into a toy store there is a VERY obvious girls' section which is VERY much pink. And of course, the boys' section is full of blue. It's all very 1950s still in a toy store.

Yeah.  Have you gone into the men's section at a CLOTHING store?  There isn't a single bra to be found.  They don't put tampons beside the men's razors either.  Can you believe they would actually GROUP things that are designed for a specific gender?  It's insane!

So children's toys are designed for use on/in penises, vaginas, and boobs?  Who knew?


The female form is supposed to be attractive to males.  The male form is supposed to be attractive to females.  This is typically the case.  There are gay and bisexual people, but there will always be defects in nature, just as with cancer, sickle cell anemia, dwarfism, etc. (doesn't mean any of these groups should be persecuted, though)

The typical female child is interested in a certain type of toy and/or color scheme.  It doesn't have to be learned.  The thing is, not 100% of all little girls will be typical.

It's only after long years of societal brainwashing that people start to see a problem with the natural order of things.  People learn to hate.  That's all this is.  People learning to hate anything and everything that appears to be traditional whether or not there is any true traditional basis for it.
2013-12-08 06:03:40 PM
2 votes:

Fear the Clam: brigid_fitch: Typically I'd start ranting about the "pinking and shrinking" of cool stuff in order to market them for girls (farking pink Legos....) but this one's just too awesome. I don't care how it's marketed, anything that gets crossbows & Gatling guns into the hands of little girls is a great idea.

Agreed. Why not just make it green so everyone can enjoy it?


It's not like Nerf (or any other toy company) just puts these on the market in particular colors without any consultation and says "OK, this is what you get."  -- They test market  these things. They gather groups of little girls and let them play with several versions, then they get them in a room and ask them which ones they liked better, what colors they'd prefer, what features they'd like, etc.

They compile all the data from tests and focus groups, and then release the product that was most popular. In other words, the thing is pink because hordes of little girls-- the target market-- indicated that they wanted it to be pink.

If the focus groups of little girls had all said "We want a gender neutral color like brown" then Nerf would have released it in brown... Clearly, though, girls wanted pink.
2013-12-08 05:57:47 PM
2 votes:

WorldCitizen: It is really funny that in 2013 if you walk into a toy store there is a VERY obvious girls' section which is VERY much pink. And of course, the boys' section is full of blue. It's all very 1950s still in a toy store.


Yeah.  Have you gone into the men's section at a CLOTHING store?  There isn't a single bra to be found.  They don't put tampons beside the men's razors either.  Can you believe they would actually GROUP things that are designed for a specific gender?  It's insane!
2013-12-08 05:53:30 PM
2 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: BadReligion: Girls like colorful things. My 13 year old daughter has 3 (real) guns, 1 of them is pink, another is purple. The 3rd is black.

Why? Do you live in some kind of war-torn third-world lawless decrepit republic?


Because target shooting is fun.  Or maybe they like to hunt.  Or because, they farking can.  Why is none of your business.
2013-12-08 05:50:33 PM
2 votes:
Not as sexist as this:

www.sunshinecoasttoyshobbies.com.au
2013-12-08 05:46:53 PM
2 votes:

BadReligion: Girls like colorful things. My 13 year old daughter has 3 (real) guns, 1 of them is pink, another is purple. The 3rd is black.


Why? Do you live in some kind of war-torn third-world lawless decrepit republic?
2013-12-08 05:45:38 PM
2 votes:

OgreMagi: DrewCurtisJr: Brilliant? Creating a toy related to a hollywood blockbuster?

I'm sure they are thinking of the rising popularity of bows because of Katniss in the Hunger Games.

A friend of mine owns an archery range and she's seen an increase of tweens and teens learning the sport since the movie.


I shoot spot leagues and a lot of 3D and can confirm the onslaught of young girls partipating in archery. While it's good to see, they do crowd the lanes. Build more lanes! It will be interesting to see if they keep it up. Archery is an addictive sport they can participate in all their lives.
2013-12-08 05:40:44 PM
2 votes:
Girls like colorful things. My 13 year old daughter has 3 (real) guns, 1 of them is pink, another is purple. The 3rd is black.
2013-12-08 05:37:06 PM
2 votes:
Just don't make pretend archery motions in school...
2013-12-09 07:10:52 PM
1 votes:

MonoChango: I saw this in the store and asked my daughter if she would like one.  "No Dad. I need at least a 20 round magazine."
Makes a man tear up with pride.


