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(Deadline)   Frozen and Catching Fire are neck and neck in the box office race, well ahead of their closest competition, Thor: The Dark World (which just passed the $600 million mark). Newcomer Out of the Furnace should have gone straight to video, though   (deadline.com) divider line 47
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2013-12-08 12:13:08 PM
And they said movies with female leads don't do well...
 
2013-12-08 12:57:22 PM
Do people bet on box office receipts? I've never understood how this came to be such a popular news item. To Farkers in other countries; do people in your country carefully watch the box office intake of new release movies in order to know which studio will make the most money? Or is this just something that has happened in the USA?
 
2013-12-08 12:58:05 PM
No surprise that Fire & Ice: The Race For Box Office Supremacy is still going strong. Of course, all that should change next week when the highly anticipated The Desolation Of Smaug roars into theaters. Cannot. Wait.

In related news, Homefront should have been Winona Ryder's ticket back to the big leagues. She was by far the best part of what otherwise another formulaic Statham vehicle.
 
2013-12-08 12:59:38 PM
I saw "Frozen" last night. Far, far better than I was expecting.
 
2013-12-08 01:02:08 PM
There's already a Paul Walker biography pic?
 
2013-12-08 01:13:33 PM

eddievercetti: And they said movies with female leads don't do well...


Who the hell ever said that? There were like 17 Resident Evil movies and counting.

Repo Man: Do people bet on box office receipts? I've never understood how this came to be such a popular news item. To Farkers in other countries; do people in your country carefully watch the box office intake of new release movies in order to know which studio will make the most money? Or is this just something that has happened in the USA?


I dunno, as a guy in the movie biz, I don't know why people care about how well strangers throw a ball around. People have different interests.
 
2013-12-08 01:15:27 PM
I found Frozen only mildly entertaining. We sure have come a long way from Beauty & the Beast quality animation, but the story felt contrived, with way too much psychoanalysis. The twist was a surprise, but made for a lazy conclusion considering what made the elder sis get pissed.
 
2013-12-08 01:16:44 PM

Repo Man: Do people bet on box office receipts? I've never understood how this came to be such a popular news item. To Farkers in other countries; do people in your country carefully watch the box office intake of new release movies in order to know which studio will make the most money? Or is this just something that has happened in the USA?


I don't really find it any more weird than people getting really excited about which multimillion dollar corporation comes out on top when they play against each other in the football field.
 
2013-12-08 01:17:40 PM
ON the football field.

/farking from my phone.
 
2013-12-08 01:26:29 PM

Repo Man: Do people bet on box office receipts? I've never understood how this came to be such a popular news item. To Farkers in other countries; do people in your country carefully watch the box office intake of new release movies in order to know which studio will make the most money? Or is this just something that has happened in the USA?


If a movie you like does well and makes a lot of money, chances are that the big money loving corporations will then make more of those.  It makes sense to me for people to want things they like to do well verses other things they don't.

For my money, Frozen was WAY better than I was expecting.  The kids liked it, and though it had about 17 more songs than I normally could tolerate, it was a pretty entertaining film.  Was pleasantly surprised to see that they didn't overdo the talking snowman thing.  I really thought he was going to be the quirky star, but he really only popped in for the occasional comic relief and got out of frame quickly enough to not mess up the story too much.
 
2013-12-08 01:28:33 PM

Mad_Radhu: Repo Man: Do people bet on box office receipts? I've never understood how this came to be such a popular news item. To Farkers in other countries; do people in your country carefully watch the box office intake of new release movies in order to know which studio will make the most money? Or is this just something that has happened in the USA?

I don't really find it any more weird than people getting really excited about which multimillion dollar corporation comes out on top when they play against each other in the football field.




I've never understood the obsession with sports either. But that does get to my point; it's as though people are making films out to be "teams" and are rooting for one over another.
 
2013-12-08 01:35:36 PM

rzrwiresunrise: I found Frozen only mildly entertaining. We sure have come a long way from Beauty & the Beast quality animation, but the story felt contrived, with way too much psychoanalysis. The twist was a surprise, but made for a lazy conclusion considering what made the elder sis get pissed.


