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(Independent Journal Review)   Let's ask some college students and see how many of them have actually signed up for Obamacare. Bonus quote of the day: "I thought Obamacare was supposed to be, like, free"   (ijreview.com) divider line 179
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2013-12-07 03:34:42 PM
Aren't college students by and large covered by their parents' insurance?

Good going, failmitter/pj media
 
2013-12-07 03:44:06 PM

sprgrss: Aren't college students by and large covered by their parents' insurance?


What he said. You're covered by your parents until age 25.
 
2013-12-07 03:46:28 PM
Wouldn't the typical college student be on their parents plan until they are 26 or get their own damn job? If that's not the case because your parents are dead, strung out on meth or whatever you are probably going to get the subsidies that make it free.

Now that the website issues are getting resolved the right is getting really desperate for talking points. I don't think this is going to be the midterm election issue they were hoping for. In fact any political capitol they may have gained in the last month or 2 is going to get thrown away next month when they shut the government down again.

Please proceed teatards
 
2013-12-07 03:51:53 PM
Wow.  Out of all the universities in DC that they went to try this stunt, they went to Howard, the historically black college.

Gee, I wonder why?
 
2013-12-07 03:56:36 PM
You don't sign up for Obamacare. You shop for affordable health care under the new PPACA law that says the insurance companies can't be dicks to you any more.
 
2013-12-07 03:58:26 PM

Rincewind53: Wow.  Out of all the universities in DC that they went to try this stunt, they went to Howard, the historically black college.

Gee, I wonder why?


Are you saying black people are dumb? White people can't be morons, too?

Listen, I know the point you were making. I understand it. But Jesus, dude, stop seeing boogeymen everywhere.
 
2013-12-07 04:06:23 PM

Di Atribe: You don't sign up for Obamacare. You shop for affordable health care under the new PPACA law that says the insurance companies can't be dicks to you any more.


This. You can always identify the Teabagger GOP retards because they will come out with some crap about  congress or a union not being covered by Obamacare.
 
2013-12-07 04:08:41 PM

cman: Are you saying black people are dumb? White people can't be morons, too?

Listen, I know the point you were making. I understand it. But Jesus, dude, stop seeing boogeymen everywhere.


Really?

D.C. has  ten separate undergraduate universities, as well as more than a dozen post-graduate schools or other types of schools.  Howard is the only one of them other than UDC which has a majority black population.

When a segment producer wants to do a segment like this, they have to choose which school to go to. Howard is likely not the closest one, since I'd find it odd if PJTV has a studio over near it. GW or Georgetown were likely much closer, considering where most production studios in the city are (with the exception of BET which is in NE). Thus, they had to choose which of the 10 schools to go to.

I find it highly unlikely that they didn't choose Howard because it would falsely illustrate to their viewers how "Obama voters" (read: black people) are ignorant about the health care bill.
 
2013-12-07 04:10:44 PM

Rincewind53: cman: Are you saying black people are dumb? White people can't be morons, too?

Listen, I know the point you were making. I understand it. But Jesus, dude, stop seeing boogeymen everywhere.

Really?

D.C. has  ten separate undergraduate universities, as well as more than a dozen post-graduate schools or other types of schools.  Howard is the only one of them other than UDC which has a majority black population.

When a segment producer wants to do a segment like this, they have to choose which school to go to. Howard is likely not the closest one, since I'd find it odd if PJTV has a studio over near it. GW or Georgetown were likely much closer, considering where most production studios in the city are (with the exception of BET which is in NE). Thus, they had to choose which of the 10 schools to go to.

I find it highly unlikely that they didn't choose Howard because it would falsely illustrate to their viewers how "Obama voters" (read: black people) are ignorant about the health care bill.


Its possible. I ain't saying its not.
 
2013-12-07 04:12:21 PM

cman: Its possible. I ain't saying its not.


Yeah. If this was coming from anything other than Pajamas Media I would never have made the connection, to be totally honest.
 
2013-12-07 04:25:08 PM
Subby making fun of someone for not knowing what they're talking about while not knowing what he/she is talking about. And of course it's a PJ link. Go figure
 
2013-12-07 04:37:10 PM
If you live on campus, chances are you have to provide proof of insurance, either your parents, a university plan, or (sometimes) Medicaid.  Colleges don't want to admit people who are going to drop out if they get sick because they don't have health insurance, it messes with their graduation rates.
 
