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(Business Standard)   Russian oligarch who opposed Putin to get charged again when his first jail term is up   (business-standard.com) divider line 30
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2013-12-06 12:11:46 PM  
The KGB doesn't fall far from the tree.
 
2013-12-06 12:12:14 PM  
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2013-12-06 12:18:57 PM  
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

One Stalin's old methods. "OK, comrade, your sentence, in the gulag, is up.  But, luckily for you, your in the bonus round, so you get another ten years.  Ah, you can't beat fun at the ol' gulag!"  Putin's probably pissed that he isn't dead from TB yet.
 
2013-12-06 12:31:51 PM  
In Russia, prison sentence gets you!
 
2013-12-06 12:36:15 PM  
I present to you the Conservative, and CH, hero: Vladimir 'you oppose me, go to jail' Putin!

Probably because it's what they would love to do to 'dim' (dummycrat) voters and 'Dingy' Harry Reid and of course the blah guy that cheated himself into two terms.
 
2013-12-06 12:47:26 PM  
It makes sense Edward Snowden would find refuge in this country which is such a shining beacon of freedom. I am surprised his American supporters don't follow him there, as the U.S.A. is such an unfree hellhole.
 
2013-12-06 01:05:38 PM  
It is never wise to go up against General Secretary Putin.
 
2013-12-06 01:06:22 PM  
Yeah, Putin took care of this asshole.
 
2013-12-06 01:11:43 PM  
Not that Putin is a nice guy or anything, but this guy was one of those Oligarchs who got incredibly rich when the former Soviet Union was handing out the rights to its natural resources like candy. I don't have much sympathy for him.
 
2013-12-06 01:18:08 PM  
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2013-12-06 01:21:49 PM  

manwithplanx: Not that Putin is a nice guy or anything, but this guy was one of those Oligarchs who got incredibly rich when the former Soviet Union was handing out the rights to its natural resources like candy. I don't have much sympathy for him.


The smart ones all fled to western Europe.  I have no idea what Khodorkovsky was thinking challenging Putin, but he was obviously mistaken.
 
2013-12-06 01:22:07 PM  

manwithplanx: Not that Putin is a nice guy or anything, but this guy was one of those Oligarchs who got incredibly rich when the former Soviet Union was handing out the rights to its natural resources like candy. I don't have much sympathy for him.


What exactly is wrong about getting rich?
 
2013-12-06 01:23:55 PM  

ComicBookGuy: It makes sense Edward Snowden would find refuge in this country which is such a shining beacon of freedom. I am surprised his American supporters don't follow him there, as the U.S.A. is such an unfree hellhole.


Yeah, I'm always puzzled when people say "but he was scared of what might happen if he stayed in the US"
 
2013-12-06 01:44:12 PM  
This sort of happened to a friend of mine once.  He was in jail for something, and he was finally released.  He thought he was on his way home.  As it happened, he walked outside to find a van waiting to take him to a different jail for a different set of offenses.
 
2013-12-06 01:44:47 PM  

LewDux: manwithplanx: Not that Putin is a nice guy or anything, but this guy was one of those Oligarchs who got incredibly rich when the former Soviet Union was handing out the rights to its natural resources like candy. I don't have much sympathy for him.

What exactly is wrong about getting rich?


Nothing, but when your country goes from 'everyone owns all the minerals' to 'individuals own rights to minerals' you have to make sure that 'individuals' doesn't become 'one guy'. Mr  Khodorkovsky used his connections with former Communist leaders to ensure that his company received the lion's share of oil contracts in Siberia. The Yeltsin government was horrible
 
2013-12-06 01:56:42 PM  

inglixthemad: I present to you the Conservative, and CH, hero: Vladimir 'you oppose me, go to jail' Putin!

Probably because it's what they would love to do to 'dim' (dummycrat) voters and 'Dingy' Harry Reid and of course the blah guy that cheated himself into two terms.


