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2013-12-06 01:20:56 PM
We all know that welfare mamas pop babies out for the money, subby.  You aren't fooling anyone!!
 
2013-12-06 01:56:45 PM
There will quickly be someone who will complain the poor don't suffer nearly enough, and how great it must be to sit on your ass playing Xbox every day.

Yet I've never seen that guy decide to be poor, which is weird cause he's always saying how awesome it must be.

Being poor is free! Quit your dumb job then sucker! Be poor and live the high life!

/oh wait
 
2013-12-06 01:58:23 PM
6. Go to bed 3 hours before their first job starts.

I had to get up in the morning, at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay the mill owner for permission to come to work.
 
2013-12-06 02:00:20 PM
And someone stole my "at the"!
 
2013-12-06 02:05:43 PM

Sybarite: 6. Go to bed 3 hours before their first job starts.

I had to get up in the morning, at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay the mill owner for permission to come to work.


Luxury!
 
2013-12-06 02:16:21 PM
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2013-12-06 02:26:37 PM
Where is "open their refrigerator!!!"
 
2013-12-06 02:36:31 PM
That's before you even get into the massive time-suck that is public transportation. My doctor's office is about a 20 minute drive for me. When I took the bus, thanks to how the connections worked out, it was 95 minutes. Oh, and to be on time for my appointment, since the last leg only ran hourly, I got to the office 40 minutes early. And I honestly don't remember how long I waited at the stop to get home, but it wasn't immediate.

40 minute round trip in a car, or 4 hours plus on a bus. Time is money, and poor people get less of both.
 
2013-12-06 02:53:36 PM
This is actually among the "better off" folks too, I know a few that save up because they want to go on an expensive vacation.
 
2013-12-06 03:10:44 PM
My ex-roommate got out of prison and was introduced to us through our landlord as a great new roommate. He had an ankle bracelet on but was pretty much a non-violent drunk driver (more accurately ex-driver). He couldn't find a job and moved into a shelter for homeless veterans.

He was an ardent Republican.
 
2013-12-06 03:29:05 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: My ex-roommate got out of prison and was introduced to us through our landlord as a great new roommate. He had an ankle bracelet on but was pretty much a non-violent drunk driver (more accurately ex-driver). He couldn't find a job and moved into a shelter for homeless veterans.

He was an ardent Republican.


The only thing poor people hate more than rich people is other poor people.
 
2013-12-06 03:51:44 PM
They buy fat people food because they are fat and strike at Walmart.
 
2013-12-06 03:52:33 PM
"7. Try to avoid getting beat up by someone they love. "

well hey.... don't we all ?
 
2013-12-06 03:53:41 PM
I didn't read the rest of your blog, but this post didn't suck.
 
2013-12-06 03:54:31 PM
Wow, that response Dave Ramsey posted on his web site is a little...uh...insane.
 
2013-12-06 03:54:37 PM
Yet most of them have a smart phone.
 
2013-12-06 03:58:22 PM
#9.   Don't pay close attention.


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2013-12-06 03:59:08 PM

Sybarite: 6. Go to bed 3 hours before their first job starts.

I had to get up in the morning, at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay the mill owner for permission to come to work.


Twenty nine hour work days were considered part time at the acid mines I worked in as a toddler.
 
2013-12-06 03:59:12 PM
"Shut up and clean my toilet and raise my kids and stop whining!  You get a free bus pass from us!"  Man, when the other shoe drops around this bloated monstrosity of a feudal system, I hope I'm accidentally in another country that has a liberal refugee policy.
 
2013-12-06 03:59:28 PM

kdawg7736: This is actually among the "better off" folks too, I know a few that save up because they want to go on an expensive vacation.


A woman I know was freaking out about needing a mammogram because she thought she'd found a lump.  Fretted, stressed, and biatched that she couldn't afford one (no insurance) and didn't qualify for public assistance.  Finally found a free screening through some charity in NYC (thankfully, it was clean).  The next month, she and her husband spent a week in Key West because they'd saved up for it all year.

/He's unemployed, she's a hairdresser who makes about $25-30K/year.
//They vote Republican
///Obamacare is socialism
 
2013-12-06 03:59:55 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Yet most of them have a smart phone.


AND MICROWAVES.

$35 on a monthly plan was what my last phone cost.  And often times smart phone is all people have - no internet at home.  In that case, $35 a month for a way to answer your email and get messages and calls without having to go to the library is pretty damn prudent.
 
2013-12-06 04:01:49 PM
It's been proven to be a bad idea when a handful of people are eating lobster in the back of their Bentleys whilst earnestly asking the rabble " You a have a roof, of sorts.  You eat.  You're not naked.  What else do you WANT?"
 
2013-12-06 04:01:51 PM

talulahgosh: We all know that welfare mamas pop babies out for the money, subby.  You aren't fooling anyone!!


I've got to admit this one surprised me. Their statistic is a bit biased,* but it seems that people on welfare have roughly the same fertility rate as the general population.

