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2013-12-06 01:27:53 PM
Consequences will never be the same.
 
2013-12-06 01:29:24 PM
Is this a Lindy West article? If so, no thanks.
 
2013-12-06 01:29:52 PM
Has there always been ADD?

Like, would a caveman suddenly stop in the middle of making a cave painting to go hunt a dinosaur?
 
2013-12-06 01:30:02 PM
May as well jump on the bandwagon lady, you need em.
 
2013-12-06 01:31:33 PM
I took Vyvanse once just to see what would happen. I spent six hours cleaning every corner of my house. Never again.
 
2013-12-06 01:32:30 PM
Oh boy the overused adderall fight and the speed freaks who will defend their pills to the bitter end!

/love these threads
//I too feel like I'mcone of the very few who doesn't take ADD meds or anti depressants
 
2013-12-06 01:32:40 PM

FarkingReading: Has there always been ADD?

Like, would a caveman suddenly stop in the middle of making a cave painting to go hunt a dinosaur?


www.theatrehouse.com
Early Ritalin prototype?
 
2013-12-06 01:33:45 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Consequences will never be the same.


Shiat. I guess my work here is done...
 
2013-12-06 01:34:13 PM
A friend of mine was addicted to Adderall on his way through grad school.  The side effects aren't pleasant.
 
2013-12-06 01:34:44 PM
I can say that the results aren't universally rosy. I spent a few months on it and regressed back to barely leaving my house or talking to people. It tends to exacerbate anxiety disorders, for obvious reasons.
 
2013-12-06 01:36:40 PM
STOP TAKING ALL THE GOD DAMNED AMPHETAMINES!

/Those of us who actually need them for things like narcolepsy would like to pay less than $500 a bottle.

//Can't wait till I have insurance again next year.
 
2013-12-06 01:36:57 PM

basemetal: Oh boy the overused adderall fight and the speed freaks who will defend their pills to the bitter end!

/love these threads
//I too feel like I'mcone of the very few who doesn't take ADD meds or anti depressants


I dated one.  She was adderal upped through the day, and then valiumed down at night.  But it did make her freaky in the sack.

I was diagnosed with ADHD and I only took it a couple of times because that shiat jacked me up.
 
2013-12-06 01:39:38 PM
I'm betting that in 10 years, every child will be on either adderall or ritalin; every single one.
 
2013-12-06 01:39:41 PM
Uhmmm... no.
I've done a few gigs in Alabama and worked with quite a few electricians that get their focus and stamina from a bottle of pills.
One guy tried it and he absolutely kicked ass for the first week or so of the project.  After that, he became completely scatterbrained, aggressive, and useless.  When he stopped he crashed for a full day and when he came back he looked like death sucking on a life saver.

A couple of the other guys had been buying & selling pills for a while and were a little farther down the road.  It was obvious by looking at their work who was using, and dope test later confirmed it.  Their stuff had to be ripped out and redone.  The work was so bad it was simply nonrecoverable.

It's farking meth, people.  Just don't.
 
2013-12-06 01:40:49 PM

TheDirtyNacho: A friend of mine was addicted to Adderall on his way through grad school.  The side effects aren't pleasant.



Also, it took him several extra years to get through grad school even with the 'help' of adderall.  He did seem to go singlemindedly down rabbit holes, just not the helpful ones.  I don't think it's the magic wunder pill some claim it is.  It doesn't create superhuman powers or expand cognition in neurotypical people.
 
2013-12-06 01:41:01 PM
I wish I'd been around for all the Bennies you could eat back in the 60s.
 
2013-12-06 01:43:09 PM
tl;dr
 
2013-12-06 01:43:46 PM
Don't like speedy things.

Life is moving really farking fast, if you don't stop and look around once in a while you might miss it.
 
2013-12-06 01:44:32 PM
I'll just stick with the devil weed, thanks.
 
2013-12-06 01:44:45 PM
Productivity must increase! If you need to ruin your body for the "greater good" so be it. Oh an your not getting health insurance (part-time only).

Hookers and blow cost money people! Won't some PLEASE think of the CEOs?!
 
2013-12-06 01:44:58 PM

Shadow Blasko: STOP TAKING ALL THE GOD DAMNED AMPHETAMINES!

/Those of us who actually need them for things like narcolepsy would like to pay less than $500 a bottle.

//Can't wait till I have insurance again next year.