You're raising her right. Pat yourself on the back and have a beer in celebration.
2013-12-09 08:11:42 AM
1 votes:
As a Nerfer its kinda cool is that Hasbro designed the Rebelle line from the ground up for the most part, theyre not just recolor of existing Blasters. In fact,  one of the Rebelle ones ones was released first with a recolor in the "boys" line released later.

4.bp.blogspot.com
2.bp.blogspot.com

I got my fiancee the Rebelle Sweet Revenge and myself the Zombiestrike Hammersmith. Also got my buddy and his wife a set for a housewarming gift.
2013-12-08 11:42:35 PM
1 votes:
www.fototime.com
2013-12-08 10:07:29 PM
1 votes:
Whoever that was that played Zoe on Firefly was also not too terrible.  Looked a hell of a lot more athletic and strong than the supposed superhuman badass girl, anyway.
2013-12-08 09:43:26 PM
1 votes:
The character was a rough and tumble young woman because she had to be.

I'd rough and tumble with catnest.  Haven't heard that expression in quite a while.  Or is it an expression.  Maybe they are modifiers.  You could say "The character was a rough young woman".  Maybe you could say "The character was a tumble young woman".  She just happened to be both rough and tumble.  I'd tumble for her, if you know what I mean.  And yes, it does involve boy george.
2013-12-08 09:08:58 PM
1 votes:

ggecko: This article is full of fail.

They talk about polite and pink and how there is nothing pretty or pink about survival.  Um, who decides that pink is pretty, or that some other color is about "survival"?

And isn't it the author that is making assumptions here?  They make a crossbow that is pink and purple so it is THEM that assumes this is for girls??

The irony is, if this was for boys, the author would have slanted the article to talk about how we shouldn't be marketing "weapons" to little kids.


Anyone who says there's no pink in being a survivalist has never gutted anything.
2013-12-08 08:55:31 PM
1 votes:

shamanwest: 1. If this is supposed to be for Hunger Games, why the ever-living fark is it pink? It doesn't have to be pink. Just put Hunger Games logo on it, and every little girl in the country will want it.


That Hunger Games logo isn't going to come cheap. But make something that can be related to it inside a kids head as being the same and you will make a whole lot more money.
2013-12-08 08:47:02 PM
1 votes:
Based on some of the responses in this thread, my understanding is that if a company markets a pink product to girls, you *have* to buy them that product; under no circumstances are you allowed to buy that whatever you feel is best for them. Is that correct? Because that's the only reasonable explanation that I can come up with for all the outrage.
2013-12-08 08:45:51 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: BadReligion: Quantum Apostrophe: BadReligion: Girls like colorful things. My 13 year old daughter has 3 (real) guns, 1 of them is pink, another is purple. The 3rd is black.

Why? Do you live in some kind of war-torn third-world lawless decrepit republic?

She really enjoys going shooting with me. It is something we bond over, and it teaches her responsibility. She knows how to properly handle firearms. It will also be good when she is out on her own, because a woman having a gun is, IMO, more important than a man having a gun, because it gives her an edge if someone bigger than her wants to victimize her.

Nice narrative. You probably even believe it.


Some people also believe 2+2=4.   This is what happens when you educate the rif-raf.
2013-12-08 08:28:57 PM
1 votes:

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: When you are starting to claim sexism based on the color of a toy, you should probably question what you are doing with your life.


The 'academic' left has room for thousands of professional victims.
2013-12-08 08:22:42 PM
1 votes:

wellreadneck: Jimmysolson: duffblue: Jimmysolson: Vitamin Pb: They should make it rainbow colored to market it to the gays.

6 to 10 year old gays?

Hey asshole it's not a choice, baby we were born this way.

I doubt they are aware of being gay or not gay at that age.
Unless they've had some help making up their mind, if you know what I mean?

They can be quite aware of it.


Wow!
And how would anyone know that?
Is it because boys are playing with dolls, girls are playing with trucks?
What method of testing/studies would make you know this?
I have no children, I'm obviously not a rocket scientist when it comes to childhood gender studies.
I'd think that outside influence might have some relevance as to childhood behavior.

I think the Nerf toys would be fun for either gender.
2013-12-08 08:12:52 PM
1 votes:

RogermcAllen: Nerf sells shiat.
Little girls get their parents to buy them pink shiat.
If nerf doesn't make their shiat pink, little girls won't get their parents to buy it.

