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(Philly.com)   Philadelphia police have way too much fun abusing citizens to simply give it up   (philly.com) divider line 79
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2013-12-08 11:11:25 AM
Tonight's the night that we got the truck 
We're goin' downtown gonna beat up drunks 
Your turn to drive I'll bring the beer 
It's the late, late shift no one to fear
 
2013-12-08 11:24:24 AM
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Weeeee!
 
2013-12-08 11:49:16 AM
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2013-12-08 12:00:20 PM
Anyone stupid enough to get drunk and belligerent in Philly has earned the right the deal with what the Philly police feel like doing.
 
2013-12-08 12:33:54 PM

WTF Indeed: Anyone stupid enough to get drunk and belligerent in Philly has earned the right the deal with what the Philly police feel like doing.


Nice.
 
2013-12-08 01:26:46 PM
A) "pt. hit his own head against divider as reported by arriving officers,"

B) He "hit [his] head on police car door."

C) "He banged his face multiple times off theiron steel [jail cell] bar"
 
2013-12-08 01:30:04 PM

WTF Indeed: Anyone stupid enough to get drunk and belligerent in Philly has earned the right the deal with what the Philly police feel like doing.



Stupid is as stupid does sir.
 
2013-12-08 01:35:49 PM
Got to love a city where the mob is friendly enough to wear easily identifiable uniforms and noisemakers on their cars. Shame they keep paralyzing people, though.
 
2013-12-08 01:38:00 PM
Fumbowl!
 
2013-12-08 01:38:16 PM

WTF Indeed: Anyone stupid enough to get drunk and belligerent in Philly has earned the right the deal with what the Philly police feel like doing.


People like you crack me up. You think the police are always justified until you get pulled over and then it's a great injustice. I guess you don't realize that the same rules that apply to the poor, minorities and the disadvantaged also applied to you. So you believe the police have the right to abuse and severely injure you, as long as they say you were belligerent. And if you deny that you deserved to have your neck broken, why would anyone believe a belligerent drunk? In court if a cop says it, it is treated as being true.
 
2013-12-08 01:38:40 PM
Sounds like a bunch of arseholes trying to cash in. There were witnesses in all three cases that clearly stated the suspects weren't abused, and with the clown with three busted vertebrae, the physician testified that it is possible the guy did it to himself.

/Next time, try not being an arsehole to the police
 
2013-12-08 01:45:17 PM

webron: People like you crack me up. You think the police are always justified until you get pulled over and then it's a great injustice. I guess you don't realize that the same rules that apply to the poor, minorities and the disadvantaged also applied to you. So you believe the police have the right to abuse and severely injure you, as long as they say you were belligerent. And if you deny that you deserved to have your neck broken, why would anyone believe a belligerent drunk? In court if a cop says it, it is treated as being true.


And people like you think that every policeman is out to beat up whomever they feel like, and that you live in a massive police state where you have zero freedoms.
 
2013-12-08 01:47:22 PM
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2013-12-08 01:49:44 PM
"He said the incident began after he saw a woman he knew at the bar and sent her and a friend a drink. When the women refused the drinks, McKenna said he went over to ask why."

Dammit I hate to ruin a cop-thread but this guy sounds like, a bit of a douche.
 
2013-12-08 01:51:52 PM

Bslim: "He said the incident began after he saw a woman he knew at the bar and sent her and a friend a drink. When the women refused the drinks, McKenna said he went over to ask why."

Dammit I hate to ruin a cop-thread but this guy sounds like, a bit of a douche.


And an idiot. Never ask a woman why, just move on.
 
2013-12-08 01:54:42 PM
Police commanders say the force has retrofitted almost all the wagons to replace seat belts with so-called grab belts. These are belts that run behind prisoners' backs. Suspects, seated with their hands cuffed behind them, are expected to hold on during rides.
Police Capt. Raymond Convery, commander of fleet management for the department, says the new approach has spared prisoners from potentially harmful entanglements with belts and kept police from having to reach over hostile suspects to strap them in.


media.philly.com

The photo is not that helpful, but we are talking about bench seats with dividers and something that looks like a old style lap belt already clicked into the seat so people don't have to worry about the seat belt ding going off. Think the 70's.