2013-12-07 04:41:25 PM
PJTV content disguised with a tag of something other than Pajama Media.   If you're going to link to right wing extremist propaganda, at least have the courage of your convictions.

Fark you subby for disguising your source, and fark you modmins for greening it.
 
2013-12-07 04:44:28 PM
Of course it's free. Conservatives keep bleating that people voted for Obama for free health care. Fox keeps saying it's free and people started to believe it.
 
2013-12-07 04:48:47 PM
As a college student who enrolls other college students, I'm really getting a kick...
 
2013-12-07 04:53:33 PM

edmo: Of course it's free. Conservatives keep bleating that people voted for Obama for free health care. Fox keeps saying it's free and people started to believe it.


Well we all know how popular Fox News is with college liberals.
 
2013-12-07 04:54:59 PM
NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.
 
2013-12-07 04:56:46 PM

bigsteve3OOO: Men must fund women's health.


And women must fund men's. That's how risk pools work.

Funny that. Of all the people complaining, it's always "I have to pay for a woman's BC!"

It's never "A woman has to pay for my prostate exams!"
 
2013-12-07 04:57:33 PM
Stupid free Medicaid & Medicare is stupid!
 
2013-12-07 04:58:49 PM

edmo: Of course it's free. Conservatives keep bleating that people voted for Obama for free health care. Fox keeps saying it's free and people started to believe it.


"Get a load of all these suckers that believed our lies"
 
2013-12-07 05:00:00 PM

bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.



Nobody needs health insurance until they get sick or injured.  If we let people buy health insurance after they get sick or injured and then drop it after they get well, the insurance companies will lose money.

Do you hate the free market?  Do you think that insurance companies should not be allowed to make money?  Because it sounds to me like you're advocating for socialism.
 
2013-12-07 05:02:22 PM

sprgrss: Aren't college students by and large covered by their parents' insurance?

Good going, failmitter/pj media


Only those who have parents. And only if one or more of those parents have insurance.

Poor orphans excluded. Poor little orphans.
 
2013-12-07 05:02:41 PM
Does Howard have a group plan for students?
 
2013-12-07 05:03:18 PM

Mrbogey: edmo: Of course it's free. Conservatives keep bleating that people voted for Obama for free health care. Fox keeps saying it's free and people started to believe it.

Well we all know how popular Fox News is with college liberals.


It's almost as if our media isn't left leaning at all.
 
2013-12-07 05:05:08 PM

bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.


Or, you know, until they:
 get hit by a car
 break a leg slipping on ice
 get hit by a bus
 get hit by falling airplane parts
 get hit by an elephant that escaped from the zoo
 get hit by a helicopter falling on a pub where they're drinking (8 killed in Glasgow after that one)
 get shot in a drug deal gone wrong
 get shot in a drug deal gone wrong that they had nothing to do with but got caught in the crossfire
 get shot by the police
 get shot by a fellow student
 shoot themselves by accident,
 get pneumonia
 develop PCOS
 get cancer
 come down with strep throat
 get chlamydia
 get syphillis
 get AIDS
 get gonorrhea
 get pregnant
 accidentally lose a toy car up their ass
 accidentally lose a condom up their vag
 have a condom break and need Plan B
 have a condom break and need an abortion
 get West Nile Virus
 get MRSA
 get drug-resistant tuberculosis after travelling abroad in their junior year
 get kneed in the balls by an ex-girlfriend which leads to testicular torsion
 get beaten up by an ex-boyfriend
 get beaten up by a current boyfriend or girlfriend
 fall over while riding a bike
 get doored while riding a bike
 get hit by a car while riding a bike
 get into an accident while driving a car
 break an ankle while skydiving
 break a wrist while boxing
 break a femur while climbing rock walls
 sprain an ankle badly while training for a marathon
 pull a tendon while exercising
 or just have their body spontaneously decide to fail on them.

So, you know, I guess healthy young people never need health care at all!

Or maybe I read your post wrong and you meant that young people  should be funding this and the stupid was at them for  not getting insurance. In which case, well, it was really fun typing out a few dozen ways that you could get hurt as a healthy young person.
 
2013-12-07 05:05:43 PM

FloydA: bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.


Nobody needs health insurance until they get sick or injured.  If we let people buy health insurance after they get sick or injured and then drop it after they get well, the insurance companies will lose money.

