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(Washington Times)   Dick Cheney family feud between daughters over gay marriage has been 'dealt with'. Pray he does not alter the deal any further   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 148
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2013-12-08 12:13:24 AM
Did Dick shoot someone in the face?
 
2013-12-08 12:33:36 AM

Bucky Katt: Did Dick shoot someone in the face?


I don't know that he didn't but it sure seems that if he did it was the lesbian or her wife from the tone of his comments in the article.
 
2013-12-08 01:24:25 AM
"We were surprised that there was an attack launched against Liz on Facebook and wished it hadnt happened".


No, You shait stain of a human being. The attack was launched by the teaparty daughter that said her Sister's marriage and the children they have in their family are worthless and second class citizens; all while pretending to enjoy 'family' and stabbing her sister (And her children) in the back.

The words of the lesbian daughter aren't an attack they are defense, the attack was the launched by Liz you farken waste of human hearts.
 
2013-12-08 06:05:32 AM
The spat between Mr. Cheney's two daughters flared up last month after Liz defended herself on Fox News Sunday against allegations that she supported same-sex marriage, saying she supported traditional marriage.

"defended" herself? WTF?


"We heard that you think all people are equal. Is this true?"

"whoa! enough with the personal attacks mister!"
 
2013-12-08 07:11:17 AM
sigh
political dancing is all

now you can have cheney lite
or you can have cheney heavy
or you can have a cheney that supports your imagination in some other way

what you will actually get is
a cheney

 
2013-12-08 07:16:20 AM
This is the guy who voted against opposing apartheid.

I guess the gay daughter can sit at the kid's table during Thanksgiving and leave through the servant entrance.
 
2013-12-08 07:38:55 AM
It's kind of weird to see ol' Dick actually acting like a human being.  It seems to pretty much only come out on this particular issue.  Like, his daughter came out, and he suddenly very carefully kept away from the subject of gay anything.  Now his other daughter is running for political office, and he's trying to word his answers very carefully to sound supportive and preserve her base without actually saying anything against his gay daughter.

// Or state definitively his own position, which actually seems to be that he's pretty much in favor of gay folk doing what they please because he doesn't give a shiat.  Cheney was always on the realpolitik/preserve the money end of the GOP, according to most of the biographies that was the source of most of the conflicts between him and Bush, who was more religious-GOP.
 
2013-12-08 08:19:26 AM

coeyagi: This is the guy who voted against opposing apartheid.

I guess the gay daughter can sit at the kid's table during Thanksgiving and leave through the servant entrance.


My guess is he has no moral basement. If society would let him I could see him being transported on a sedan chair carried by black guys crawling on their hands and knees.
 
2013-12-08 08:21:49 AM
Dick Cheny: "We are disappointed our lesbian daughter decided to criticize our gay-hating daughter for basically saying her entire existence is immoral.  Politics trumps love, acceptance, and basic human decency, and our lesbo kid should have the good sense to know that"

/essentially what he said
 
2013-12-08 08:39:17 AM
When politics are used to subjugate and demean citizens based on their private consensual activities this kind of hypocrisy seems inevitable.
 
2013-12-08 08:42:06 AM
I feel a story coming on - a twisted, surreal modernization of King Lear.
 
2013-12-08 08:42:41 AM
The desire to treat others as second-class really doesn't deserve the same consideration as the desire to be treated equally.

Really. It really doesn't. No, really. I'm serious.
 
2013-12-08 08:45:10 AM
What bs.  My wife and I are from different races. If any of my siblings had a problem with that, I would have told them to fark off.  If my parents said, "Well, golly, your sibling has always been against interracial marriage, and they still love and respect you and your children," they'd get the boot as well.  Good for the gay Cheney for speaking up and confronting her sister and parents for their shameful behavior.
 
2013-12-08 08:45:52 AM
Christ, what an enormous asshole.
 
2013-12-08 08:47:48 AM

medieval: Christ, what an enormous asshole.


I think that's been well and truly established during the past 13 years or so.
 
2013-12-08 08:58:09 AM

Smoking GNU: medieval: Christ, what an enormous asshole.

I think that's been well and truly established during the past 13 years or so.


And his was the hand up the ass of that worthless, rich bum we put in the White House for 8 miserable, catastrophic years.
He stands with Anton Scalia as being one of the two worst living Americans.
 