*The link they used to support this led to welfare recipients, who are young (average age 30.5, compared to the nationwide median of 36.8). On average, people on welfare had 1.9 children, which, on the surface, implies they have the same number of children as the nationwide average of 1.88 children/woman. The problem is that many of these women on welfare aren't done having children yet as of the time of the survey, while the 1.88 is over the total lifetime. Overall, the rates are probably similar, but welfare recipients might have a slightly higher fertility rate if you used comparable statistics.
 
2013-12-06 04:02:18 PM
The American Dream is a very old, broken horse that is nearing the end of it's time.
 
2013-12-06 04:02:44 PM
As someone who grew up poor and was sometimes homeless, and who thanks to hard work and even more luck and now has an excellent job, nice house, and beautiful family...I get really irritated when my wife's father's family complains about how the poor are lazy and should just don't want to work, when they are the children of a millionaire who paid to put them all through school, bought them all houses and, every few years, new cars.
 
2013-12-06 04:03:43 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Yet most of them have a smart phone.


You damn well better believe that if my housing/employment/financial situation became precarious, the last thing I would give up is my smart phone. That thing is a mobile office, organizer, map, bank, and search tool, not to mention communication device. You'd be stupid to give that up unless you absolutely had to. But I expect you realize that, because your post is crafted to appeal to the stupids.
 
2013-12-06 04:04:10 PM
11. Raise kids who will be poor.

Don't have kids you can't afford.
 
2013-12-06 04:04:35 PM
Remember that scene in 40-year-old Virgin where Steve Carell wakes up from a nightmare about still being fat? I have that nightmare about being poor.

Having been both shoeless-homeless-food stamps-welfare-free school lunch-no money for the dentist or doctor-poor and upper-upper-middle class, I have this to say: people who have never been poor have no farking idea what they're talking about and should shut the fark up. About the poor. They can certainly talk about any number of other things that they might know something about.
 
2013-12-06 04:04:35 PM
That article reads like a list of bad life decisions.
 
2013-12-06 04:06:11 PM

trickymoo: The American Dream is a very old, broken horse that is nearing the end of it's time.


Because it counted on the people who made the most returning wealth to the stack through jobs, community improvement and equitable tax bases.  Not waving their checkbooks at each other like schoolboys comparing dick sizes by the monkey bars every time they manage to strip another mil out of the functioning economy.  America was a business plan.  Welcome to the fire sale.  Moving to a location nowhere near here, soon.
 
2013-12-06 04:06:43 PM
My OUTRAGED Tea Party FB friend was all up in arms that the unions apparently paid protesters to protest while WalMart workers had to work. NOW he's pissed that the fast food wage protest is being attended by people who "obviously" don't work at the restaurants they are protesting.

A normal person would note that this is because the farking POOR people have to work. Instead, apparently It's Protestghazi.
 
2013-12-06 04:07:03 PM

brigid_fitch: kdawg7736: This is actually among the "better off" folks too, I know a few that save up because they want to go on an expensive vacation.

A woman I know was freaking out about needing a mammogram because she thought she'd found a lump.  Fretted, stressed, and biatched that she couldn't afford one (no insurance) and didn't qualify for public assistance.  Finally found a free screening through some charity in NYC (thankfully, it was clean).  The next month, she and her husband spent a week in Key West because they'd saved up for it all year.

/He's unemployed, she's a hairdresser who makes about $25-30K/year.
//They vote Republican
///Obamacare is socialism


It would have been a lot easier for her, and others like her, if only she'd decided to pull herself up by her bootstraps and get herself born into a family of means.
 
2013-12-06 04:07:37 PM

trickymoo: The American Dream is a very old, broken horse that is nearing the end of it's time.


Good riddance. The American dream had a very large per capita carbon footprint, and used unsustainable fresh water resources.
 
2013-12-06 04:08:07 PM
#21:  Have a refrigerator
 
2013-12-06 04:08:13 PM
They all got Obama phones, what do they want?
 
2013-12-06 04:08:31 PM
I've been the sort of poor that this guy is talking about and some of this he knows is false.  $133 in food stamps isn't the only money poor people have for food and he knows that.  The truth isn't so much better, of course, so why doesn't he tell the truth?  "Try to make $133 worth of food last a whole month" simply isn't happening.  You go to the local Loaves and Fishes; you eat at friends' houses; you get the day-old food from the supermarket; you eat at Food Not Bombs in Caesar Chavez Park on Thursday night; you ask the Salvation Army for help.  Charity is everywhere in this country; why does this guy have to lie?
 
2013-12-06 04:08:33 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: 11. Raise kids who will be poor.

Don't have kids you can't afford.


Would you like a trans-vaginal ultrasound with your platitude? They're not free, but they're mandatory. Please scoot your bottom all the way to the end of the table.
 
2013-12-06 04:09:06 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: My ex-roommate got out of prison and was introduced to us through our landlord as a great new roommate. He had an ankle bracelet on but was pretty much a non-violent drunk driver (more accurately ex-driver). He couldn't find a job and moved into a shelter for homeless veterans.

He was an ardent Republican.


Col Sanders can always count on the chicken's votes.
 
