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(KREM Spokane)   It's bad getting bumped off your flight to Hawaii; it's Fark bad when you're a Pearl Harbor survivor on your way to a reunion   (krem.com) divider line 42
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2013-12-07 02:40:19 PM
United should get it's own tag.
 
2013-12-07 02:40:23 PM
This issue is SOOOO 1940's.  By the way...you know who else traveled to Pearly Harbor on December 7th?

I am sure United's response will be inspiring
 
2013-12-07 02:41:08 PM
I am betting that the person who bumped him does not even know what "Pearl Harbor" was.
 
2013-12-07 02:41:40 PM
Yeah, it sucks, but this shiat happens. Oh, and no surprise, it was United Airlines.
 
2013-12-07 02:45:40 PM

davebarnes: I am betting that the person who bumped him does not even know what "Pearl Harbor" was.


That's where the Germans started WW2 by pissing off Neville Chamberlain.

Considering the ages of the survivors this double sucks.
 
2013-12-07 02:49:05 PM
Was there another sports team that needed to get to a game?
 
2013-12-07 02:50:01 PM
There's a reason for those regulations.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Midwest_Flight_5481

That said, if United had made the announcement on the flight, I'm sure someone would have volunteered.
 
2013-12-07 02:51:34 PM

Stahi: United should get it's own tag.


So should that apostrophe.
 
2013-12-07 02:55:27 PM
...why did i already know it was united before clicking?
 
2013-12-07 02:58:12 PM
United are assholes for bumping him HOWEVER as much as I have the highest respects for our nation's veterans every single person has a good reason to be on that flight. Just because he is going to a PH memorial service does not make him anymore important than say a kid going back to see his parents, a guy going to a meeting for business or a grandparent going to see their grandkid for the first time.

Unless UA targeted him specifically for whatever reason sometimes it's just a luck of the draw. It's call life!
 
2013-12-07 02:59:39 PM
2d motion davebarnes made above.
Just came from wake following mem svc for veteran of both WW@ & Korea, who managed to complete HS before joining Navy as electrician ('s mate likely, considering his age at time; died @ 88 almost month ago, widow chose today for mem svc). Luckily, snow dissipated/plowed enuf in Zinzinnati to let us-all get to mem svc.
 
2013-12-07 03:05:48 PM
He should be proud, his sacrifice allowed this corpate citizen to excercise its freedom all up and down his ass.
 
2013-12-07 03:07:23 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Unless UA targeted him specifically for whatever reason sometimes it's just a luck of the draw.


He was told that the plane was overweight. Evidently, by approximately his weight.
 
2013-12-07 03:08:40 PM
I read somewhere else that they bumped 41 people from this flight, because of weather and headwinds requiring a higher fuel load.
Flying the 737 from the west coast to HI is stupid, a 757 would have handled all of the passengers and then some, with a full fuel load.
 
2013-12-07 03:10:47 PM

SuperNinjaToad: United are assholes for bumping him HOWEVER as much as I have the highest respects for our nation's veterans every single person has a good reason to be on that flight. Just because he is going to a PH memorial service does not make him anymore important than say a kid going back to see his parents, a guy going to a meeting for business or a grandparent going to see their grandkid for the first time.


Well, to be fair, a some of those people will probably get more chances at the trip.  Even if this guy is around next year, it's likely some of the people he would have seen there won't be.

What happened to asking for volunteers in exchange for vouchers?  We used to get mad when airlines overbooked, then they explained it was the only way to make sure the flight flew full.  That doesn't mean they can't have a decent system for compensating people- and hint, if you can't get volunteers, you're not compensating them enough.
 
2013-12-07 03:17:24 PM
Could you Farkers come up with a ranking system on who should get preferential treatment?  It would make it sooooo much easier for us in the service industry.  Does a Vietnam War POW get preferential treatment over a Pearl Harbor survivor?  How about a bullied bus monitor?  Harassed lesbian waitress?  Whining farker?
 
2013-12-07 03:18:19 PM

ElLoco: SuperNinjaToad: Unless UA targeted him specifically for whatever reason sometimes it's just a luck of the draw.

He was told that the plane was overweight. Evidently, by approximately his weight.


He sounds fat.
 