2013-12-08 09:11:13 AM
This is an issue we have dealt with privately for many years, and we are pained to see it become public. Since it has, one thing should be clear. Liz has always believed in the traditional definition of marriage," the vice president and his wife said in a statement on Monday. "She has also always treated her sister and her sister's family with love and respect, exactly as she should have done. Compassion is called for, even when there is disagreement about such a fundamental matter and Liz's many kindnesses shouldn't be used to distort her position."

Does not compute.
 
2013-12-08 09:15:11 AM

Bucky Katt: Did Dick shoot someone in the face?


The question is not whether Dick Cheney shot someone in the face again--because he did. The question is whether his victim was forced to apologize.

/I put it to you. Isn't this an indictment of the entire Dick Cheney way of life? Well, I for one will not sit here and listen to you bad mouth the sadistic greed-fed zombie that is Dick Cheney. Gentlemen!
 
2013-12-08 09:16:03 AM

PanicMan: This is an issue we have dealt with privately for many years, and we are pained to see it become public. Since it has, one thing should be clear. Liz has always believed in the traditional definition of marriage," the vice president and his wife said in a statement on Monday. "She has also always treated her sister and her sister's family with love and respect, exactly as she should have done. Compassion is called for, even when there is disagreement about such a fundamental matter and Liz's many kindnesses shouldn't be used to distort her position."

Does not compute.


Actually, it computes as well as Mary being a gay republican.
 
2013-12-08 09:22:31 AM
Which daughter is the Cheney organ heart donor again?
 
2013-12-08 09:25:12 AM
This is the one issue I used to respect Dick Cheney on, because he had always been admirably pro-gay rights. So much for that.

"I love Mary very much, I love her family very much. This is just an issue on which we disagree," Liz said.

No, this is just an issue on which you (for the sake of winning votes profess to) think she's acting immorally, and you (for the sake of winning votes profess to) believe her loving, committed relationship is morally invalid.
 
2013-12-08 09:33:02 AM
As much fun as another Christmas with the Cheneys story would be, why the hell do people still give any weight to the words of this friend-shooting, ear-mongering, war criminal/profiteer?
 
2013-12-08 09:33:04 AM
FTFA: "We were surprised that there was an attack launched against Liz on Facebook and wished it hadn't happened," Mr. Cheney said at the National Press Club, ABC News reported. "It's always been dealt with within the context of the family and frankly that's our preference."

That is the part conservatives do not seem to "get". Whether it is marriage, abortion, contraception, etc., the people who disagree with conservatives do not want to force conservatives to succumb to their ways. They just want to deal with the decisions within the context of their family also, and have all viable options available.
 
2013-12-08 09:34:26 AM
Its a good thing Dick Cheney didn't let a little old thing like family get in the way of political talking points.  That might've started to make him look like a partially decent human being.
 
2013-12-08 09:41:29 AM

Bucky Katt: Did Dick shoot someone in the face?


I've always been curious, how was he not arrested for that?  Even if the other person doesn't press charges, I would assume it's somewhat illegal to shoot someone in the face.
 
2013-12-08 09:46:14 AM
Where did he say that?
Where did he even express an opinion on the matter?

Basically what liberals are about these is hurling abuse at anyone with a different opinion. Its not about winning the argument, its about destroying the opposition because you are right. And Democrats uber alles.

I think gay marriage should be allowed. I also think people who think it should be decided by the states are right. I voted to allow it in my state, I would vote against it at the federal level. But regardless, internet trash talk like this actually makes it less likely either way.
 
2013-12-08 09:47:27 AM
I am sick - to grim death - of the Cheneys.

Don't particularly give a fark about his daughter's personal life. Don't particularly think the infighting is news-worthy. That Cheney and that crooked biatch he's married to are not in a federal prison is revolting to me.

The damage this asshole has done is overwhelming. They want to air their dirty laundry? I saw fark them all up the arses with fiery pitchforks.
 
2013-12-08 09:48:37 AM

heavymetal: FTFA: "We were surprised that there was an attack launched against Liz on Facebook and wished it hadn't happened," Mr. Cheney said at the National Press Club, ABC News reported. "It's always been dealt with within the context of the family and frankly that's our preference."

That is the part conservatives do not seem to "get". Whether it is marriage, abortion, contraception, etc., the people who disagree with conservatives do not want to force conservatives to succumb to their ways. They just want to deal with the decisions within the context of their family also, and have all viable options available.


