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(Huffington Post)   Rep. Joe Barton (R-etarded): Hell with repealing Obamacare, let's repeal the minimum wage instead   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 161
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2013-12-06 01:48:48 PM
Reminds me of a radio ad for Eris running shoes (from GTA3):

"Yesterday, I made a dollar!"
 
2013-12-06 01:55:53 PM
Smitty,

Mental retardation is a medical diagnosis. Joe Barton isn't retarded. He's probably closer to being a sociopath - the kind of person who would use another person's ignorance to take financial and political advantage of them.

/have a family member who is retarded
//I'd trust him with my wallet more than Joe Barton.
 
2013-12-06 01:58:01 PM
These "R" guys all have boilerplate speeches ready to go. Just insert [whatever Obongo said he was for] and call a news conference.
 
2013-12-06 02:02:03 PM
This is the same guy that apologized to BP.

"I'm ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday," Barton said. "I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown, in this case, a $20 billion shakedown."
 
2013-12-06 02:06:13 PM

MisterTweak: Smitty,

Mental retardation is a medical diagnosis. Joe Barton isn't retarded. He's probably closer to being a sociopath - the kind of person who would use another person's ignorance to take financial and political advantage of them.

/have a family member who is retarded
//I'd trust him with my wallet more than Joe Barton.


Fair point, and I meant no offense by my use of it in the headline.

I do apologize though, for the poor choice of words on my part.
 
2013-12-06 02:11:01 PM
Republicans on Capitol Hill have argued that raising the minimum wage would hurt everything from small businesses to teenagers looking for part-time work, but several academic studies have contradicted their claims.

Like Republicans care what smart people have to say.
 
2013-12-06 02:16:38 PM
Holy crap, seriously?
 
2013-12-06 02:17:03 PM
As much as republicans claim to hate China, they're doing their best to make us more like them.
 
2013-12-06 02:22:43 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: MisterTweak: Smitty,

Mental retardation is a medical diagnosis. Joe Barton isn't retarded. He's probably closer to being a sociopath - the kind of person who would use another person's ignorance to take financial and political advantage of them.

/have a family member who is retarded
//I'd trust him with my wallet more than Joe Barton.

Fair point, and I meant no offense by my use of it in the headline.

I do apologize though, for the poor choice of words on my part.


No offense taken, I am more upset at the outright fraud a couple guys like Barton manage to pull off. It's the Rick Perry schtick - act like Cletus Farkhat, bumpkin sh*tkicker, while carefully signing legislation that allows you to turn the entire state's treasury into a slush fund. That ain't stupid, it's pretty genius. Evil and immoral, but genius.

You're a gentleman and a scholar, but don't quote me on that.
 
2013-12-06 02:28:54 PM

MisterTweak: You're a gentleman and a scholar, but don't quote me on that.


No worries...I'll just attribute it like this:

"Joe is a gentleman and a scholar."  --Everyone, ever.

/lulz  ;)
//tip of the hat to you though
 
2013-12-06 02:37:16 PM

BunkyBrewman: This is the same guy that apologized to BP.

"I'm ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday," Barton said. "I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown, in this case, a $20 billion shakedown."


He was also one of the very, very few members of Congress who opposed The Anti-Apartheid Act.

/I had no idea this dickbag had been in Congress so long.
 
2013-12-06 02:56:38 PM

Sgt Otter: He was also one of the very, very few members of Congress who opposed The Anti-Apartheid Act.


So he and Reagan (PBUH) were on the same side of that debate, against virtually everyone in Congress, all of America and the developed world, and basic human decency.

At least he isn't a hypocritical Reagan worshipper like Ted Cruz, paying tribute to Mandela while hoping no one notices his demigod considered Mandela a terrorist who deserved to rot in prison.
 
2013-12-06 03:05:51 PM
i54.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-06 04:13:28 PM

MrBallou: These "R" guys all have boilerplate speeches ready to go. Just insert [whatever Obongo said he was for] and call a news conference.