Go rewatch Beauty & the Beast, I just did. Did not age well (unlike most Disney movies) and more that I'm not 11 the plot makes no sense at all :/
 
2013-12-08 01:36:23 PM
Now that I'm not 11*, stupid autocorrecting smart phone!
 
2013-12-08 01:38:41 PM

Mad_Radhu: Repo Man: Do people bet on box office receipts? I've never understood how this came to be such a popular news item. To Farkers in other countries; do people in your country carefully watch the box office intake of new release movies in order to know which studio will make the most money? Or is this just something that has happened in the USA?

I don't really find it any more weird than people getting really excited about which multimillion dollar corporation comes out on top when they play against each other in the football field.


Very bad analogy. Sports fans brag on trophies and championships, not how much money the team makes. In fact, spending a lot of money is usually looked at as a negative.
 
2013-12-08 01:39:01 PM

Repo Man: I've never understood the obsession with sports either. But that does get to my point; it's as though people are making films out to be "teams" and are rooting for one over another.


Even people who don't have a monetary interest in which movies do well, if they're movie goers, people like to see good  movies do better than shiatty movies, so that in the future there will be more quality films and less Adam Sandler and Tyler Perry shiat.
 
2013-12-08 01:39:44 PM

Shadowknight: Was pleasantly surprised to see that they didn't overdo the talking snowman thing.  I really thought he was going to be the quirky star, but he really only popped in for the occasional comic relief and got out of frame quickly enough to not mess up the story too much.


Why do people ALWAYS assume the "annoying sidekick" character will ruin the movie?  This seems to be a constant, never-changing trope every time an animated movie is about to be released. Seriously, I hear this every time a Pixar, Disney, or Dreamworks movie comes out. And then people are always "surprised" to discover that it wasn't true.

I realize it's mostly because the advertising/trailers of animated movies always tend to heavily emphasize the comic sidekick character, leading people to think the movie itself will over-use them. I guess I'm just surprised that the general public hasn't gotten hip to that misdirection yet.
 
2013-12-08 01:40:24 PM

baconbeard: I saw "Frozen" last night. Far, far better than I was expecting.


I actually got curious enough about it to take my sister to see it today. Elsa looks like a good character. Have a feeling I'll identify far more with her than Anna, and it'll be interesting to see a character with some villain potential not being a villain.
 
2013-12-08 01:44:05 PM

Mugato: Repo Man: I've never understood the obsession with sports either. But that does get to my point; it's as though people are making films out to be "teams" and are rooting for one over another.

Even people who don't have a monetary interest in which movies do well, if they're movie goers, people like to see good  movies do better than shiatty movies, so that in the future there will be more quality films and less Adam Sandler and Tyler Perry shiat.




Do you really believe that there is a reliable correlation between the quality of a film, and its box office receipts?
 
2013-12-08 01:49:57 PM

Repo Man: Do you really believe that there is a reliable correlation between the quality of a film, and its box office receipts?


No, I'm saying that if a decent movie does well at the box office, then the studio suits would be more inclined to make more decent movies. Like if all the recent original science fiction films hadn't flopped, they might have gone back to making original sci-fi movies. Unfortunately that's not the case, so we're going to get more movies based on vampire and young adult novels. And Tyler Perry.
 
2013-12-08 01:59:56 PM
"Frozen" was named that because of all of the refrigerator logic.

www.rotoscopers.com
 
2013-12-08 02:03:58 PM

Corn_Fed: Shadowknight: Was pleasantly surprised to see that they didn't overdo the talking snowman thing.  I really thought he was going to be the quirky star, but he really only popped in for the occasional comic relief and got out of frame quickly enough to not mess up the story too much.

Why do people ALWAYS assume the "annoying sidekick" character will ruin the movie?  This seems to be a constant, never-changing trope every time an animated movie is about to be released. Seriously, I hear this every time a Pixar, Disney, or Dreamworks movie comes out. And then people are always "surprised" to discover that it wasn't true.