You want to force religious people to fund oral contraceptives and the morning after pill. You will never get conservatives to agree that is health care they should pay for. Period.
 
2013-12-08 09:54:59 AM

Animatronik: heavymetal: FTFA: "We were surprised that there was an attack launched against Liz on Facebook and wished it hadn't happened," Mr. Cheney said at the National Press Club, ABC News reported. "It's always been dealt with within the context of the family and frankly that's our preference."

That is the part conservatives do not seem to "get". Whether it is marriage, abortion, contraception, etc., the people who disagree with conservatives do not want to force conservatives to succumb to their ways. They just want to deal with the decisions within the context of their family also, and have all viable options available.

You want to force religious people to fund oral contraceptives and the morning after pill. You will never get conservatives to agree that is health care they should pay for. Period.


No. We require businesses to provide insurance that covers contraception. A business does not have a religion, even if its owner does.
 
2013-12-08 09:58:26 AM

Bucky Katt: Did Dick shoot someone in the face?


Can't spend one day on the internet without someone bringing up bukkake
 
2013-12-08 10:00:40 AM

Jim_Callahan: It's kind of weird to see ol' Dick actually acting like a human being.  It seems to pretty much only come out on this particular issue.  Like, his daughter came out, and he suddenly very carefully kept away from the subject of gay anything.  Now his other daughter is running for political office, and he's trying to word his answers very carefully to sound supportive and preserve her base without actually saying anything against his gay daughter.

// Or state definitively his own position, which actually seems to be that he's pretty much in favor of gay folk doing what they please because he doesn't give a shiat.  Cheney was always on the realpolitik/preserve the money end of the GOP, according to most of the biographies that was the source of most of the conflicts between him and Bush, who was more religious-GOP.


Oh, Dick cares about his family. It's everyone else in the world who is expendable.
 
2013-12-08 10:02:08 AM
The main problem with America is the extremists that think opinions are just opinions. They believe that one can't have a wrong opinion and that all opinions should be treated equally in the national discourse.
 
2013-12-08 10:02:44 AM

You Are All Sheep: Bucky Katt: Did Dick shoot someone in the face?

I've always been curious, how was he not arrested for that?  Even if the other person doesn't press charges, I would assume it's somewhat illegal to shoot someone in the face.


They guy he shot actually went on television and apologized for getting in the way. Not kidding.
 
2013-12-08 10:06:38 AM
Dick Cheney is a non violent Psychopath.
 
2013-12-08 10:07:24 AM

Linux_Yes: Dick Cheney is a non violent Psychopath.



contrary to the TV machine, most Psychopaths are not violent.
 
2013-12-08 10:07:41 AM

Animatronik: You want to force religious people to fund oral contraceptives and the morning after pill. You will never get conservatives to agree that is health care they should pay for. Period.


If companies don't want to provide insurance that covers both women's and men's health issues, they don't have to provide insurance at all.  They can drop their insurance and tell the employees to buy insurance on the exchange.

I don't see any reason to change the law for them.
 
2013-12-08 10:11:41 AM

Animatronik: ou want to force religious people to fund oral contraceptives and the morning after pill. You will never get conservatives to agree that is health care they should pay for. Period


No one (ok, hardly anyone, there may be some people out on the lunatic fringe) is advocating that religious people should be forced to fund contraceptives for themselves or for anyone else. All that is being required is that businesses provide insurance that includes contraceptives. The businesses can still charge their employees 100% of the premiums if they so choose.
 
2013-12-08 10:13:16 AM
In a few days it won't matter.  Liz Cheney will get smoked in the election and will retreat back to a lucrative career being a paid pundit for Fox News.  The Cheneys will go on being the same dysfunctional family as before.  Marriage equality will continue to find acceptance throughout the country.  In 5-10 years, everybody will wonder why this was even an issue.
 
2013-12-08 10:20:14 AM
FTFA "Since it has, one thing should be clear. Liz has always believed in the traditional definition of marriage," the vice president and his wife said in a statement on Monday. "She has also always treated her sister and her sister's family with love and respect, exactly as she should have done."

"I love and respect them, but my sky fairy tells me they're going to hell and I think they should be treated as second class citizens because of it.  What?  That's love and respect, right?  Hey, I love my cat, but I don't think she should vote!  WTF guys, why is everyone so mad at me?  Stop with the personal attacks!"
 
