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(Breitbart.com)   Jesse Jackson: "Voter ID is voter suppression and something that went against Mandela's beliefs". Wanna guess what the law in South Africa requires to vote? C'mon. Just guess. Short of T-ball you're not going to get an easier hit   (breitbart.com) divider line 407
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2013-12-07 08:11:11 AM  
For Chrissake Jesse, he's not even cold yet.
 
2013-12-07 08:22:52 AM  
Provide the ID for free and I don't have a problem with it. Otherwise, it's a poll tax
 
2013-12-07 08:34:46 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Provide the ID for free and I don't have a problem with it. Otherwise, it's a poll tax


Pretty much this. I bet you $1 that the ID South Africa requires is free.
 
2013-12-07 08:39:41 AM  
Bretibart staffers are just jealous that Mandela's death has led to outpourings of sympathy and praise, unlike the death of their founder, which led to "Good, I hope that cokehead scumbag is burning in hell" reactions.
 
2013-12-07 08:39:55 AM  

Grote-Man: Peter von Nostrand: Provide the ID for free and I don't have a problem with it. Otherwise, it's a poll tax

Pretty much this. I bet you $1 that the ID South Africa requires is free.


How about we see if we can get Billy Ray and Louis to switch places in life for that buck instead?
 
2013-12-07 09:02:28 AM  

Grote-Man: Peter von Nostrand: Provide the ID for free and I don't have a problem with it. Otherwise, it's a poll tax

Pretty much this. I bet you $1 that the ID South Africa requires is free.


Same here. The issue is with requiring a paid ID to vote, not with requiring an ID at all.

South Africa probably gives them to all citizens as a matter of course.
 
2013-12-07 09:17:37 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Provide the ID for free and I don't have a problem with it. Otherwise, it's a poll tax


Yeah, it's not the ID that's the issue, it's all the hoops they make people jump through to get one. Want to fix that? Just make EVERYBODY go through the process to get an offical voter ID, no substitutes.
 
2013-12-07 09:25:31 AM  

edmo: Yeah, it's not the ID that's the issue, it's all the hoops they make people jump through to get one. Want to fix that? Just make EVERYBODY go through the process to get an offical voter ID, no substitutes.


The trouble is, if you have one process sanctioned by a state legislature that doesn't involve lots of jumping through hoops, people will start asking uncomfortable questions about all the other hoops state legislatures require.

You have to have a lot of Vogon in you if you want to run for a spot in a state legislature, save perhaps the few bodies not granted all that much power under their state's constitution.
 
2013-12-07 09:27:37 AM  
Breitbart died, why is his site still active?
 
2013-12-07 09:31:22 AM  

Mugato: For Chrissake Jesse, he's not even cold yet.


I'm pretty sure Breitbart's cold by now.
 
2013-12-07 09:38:33 AM  

Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?


The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.
 
2013-12-07 10:01:37 AM  

cman: Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?

The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.


Holy balls, you actually think you've touched upon something here.
 
2013-12-07 10:12:32 AM  
Mandela may or may not have approved of voter ID laws. I don't know and the article doesn't say. Just because South Africa requires an ID doesn't mean Mandela approved of the policy.

Also, what is good and necessary policy in one country may not be in another. I personally don't want our policy needs to be weighed against Africa's when designing domestic programs/policy.

And hasn't Breitbart, or at least their like-minded friends, been reminding us for days that Mandela was a Commie? I guess that doesn't have anything to do with JJ's statement, but they really shouldn't care what Mandela says if he's nothing but a godless Commie anyway.
 
2013-12-07 10:36:50 AM  

thamike: cman: Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?

The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.

Holy balls, you actually think you've touched upon something here.


I am just saying that dying no longer is a handicap like the olden days
 
2013-12-07 10:38:15 AM  

cman: thamike: cman: Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?

The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.

Holy balls, you actually think you've touched upon something here.

I am just saying that dying no longer is a career handicap like the olden days


DAMNIT I farked that up

Fixt
 
2013-12-07 11:10:16 AM  

cman: thamike: cman: Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?