Do you hate the free market?  Do you think that insurance companies should not be allowed to make money?  Because it sounds to me like you're advocating for socialism.


Its not free if you are forced by law to participate.
 
2013-12-07 05:07:22 PM
And if you got to Wal-Mart in a rural town and ask ACA questions you'll get hilarious answers as well
 
2013-12-07 05:09:37 PM

bigsteve3OOO: Its not free if you are forced by law to participate.


Every human being on the planet participates in the health care market. Shifting that to the health insurance market just makes costs more even for everyone, especially because we the taxpayers have to pay for people who have to use the emergency room for primary care.

And American GDP is decreased when healthy workers lose their ability to work due to preventable illnesses and injuries that go untreated because the worker doesn't have health insurance.

Why do you hate the American economy?
 
2013-12-07 05:09:41 PM

Rincewind53: bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.

Or, you know, until they:
 get hit by a car
 break a leg slipping on ice
 get hit by a bus
 get hit by falling airplane parts
 get hit by an elephant that escaped from the zoo
 get hit by a helicopter falling on a pub where they're drinking (8 killed in Glasgow after that one)
 get shot in a drug deal gone wrong
 get shot in a drug deal gone wrong that they had nothing to do with but got caught in the crossfire
 get shot by the police
 get shot by a fellow student
 shoot themselves by accident,
 get pneumonia
 develop PCOS
 get cancer
 come down with strep throat
 get chlamydia
 get syphillis
 get AIDS
 get gonorrhea
 get pregnant
 accidentally lose a toy car up their ass
 accidentally lose a condom up their vag
 have a condom break and need Plan B
 have a condom break and need an abortion
 get West Nile Virus
 get MRSA
 get drug-resistant tuberculosis after travelling abroad in their junior year
 get kneed in the balls by an ex-girlfriend which leads to testicular torsion
 get beaten up by an ex-boyfriend
 get beaten up by a current boyfriend or girlfriend
 fall over while riding a bike
 get doored while riding a bike
 get hit by a car while riding a bike
 get into an accident while driving a car
 break an ankle while skydiving
 break a wrist while boxing
 break a femur while climbing rock walls
 sprain an ankle badly while training for a marathon
 pull a tendon while exercising
 or just have their body spontaneously decide to fail on them.

So, you know, I guess healthy young people never need health care at all!

Or maybe I read your post wrong and you meant that young people  should be funding this and the stupid was at them for  not getting insurance. In which case, well, it was really fun typing out a few dozen ways that y ...


Even though every item you list does occur: if you average it out among the group and add the cost for insurance; the price of insurance far out-weights the cost of paying it out of pocket.  Most 20-30 year olds will not need to see the doctor for anything more serious than a cold.  But you knew that didn't you.  Damn I just got trolled.  Man those guys...
 
2013-12-07 05:11:04 PM

bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.


Until they get cancer, get into a car accident, or other accident causing them to need insurance.
 
2013-12-07 05:12:18 PM
"Michelle Fields of PJTV cannot find one student at Howard University in Washington DC who has signed up for ObamaCare. These are the people Obama is relying on to carry the whole program."

Yes, after they graduate college and start making money.

Is there going to be a second installment, where Michelle Fields of PJTV goes back to campus and can't find a single student working full time for more than 30K/year?  ZOMG THESE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE FUTURE OF OUR ECONOMY!

I've seen some ideologically slanted stuff on the Internet, but this one is just an embarrassing and fundamental confusion about what college is supposed to be.
 
2013-12-07 05:13:53 PM

bigsteve3OOO: FloydA: bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.


Nobody needs health insurance until they get sick or injured.  If we let people buy health insurance after they get sick or injured and then drop it after they get well, the insurance companies will lose money.

Do you hate the free market?  Do you think that insurance companies should not be allowed to make money?  Because it sounds to me like you're advocating for socialism.

Its not free if you are forced by law to participate.


Under the old way: People who bought insurance pay for themselves and the uninsured
Under the ACA- People who buy insurance pay for themselves

And before you scream MEDICAID!, anyone who pays taxes already pays for that.
 
2013-12-07 05:15:18 PM

Wake Up Sheeple: Stupid free Medicaid & Medicare is stupid!


Have you looked at your pay stub lately? One of those things is not like the other.
 
2013-12-07 05:15:22 PM

bigsteve3OOO: Rincewind53: bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.