Though it seems to have shifted from "let's oppose whatever Obama proposes" to "let's propose to do the exact opposite of whatever Obama proposes".
 
2013-12-06 04:13:56 PM
The same guy who voted against the Anti-Apartheid Act? This guy's batting a thousand!
 
2013-12-06 04:14:57 PM
* facepalm*
 
2013-12-06 04:16:29 PM
I'm ashamed that Joe Barton is from Texas. Heck, I'm ashamed Joe Barton is a member of my species.
 
2013-12-06 04:16:45 PM
There aren't very many people whose deaths I think would instantly make the world a better place. Joe is trying his damndest to make it on that list.
 
2013-12-06 04:16:48 PM

qorkfiend: MrBallou: These "R" guys all have boilerplate speeches ready to go. Just insert [whatever Obongo said he was for] and call a news conference.

Though it seems to have shifted from "let's oppose whatever Obama proposes" to "let's propose to do the exact opposite of whatever Obama proposes".


So.. he should come out in favor of increasing military funding so the GOP rams through a defunding bill? Brilliant!
 
2013-12-06 04:18:45 PM
Joe Barton was also pro-tobacco company when the FDA was trying to put more regulations on tobacco in the 90s.
 
2013-12-06 04:20:02 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph : "Joe is a gentleman and a scholar." --Everyone, ever.

--Rand Paul
 
2013-12-06 04:20:44 PM
That's Barton with an "arton" and a capital B then Simp plus l-e-m-i-n-d-e-d that's me.

This chode is nothing but deep, deep trouble.
 
2013-12-06 04:21:14 PM
It is Christmas and various versions of Dickens Christmas Carol are airing.  Unfortunately some in the GOP are identifying with the wrong Scrooge
 
2013-12-06 04:21:25 PM
Obama should come out in favor of starting out the day at 8:00am with ten minutes of deep breathing.  Idiots like this guy would kill themselves the next morning by clothespinning their mouth and nose shut.
 
2013-12-06 04:22:56 PM
Oh, and for the record, I'd be perfectly fine with wholesale repealing the minimum wage if we also instituted a universal basic income.
 
2013-12-06 04:26:04 PM
If he were proposing to replace the minimum wage with something better - e.g. negative income tax - that would be one thing.  But Barton is just a ninny.
 
2013-12-06 04:26:40 PM
 
2013-12-06 04:27:40 PM

KarLorian: Talk about life imitating life art...

http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/tnawa2/key-and-peele-obama- s- meeting-with-republicans

"Posted: 03/06/2012"


D'oh, FIFM
 
2013-12-06 04:28:40 PM

Serious Black: Oh, and for the record, I'd be perfectly fine with wholesale repealing the minimum wage if we also instituted a universal basic income.


But with diminishing returns for larger families, I might consider it.
 
2013-12-06 04:28:56 PM
I won't, because I'm two cocktails in to a three day weekend, make the case that the minimum wage is sort of responsible for my not quite five times the minimum wage pay, or that the teamsters union, (of which I am not a member), is absolutely the reason I am a middle class worker, but both statements are true.
 
2013-12-06 04:30:11 PM

Ball Peen Hammer Laxative: That's Barton with an "arton" and a capital B then Simp plus l-e-m-i-n-d-e-d that's me.

This chode is nothing but deep, deep trouble.


he and louis gohmert should get together and form a synapse.
 
2013-12-06 04:30:40 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Oh, and for the record, I'd be perfectly fine with wholesale repealing the minimum wage if we also instituted a universal basic income.

But with diminishing returns for larger families, I might consider it.


I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds like you think the value of the basic income should be based on the size of the household?
 
2013-12-06 04:31:18 PM
Outreach Program is proceeding wonderfuly.
 
2013-12-06 04:36:54 PM

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SNERT!
 
2013-12-06 04:41:50 PM

FlashHarry: [i54.tinypic.com image 450x247]


Uncanny. I need to go rock quietly in a corner now.
 