The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.

Holy balls, you actually think you've touched upon something here.

I am just saying that dying no longer is a handicap like the olden days


Wat?
 
2013-12-07 11:11:39 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: cman: thamike: cman: Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?

The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.

Holy balls, you actually think you've touched upon something here.

I am just saying that dying no longer is a handicap like the olden days

Wat?


Never mind. Just saw your next post
 
2013-12-07 11:12:28 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Mandela may or may not have approved of voter ID laws. I don't know and the article doesn't say. Just because South Africa requires an ID doesn't mean Mandela approved of the policy.

Also, what is good and necessary policy in one country may not be in another. I personally don't want our policy needs to be weighed against Africa's when designing domestic programs/policy.

And hasn't Breitbart, or at least their like-minded friends, been reminding us for days that Mandela was a Commie? I guess that doesn't have anything to do with JJ's statement, but they really shouldn't care what Mandela says if he's nothing but a godless Commie anyway.


This is one of those stories where some right wing hack thinks he caught the "libs" in a contradiction.  It's kind of cute, in a way.n They're so proud of t hemselves
 
2013-12-07 11:26:42 AM  
Rev. Jesse Jackson appeared on Fox News' Special Report on Thursday to comment on the passing of Nelson Mandela--and to exploit Mandela's death for his own campaign against "voter suppression," i.e. laws requiring photo ID at the voting booth on Election Day.

Seeing how Rev. Jackson didn't say that, that would be putting words in his mouth. What he said starts at about 2min.

Voter suppression is not limited to one issue like a photo ID
 
2013-12-07 11:28:19 AM  

Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?


Because he was carrying a valid ID when he croaked on the way to meet his coke dealer.

 
2013-12-07 11:29:22 AM  
Because the United States should model itself on South Africa.
 
2013-12-07 11:29:39 AM  
So what you're saying is Jesse Jackson is the polar opposite of Nelson Mandela.
 
2013-12-07 11:30:10 AM  

thamike: cman: Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?

The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.

Holy balls, you actually think you've touched upon something here.


Probably high as fark right now.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-07 11:30:34 AM  

Cajnik: Rev. Jesse Jackson appeared on Fox News' Special Report on Thursday to comment on the passing of Nelson Mandela--and to exploit Mandela's death for his own campaign against "voter suppression," i.e. laws requiring photo ID at the voting booth on Election Day.

Seeing how Rev. Jackson didn't say that, that would be putting words in his mouth. What he said starts at about 2min.

Voter suppression is not limited to one issue like a photo ID


They are actively fighting for for removal of early voting and refuse to explain how it helps fraud...

and that's just one...
 
2013-12-07 11:32:21 AM  
South Africa long required papers just to travel, the population is pretty used to "papers please"
 
2013-12-07 11:33:01 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: thamike: cman: Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?

The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.

Holy balls, you actually think you've touched upon something here.

Probably high as fark right now.


Hi Cameron!
 
2013-12-07 11:33:48 AM  
Progressives never bother to understand what people actually believe or say.  They co-opt their image.  Lie and say that they were progressive.  When someone points out the lie they attack.  Look at Dr. Martin Luther King.  he could only be described as a conservative person.  Possibly Libertarian if you stretch it. Progressives claim him as one of theirs.  The sad part is kids get such a poor education they dont realize this foolishness is happening.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-07 11:35:13 AM  

bigsteve3OOO: Progressives never bother to understand what people actually believe or say.  They co-opt their image.  Lie and say that they were progressive.  When someone points out the lie they attack.  Look at Dr. Martin Luther King.  he could only be described as a conservative person.  Possibly Libertarian if you stretch it. Progressives claim him as one of theirs.  The sad part is kids get such a poor education they dont realize this foolishness is happening.


Yep.. he was sure conservative.  He believed that people should strike to get a fair wage.  REALLY conservative there.

0/10
 
2013-12-07 11:37:47 AM  

Mugato: For Chrissake Jesse, he's not even cold yet.


Neither is Paul Walker.

