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(NYPost)   Can you identify the most famous people in modern history? Or are you as stupid as the rest of us?   (nypost.com) divider line 74
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2013-12-08 05:26:01 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers
I don't know what data they used,


The article makes it sound like they used the books which have been digitized by Google for its books.google search.
In that giant pile they looked for certain strings like "Merry Christmas".
Or in the case of the names they must have taken some "famous people born in year X" list and searched for the names on that list and ranked them by the number of occurrences.

With the same approach you could compile a list of "most famous Fark posters in recent history" by looking who got quoted the most in recent [weeks|months|years].
Would probably work even better due to the quote-buttons and the bold-convention: just update a list of usernames while going through each thread and then check each bolded string against that list of usernames and count the matches.
 
2013-12-08 05:28:42 PM
Lets see in the past 5 years? Kim Kardashian, Obama, and Grumpy Cat.
 
2013-12-08 05:48:45 PM
No composer on the list. Where is Henry Ford? Duke Ellington?
 
2013-12-08 06:05:44 PM

Hz so good: ..."1806: John Stuart Mill" of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away;
Half a crate of whiskey every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am"
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed!


That's the only reason I knew who he was. Heard the song when I was 10ish, went "who the fark?" And looked it up.

Still the first thing that runs through my mind when I hear his name.
 
2013-12-08 06:12:13 PM
Stretching the term "modern" more than a little bit here, don't you think?
 
2013-12-08 06:15:17 PM

brantgoose: Not many people know this but Grover Cleveland used many pseudonyms. He was President twice, a Supreme Court Justice, and won the Oscar for best supporting actor in a comedy in 1953 as Peter Ustinov. He wrote the works of George Sand and ghost-wrote several novels by Mark Twain, including Puddinghead Wilson.


I have you favorited as "under-appreciated." I hope you appreciate that ;)
 
2013-12-08 06:26:55 PM
"most famous"
as compiled by a liberal arts major
 
2013-12-08 06:30:00 PM

twiztedjustin: Indira Gandhi,  Susan Sontag, Daniel Ortega

Who?


Daniel Ortega . He invented the taco shell .
 
2013-12-08 06:42:41 PM

redsquid: Daniel Ortega, Inventor of the taco shell, made the cut. Woot!


Heh... I thought it was Ron Jeremy

/still a big dick, I guess
 
2013-12-08 06:43:54 PM
1888: John Foster Dulles
isleofran.com
 
2013-12-08 08:07:04 PM

silvervial: brantgoose: Not many people know this but Grover Cleveland used many pseudonyms. He was President twice, a Supreme Court Justice, and won the Oscar for best supporting actor in a comedy in 1953 as Peter Ustinov. He wrote the works of George Sand and ghost-wrote several novels by Mark Twain, including Puddinghead Wilson.

I have you favorited as "under-appreciated." I hope you appreciate that ;)


I have him faved simply as "WTF?"
 
2013-12-08 08:39:47 PM

red5ish: Hi. Do you know who I am? My name is Jacques Derrida.


To be fair, Derrida is way, way more famous than Neil Armstrong in the academic world.  Seems like half the professors and grad students in the liberal arts worship at the feet of deconstruction.
 
2013-12-08 09:18:12 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: What a stupid list.. I didn't see a single Kardashian on there.


upload.wikimedia.org

/endorses above statement wholeheartedly
 
2013-12-08 09:19:55 PM
I'll be honest.  The only one I recognized was Buffalo Bill.  He was the serial killer who tried to kill Jodie Foster to impress Monk.
 
2013-12-08 10:04:47 PM
1933 Susan Sontag or James Brown.  Hmmmm.  Who's more famous????
 
2013-12-08 10:22:40 PM
So they're just assuming that whatever fraction of texts have already been digitized by Google is representative of the entire set of extant texts?
 
2013-12-08 10:34:18 PM

tobd69: 1933 Susan Sontag or James Brown.  Hmmmm.  Who's more famous????