This isn't called sexist, it's called making money.  Sexist should be applied to the poor excuses for parents who raise their little girls to think that pink is a girl's color.


Pink is good for little homo boys too.
2013-12-08 07:44:38 PM
1 votes:

duffblue: Jimmysolson: Vitamin Pb: They should make it rainbow colored to market it to the gays.

6 to 10 year old gays?

Hey asshole it's not a choice, baby we were born this way.


I doubt they are aware of being gay or not gay at that age.
Unless they've had some help making up their mind, if you know what I mean?
2013-12-08 07:15:03 PM
1 votes:
" There are over 2 billion Nerf products in worldwide circulation. That's one Nerf weapon for every man on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the women?"


cdn.ientry.com
2013-12-08 07:01:02 PM
1 votes:

Gleeman: zimbach: brigid_fitch: Typically I'd start ranting about the "pinking and shrinking" of cool stuff in order to market them for girls (farking pink Legos....) but this one's just too awesome. I don't care how it's marketed, anything that gets crossbows & Gatling guns into the hands of little girls is a great idea.

How about girls playing survival games with Airsoft guns?
Crunchyroll - Watch Stella Women's Academy, High School Division Class C3

I see your Airsoft, and raise you an FN P-90:

[i.imgur.com image 644x691]


OK, Then how about tanks?

img1.ak.crunchyroll.com
2013-12-08 06:59:38 PM
1 votes:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Benevolent Misanthrope: Mock me all you want, but girls should be encouraged to be active and creative in ways other than hairstyling and fashion.

So what you're saying is that they need to broaden their horizons to skirt the danger of tradition gender stereotypes?


I agree completely. It isn't sexist or misogynistic for girls to do what they enjoy. Every year for her birthday and Christmas, I get my niece building toys, educational stuff that is still fun, etc. I'm secretly trying to turn her into an engineer of some kind. There is too much "boy stuff"/"girl stuff". For God's sake, why can't we just let people be creative and enjoy themselves?

/Brony
2013-12-08 06:39:41 PM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: spmkk: brigid_fitch: "Typically I'd start ranting about the "pinking and shrinking" of cool stuff in order to market them for girls (farking pink Legos....)"


Dude. Whatever it takes to get girls to play with Legos. Seriously. I don't care if they have to infuse glitter into the plastic and paint the bricks with farking nail polish to get girls to choose building a Lego construction over brushing Barbie's hair. If it works, and more girls start engineering shiat, more power to them.

This.  Both of these.  My toys growing up were Lincoln Logs and Tinkertoys, until my dad remarried and the stepmom took all the "boys' toys" away and forced me to play with Barbies.  Biatch.  I farking hated them, and so pretty-much stopped playing and started reading.  It wasn't until I got out of that house that I was able to go play again, with the boys in the neighborhood.  We had EPIC war games.


reading wasn't just a substitute for playthings you found appealing. reading is a magical escape from a world you are trapped in. public libraries are a godsend to children in miserable circumstance.
2013-12-08 06:24:35 PM
1 votes:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Benevolent Misanthrope: Mock me all you want, but girls should be encouraged to be active and creative in ways other than hairstyling and fashion.

So what you're saying is that they need to broaden their horizons to skirt the danger of tradition gender stereotypes?



-_-
2013-12-08 06:22:02 PM
1 votes:
The rebelle bow also comes in blue (though the handle and barrel are still pink).

Also, am I the only one who painted my toys to look more realistic or what? A little sandpaper, paint, and time is all you need if you like the base design of the object.
2013-12-08 06:11:34 PM
1 votes:

BadReligion: Quantum Apostrophe: BadReligion: Girls like colorful things. My 13 year old daughter has 3 (real) guns, 1 of them is pink, another is purple. The 3rd is black.

Why? Do you live in some kind of war-torn third-world lawless decrepit republic?

She really enjoys going shooting with me. It is something we bond over, and it teaches her responsibility. She knows how to properly handle firearms. It will also be good when she is out on her own, because a woman having a gun is, IMO, more important than a man having a gun, because it gives her an edge if someone bigger than her wants to victimize her.


Nice narrative. You probably even believe it.
2013-12-08 06:11:33 PM
1 votes:

brigid_fitch: Typically I'd start ranting about the "pinking and shrinking" of cool stuff in order to market them for girls (farking pink Legos....) but this one's just too awesome. I don't care how it's marketed, anything that gets crossbows & Gatling guns into the hands of little girls is a great idea.