2013-12-07 03:19:41 PM

Watubi: Could you Farkers come up with a ranking system on who should get preferential treatment?  It would make it sooooo much easier for us in the service industry.  Does a Vietnam War POW get preferential treatment over a Pearl Harbor survivor?  How about a bullied bus monitor?  Harassed lesbian waitress?  Whining farker?


I don't care as long as service workers go last.
 
2013-12-07 03:21:27 PM

Watubi: Could you Farkers come up with a ranking system on who should get preferential treatment?  It would make it sooooo much easier for us in the service industry.  Does a Vietnam War POW get preferential treatment over a Pearl Harbor survivor?  How about a bullied bus monitor?  Harassed lesbian waitress?  Whining farker?


You sound like a biatch.
 
2013-12-07 03:24:50 PM
Was the 'bumper' SpaghettiO?
 
2013-12-07 03:37:03 PM

Watubi: Could you Farkers come up with a ranking system on who should get preferential treatment?  It would make it sooooo much easier for us in the service industry.  Does a Vietnam War POW get preferential treatment over a Pearl Harbor survivor?  How about a bullied bus monitor?  Harassed lesbian waitress?  Whining farker?


Get a real job.
 
2013-12-07 03:42:51 PM
DNRTFA
DNRTFT

It's even worse when your ticket to victimhood relies upon actually not being a victim. So claiming to be a victim makes you a victim after all, which means you lose your entitlement to heroicity. So the heroic becomes tragic, and tragic becomes absurd, and elevated becomes denigrated, and all ever spiralling downward to mediocrity.

The circle of defeat will not be complete until the man utters "Ahm uh vick-tim" with the phrase being pronounced with equal emphasis on all four syllables as typically heard on the Jerry Springer show.
 
2013-12-07 03:48:58 PM

HoratioGates: What happened to asking for volunteers in exchange for vouchers?


No kidding.  When I used to fly around for my job, I'd give up my seat whenever I could when returning home.  Over the years, I probably racked up a couple thousand dollars in free airfare that way.   Not a bad trade for sitting in an airport for a couple of extra hours playing games on my gameboy or laptop.
 
2013-12-07 03:50:19 PM

Bslim: He should be proud, his sacrifice allowed this corpate citizen to excercise its freedom all up and down his ass.


Came in to say that, but perhaps not quite as eloquently.

Perhaps if the airline had queried seated passengers, I bet they could come up with someone who would have traded positions.  Or at least I hope so.
 
2013-12-07 03:57:25 PM
Animal House:

Bluto: Hey! What's all this laying around stuff? Why are you all still laying around here for?
Stork: What the hell are we supposed to do, ya moron? We're all expelled. There's nothing to fight for anymore.
D-Day: [to Bluto] Let it go. War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: [to Boon] Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
 
2013-12-07 03:57:48 PM
It's not like it's their first time to Hawaii.
/Ducks.
//Salutes to those guys.
 
2013-12-07 04:20:00 PM
I used to travel alot in the 90's.  One year I did 150k miles with only 2 international flights.  This story is EXACTLY how I remember United's customer service.
 
2013-12-07 04:21:34 PM
He didn't miss anything. It says right in the article he made it on time for all the festivities. So why rage?
 
2013-12-07 04:35:26 PM

Watubi: Could you Farkers come up with a ranking system on who should get preferential treatment?  It would make it sooooo much easier for us in the service industry.  Does a Vietnam War POW get preferential treatment over a Pearl Harbor survivor?  How about a bullied bus monitor?  Harassed lesbian waitress?  Whining farker?


Here are a few novel ideas.  How about...

1) airlines stop treating their paying customers like freight and treat them all with a little respect.

2) airlines stop over booking.  If someone doesn't show up for the flight they don't get their money back, but they have a credit for that amount for 1 year with the airline.  After that it's too bad and call it a "Douchebag" fine.

3) airlines fire assholes like you, who clearly should have no contact with the public (see #1).  Might I suggest a career in small motor repair instead?
 
2013-12-07 04:41:10 PM
The airline practice of overbooking needs to stop. They farking know down to the minute who bought what. Now if you really need to be somewhere it means you're going to pay an exorbitant price for it. Or if not, the airline is going to put you up and get you there soonest.
 
2013-12-07 04:43:52 PM
They also wreck guitars.
 
2013-12-07 04:44:52 PM
He didn't miss anything. It says right in the article he made it on time for all the festivities. So why rage?