Or, you know, until they:
 get hit by a car
 break a leg slipping on ice
 get hit by a bus
 get hit by falling airplane parts
 get hit by an elephant that escaped from the zoo
 get hit by a helicopter falling on a pub where they're drinking (8 killed in Glasgow after that one)
 get shot in a drug deal gone wrong
 get shot in a drug deal gone wrong that they had nothing to do with but got caught in the crossfire
 get shot by the police
 get shot by a fellow student
 shoot themselves by accident,
 get pneumonia
 develop PCOS
 get cancer
 come down with strep throat
 get chlamydia
 get syphillis
 get AIDS
 get gonorrhea
 get pregnant
 accidentally lose a toy car up their ass
 accidentally lose a condom up their vag
 have a condom break and need Plan B
 have a condom break and need an abortion
 get West Nile Virus
 get MRSA
 get drug-resistant tuberculosis after travelling abroad in their junior year
 get kneed in the balls by an ex-girlfriend which leads to testicular torsion
 get beaten up by an ex-boyfriend
 get beaten up by a current boyfriend or girlfriend
 fall over while riding a bike
 get doored while riding a bike
 get hit by a car while riding a bike
 get into an accident while driving a car
 break an ankle while skydiving
 break a wrist while boxing
 break a femur while climbing rock walls
 sprain an ankle badly while training for a marathon
 pull a tendon while exercising
 or just have their body spontaneously decide to fail on them.

So, you know, I guess healthy young people never need health care at all!

Or maybe I read your post wrong and you meant that young people  should be funding this and the stupid was at them for  not getting insurance. In which case, well, it was really fun typing out a few doze ...


You just ignored his post and spewed something that is provably false.
 
2013-12-07 05:16:00 PM
Hey, did anyone happen to mention that most college students are likely covered on their parents' insurance plans and wouldn't actually need to sign up for Obamacare?  Because that would make this article and the moron who submitted it and the moron who greenlighted it seem rather moronic.
 
2013-12-07 05:17:39 PM
Anyone who takes Pajamas Media seriously really needs some kind of special insurance.
 
2013-12-07 05:17:59 PM

bigsteve3OOO: Even though every item you list does occur: if you average it out among the group and add the cost for insurance; the price of insurance far out-weights the cost of paying it out of pocket.  Most 20-30 year olds will not need to see the doctor for anything more serious than a cold.  But you knew that didn't you.  Damn I just got trolled.  Man those guys...


Got some facts to back up that assertion that the price of insurance far outweighs the cost of paying for medical expenses out of pocket?

Because where I'm coming from, insurance companies use risk pools to determine the point where it is economically efficient for a person to get health insurance.

See, that's the thing with probabilities. The chance of me personally, a particular young person, getting an injury or illness that would make my health insurance become necessary, is fairly low, and for me personally, the price of insurance has outweighed the costs of paying for medical expenses out of pocket (although I had to spend a couple thousand on dental care that my insurance didn't cover, which added insult to injury).

But the chance of  any young person, no particular young person, getting injured or ill and requiring health insurance that will cover far more that the costs of paying it out out pocket, are quite high.

It's basic probability mathematics.
 
2013-12-07 05:19:38 PM

Rincewind53: It's basic probability mathematics.


You're talking to a guy that spells 3000 with the letter O, and you expect him to understand math?
 
2013-12-07 05:23:07 PM

bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.


31.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-12-07 05:23:20 PM

bigsteve3OOO: FloydA: bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.


Nobody needs health insurance until they get sick or injured.  If we let people buy health insurance after they get sick or injured and then drop it after they get well, the insurance companies will lose money.

Do you hate the free market?  Do you think that insurance companies should not be allowed to make money?  Because it sounds to me like you're advocating for socialism.

Its not free if you are forced by law to participate.


Thanks for being the dumbest guy in the thread. I bet your mother is so proud of you.
 
2013-12-07 05:24:26 PM

bigsteve3OOO: young healthy people who do not need health care at all


Rush Limbaugh actually made this argument decades ago when the Clintons tried to get their healthcare bull passed.
 
2013-12-07 05:24:30 PM
Well... anyone still in undergrad at 27 (when you're no longer on your parents' insurance automatically) probably IS a bit dim, yes.

I mean, I guess that can involve going back or starting late, but usually people going back are in their 30s and the people in their late 20s are the alcoholic frat-bro types that just can't get the credit-hours.