Every pharmacy is chronically out of stock in my area.  I now have to get advance approval from my Dr. to have it count towards my 4k deductible when I buy it.
Without this medicine, I would have a really hard time getting my work finished on time, or even remembering what task I am working on.
The bad old days before this medicine and I would drink 15 cups of coffee a day.
I have no side effects unless I take more than I need, then I chew the sides of my mouth or tongue.
I have no withdrawal symptoms other than I fall asleep in traffic, fall asleep at my desk, fall asleep anywhere I manage to sit down and some places I fall asleep on my feet.
I still need caffeine while I am taking the medicine but only about 3 energy drinks a day.
 
2013-12-06 01:45:13 PM
I had a manager once that swore up and down that Adderall was the greatest thing ever and encouraged us all to get a prescription. He even went as far to tell us what to say to or doctor so that they would diagnose us with Adult ADD and prescribe it to us.
 
2013-12-06 01:45:20 PM

FarkingReading: Has there always been ADD?

Like, would a caveman suddenly stop in the middle of making a cave painting to go hunt a dinosaur?


Almost certainly. But it is believed for various reasons it is more prevalent today than historically, and that its effects are more deleterious in the modern world than historically. One theory even holds that ADD was once an adaptive trait that has become maladaptive owing to the advance of technology. There are, after all, many positive characteristics associated with ADD, including creativity, occasional "lazer focus," and charisma.
 
2013-12-06 01:45:21 PM

basemetal: Oh boy the overused adderall fight and the speed freaks who will defend their pills to the bitter end!

/love these threads
//I too feel like I'mcone of the very few who doesn't take ADD meds or anti depressants


I love Jezebel threads almost every time.  I get all the entertainment (and more--people on Fark have a sense of humor) with none of the death threats.  They target the silliest issues there and we get the cream of the crop.  It's a match made in some sort of heaven of hells.
 
2013-12-06 01:45:57 PM
Turns me into an absolute raging asshole as it wears off. Just angry and on edge. I've done a pretty wide variety of drugs when I was younger, and it's the only one that noticeably changed me during the comedown. I'm including things like ecstasy and cocaine in this observation. Hell, I'd rather be hungover after some heavy boozing.

The adderal feeling is nice, and you can seriously get things done, but I never found it worth being a total dickbag for a few hours afterward. I'm also 100% positive that everyone's experiences are different. Psychoactive drugs are like that...
 
2013-12-06 01:47:42 PM

TheDirtyNacho: TheDirtyNacho: A friend of mine was addicted to Adderall on his way through grad school.  The side effects aren't pleasant.


Also, it took him several extra years to get through grad school even with the 'help' of adderall.  He did seem to go singlemindedly down rabbit holes, just not the helpful ones.  I don't think it's the magic wunder pill some claim it is.  It doesn't create superhuman powers or expand cognition in neurotypical people.


But it makes you feel good!!!!

/so therefore they think they are doing better work......
 
2013-12-06 01:48:08 PM
As someone with severe ADD, I have a hard time understanding what it means to be "addicted" to Adderall or similar drugs.  I mean, when I first went on it (at the lowest therapeutic dosage), the instant relief from all the distractions (including the constant running theme in my head that I was stupid, forgetful, lazy, etc.) was so extreme that I almost cried.  It was as though a loud radio had been switched off and I could think slowly, carefully, and normally for the first time in my life.  I've been lucky enough not to suffer any side effects, and I expect to be on this drug for the rest of my life. I don't consider that an addiction, because the scientific consensus (as I understand it) is that ADD is not curable and that medication is the single most effective treatment for it.

So what is exactly is the social view of the "addiction" problem?  Is it a concern that people without ADD are obtaining it and taking erratic or extreme doses and then suffering OD or withdrawal symptoms?  Or is this more a general concern that people are using this "off-label" and we don't really understand the impact of this for those users?  TFA went on about the dystopia that involves "cosmetic neurology" and it seems many ADD-related addiction articles tend to take these extremist views.  Is it just because there's a perception that everyone misusing it is under 21?
 
2013-12-06 01:48:13 PM

Baz744: FarkingReading: Has there always been ADD?

Like, would a caveman suddenly stop in the middle of making a cave painting to go hunt a dinosaur?

Almost certainly. But it is believed for various reasons it is more prevalent today than historically, and that its effects are more deleterious in the modern world than historically. One theory even holds that ADD was once an adaptive trait that has become maladaptive owing to the advance of technology. There are, after all, many positive characteristics associated with ADD, including creativity, occasional "lazer focus," and charisma.


That's interesti-- wait. Must go hunt a dinosaur now.