/try the vea.....ummm how about pasta.
 
2013-12-07 11:37:57 AM  

bigsteve3OOO: Look at Dr. Martin Luther King.  he could only be described as a conservative person.


lololol
 
2013-12-07 11:38:15 AM  

d23: bigsteve3OOO: Progressives never bother to understand what people actually believe or say.  They co-opt their image.  Lie and say that they were progressive.  When someone points out the lie they attack.  Look at Dr. Martin Luther King.  he could only be described as a conservative person.  Possibly Libertarian if you stretch it. Progressives claim him as one of theirs.  The sad part is kids get such a poor education they dont realize this foolishness is happening.

Yep.. he was sure conservative.  He believed that people should strike to get a fair wage.  REALLY conservative there.

0/10


He was a ordained minister.  He believed that you stand on the strength of your own character.  He was not for government handouts. He wanted deregulation.  ETC..
 
2013-12-07 11:38:24 AM  
Provide the ID for free.
Provide the ID be attainable at the polls the day of elections.
Provide for both transportation and a paid holiday for all voters.

...and watch the heads asplode in a chorus of "SOCHUSLISM!!!!!!"

The GOP loves to overlook the fact that when the voter turnout is high they get their asses handed to them.
 
2013-12-07 11:40:01 AM  

cman: cman: thamike: cman: Generation_D: Breitbart died, why is his site still active?

The Internet has made us immortal.

You know how many Facebook pages are still up of people who have passed on since 2009?

Death doesn't mean what it used to mean. Its funny in a way. The Internet has touched our lives so much that it has extended into death.

Holy balls, you actually think you've touched upon something here.

I am just saying that dying no longer is a career handicap like the olden days

DAMNIT I farked that up

Fixt


showbizgeek.com
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-12-07 11:40:03 AM  
So what?  He hasn't been president there for years.  It's not like he wrote every law they have.

It also doesn't mean that South Africa has all the hurdles that Republicans have set up for minorities, like eliminating polling places in areas with high minority populations, or refusing to accept student IDs.
 
2013-12-07 11:40:08 AM  
Mandela believed in voter id because it is the law in his country,

therefore

Republicans [          ] Obamacare because it is law in this country.


/having another of those "Oh yeah, now I remember what happened to this country. Half the adults are five year olds in disguise" moments.
 
2013-12-07 11:40:33 AM  
MLK, a vocal opponent of the Vietnam conflict, a conservative. Hilarious. A community organizer, a conservative. So funny.
 
2013-12-07 11:41:29 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Provide the ID for free and I don't have a problem with it. Otherwise, it's a poll tax


Well, there is also the "DMV Office is too far away" argument, or interferes with job/ child raising/ weed smoking argument, so I can't get over there... and of course, the "I don't need an ID to mail in a dozen fake absentee ballots..."

But, it's okay, as the Dead are still alive on the Voter Reg lists; as are Fluffy and Barkie... and College students double registered at home address and at college dorm address...

Vote early and vote often!

And all those US Military Mail system ballots without dated cancellation; throw them out!
 
2013-12-07 11:41:30 AM  

thamike: Mugato: For Chrissake Jesse, he's not even cold yet.

I'm pretty sure Breitbart's cold by now.


Not where most likley went.
 
2013-12-07 11:42:07 AM  

d23: bigsteve3OOO: Progressives never bother to understand what people actually believe or say.  They co-opt their image.  Lie and say that they were progressive.  When someone points out the lie they attack.  Look at Dr. Martin Luther King.  he could only be described as a conservative person.  Possibly Libertarian if you stretch it. Progressives claim him as one of theirs.  The sad part is kids get such a poor education they dont realize this foolishness is happening.

Yep.. he was sure conservative.  He believed that people should strike to get a fair wage.  REALLY conservative there.

0/10


He did blow a lot of church/civil rights funds on hookers, so in that way he is like a conservative
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-07 11:42:45 AM  

bigsteve3OOO: He was a ordained minister. He believed that you stand on the strength of your own character. He was not for government handouts. He wanted deregulation. ETC..


