Duke_leto_Atredes: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: A school is only as good as the parents of the students who go there. Thanks to compulsory education, public schools are flooded with accidental children who have absentee parents. There isn't anything special about a private school except they typically self-select for interested, present parents who take an involvement in their child's education.Public schools in low income areas are day care centers for the great unwashed I and my wife as well as the grand parents help out in the school. In the class with the homework after school in sports by not reliving any fails jock dreams through my kids. And finally two words " learn English" not Spanglish or Ebonics
Selena Luna: Duke_leto_Atredes: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: A school is only as good as the parents of the students who go there. Thanks to compulsory education, public schools are flooded with accidental children who have absentee parents. There isn't anything special about a private school except they typically self-select for interested, present parents who take an involvement in their child's education.Public schools in low income areas are day care centers for the great unwashed I and my wife as well as the grand parents help out in the school. In the class with the homework after school in sports by not reliving any fails jock dreams through my kids. And finally two words " learn English" not Spanglish or EbonicsYou're telling them to learn English with the single most garbled sentence I've ever seen.
BojanglesPaladin: It seems that some Farkers seem to be willing to knowingly prevent their children from getting the best possible education if doing so meant they might be exposed to the jeebus.Which is exactly the same mis-prioritization that leads some parents to pull their kids out of public school and knowingly prevent their children from getting the best possible education if doing so meant they might be exposed to the soshilizm.
jst3p: There is a guy who comes to work with the ashes on his forehead every year. Isn't that the opposite of the whole 'pray quietly' thing?
legion_of_doo: jst3p: There is a guy who comes to work with the ashes on his forehead every year. Isn't that the opposite of the whole 'pray quietly' thing?There's also a thing in the apocryphal Acts of the Apostles about Jeebus telling the Apostles not to hide themselves away for fear of persecution.
HammerHeadSnark: rkiller1: THIS. At my son's private, secular school, if you behave perfectly but have a C-average, they will ask you to leave.That's about as nonsensical as anything I've ever heard. A "C average student" is an average student. Average. A mostly equal number of students are above and below the C students.
Lsherm: Frederick: Some Coke Drinking Guy: Although, I suspect a lot of this has less to do with public schools being truly bad, then them being perceived that way, because of how the student body appears.Perception is often times more persuasive than reality. Education is always what the student makes of it. I think the choice is one of a false sense of security for the parents.No, some public schools just really suck ass. Since they're funded primarily by local property taxes, if you live in a shiatty part of town the schools are going to be shiatty as well. High teacher turnover, lack of resources, and a hostile environment to learning might be the norm. In that case, a private school, even a religious one, is preferable.I went to Jesuit schools K-12 and they were on par with the public schools in the area, if not a little better because they didn't have to put up with behavioral problem students. But if you're in a truly shiatty district? That difference might be very significant.
Occam's Disposable Razor: FizixJunkee: ChewbaccaJones: I am one of them.It is only preschool; but it is 1/4th the cost, and while I understand the "You get what you pay for" arguments...the fact is, they do an adequate job at that level. I am fine with a few Jesus coloring projects if it means my kids learn numbers and the alphabet without having to pay through the nose for it.Not us. We had our daughter in an after-school program hosted at a nearby church for all of two weeks. We were assured that there wouldn't be any Christianity or Bible lessons taught to the after-school kids; just straightforward secular academics, homework help, etc.. However, in that short amount of time, our daughter had learned [something] about The Devil, Jesus, and God (topics we've never once discussed at home).We were pissed.We forfeited 1.5 months of tuition to get her out of there after those two weeks, and we'll never send her back.No amount of $avings is worth that bullshiat. I'd much rather pay top dollar for a real secular education.It's not so dangerous. Catholic school is responsible for more atheists than you can imagine. My 4 year old told me the other day that when we die, "God fixes everything up so we can always be happy." Wtf do I tell him? "Nah, grandma's corpse is rotting, and her existence is over, as will all of ours be soon."He can have the comfortable lie for now. Smart boy, he'll see through it soon enough. Or he won't, but it won't be because of what some teacher said.
Shakin_Haitian: Because everyone has the same access to private schools? Maybe in your communist fantasies.
JuggleGeek: No mention of the Catholics history of molesting children and helping to cover it up? I must say, I'm surprised. If I were trying to make the decision on where to send my kids, that would be a consideration.
gfid: You think that shiat doesn't go on in public schools?
JuggleGeek: I think if they get caught in a catholic school, they probably just get moved to another school. And the fact that they know it will be tolerated and the church will help cover it up encourages some to go for it, because there is less risk when getting caught means "move to another town" not "lose your job and go to jail".
BojanglesPaladin: It's important to note that many of the cases that have blackened the reputation of the Catholic Church were incidents that largely happened many decades ago, and it's hard to argue that this sort of thing is CURRENTLY tolerated.
BojanglesPaladin: Shakin_Haitian: Because everyone has the same access to private schools? Maybe in your communist fantasies.I did not claim that everyone has the same access to private schools, now did I?It would seem to be obvious that my comment is directed at parents who COULD put their kids in an exceptional private or public school, but DON'T for no other reason that their fear of indoctrination. Whatever that fear is. If you think so little of your own children that you think they will be brainwashed against your parenting, then you probably don't do much parenting, and you probably aren't all that concerned about the quality of their education anyway.Oh. And Also, if you WANT it, you can put your kids in private school. Most Catholic schools will adjust tuition based on need, but you have to ask and you have to persuade them. My parents put 3 kids through private grade school on state worker incomes. Not easy. It meant we didn't get any new clothes except on Christmas and birthdays, it mean driving old junkers, it meant no vacations, and eating out once a month, maybe if it was a special event. No cable TV, not even call waiting on the home phone. Bag lunches and patched jeans. They had to drive us two towns over every morning and every evening before and after their work.It wasn't until I was older that I realized that wasn't the norm. And when I was much older, I realized that we weren't unique. A LOT of parents are willing to fight and scrimp and save and do whatever they have to to give their kids a leg up on their future. It's just not the norm.They kept themselves in poverty for a decade to give us a quality education. They did without for themselves for ten years. So yeah, everyone CAN do that. But most won't.
Shakin_Haitian: Of course your parents could afford to keep you in private school with that fat government paycheck. Must be nice for them not having to work so they could drive you to school because of the government unions
Some Coke Drinking Guy: I can always tell Johnny his teachers are full of crap when they talk about Noah's Ark, because what kid doesn't love hearing that his teacher is wrong?
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