I realize it's mostly because the advertising/trailers of animated movies always tend to heavily emphasize the comic sidekick character, leading people to think the movie itself will over-use them. I guess I'm just surprised that the general public hasn't gotten hip to that misdirection yet.


Because most of us grew up during the era of cartoon sidekicks ruining shows/movies.  Fantastic Four cartoon had Herbie the robot, Superfriends had Wendy/Marvin/Wonder Twins, He-Man had Orko, Thundercats had Snarf, freakin' Jar-Jar Binks...need I go on?  Scene-stealing, useless sidekicks were the norm for decades.  I think only since Pixar proved you didn't need them did they finally stop showing up everywhere.
 
2013-12-08 02:28:03 PM

Repo Man: Do people bet on box office receipts? I've never understood how this came to be such a popular news item. To Farkers in other countries; do people in your country carefully watch the box office intake of new release movies in order to know which studio will make the most money? Or is this just something that has happened in the USA?


Thor doing well is great because I want to see what Marvel does with Thanos in Avengers 3, which will only happen if the movies keep making money. That's the only reason I pay attention to box office numbers.
 
2013-12-08 02:38:58 PM

brigid_fitch: Corn_Fed: Shadowknight: Was pleasantly surprised to see that they didn't overdo the talking snowman thing.  I really thought he was going to be the quirky star, but he really only popped in for the occasional comic relief and got out of frame quickly enough to not mess up the story too much.

Why do people ALWAYS assume the "annoying sidekick" character will ruin the movie?  This seems to be a constant, never-changing trope every time an animated movie is about to be released. Seriously, I hear this every time a Pixar, Disney, or Dreamworks movie comes out. And then people are always "surprised" to discover that it wasn't true.

I realize it's mostly because the advertising/trailers of animated movies always tend to heavily emphasize the comic sidekick character, leading people to think the movie itself will over-use them. I guess I'm just surprised that the general public hasn't gotten hip to that misdirection yet.

Because most of us grew up during the era of cartoon sidekicks ruining shows/movies.  Fantastic Four cartoon had Herbie the robot, Superfriends had Wendy/Marvin/Wonder Twins, He-Man had Orko, Thundercats had Snarf, freakin' Jar-Jar Binks...need I go on?  Scene-stealing, useless sidekicks were the norm for decades.  I think only since Pixar proved you didn't need them did they finally stop showing up everywhere.


On the other hand the Minions in Despicable Me have been huge hits with audiences, so we could see other studios trying to replicate that success. They are the exception to the rule, as the Minions are awesome where most cute sidekicks are not.
 
2013-12-08 02:44:45 PM

brigid_fitch: Corn_Fed: Shadowknight: Was pleasantly surprised to see that they didn't overdo the talking snowman thing.  I really thought he was going to be the quirky star, but he really only popped in for the occasional comic relief and got out of frame quickly enough to not mess up the story too much.

Why do people ALWAYS assume the "annoying sidekick" character will ruin the movie?  This seems to be a constant, never-changing trope every time an animated movie is about to be released. Seriously, I hear this every time a Pixar, Disney, or Dreamworks movie comes out. And then people are always "surprised" to discover that it wasn't true.

I realize it's mostly because the advertising/trailers of animated movies always tend to heavily emphasize the comic sidekick character, leading people to think the movie itself will over-use them. I guess I'm just surprised that the general public hasn't gotten hip to that misdirection yet.

Because most of us grew up during the era of cartoon sidekicks ruining shows/movies.  Fantastic Four cartoon had Herbie the robot, Superfriends had Wendy/Marvin/Wonder Twins, He-Man had Orko, Thundercats had Snarf, freakin' Jar-Jar Binks...need I go on?  Scene-stealing, useless sidekicks were the norm for decades.  I think only since Pixar proved you didn't need them did they finally stop showing up everywhere.