Anyway drunk and anyone arrested is expected to have the torque to hold the strap with your hands behind you at your waist, only inches apart. I am in decent shape and not sure about this. Consider people are are wasted or not in shape.

This is also so police don't have to put themselves in danger getting headbutted by jerks. I am at a loss here.

\Not sure if police have gotten worse or it just took in internet to get people together to share the hate.
 
2013-12-08 01:56:54 PM

"The practice was entrenched before the department vowed to end it a dozen years ago after an Inquirer investigative series. The articles detailed crippling injuries, including paralysis, suffered by people placed unrestrained in the vans."


And some people can't figure out why others are wary of the police. A dangerous practice done by officers who take things personally and create stupid policies. There really needs to be some kind of procedure where individual officers could be held liable.

 
2013-12-08 01:58:49 PM

Enemabag Jones: This is also so police don't have to put themselves in danger getting headbutted by jerks.


Occupational hazard of police work. If they can't deal with it, I hear that McDonald's is hiring.
 
2013-12-08 02:00:38 PM
skinink
And some people can't figure out why others are wary of the police. A dangerous practice done by officers who take things personally and create stupid policies. There really needs to be some kind of procedure where individual officers could be held liable.


Something like a doctor where if a professional has great power to effect someone's well-being, might have to buy insurance as a professional whatever. And if they make one too many mistakes or one huge mistake, the cost of insurance goes up to the point where they can not afford to do that job anymore.

I am at a loss for a solution.
 
2013-12-08 02:02:36 PM
AndreMA
Enemabag Jones: This is also so police don't have to put themselves in danger getting headbutted by jerks.
Occupational hazard of police work. If they can't deal with it, I hear that McDonald's is hiring.


I didn't make myself clear but there is a reason why police jobs are number 10-13 of the most dangerous jobs in the US. They are displacing risk onto the general public.
 
2013-12-08 02:02:46 PM
If they'd properly restrained the arrestee in these vans- if the vans were equipped with passenger restraints in the first place- then none of this would be a problem.

I love the theoretical situation where an officer might face some risk from belting in an arrestee. Motherfarker, he's wearing handcuffs, and you're PAID TO TAKE THAT RISK.

Bah.
 
2013-12-08 02:11:35 PM

jaytkay: A) "pt. hit his own head against divider as reported by arriving officers,"

B) He "hit [his] head on police car door."

C) "He banged his face multiple times off theiron steel [jail cell] bar"


d) Philly cops dropped bombs inside the van until he broke his neck
 
2013-12-08 02:13:16 PM
FTFA: "...For rogue police, it was a literal way to deliver "street justice."

Definition of rogue from Free Dictionary - is 3. Operating outside normal or desirable controls
I doubt that calling them rogue is appropriate, since this appears to be what is normal.
 
2013-12-08 02:13:52 PM

Enemabag Jones: AndreMA
Enemabag Jones: This is also so police don't have to put themselves in danger getting headbutted by jerks.
Occupational hazard of police work. If they can't deal with it, I hear that McDonald's is hiring.

I didn't make myself clear but there is a reason why police jobs are number 10-13 of the most dangerous jobs in the US. They are displacing risk onto the general public.


I mean aren't most of the deaths caused by traffic accidents, largely of their own doing? I tried to check real quick for a breakdown but didn't find one. I remember one or two showing up in Fark threads though.
 
2013-12-08 02:16:03 PM
The reason the police can't give it up is because that's how the roll with it.
 
2013-12-08 02:23:18 PM
Why don't they just install cameras inside the vans?

Then if you see some guy bouncing around while the driver does his best Tokyo Drift impression you will have substantiated the fact that the prisoner was injured intentionally. Then the police can't say "uhhh...ummm..he was trying to Parkour in his jail cell and hurt himself....yeah....that's what happened..."
 
2013-12-08 02:27:13 PM

armor helix: Why don't they just install cameras inside the vans?

Then if you see some guy bouncing around while the driver does his best Tokyo Drift impression you will have substantiated the fact that the prisoner was injured intentionally. Then the police can't say "uhhh...ummm..he was trying to Parkour in his jail cell and hurt himself....yeah....that's what happened..."