2013-12-06 04:42:21 PM

Serious Black: Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Oh, and for the record, I'd be perfectly fine with wholesale repealing the minimum wage if we also instituted a universal basic income.

But with diminishing returns for larger families, I might consider it.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds like you think the value of the basic income should be based on the size of the household?


Not so much the size of the household, but I assume children wouldn't be issued this same basic income, so having dependents would need to increase your basic income. However, the more dependents you have should reduce the increase by some amount for each addition dependent. It might sound mean and even be unfair, but I doubt the viable of such a system otherwise.
 
2013-12-06 04:42:34 PM

MisterTweak: Smitty,

Mental retardation is a medical diagnosis. Joe Barton isn't retarded. He's probably closer to being a sociopath - the kind of person who would use another person's ignorance to take financial and political advantage of them.

/have a family member who is retarded
//I'd trust him with my wallet more than Joe Barton.


Sociopathy is also a medical diagnosis (as ASPD), you insensitive person.
 
2013-12-06 04:43:27 PM
*viability. sorry.
 
2013-12-06 04:43:59 PM
Not surprised, honestly. Disgusted, yes. Surprised, no.

I would not be surprised if some corporations would pay their workers less if they could. However, if they tried it would go very, very badly for them. If you do not pay your workers well enough to even live at a bare subsistence level, what is the point of working? Walmart would lose most of its workforce and a lot of fast food chains would see the same.

Also, what's the lowest wage you can give a worker? Zero dollars. All Walmart would have to do is buy up some cheap tenement style apartments and offer crappy food in return for earning nothing but subsistence shelter and crappy food.
 
2013-12-06 04:49:26 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Oh, and for the record, I'd be perfectly fine with wholesale repealing the minimum wage if we also instituted a universal basic income.

But with diminishing returns for larger families, I might consider it.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds like you think the value of the basic income should be based on the size of the household?

Not so much the size of the household, but I assume children wouldn't be issued this same basic income, so having dependents would need to increase your basic income. However, the more dependents you have should reduce the increase by some amount for each addition dependent. It might sound mean and even be unfair, but I doubt the viablity of such a system otherwise.


I'd have little problem making it like the FairTax's prebate where adults get one rate and dependents get another rate. No matter how you do it though, some people are going to balk at the cost.
 
2013-12-06 04:55:36 PM
Alexander said. "What we're doing is coming up with the big idea and sending the bill to the employer."

The largest employers in the US force people to utilize social welfare programs to subsidize their incomes. Why don't they stop sending the bill to the taxpayers?
 
2013-12-06 04:57:30 PM
I really think the human race would be better off if every single republican voter, ever, just keeled over and died.  It would be nice if we could just get rid of the  "but what if we were just a little eviler?" part of the debate gone.
 
2013-12-06 04:57:45 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Oh, and for the record, I'd be perfectly fine with wholesale repealing the minimum wage if we also instituted a universal basic income.

But with diminishing returns for larger families, I might consider it.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds like you think the value of the basic income should be based on the size of the household?

Not so much the size of the household, but I assume children wouldn't be issued this same basic income, so having dependents would need to increase your basic income. However, the more dependents you have should reduce the increase by some amount for each addition dependent. It might sound mean and even be unfair, but I doubt the viable of such a system otherwise.


So basically your "plan" is FARK YOU family having chumps!

Don't kid yourself boiled down to its most basic and essential form that is exactly what you're saying.
 
2013-12-06 04:58:43 PM

Needlessly Complicated: I'm ashamed that Joe Barton is from Texas. Heck, I'm ashamed Joe Barton is a member of my species.


The thing is, I think he's an automaton that runs on static electricity and hate.

And I'm not completely sure about the static electricity thing, either.
 
2013-12-06 05:02:36 PM

Serious Black: Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Oh, and for the record, I'd be perfectly fine with wholesale repealing the minimum wage if we also instituted a universal basic income.

But with diminishing returns for larger families, I might consider it.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds like you think the value of the basic income should be based on the size of the household?