Scrappy doo
 
2013-12-08 03:36:12 PM
Mr. Banks.
Walter Mitty.
Anchorman 2.
Hobbit 2.
Tis a good season for movie watching.
 
2013-12-08 04:21:07 PM

Mad_Radhu: On the other hand the Minions in Despicable Me have been huge hits with audiences, so we could see other studios trying to replicate that success. They are the exception to the rule, as the Minions are awesome where most cute sidekicks are not.


The minions was the only thing that carried the first movie.
 
2013-12-08 04:28:25 PM

gingerjet: Mad_Radhu: On the other hand the Minions in Despicable Me have been huge hits with audiences, so we could see other studios trying to replicate that success. They are the exception to the rule, as the Minions are awesome where most cute sidekicks are not.

The minions was the only thing that carried the first movie.


And the second, from what I've heard.
 
2013-12-08 04:41:06 PM
Out of the Furnace was...OK.

A very slow paced and quiet drama with extremely good performances all around.

Woody Harrelson was the best of them all.

3 out of 5.
 
2013-12-08 05:30:30 PM
I was frozen but then I found myself catching fire as I came out of the furnace.
 
2013-12-08 06:43:02 PM

Kirk's_Toupee: brigid_fitch: Corn_Fed: Shadowknight: Was pleasantly surprised to see that they didn't overdo the talking snowman thing.  I really thought he was going to be the quirky star, but he really only popped in for the occasional comic relief and got out of frame quickly enough to not mess up the story too much.

Why do people ALWAYS assume the "annoying sidekick" character will ruin the movie?  This seems to be a constant, never-changing trope every time an animated movie is about to be released. Seriously, I hear this every time a Pixar, Disney, or Dreamworks movie comes out. And then people are always "surprised" to discover that it wasn't true.

I realize it's mostly because the advertising/trailers of animated movies always tend to heavily emphasize the comic sidekick character, leading people to think the movie itself will over-use them. I guess I'm just surprised that the general public hasn't gotten hip to that misdirection yet.

Because most of us grew up during the era of cartoon sidekicks ruining shows/movies.  Fantastic Four cartoon had Herbie the robot, Superfriends had Wendy/Marvin/Wonder Twins, He-Man had Orko, Thundercats had Snarf, freakin' Jar-Jar Binks...need I go on?  Scene-stealing, useless sidekicks were the norm for decades.  I think only since Pixar proved you didn't need them did they finally stop showing up everywhere.

Scrappy doo


farking Scrappy Doo.
 
2013-12-08 10:46:31 PM

Zombie DJ: Mr. Banks.
Walter Mitty.
Anchorman 2.
Hobbit 2.
Tis a good season for movie watching.


I don't know what Mr. Banks is but there's no chance in hell I"m seeing those other 3. Saw previews for Walter Mitty today before Hunger Games. Ben Stiller should just stop making movies. There's nothing entertaining about what he does.

Anchorman, pretty much the same thing with Wil Ferrell, he can only play one character and it isn't funny in any way. The Hobbit movies are for children.
 
2013-12-08 11:00:20 PM
Here's something frozen catching fire.

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-12-08 11:18:22 PM

PsiChick: baconbeard: I saw "Frozen" last night. Far, far better than I was expecting.

I actually got curious enough about it to take my sister to see it today. Elsa looks like a good character. Have a feeling I'll identify far more with her than Anna, and it'll be interesting to see a character with some villain potential not being a villain.


Elsa is AWESOME. I normally hate sequels, but I wouldn't mind one focused on her adventures.
 
2013-12-08 11:22:28 PM

Twist2005: PsiChick: baconbeard: I saw "Frozen" last night. Far, far better than I was expecting.

I actually got curious enough about it to take my sister to see it today. Elsa looks like a good character. Have a feeling I'll identify far more with her than Anna, and it'll be interesting to see a character with some villain potential not being a villain.

Elsa is AWESOME. I normally hate sequels, but I wouldn't mind one focused on her adventures.