Because replacing all of the "broken" cameras would get real expensive.
 
2013-12-08 02:28:58 PM

Vector R: with the clown with three busted vertebrae, the physician testified that it is possible the guy did it to himself.


And we all know that if something is possible, that means it definitely happened.
 
2013-12-08 02:29:46 PM
CSS (cool story sis) time...

My sister was known for giving back as much shiat as she got. One day she decided to test the limits of civil disobedience and ended up being arrested. In protest she refused to walk. The kind officers were willing to help and assist with her mobility needs. She was escorted repeatedly, head-first, into the closed car door. The officers couldn't figure out how the door got shut every time they tried to put her in the back.

Then they tased her for not getting into the vehicle quietly.

/end CSS
 
2013-12-08 02:30:26 PM
redmid17
I mean aren't most of the deaths caused by traffic accidents, largely of their own doing? I tried to check real quick for a breakdown but didn't find one. I remember one or two showing up in Fark threads though.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/28/police-deaths-2010_n_801901. h tml

I have never looked before but check out the 2010 article above. It seems to go up and down from a little below 100 to slightly above 200 deaths a year. 2010 has 160 deaths in the line of duty. 59 by gunfire, 73 in traffic, and 28 by slipping on ice or playing starcraft too much. However if you read the article, numbers slides up and down quite a bit in a given year. But it appears that more then half in general are from traffic accidents.

As an additional biatch, why was there no graph for this, because reading text about statics is so easy.
 
2013-12-08 02:31:31 PM
 
2013-12-08 02:35:03 PM
armor helix
Why don't they just install cameras inside the vans?
Then if you see some guy bouncing around while the driver does his best Tokyo Drift impression you will have substantiated the fact that the prisoner was injured intentionally. Then the police can't say "uhhh...ummm..he was trying to Parkour in his jail cell and hurt himself....yeah....that's what happened..."

Because then all of the people would start jumping and sliding around at the same time to create the illusion of bad driving. Those scammers.
 
2013-12-08 02:39:05 PM
Holding onto a belt behind your back when your weight is being thrown away from the belt due to a curve would be extremely injurious to the shoulders. Same if you were thrown sideways due to abrupt stopping/acceleration and try to hang on. If the police are so worried about leaning over a prisoner due to being spit on etc. put some roller coaster style restraints in the van that lower easily and lock into place.

And put a damn camera in the back to show there's nothing excessive going on during transport. They're cheap, and so is memory for the recording device. You can also record acceleration, turning, and braking forces if you wanted to. If you've got nothing to hide you shouldn't be worried, right officer?
 
2013-12-08 02:39:11 PM

WTF Indeed: webron: People like you crack me up. You think the police are always justified until you get pulled over and then it's a great injustice. I guess you don't realize that the same rules that apply to the poor, minorities and the disadvantaged also applied to you. So you believe the police have the right to abuse and severely injure you, as long as they say you were belligerent. And if you deny that you deserved to have your neck broken, why would anyone believe a belligerent drunk? In court if a cop says it, it is treated as being true.

And people like you think that every policeman is out to beat up whomever they feel like, and that you live in a massive police state where you have zero freedoms.


It's funny, because I have you farkied as "pro NSA."

And for some reason, you're here arguing for abuse of authority.
 
2013-12-08 02:42:15 PM

armor helix: Why don't they just install cameras inside the vans?

Then if you see some guy bouncing around while the driver does his best Tokyo Drift impression you will have substantiated the fact that the prisoner was injured intentionally. Then the police can't say "uhhh...ummm..he was trying to Parkour in his jail cell and hurt himself....yeah....that's what happened..."


That's probably why they don't install cameras inside the vans.
 
2013-12-08 02:42:50 PM

armor helix: Why don't they just install cameras inside the vans?

Then if you see some guy bouncing around while the driver does his best Tokyo Drift impression you will have substantiated the fact that the prisoner was injured intentionally. Then the police can't say "uhhh...ummm..he was trying to Parkour in his jail cell and hurt himself....yeah....that's what happened..."