Not so much the size of the household, but I assume children wouldn't be issued this same basic income, so having dependents would need to increase your basic income. However, the more dependents you have should reduce the increase by some amount for each addition dependent. It might sound mean and even be unfair, but I doubt the viablity of such a system otherwise.

I'd have little problem making it like the FairTax's prebate where adults get one rate and dependents get another rate. No matter how you do it though, some people are going to balk at the cost.


That could be workable, but would be susceptible to serious issues if the average number of children per household were to increase. Also, I wouldn't mind my way as it would discourage having excessively large families. Regardless, universal basic income is an idea I love, and honestly believe is feasible. Not sure when our culture will be open-minded enough for it, though.
 
2013-12-06 05:07:46 PM

ScaryBottles: Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Wasilla Hillbilly: Serious Black: Oh, and for the record, I'd be perfectly fine with wholesale repealing the minimum wage if we also instituted a universal basic income.

But with diminishing returns for larger families, I might consider it.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds like you think the value of the basic income should be based on the size of the household?

Not so much the size of the household, but I assume children wouldn't be issued this same basic income, so having dependents would need to increase your basic income. However, the more dependents you have should reduce the increase by some amount for each addition dependent. It might sound mean and even be unfair, but I doubt the viable of such a system otherwise.

So basically your "plan" is FARK YOU family having chumps!

Don't kid yourself boiled down to its most basic and essential form that is exactly what you're saying.


In a sense, yes. Not because I'm an anti-family jackass, but the reality of fiscal issues require compromise. If the economy could handle it, I wouldn't be against additional subsidies for various social situations, including if you could show that your household is suffering undue hardships.
 
2013-12-06 05:08:21 PM

FlashHarry: Ball Peen Hammer Laxative: That's Barton with an "arton" and a capital B then Simp plus l-e-m-i-n-d-e-d that's me.

This chode is nothing but deep, deep trouble.

he and louis gohmert should get together and form a synapse.


Now you've done it.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-06 05:08:31 PM
I was listening to NPR today (SoSHULIZSM) and they were talking about a growing probability that Obamacare may actually fail on it's own. People will be disappointed if that happens, and conservatives will be busy rubbing their privates in absolute excitement if it were to happen, and people would sort of go back to their lives--and we'd probably see 8 years of conservative government.

But if they repeal the minimum wage--you might actually see some farking dynamite.  Republicans have gotten more and more brazen that they care fark all about the common American worker--more and more they wear it on their sleeves that either they are looking out for their own business interests or one of their donors business interests. I honestly wonder if they made THIS brazen of a step further in that direction--would that be enough for us to turn off "Duck Dynasty" and start constructing some Molotov Cocktails?
 
2013-12-06 05:14:26 PM

TimonC346: I was listening to NPR today (SoSHULIZSM) and they were talking about a growing probability that Obamacare may actually fail on it's own. People will be disappointed if that happens, and conservatives will be busy rubbing their privates in absolute excitement if it were to happen, and people would sort of go back to their lives--and we'd probably see 8 years of conservative government.

But if they repeal the minimum wage--you might actually see some farking dynamite.  Republicans have gotten more and more brazen that they care fark all about the common American worker--more and more they wear it on their sleeves that either they are looking out for their own business interests or one of their donors business interests. I honestly wonder if they made THIS brazen of a step further in that direction--would that be enough for us to turn off "Duck Dynasty" and start constructing some Molotov Cocktails?


Of course not. If the 18th Century French had had TVs and American Idol the Bastille would never had been stormed. TV is the opiate of the masses; the bread and circus of the American Empire. Things would have to get a lot worse for there to be a real uprising. Like, say for instance, the power grid going down and TVs not working.
 
2013-12-06 05:26:09 PM

ikanreed: I really think the human race would be better off if every single republican voter, ever, just keeled over and died.  It would be nice if we could just get rid of the  "but what if we were just a little eviler?" part of the debate gone.


I think the human race would be better off if we stopped dehumanizing other groups of people.
 
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