Since you're a massive conservatard that can only think in false dilemas, I can see how one specific item makes it seem that way.... but you can't think deeply enough to see the difference.
 
2013-12-07 11:42:49 AM  

bigsteve3OOO: He was a ordained minister.  He believed that you stand on the strength of your own character.  He was not for government handouts. He wanted deregulation.  ETC..


The repeal of segregation laws is not "deregulation." He marched with striking garbage workers . Please cite some ACTUAL conservative things he said or did.
 
2013-12-07 11:44:21 AM  

machoprogrammer: d23: bigsteve3OOO: Progressives never bother to understand what people actually believe or say.  They co-opt their image.  Lie and say that they were progressive.  When someone points out the lie they attack.  Look at Dr. Martin Luther King.  he could only be described as a conservative person.  Possibly Libertarian if you stretch it. Progressives claim him as one of theirs.  The sad part is kids get such a poor education they dont realize this foolishness is happening.

Yep.. he was sure conservative.  He believed that people should strike to get a fair wage.  REALLY conservative there.

0/10

He did blow a lot of church/civil rights funds on hookers, so in that way he is like a conservative


He was a member of the GOP

You know how I know most Farkers have never read his speeches?  He was much more like Ron Paul than Obama.  Suck it libs he is not yours.
 
2013-12-07 11:44:38 AM  
You begin to wonder if the minority SA government created voter suppression to suppress the majority vote.

And then you begin to wonder if TFA got the voter ID bit wrong, by pretending that it's not voter suppression.

Since Fox Faux "News" has a hazy grip on facts, I wonder if any if this is true.

Other than the Jesse Jackson clip.

/did they edit out any context?
 
2013-12-07 11:45:09 AM  

bigsteve3OOO: Progressives never bother to understand what people actually believe or say.  They co-opt their image.  Lie and say that they were progressive.  When someone points out the lie they attack.  Look at Dr. Martin Luther King.  he could only be described as a conservative person.  Possibly Libertarian if you stretch it. Progressives claim him as one of theirs.  The sad part is kids get such a poor education they dont realize this foolishness is happening.


He was in Memphis the day of his assassination to support striking (public sector union) garbage workers.
 
2013-12-07 11:45:11 AM  

sdd2000: thamike: Mugato: For Chrissake Jesse, he's not even cold yet.

I'm pretty sure Breitbart's cold by now.

Not where

Breitbart most likley went.

Too quick on posting prior post.
 
2013-12-07 11:46:15 AM  
I looked it up, because I do that sort of thing.  First time cost of getting a South African ID if you are a citizen is free.  You have to provide two photographs.  If you lose your ID, there is a minor replacement application fee.  There is also an option for temporary ID (minor fee) while you wait for a permanent ID.

SA ID Doc information
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-07 11:47:53 AM  

bigsteve3OOO: You know how I know most Farkers have never read his speeches? He was much more like Ron Paul than Obama.


He didn't believe "standing on your own feet" meant it was wrong to help people.  Really... you need to look up what a false dilemma is.   You're whole (lack of) reasoning seems to be clouded by it.
 
2013-12-07 11:48:04 AM  

bigsteve3OOO: He was a member of the GOP

You know how I know most Farkers have never read his speeches?  He was much more like Ron Paul than Obama.  Suck it libs he is not yours.


lolol seriously. Ron Paul? That is fantastic!

No, really. You've never actually read his speeches. Ron Paul has never supported labor. Or talked about the oppression of the poor.
 
2013-12-07 11:48:58 AM  

Swampmaster: Well, there is also the "DMV Office is too far away" argument,


In Texas, more than a quarter of the counties don't even have a DMV, so you may have a 200-mile round trip to get your ID in the western part of the state.  You don't drive because you don't have an ID, and you work 40+ hours a week with schedule that changes from week-to-week, sometimes at the last minute if a coworker falls ill.  Obviously, this means you are lazy and don't deserve to vote.
 
2013-12-07 11:49:34 AM  
 
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