Mugato: We had Stanley Kubrick.
unyon: Mugato: We had Stanley Kubrick.And the Von Braun group.
Mugato: unyon: Mugato: We had Stanley Kubrick.And the Von Braun group.Von Braun was the director of photography?
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Mugato: unyon: Mugato: We had Stanley Kubrick.And the Von Braun group.Von Braun was the director of photography?Special effects
ecmoRandomNumbers: [img.fark.net image 434x550]
hasty ambush: ecmoRandomNumbers: [img.fark.net image 434x550]The Soviet N1 first stage had 30 rocket engines delivered and all those engines had to work almost perfectly as I understand itIn contrast the first stage of Saturn V S-1C had only 5 engines[paultclark.com image 409x286]
mark12A: Our Germans were better than their Germans.
optikeye: Really? The first few years of the 'space race' America got it's ass kicked.
Mugato: Damn, I wish I could have met him.
baufan2005: Russia had a rocket ready to go a week before the US. It's said that their plan was to send Cosmonauts to the moon with no way to return them. So basically go to the moon so we can be first and die a heroic death for your country. But that rocket exploded on the launch pad.
Suede head: The USA had all the money and Werner von Braun yet the Soviets won every round but the race for the moon. It was an amazing achievement.
Target Builder: Yeah, why did the folks who got the first satellite in space, the first animal in space and the first man in space and later went on to get the first woman into space and build the first permanent manned space station in space expect to be the first to land on the moon.
EngineerAU: baufan2005: Russia had a rocket ready to go a week before the US. It's said that their plan was to send Cosmonauts to the moon with no way to return them. So basically go to the moon so we can be first and die a heroic death for your country. But that rocket exploded on the launch pad.Why bother with the expense of a return vehicle when you could pack a couple of knives and hijack the American ship that was going to be there a week later?/not serious
Vogon Poet: Richard Feynman made the point in 1963 that the Soviet Union was anti-science, and it was exceedingly difficult to develop new ideas there. The problem was far worse in biology (the government rejected Mendelian genetics and outlawed any work based on it) but it set them back in all sciences.
minuslars: So basically, lake of funding and lack of political interest in making space a priority?Sounds like America lately.
meanmutton: minuslars: So basically, lake of funding and lack of political interest in making space a priority?Sounds like America lately.Why do people pretend that there's a lack of funding for NASA? Outside of the Apollo program, we're pretty damn close to the inflation-adjusted highs. 2013 funding is nearly $18 billion.As a comparison, the European Space Agency this year has a budget of about $5.5 billion.The Chinese National Space Administration has a budget of $0.5 billion.The Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency has a budget of $2.46 billion this year.The Russian Federal Space Agency has a budget of $5.56 billion.The US spends more on space exploration than the entire rest of the world combined.
Kibbler: The Russians put a motorized unmanned rover on the moon. They also landed a probe on Venus.I'm not really interested in fist-pumping "USA! USA!" or "USSR! USSR!" crap, I'm more interested in science. The USSR contributed to it, and if fist-pumping Commiephobes are pissed off by that, well they're pissed off.So yes you can say that the USA "won" the "moon race." Granted. Maybe now we should nuke Russia and dance on the radioactive ashes so that we can "prove" that the USA "won."Personally, I'm into science./always crabby on Sunday night so don't bother
whither_apophis: Sputnik 1 went "beep beep beep"
ecmoRandomNumbers: If I remember correctly from a Science Channel thingie on this subject, the Soviets on the project were so damned obstinate, they refused to believe that this technology couldn't work, and held onto it way longer than they should have.
peterthx: whither_apophis: Sputnik 1 went "beep beep beep"[www.nndb.com image 286x318]And I was like "uhhh"?/it devoured my paper
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