/no seriously, that was interesting and I've been wondering it and I was too lazy to google
 
2013-12-06 01:50:58 PM

FarkingReading: Baz744: FarkingReading: Has there always been ADD?

Like, would a caveman suddenly stop in the middle of making a cave painting to go hunt a dinosaur?

Almost certainly. But it is believed for various reasons it is more prevalent today than historically, and that its effects are more deleterious in the modern world than historically. One theory even holds that ADD was once an adaptive trait that has become maladaptive owing to the advance of technology. There are, after all, many positive characteristics associated with ADD, including creativity, occasional "lazer focus," and charisma.

That's interesti-- wait. Must go hunt a dinosaur now.

/no seriously, that was interesting and I've been wondering it and I was too lazy to google


It might be a little dated now. We surely know more about ADD than when it was written. But if you're curious, I recommend Driven to Distraction.
 
2013-12-06 01:51:09 PM

basemetal: Oh boy the overused adderall fight and the speed freaks who will defend their pills to the bitter end!

/love these threads
//I too feel like I'mcone of the very few who doesn't take ADD meds or anti depressants


Ain't it great not being defective?
 
2013-12-06 01:53:41 PM
didn't RTFA but prefer caffeine kthnx.
 
2013-12-06 01:54:17 PM
The Raperiarchy is to blame.

/DNRTFA
//But, It's Jezebel so.....
 
2013-12-06 01:56:05 PM
I tried some adderall a couple months ago. I thought it was awful. It lasted two days and I felt disconnected from everything but immediate experience.

I suppose if you need an army of mindless drones who are chemically incapable of seeing the world they are making for themselves to live in, it could be effective.
 
2013-12-06 01:57:42 PM
Everyone is going to play for the Seahawks.
 
2013-12-06 01:58:29 PM
I heard adderall is like cocaine without the guilt. True or false?
 
2013-12-06 01:59:23 PM
It's hard to take an article seriously when they actually use "IDK" in the final draft.
 
2013-12-06 01:59:31 PM
As a person unfortunate to have been born with a penis, I'm afraid to click that link.
 
2013-12-06 02:00:10 PM
fark adderall, straight dextroamphetamine is the better molecule. Had so many side effects from adderall, depression on comedown, lack of appetite. Although I'm fairly certain that its been taken off market so Adderall is all anymore.

Dextrostat was just good, happy speed the whole time. Although after years of legitimate use for ADD I just.... had to stop. Killed my libido. Although its a lot harder to get any work done now, due to still having ADD.
 
2013-12-06 02:02:21 PM
i notice the discussed effect after taking 20 mg of a supplement named 'PQQ'.
 
2013-12-06 02:04:32 PM
That crap ruined a couple buddies. Of course they were idiots to begin with. They'd grind up anywhere from 3-5 pills and snort away just to begin the day. One was a boat captain and the other guy did tree removal and trimming. Their work pattern mirrored the experience of karlandtanya. Started off like gangbusters and soon were scatterbrained and irritable a-holes. One is now dead from overdose (shooting up prescribed oral opiates) and the other is broke ass, friendless loser living with meth whore. Either could have been the poster boy for Florida dopes on dope.
 
2013-12-06 02:06:08 PM

Snakeophelia: As someone with severe ADD, I have a hard time understanding what it means to be "addicted" to Adderall or similar drugs.  I mean, when I first went on it (at the lowest therapeutic dosage), the instant relief from all the distractions (including the constant running theme in my head that I was stupid, forgetful, lazy, etc.) was so extreme that I almost cried.  It was as though a loud radio had been switched off and I could think slowly, carefully, and normally for the first time in my life.  I've been lucky enough not to suffer any side effects, and I expect to be on this drug for the rest of my life. I don't consider that an addiction, because the scientific consensus (as I understand it) is that ADD is not curable and that medication is the single most effective treatment for it.

So what is exactly is the social view of the "addiction" problem?  Is it a concern that people without ADD are obtaining it and taking erratic or extreme doses and then suffering OD or withdrawal symptoms?  Or is this more a general concern that people are using this "off-label" and we don't really understand the impact of this for those users?  TFA went on about the dystopia that involves "cosmetic neurology" and it seems many ADD-related addiction articles tend to take these extremist views.  Is it just because there's a perception that everyone misusing it is under 21?


A lot of it is the view that ADD isn't real, that it's just a "medicalization" of irresponsible decision-making. That people who make bad choices just because they prefer to make bad choices over good ones are becoming dependent on stimulants because they don't really need them in the first place.