2013-12-08 10:21:36 AM
liz is a carpetbagger and the folks in her "home" state know it. with any luck her sorry ass will be beaten so badly in the election she leaves there never to return. and to never have a role in elective politics again.
 
2013-12-08 10:23:19 AM
Dick Cheney is the worst American in generations.

He is responsible for killing more Americans than Osama bin Laden, as well as tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people overseas.

Liz shows all the signs of having her father's psychopathic shamelessness. I look forward to her losing this primary. Too bad she won't learn anything from it.
 
2013-12-08 10:25:01 AM
Let's get to the point:

"Dealt with" means, like in any rich family, "if you don't shut up about your lesbianism, we're cutting you out of the will, and cutting you away from the money."

It's a classic way for the upper classes to rein in their kids, no matter how old they are.
 
2013-12-08 10:28:25 AM

Phil Moskowitz: coeyagi: This is the guy who voted against opposing apartheid.

I guess the gay daughter can sit at the kid's table during Thanksgiving and leave through the servant entrance.

My guess is he has no moral basement. If society would let him I could see him being transported on a sedan chair carried by black guys crawling on their hands and knees.


He would have fit in well in Ancient Rome (late-Republic or early Empire), or Renaissance Italy....

/ even people like Livia would be a bit scared, IMHO..
 
2013-12-08 10:29:24 AM

yohohogreengiant: When politics are used to subjugate and demean citizens based on their private consensual activities this kind of hypocrisy seems inevitable.


Yet this is the reason politics was called into existence; to create difference and 'correct' it by force.
 
2013-12-08 10:30:27 AM

Close2TheEdge: In a few days it won't matter.  Liz Cheney will get smoked in the election


the primary isn't until next august but so far the polling is heavily against her.
 
2013-12-08 10:37:07 AM
One of these days, I'm going to come up with a gun mount for badgers. Train the feisty little bastards to use it, and send them out into the wild during hunting season.
 
2013-12-08 10:47:38 AM

LectertheChef: One of these days, I'm going to come up with a gun mount for badgers. Train the feisty little bastards to use it, and send them out into the wild during hunting season.


If you do that, I'm going to design dachshund body armor, and train the tenacious little bastards to wear it.  Now witness the firepower of this fully armored and operational wiener dog!
 
2013-12-08 10:50:17 AM

The Larch: LectertheChef: One of these days, I'm going to come up with a gun mount for badgers. Train the feisty little bastards to use it, and send them out into the wild during hunting season.

If you do that, I'm going to design dachshund body armor, and train the tenacious little bastards to wear it.  Now witness the firepower of this fully armored and operational wiener dog!


Then I'll just mount flamethrowers on rabbits, train the horny little bastards to use them, and send them after your daschunds.
 
2013-12-08 10:55:20 AM

LectertheChef: The Larch: LectertheChef: One of these days, I'm going to come up with a gun mount for badgers. Train the feisty little bastards to use it, and send them out into the wild during hunting season.

If you do that, I'm going to design dachshund body armor, and train the tenacious little bastards to wear it.  Now witness the firepower of this fully armored and operational wiener dog!

Then I'll just mount flamethrowers on rabbits, train the horny little bastards to use them, and send them after your daschunds.


Two words: fireproof ocelot
 
2013-12-08 10:55:54 AM

Phil Moskowitz: coeyagi: This is the guy who voted against opposing apartheid.

I guess the gay daughter can sit at the kid's table during Thanksgiving and leave through the servant entrance.

My guess is he has no moral basement. If society would let him I could see him being transported on a sedan chair carried by black guys crawling on their hands and knees.


I think Cheney is amoral in a far more dangerous way.  I saw the last major interview of him.  He seems like a genuinely humble, straightforward guy . . . who would cross any line to do what was needed; and there is so much in this dangerous world that is needed.

So, if given ultimate power, you'd have a guy who would have a quaint ranch in Wyoming, Texas, or DC - large but not noticeably so - who'd celebrate Thanksgiving with the family, do his own shopping, mow his lawn on weekends, go hunting with his friends, nuke non-compliant countries, herd dissidents into extermination camps, assassinate political foes, burn whole villages just to send a message, watch the game with his buddies at the local pub, and maybe coach a little league team.
 
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