Just saw it. Can't decide if I like her or Anna better, but you definitely see her as a growing, maturing character. Let It Go is my new favorite song ever (until I figure out the music they played for the opening, anyway).
 
2013-12-08 11:36:17 PM

jmr61: Zombie DJ: Mr. Banks.
Walter Mitty.
Anchorman 2.
Hobbit 2.
Tis a good season for movie watching.

I don't know what Mr. Banks is but there's no chance in hell I"m seeing those other 3. Saw previews for Walter Mitty today before Hunger Games. Ben Stiller should just stop making movies. There's nothing entertaining about what he does.

Anchorman, pretty much the same thing with Wil Ferrell, he can only play one character and it isn't funny in any way. The Hobbit movies are for children.


Well, it's a good thing I'm not asking a typical Internet stereotype to go with and complain the whole time.
I go with people who just want to have fun and judge things AFTER we see them.
but, you know....I hope you have fun....um....NOT....seeing movies?
 
2013-12-08 11:36:35 PM

PsiChick: Twist2005: PsiChick: baconbeard: I saw "Frozen" last night. Far, far better than I was expecting.

I actually got curious enough about it to take my sister to see it today. Elsa looks like a good character. Have a feeling I'll identify far more with her than Anna, and it'll be interesting to see a character with some villain potential not being a villain.

Elsa is AWESOME. I normally hate sequels, but I wouldn't mind one focused on her adventures.

Just saw it. Can't decide if I like her or Anna better, but you definitely see her as a growing, maturing character. Let It Go is my new favorite song ever (until I figure out the music they played for the opening, anyway).


"Let It Go" is is fantastic! The opening song, Vuelie, is based on traditional Sami yoiking with a Danish carol mixed in.
 
2013-12-09 03:27:58 AM
Frozen was the worst thing I ever saw with a Disney stamp on it.  If you enjoyed it you should consider a career in film.
 
2013-12-09 06:35:02 AM

jmr61: Zombie DJ: Mr. Banks.
Walter Mitty.
Anchorman 2.
Hobbit 2.
Tis a good season for movie watching.

I don't know what Mr. Banks is but there's no chance in hell I"m seeing those other 3. Saw previews for Walter Mitty today before Hunger Games. Ben Stiller should just stop making movies. There's nothing entertaining about what he does.

Anchorman, pretty much the same thing with Wil Ferrell, he can only play one character and it isn't funny in any way. The Hobbit movies are for children.


Need a hug?
 
2013-12-09 07:05:37 AM
Saw Frozen with the family...pleasantly surprised. I cringed at the first song (I was not aware it was a musical), but most of the songs were catchy and backed up with amazing 3D animation. 7 out of 10

As for the gentleman above in utter disbelief that people track box office receipts...it's really pretty fun if you are interested in movies and the business behind them. I do tend to "root" for movies/directors that I want to succeed as well. There's a lot of intricacies to the biz - box office is just one stat. One incredible movie can spark new directions and opportunities for everyone involved in the production, directors get bigger projects, actors get bigger roles, effects companies the same.

Also, after a huge box office run, a director may get to finally make his/her "project" movie at last - something I've been wanting to see made for years perhaps. This is how some really amazing films get born. The whole process is a very strange ecosystem, and I check the movie insider news every Monday morning over my coffee. I'm also really up to date on upcoming films and usually know about projects I'm interested in before they have even entered pre-production!
 
2013-12-09 07:13:28 AM
Glad Thor 2 did well.  I want to see the Marvel movies roll on.  Pretty excited to see Hobbit 2.  Hopefully it will be edited better than the first.

Personally I'm stunned both Thor movies did so well.  I never thought Marvel could make the character so appealing to the general American audience.  Guess that's why I'm not in show biz.
 
2013-12-09 07:43:49 AM

Optimus Primate: As for the gentleman above in utter disbelief that people track box office receipts...it's really pretty fun if you are interested in movies and the business behind them.