Nobody locked in authoritarian this mindset ever wonders why the people who just prefer to be irresponsible suddenly become more responsible when they take stimulants. You'd think, after all, that stimulants would just make an irresponsible person better at being irresponsible. Why would Jimmy stop playing video games and work on his schoolwork when he takes a pill if the pill didn't help an actual condition? Wouldn't the pill just make him better at video games?

Unfortunately, there's still no pill to cure stupid.
 
2013-12-06 02:07:25 PM
Stay as far the fark away from amphetamines as you can.
 
2013-12-06 02:07:38 PM

FarkingReading: Has there always been ADD?

Like, would a caveman suddenly stop in the middle of making a cave painting to go hunt a dinosaur?


Many of my friends including me have ADD. I will literally start talking about how crappy my day was say to a friend or my wife, and get distracted by something totally different without even stopping the conversation. If you have seen the James Woods episode of Family Guy when they capture him the second time "Ok peter I'm here..." ... "oo a piece of candy".

To my wife:
"My job is crap, my manager is no longer acting like a leader and I am trying my best to..." "Oh man I forgot we need toilet paper be back in 10 minutes.".
 
2013-12-06 02:08:13 PM

Shadow Blasko: STOP TAKING ALL THE GOD DAMNED AMPHETAMINES!

/Those of us who actually need them for things like narcolepsy would like to pay less than $500 a bottle.

//Can't wait till I have insurance again next year.


The instant release versions are only around $50. Yeah dosing every 3-4 hours is a pain in the ass but an extra $450 in my pocket is an extra $450.
 
2013-12-06 02:09:35 PM

basemetal: Oh boy the overused adderall fight and the speed freaks who will defend their pills to the bitter end!

/love these threads
//I too feel like I'mcone of the very few who doesn't take ADD meds or anti depressants


Funny thing about this fight is that, in my experience, the ones that need the anti depressants most are the only ones that aren't on them.
 
2013-12-06 02:09:42 PM

FarkingReading: Has there always been ADD?

Like, would a caveman suddenly stop in the middle of making a cave painting to go hunt a dinosaur?


From "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"
ARTHUR: Oh, shut up. Well, does it say anything else?
MAYNARD: No. Just, 'aaaaarrrrrrggghhh'.
LAUNCELOT: Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh.
ARTHUR: Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh.
BEDEMIR: You don't suppose he meant the Camargue?
GALAHAD: Where's that?
BEDEMIR: France, I think.
LAUNCELOT: Isn't there a Saint Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh's in Cornwall?
ARTHUR: No, that's Saint Ives.
LAUNCELOT: Oh, yes. Saint Iiiives.
SEVERAL: Iiiiives.


That explains why it just tails off.
 
2013-12-06 02:11:19 PM
I'm the first with this???

2.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com

FARK I am VERY dissapoint!

/hot like Brie
 
2013-12-06 02:12:08 PM
Adderall and the Furious?
 
2013-12-06 02:12:11 PM

Snakeophelia: As someone with severe ADD, I have a hard time understanding what it means to be "addicted" to Adderall or similar drugs.  I mean, when I first went on it (at the lowest therapeutic dosage), the instant relief from all the distractions (including the constant running theme in my head that I was stupid, forgetful, lazy, etc.) was so extreme that I almost cried.  It was as though a loud radio had been switched off and I could think slowly, carefully, and normally for the first time in my life.  I've been lucky enough not to suffer any side effects, and I expect to be on this drug for the rest of my life. I don't consider that an addiction, because the scientific consensus (as I understand it) is that ADD is not curable and that medication is the single most effective treatment for it.

So what is exactly is the social view of the "addiction" problem?  Is it a concern that people without ADD are obtaining it and taking erratic or extreme doses and then suffering OD or withdrawal symptoms?  Or is this more a general concern that people are using this "off-label" and we don't really understand the impact of this for those users?  TFA went on about the dystopia that involves "cosmetic neurology" and it seems many ADD-related addiction articles tend to take these extremist views.  Is it just because there's a perception that everyone misusing it is under 21?


Denial! You're addicted.

On a more serious note the medication works differently for different people. Off label use and abuse/ over-use are the main concerns here.
 
2013-12-06 02:14:27 PM

vudukungfu: As a person unfortunate to have been born with a penis, I'm afraid to click that link.


I'm curious how increasingly widespread Adderall addiction is a symptom of rape culture and the patriarchy but not curious enough to give Jezebel a click. My guess is it's because "reasons".
 
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