2013-12-06 04:09:10 PM
An interesting, fair list.  One thing, though, FTFA:

16. Use drugs and alcohol pretty much the same as (or less than) everyone else.
Despite the common picture of inner city crack houses, drug use is pretty evenly spread across income groups. And rich people actually abuse alcohol more than the poor.


Most of the other factoids, they put things in terms of a fraction of their income.  What percentage of the poor's income goes toward cigarette, drug and alcohol use?
 
2013-12-06 04:09:25 PM

Gonz: That's before you even get into the massive time-suck that is public transportation. My doctor's office is about a 20 minute drive for me. When I took the bus, thanks to how the connections worked out, it was 95 minutes. Oh, and to be on time for my appointment, since the last leg only ran hourly, I got to the office 40 minutes early. And I honestly don't remember how long I waited at the stop to get home, but it wasn't immediate.

40 minute round trip in a car, or 4 hours plus on a bus. Time is money, and poor people get less of both.


Yep, when I  moved here, it was a roughly 20 minute drive to/from work, or a 2 1/2 hour bus ride with 3 or 4 transfers. Even now, it's a 20 minute rail ride to the park and ride lot, which is nice, but they bus leaves the SAME minute the train pulls in, so I have to sit around for half an hour, then wait another half an hour to travels the last 3 miles or so.
 
2013-12-06 04:11:24 PM

brigid_fitch: #21:  Have a refrigerator


Grrrr, there's a reason the preview button exists

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2013-12-06 04:11:25 PM

Wangiss: Charity is everywhere in this country; why does this guy have to lie?


Why does a country that has a pack of liars making billions off of fistf*cking anything that holds still, and not paying a dime in taxes, have charity everywhere?
 
2013-12-06 04:11:25 PM

Wangiss: I've been the sort of poor that this guy is talking about and some of this he knows is false.  $133 in food stamps isn't the only money poor people have for food and he knows that.  The truth isn't so much better, of course, so why doesn't he tell the truth?  "Try to make $133 worth of food last a whole month" simply isn't happening.  You go to the local Loaves and Fishes; you eat at friends' houses; you get the day-old food from the supermarket; you eat at Food Not Bombs in Caesar Chavez Park on Thursday night; you ask the Salvation Army for help.  Charity is everywhere in this country; why does this guy have to lie?


I have too. This is just an anecdote, not data... but what I learned about so-called "Christian" charities as a child was this: if you hadn't converted by the fourth or fifth handout, they started getting pissy with you and would finally cut you off. Sooner rather than later. So IMHO, not even charity is easy for the poor.
 
2013-12-06 04:12:11 PM
Calling bullshiat on them being forced to buy low quality food because it's cheaper. For whatever reason poor people tend to buy gallons of soda each week, and food choices aren't much better. Because junk food serves as escapism for them, which is probably the saddest farking thing ever.
 
2013-12-06 04:12:44 PM

Wangiss: I've been the sort of poor that this guy is talking about and some of this he knows is false.  $133 in food stamps isn't the only money poor people have for food and he knows that.  The truth isn't so much better, of course, so why doesn't he tell the truth?  "Try to make $133 worth of food last a whole month" simply isn't happening.  You go to the local Loaves and Fishes; you eat at friends' houses; you get the day-old food from the supermarket; you eat at Food Not Bombs in Caesar Chavez Park on Thursday night; you ask the Salvation Army for help.  Charity is everywhere in this country; why does this guy have to lie?


The things you describe are a necessary part of trying to make $133 of food last a month. He could have detailed all the ways to make it work as you did, but that's not really the point. He wasn't writing a survival guide.
 
2013-12-06 04:12:54 PM

Wangiss: $133 in food stamps isn't the only money poor people have for food and he knows that.


Oh, yeah, I picked up cans on my "day off" and made enough for breakfasts, alone.
 
2013-12-06 04:13:30 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Calling bullshiat on them being forced to buy low quality food because it's cheaper. For whatever reason poor people tend to buy gallons of soda each week, and food choices aren't much better. Because junk food serves as escapism for them, which is probably the saddest farking thing ever.


Why don't you come to Chicago one weekend and go grocery shopping at an Aldi. I'll give you a hundred bucks if you find a single fresh fruit or vegetable.
 
2013-12-06 04:13:52 PM

brigid_fitch: kdawg7736: This is actually among the "better off" folks too, I know a few that save up because they want to go on an expensive vacation.

A woman I know was freaking out about needing a mammogram because she thought she'd found a lump.  Fretted, stressed, and biatched that she couldn't afford one (no insurance) and didn't qualify for public assistance.  Finally found a free screening through some charity in NYC (thankfully, it was clean).  The next month, she and her husband spent a week in Key West because they'd saved up for it all year.

/He's unemployed, she's a hairdresser who makes about $25-30K/year.
//They vote Republican
///Obamacare is socialism


Isn't that their choice?
 
2013-12-06 04:13:54 PM
Squabble over which console is better?
 
2013-12-06 04:15:08 PM

someonelse: He wasn't writing a survival guide.


Why does a country that moves trillions of dollars out of the treasury and into the pockets of thieves who decimated an entire economic sector need a survival guide for people who aren't thieves?
 
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