//Or grad students, who are largely on campus insurance.
 
2013-12-07 05:24:58 PM

Rincewind53: Wow.  Out of all the universities in DC that they went to try this stunt, they went to Howard, the historically black college.

Gee, I wonder why?


can i guess? please, please.
 
2013-12-07 05:30:14 PM

MFAWG: Wake Up Sheeple: Stupid free Medicaid & Medicare is stupid!

Have you looked at your pay stub lately? One of those things is not like the other.


What are you trying to say? That poor people and seniors/disabled pay for these programs? HOW DARE THEY GET FREE HEALTHCARE. Or is it OMG TAXES!

If you're not simply trolling, you need to check yourself.
 
2013-12-07 05:30:35 PM

bigsteve3OOO: FloydA: bigsteve3OOO: NO! STUPID!! young healthy people who do not need health care at all and are least able to pay are the ones funding this stupidity.  Men must fund women's health.  Young fund the elderly.  welcome to what you idiots voted for.


Nobody needs health insurance until they get sick or injured.  If we let people buy health insurance after they get sick or injured and then drop it after they get well, the insurance companies will lose money.

Do you hate the free market?  Do you think that insurance companies should not be allowed to make money?  Because it sounds to me like you're advocating for socialism.

Its not free if you are forced by law to participate.



Prior to the ACA, freeloaders who refused to buy insurance just went to the ER when they got sick or injured and then when they couldn't or wouldn't pay, taxpayers like me had to foot the bill for them, as well as for myself through my insurance premiums.

Now, under the ACA, freeloaders can't do that anymore, and I only have to pay for myself.

So, once again, do you hate the free market?  Do you prefer socialism?  Because that is exactly what you are advocating.
 
2013-12-07 05:31:17 PM

FloydA: PJTV content disguised with a tag of something other than Pajama Media.   If you're going to link to right wing extremist propaganda, at least have the courage of your convictions.

Fark you subby for disguising your source, and fark you modmins for greening it.


Dog Welder: Hey, did anyone happen to mention that most college students are likely covered on their parents' insurance plans and wouldn't actually need to sign up for Obamacare?  Because that would make this article and the moron who submitted it and the moron who greenlighted it seem rather moronic.


So, not only a coward, but a stupid coward.
 
2013-12-07 05:33:05 PM

sammyk: Wouldn't the typical college student be on their parents plan until they are 26 or get their own damn job? If that's not the case because your parents are dead, strung out on meth or whatever you are probably going to get the subsidies that make it free.

Now that the website issues are getting resolved the right is getting really desperate for talking points. I don't think this is going to be the midterm election issue they were hoping for. In fact any political capitol they may have gained in the last month or 2 is going to get thrown away next month when they shut the government down again.

Please proceed teatards


Keep whistling past the graveyard. The website continues to be a mess. Just how big a one is tough to quantify because the administration can't or won't release useful data like how many people have actually managed to get insured, which requires making the first payment. The really big shoe to drop will be the cancellation of tens of millions of more policies that'll occur next year due to the delays that were put in for this year plus businesses renewing early in 2013 in order to retain their plans for one more year. You think this early round was bad PR, just wait. Then there's the adverse selection that's already occurring. The young and healthy aren't signing on, which means the premiums are going to go up. That or Obama will have to use the ACA's provisions to hand a ton of money over to the insurers to reimburse them for their losses.

But continue thinking happy thoughts, maybe you're way right and I'm way wrong, and Obamacare will be a triumph.
 
2013-12-07 05:33:12 PM

Jim_Callahan: Well... anyone still in undergrad at 27 (when you're no longer on your parents' insurance automatically) probably IS a bit dim, yes.

I mean, I guess that can involve going back or starting late, but usually people going back are in their 30s and the people in their late 20s are the alcoholic frat-bro types that just can't get the credit-hours.

//Or grad students, who are largely on campus insurance.


Some of us work too.
 
2013-12-07 05:33:20 PM
This site is just precious.
Other headlines on the sidebar:

Rabid, topless feminists attack group of praying men protecting cathedral from vandalism.

and

White House changes story: Obama DID live with illegal alien Kenyan uncle before going to Harvard.
 
2013-12-07 05:33:21 PM

bigsteve3OOO: ?  Because it sounds to me like you're advocating for socialism.



If you're against a thing, odds are that thing works, is successful and makes sense.
 
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