Why take the risk of having something incriminating show up?!
Do you think the police, on their own accord, would install such a thing? Thereby opening themselves to regular citizens like yourself judging whether their use of force was justified or not?!
Don't holding your breath, they will never do that to themselves, regardless of how much people pointed out how this can help them avoid lawsuits, how this can help get convictions and evidence, or be used as learning material.
They will never do that to themselves to avoid looking bad. This is like the Abu Gharib pictures that never got released by rule of court (iirc) because they were afraid of the backlash that could happen against the armed forces. If you thought the pictures that got released were bad, can you imagine what was in the ones that weren't released?
Same with the cops.

--------

They have the privacy that you don't have. To do what you can't and shouldn't do.


/welcome to the real world Neo
 
2013-12-08 02:43:29 PM
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2013-12-08 02:46:15 PM

Hot Carl To Go: Holding onto a belt behind your back when your weight is being thrown away from the belt due to a curve would be extremely injurious to the shoulders. Same if you were thrown sideways due to abrupt stopping/acceleration and try to hang on. If the police are so worried about leaning over a prisoner due to being spit on etc. put some roller coaster style restraints in the van that lower easily and lock into place.

And put a damn camera in the back to show there's nothing excessive going on during transport. They're cheap, and so is memory for the recording device. You can also record acceleration, turning, and braking forces if you wanted to. If you've got nothing to hide you shouldn't be worried, right officer?


They could also put a bag over their head like they do in jails to prevent the spitting...
 
2013-12-08 02:47:23 PM
Frank Rizzo has shed a single tear.
 
2013-12-08 02:50:10 PM

Enemabag Jones: AndreMA
Enemabag Jones: This is also so police don't have to put themselves in danger getting headbutted by jerks.
Occupational hazard of police work. If they can't deal with it, I hear that McDonald's is hiring.

I didn't make myself clear but there is a reason why police jobs are number 10-13 of the most dangerous jobs in the US. They are displacing risk onto the general public.


I think you're partly mistaken... they're not only displacing risk onto the general public, they're also creating additional risk to the general public.

That police work is particularly dangerous is a myth. One is about twice as likely to have a fatal on-the-job mishap as a roofer, farmer or rancher, and over 5 times as likely as a logger... and be more likely to be doing work that benefits society in the process.
 
2013-12-08 02:52:37 PM

WTF Indeed: Anyone stupid enough to get drunk and belligerent in Philly has earned the right the deal with what the Philly police feel like doing.


I like you for your reliability.

No matter the topic, you always manage to find the wrong side of it to be on.

You make me smile.
 
2013-12-08 02:53:57 PM

Enemabag Jones: Because then all of the people would start jumping and sliding around at the same time to create the illusion of bad driving. Those scammers.


Easily solved by recording the existing telemetry from the airbag deployment sensors, or using a $5 accelerometer.
 
2013-12-08 02:54:52 PM
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2013-12-08 03:04:43 PM

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Damn, you beat me to it!!! Anywho..........

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2013-12-08 03:06:42 PM
I blame BMW.
 
2013-12-08 03:08:38 PM
AndreMA,
I think you're partly mistaken... they're not only displacing risk onto the general public, they're also creating additional risk to the general public.
That police work is particularly dangerous is a myth. One is about twice as likely to have a fatal on-the-job mishap as a roofer, farmer or rancher, and over 5 times as likely as a logger... and be more likely to be doing work that benefits society in the process.


I am tired of pulling out the top ten most dangerous jobs, but I agree with you. Pull out the traffic deaths out of the final number, it would go way down. Not that working in traffic isn't dangerous, but this is comparable to road construction workers and has nothing to do with bad people attempting to kill them.

Displacing risk vs creating additional risk, this is arguing over language used and legal issues if it is negligent behavior by design or people going too far in their line of work.

We agree and that is enough.
 
2013-12-08 03:15:28 PM
Remember, boys and girls:
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Class warfare.

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Not class warfare.
 
2013-12-08 03:18:00 PM
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2013-12-08 03:20:16 PM
If I banged my head against steel bars every time a woman refused one of my drink offers, my head would be in a permanent vibrate mode like the Little Caesar guy.
 
2013-12-08 03:21:56 PM
What do you expect for a nickel?
 
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