You may want to give the Hollywood Stock Exchange a look, then.  I used to do this back in the late 90s, when I was a teenager working in a movie theater, and it's quite addicting.  They give you $2 mil in fake money and you buy "stock" in actors, directors, production companies, or movies themselves.  Sell, trade, whatever.  It's all the fun of day trading with... Well, day trading wasn't that fun either.  But this can actually be a kick.

I don't know what algorithms or metrics they use to determine the worth of a stock, besides the demand for it, but it's actually kind of fun.  And the top performers used to get prizes, like merchandise or props from the movies.  Don't know if they do any of that now, as it's been a few years since I looked at the site, but it was an amusing diversion in High School.
 
2013-12-09 09:18:35 AM

StopLurkListen: "Frozen" was named that because of all of the refrigerator logic.

[www.rotoscopers.com image 600x400]


It really is an incoherent mess. I never made it past the premise (suspension of disbelief-wise). I mean why wipe the girl's memory of her sisters gift? It serves no logical purpose save to drive the plot of separation. Once she re-learns what's been forgotten it has absolutely no side-effect on her, thus making the magic that caused it a silly and unnecessary plot-point. This gnawed at the back of my mind for the rest of the film.
 
2013-12-09 09:36:17 AM

proteon: Frozen was the worst thing I ever saw with a Disney stamp on it.  If you enjoyed it you should consider a career in film.


Hey, that guy is here!

/Don't be that guy.
 
2013-12-09 10:12:24 AM

Twist2005: PsiChick: baconbeard: I saw "Frozen" last night. Far, far better than I was expecting.

I actually got curious enough about it to take my sister to see it today. Elsa looks like a good character. Have a feeling I'll identify far more with her than Anna, and it'll be interesting to see a character with some villain potential not being a villain.

Elsa is AWESOME. I normally hate sequels, but I wouldn't mind one focused on her adventures.


IMO Frozen spent too much time with Anna.  Elsa should have been the star of this show.  She's the McGuffin for the plot and it's her transformation that drives the entire story.  We've had our fill of plucky princesses on a Hero's Journey, complete with hunky love interest and goofy sidekick.  Elsa was something unique for a kid's movie.  I liked Frozen but in the end it couldn't decide if it wanted to be Beauty and the Beast or Wicked.
 
2013-12-09 01:02:38 PM

doczoidberg: Out of the Furnace was...OK.

A very slow paced and quiet drama with extremely good performances all around.

Woody Harrelson was the best of them all.

3 out of 5.


Good info, thanks.  I'll wait for the cable release.
(big screen for action and effects, everything else at home)
 
2013-12-09 01:29:44 PM
Took my boy (turning 5 this month) to Frozen this weekend in 3-d. Good story, nice take on the Hans Christian Anderson story. More singing than I would like. Everytime a song a came on my son sank into his chair and let out a big sigh but also laughed quite a bit. He was also upset they didn't have the scene where the moose dragged his butt along the ice. I was too. 3-d animation was awesome.

lots of good grown up movies coming soon too.

/mitty
/anchorman 2
/american hustle
/wolf of wall street (my mother said she wants to see this movie with me for her christmas present. Going to have to tell her we'll need to find something else. Some graphic sex scenes in that movie that I am not wanting to watch with my mom)
 
2013-12-09 01:57:32 PM

Twist2005: PsiChick: Twist2005: PsiChick: baconbeard: I saw "Frozen" last night. Far, far better than I was expecting.

I actually got curious enough about it to take my sister to see it today. Elsa looks like a good character. Have a feeling I'll identify far more with her than Anna, and it'll be interesting to see a character with some villain potential not being a villain.

Elsa is AWESOME. I normally hate sequels, but I wouldn't mind one focused on her adventures.

Just saw it. Can't decide if I like her or Anna better, but you definitely see her as a growing, maturing character. Let It Go is my new favorite song ever (until I figure out the music they played for the opening, anyway).

"Let It Go" is is fantastic! The opening song, Vuelie, is based on traditional Sami yoiking with a Danish carol mixed in.


Oooh, thanks.
 
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