How about girls playing survival games with Airsoft guns?
Crunchyroll - Watch Stella Women's Academy, High School Division Class C3
2013-12-08 06:07:23 PM
1 votes:
1. If this is supposed to be for Hunger Games, why the ever-living fark is it pink? It doesn't have to be pink. Just put Hunger Games logo on it, and every little girl in the country will want it.
2. This article is shiat. Someone's blog/website sucks. Their reason is that if it sells as pink, Nerf will change it to another color. Um... no. They'll keep selling it as pink because it's selling. They'll only change the color if consumers make a stink about not buying it.
2013-12-08 06:01:49 PM
1 votes:
This article is full of fail.

They talk about polite and pink and how there is nothing pretty or pink about survival.  Um, who decides that pink is pretty, or that some other color is about "survival"?

And isn't it the author that is making assumptions here?  They make a crossbow that is pink and purple so it is THEM that assumes this is for girls??

The irony is, if this was for boys, the author would have slanted the article to talk about how we shouldn't be marketing "weapons" to little kids.
2013-12-08 06:01:06 PM
1 votes:

TOSViolation: WorldCitizen: It is really funny that in 2013 if you walk into a toy store there is a VERY obvious girls' section which is VERY much pink. And of course, the boys' section is full of blue. It's all very 1950s still in a toy store.

Yeah.  Have you gone into the men's section at a CLOTHING store?  There isn't a single bra to be found.  They don't put tampons beside the men's razors either.  Can you believe they would actually GROUP things that are designed for a specific gender?  It's insane!


So children's toys are designed for use on/in penises, vaginas, and boobs?  Who knew?
2013-12-08 05:56:25 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: Not as sexist as this:

[www.sunshinecoasttoyshobbies.com.au image 495x559]


You'd think that, but most girls actually like playing house.

/ cue the toy cars tucked in baby crib
2013-12-08 05:52:25 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: BadReligion: Girls like colorful things. My 13 year old daughter has 3 (real) guns, 1 of them is pink, another is purple. The 3rd is black.

Why? Do you live in some kind of war-torn third-world lawless decrepit republic?


shooting is fun.
2013-12-08 05:50:07 PM
1 votes:
Geesh subby.. why is your butt so sore from this?  They make a "boys" version too.

/totally want either one for the office!!
2013-12-08 05:48:03 PM
1 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Too bad she never actually looks strong in any depictions of her I see.


Thanks to Buffy, a strong female is now 90 pounds and 4 feet tall, and can send bad guys backflipping into the air and through walls with an uppercut.
2013-12-08 05:44:31 PM
1 votes:
While the color coding is often annoying to see, little girls wear far more pink and softer colors than boys. This is due to socialization, of course, but cannot fault a company for wanting to appeal to girls with the color often associated with girls. As long as the roles of girls are not outlined as nurturers, secretaries, homemakers, etc., while boys are the workers, bread-winners, and heroes, I see little problem with the color. Rather, this may be the way to get girls who have been through this socialization to see themselves in new roles.

I remember there were sets of 'girl' Lego predominantly composed of pinks, which is how one saw this was marketed at girls. Whereas my Lego were castles, dragons, the frontier, exploration, etc., where the only girl face belonged to the princess bedecked in pink, the Lego marketed at girls was of houses, with pets, sitting around drinking coffee, or heading shopping. This was horrible, and I am glad my young cousin enjoys the Ninjago Lego sets because I was able to build with her this holiday season a gargantuan four headed dragon and temple, of which pink was not to be found.
2013-12-08 05:40:11 PM
1 votes:
The Hunger Games and one Katniss Everdeen. The character was a rough and tumble young woman because she had to be. Because in her world, there was no room for being delicate. Strength, determination and the ability to hunt for food meant survival.

Too bad she never actually looks strong in any depictions of her I see.

media.screened.com
This fictional character is a bit better.
2013-12-08 05:39:33 PM
1 votes:
I'm going to reserve judgment on this until Jezebel has a chance to weigh in.
2013-12-08 05:38:43 PM
1 votes:
I wonder what it's like to be perpetually offended by... well, EVERYTHING. How empty and bereft of joy must your existence be if you have to pass everything though your agenda filters to see if it's "acceptable" or if it's something that throws you into yet another histrionic fit of outrage.
2013-12-08 05:30:43 PM
1 votes:
Brilliant? Creating a toy related to a hollywood blockbuster?
 
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