He only made it because he bought a ticket on another airline, no doubt at great expense since it was bought the same day as the flight.
 
2013-12-07 04:49:41 PM
The freedom for airlines to bump passengers is what he fought for
 
2013-12-07 04:52:20 PM
If anyone is interested, this seems as good a place as any to share these on Fark:

http://imgur.com/a/IbApp

These are pictures I took two days ago of a military-operated weather station near my house here in Japan.  The significance of this station is that it sits on the site of an old Imperial communications facility.  The very communications facility that first received word that the Japanese fleet had successfully attacked Pearl Harbor.
 
2013-12-07 04:55:47 PM

SuperNinjaToad: United are assholes for bumping him HOWEVER as much as I have the highest respects for our nation's veterans every single person has a good reason to be on that flight. Just because he is going to a PH memorial service does not make him anymore important than say a kid going back to see his parents, a guy going to a meeting for business or a grandparent going to see their grandkid for the first time.

Unless UA targeted him specifically for whatever reason sometimes it's just a luck of the draw. It's call life!


The problem is that the airlines do not make a sufficient effort to find volunteers anymore--they care more about doing it fast than the denied boarding fines.  Not only that but there is no fine in this case.  I think the only answer is to raise the fines and apply them to anyone left behind for any reason.

HoratioGates: What happened to asking for volunteers in exchange for vouchers? We used to get mad when airlines overbooked, then they explained it was the only way to make sure the flight flew full. That doesn't mean they can't have a decent system for compensating people- and hint, if you can't get volunteers, you're not compensating them enough.


There will be events where you can't find enough volunteers.  However, as a general rule I agree.  The required compensation should be high enough that it doesn't happen all that often.
 
2013-12-07 05:23:17 PM

John the Magnificent: 2) airlines stop over booking. If someone doesn't show up for the flight they don't get their money back, but they have a credit for that amount for 1 year with the airline. After that it's too bad and call it a "Douchebag" fine.


That would hurt the airlines a lot worse than the current system.
 
2013-12-07 05:47:23 PM

Valiente: They also wreck guitars.


Perfectly good ones.
I don't know who they think they are.
 
2013-12-07 05:51:51 PM

JohnCarter: This issue is SOOOO 1940's.  By the way...you know who else traveled to Pearly Harbor on December 7th?

I am sure United's response will be inspiring


I'm told that there were a great many Pearl Harbor jokes told when Mitsubishi first started shipping their machines to the US in a more orderly fashion.
 
2013-12-07 07:00:25 PM

Valiente: They also wreck guitars.


And kill dogs. The only humans they respect are their stockholders.
 
2013-12-07 09:40:56 PM
Airlines overbook all the time.  This time, it made them look bad enough to draw some media attention.

HoratioGates: We used to get mad when airlines overbooked, then they explained it was the only way to make sure the flight flew full.


I don't care if their flight is full.  If someone pays for a seat and doesn't show up, that should mean more profit for the airline - they got their money and didn't have to lift that extra weight.

If you can seat 200 and sell 250 tickets there is a problem.  If  you only have 200 seats, you shouldn't sell more than 200 tickets.

Watubi: Could you Farkers come up with a ranking system on who should get preferential treatment?


How was he asking for preferential treatment?  He bought a ticket, and all he wanted was to be seated on the airplane.  That's what he paid for, an airline flight.  And they didn't do it.  How is he asking for preferential treatment?
 
2013-12-08 08:08:52 AM
It would be ironic if he was bumped for a passenger of Japanese heritage.....
 
2013-12-08 01:06:55 PM
...and stood there inwardly-reflective and dignified in that his service to his country preserved the parity of citizens in the face of cultural, political, and economic pressures that would create artificial class divisions over such superficial distinctions as long-past occupations.

There would be no person on this flight who secured their seat by being a different sort of citizen, only those that arrived first or whatever fair and equitable method the airline had previously laid down to allocate seating. This is no North Korea or similar despotic regime where just treatment is a paper thin veneer torn at the first emotional sway or nationalistic pomp. This is the United States of America that he fought for, a nation where the other passenger who occupied his seat would not have to fear baseless predisposition that his rights were not as precious as another's. To be given preferential treatment would be wrong. It would make celebrate a victory for freedom hollow and melancholy.
 
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