I'll go with "The King of Them All, Y'all".
 
2013-12-08 10:43:37 PM

Candygram4Mongo: Prey4reign: 1889 -  Jawaharal Nehru?  You know who else was born in 1889?

Naw, Hitler's infamous. That's like super-famous.


Then explane the guy in 1911
 
2013-12-08 11:09:38 PM

Relatively Obscure: If people can't identify the most famous people, how famous are they really?


This.

It doesn't matter if you were the first person to step on Mars and cure cancer, if no one recognize you 50 years from now, then maybe you aren't famous.

/should've had a sex tape
 
2013-12-09 12:02:32 AM
Sorry, John Morley, but 1838 should not be you. I understand that it's for the all the wrong reasons, but I'd say more famous than you is John Wilkes Booth.
 
2013-12-09 12:31:08 AM

Delta1212: red5ish: Born 1930
Hi, remember me? I'm Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the earth's moon.
That's right mother farker!! The first man on the MOON. Boo-ya!


Born 1930 (more famous than Neil Armstrong)
Hi. Do you know who I am? My name is Jacques Derrida.
I'm a French philosopher and I developed a form of semiotic analysis known
as deconstruction. What's that you say? Never heard it? Philistine!


"Academics cited by other academics (the people who write the most books) tend to be unduly weighted."
-N.S. Sherlock

I realize a lot of people sleep through high school, but do that many people make it all the way through college without having heard of deconstruction?

I'm a tech person and even I know what that is. (ish)


Hipster food places like to use the term... 'Deconstructed chicken pot pie' == 'thawed Swanson pot pie that we dropped on the floor and broke'
 
2013-12-09 01:41:16 AM
EVERYBODY knows that Daniel Ortega invented chili peppers.
 
2013-12-09 06:06:49 AM
Clarence Thomas? Really?
 
2013-12-09 06:24:10 AM

red5ish: Delta1212: I realize a lot of people sleep through high school, but do that many people make it all the way through college without having heard of deconstruction?

I'm a tech person and even I know what that is. (ish)

I know what deconstruction is too, sort of, but an estimated 600 million people watched the Apollo 11 landing live on television. I'm not making a value judgement about the two men's accomplishments, I'm sure there were other men (or women) who could have been the first on the moon, and there was probably only one Jacques Derrida to invent deconstruction. My point is that there is a clear academic bias in this list. It clearly has yielded some strange results. I know who Margaret Mead is, but is she more famous than Walt Disney? I guess I just don't think "most famous" is the correct title for the people in this list, but it's easier to fit into a headline and is 'sexier' than "most mentioned in the books we've digitalized and made searchable so far".


This is a perfect example of fame and impact. Niel Armstrong's name will be known for hundreds of years. Jacques Derrida's invention will be known for hundreds, maybe thousands of years. One has fame, one has impact. If your impact is large enough, then your name no longer matters, your invention speaks for itself. If not, your name is remembered.

/All of the Apollo 11 members recognized that fact more than the general public, to their credit
//That entry could only possibly have appeared if their corpus was a database of scholarly journals
///Their methodology sucks.

PillsHere: I'm really surprised Queen Victoria wasn't on this list.  I feel like she has been written about a lot and was a great influence on the world during her reign.


Not in journals, obviously.

Prey4reign: Noticed they listed Mao Zedong for 1893. I guess nobody merely famous was born that year.


I dunno, The final reckoning of history hasn't yet been written, but by now Mao has had FAR more influence than Goering. Goering helped kill lots of people, reshape the world, and helped found the History Channel. Mao created and initially ruled a long-lasting Chinese economic empire that has remained a world force far longer than the third reich, and is still reshaping the world. And he killed lots of people too.

Hate to put a psychotic tweaker on a pedestal, but anyone who says Hitler wasn't both he most famous and most influential person of the 20th century is delusional. Sorry, authors of this half-assed paper.
 
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