ComicBookGuy: It makes sense Edward Snowden would find refuge in this country which is such a shining beacon of freedom. I am surprised his American supporters don't follow him there, as the U.S.A. is such an unfree hellhole.


That these posts were made back-to-back is beautiful.
 
2013-12-06 02:03:53 PM  

inglixthemad: I present to you the Conservative, and CH, hero: Vladimir 'you oppose me, go to jail' Putin!

Probably because it's what they would love to do to 'dim' (dummycrat) voters and 'Dingy' Harry Reid and of course the blah guy that cheated himself into two terms.




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2013-12-06 02:09:03 PM  

hasty ambush: inglixthemad: I present to you the Conservative, and CH, hero: Vladimir 'you oppose me, go to jail' Putin!

Probably because it's what they would love to do to 'dim' (dummycrat) voters and 'Dingy' Harry Reid and of course the blah guy that cheated himself into two terms.

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2013-12-06 02:12:11 PM  

manwithplanx: Nothing, but when your country goes from 'everyone owns all the minerals'


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2013-12-06 03:13:32 PM  
LewDux

What exactly is wrong about getting rich?

Absolutely nothing, so long as you do it right, meaning not screwing everyone you do business with, not screwing your customers, following business laws and regulations and not f**king over your employees, especially the low level ones.

Remember the rich guys who did hostile takeovers on factories and businesses just to break them up and sell off the assets for profit, never intending to go in business with them? They callously put a lot of folks out of work.

Just look at our sitting Congress. It's one of the most heavily bought out Congresses ever. Why do you think Riders are still allowed on unrelated bills? Congress keeps voting to keep them because they assure money for special interest groups. Two presidents have fought for a line item veto to get rid of riders smuggled into bills and only partially succeeded.

Not all, but the majority of your rich became so by using unsavory practices. Many such practices have affected your quality of living by deliberately driving prices up. Some have endangered your health.

Like the SUV exploding tires, where the company knew about them before releasing the vehicle but decided the cost of holding off and replacing them would be more than any subsequent lawsuits. The same with the infamous Pinto -- for which engineers had developed a rubber gas tank bladder to prevent gas tank explosions, but the company chose not to retroactively use it, to save money.

That is the wrong way of getting rich.
 
2013-12-06 03:27:32 PM  
В Америке вы нарушаете закон. В Советской России, закон нарушает вас!
 
2013-12-06 03:32:20 PM  

Gyrfalcon: ComicBookGuy: It makes sense Edward Snowden would find refuge in this country which is such a shining beacon of freedom. I am surprised his American supporters don't follow him there, as the U.S.A. is such an unfree hellhole.

Yeah, I'm always puzzled when people say "but he was scared of what might happen if he stayed in the US"



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2013-12-06 05:05:35 PM  

inglixthemad: I present to you the Conservative, and CH, hero: Vladimir 'you oppose me, go to jail' Putin!

Probably because it's what they would love to do to 'dim' (dummycrat) voters and 'Dingy' Harry Reid and of course the blah guy that cheated himself into two terms.


I don't know how strong the crack was when GwB looked into pooties eyes and fell in love but there is nothing in Putin's ideology that correspondes with conservative, or even western right wing ideals. He is simply a totalitarian control freak. Rather than go full communism he's plundering Russia.
 
2013-12-06 05:43:40 PM  

LewDux: manwithplanx: Not that Putin is a nice guy or anything, but this guy was one of those Oligarchs who got incredibly rich when the former Soviet Union was handing out the rights to its natural resources like candy. I don't have much sympathy for him.

What exactly is wrong about getting rich?


It's a sign of rampant corruption. Not to mention, these people really effed up the country. Also, you don't know the sheer scale of the situation. They say most of the economy is controlled by 8 individuals who used the free-for-all period in the 90s to get their fortunes. Unlike in the Soviet Era, none of that money goes back into the economy. Several of them took their money and left the country for western Europe once things began to even out. These top people have no loyalty and no accountability. There will never be real freedom if these people are allowed to grab up the resources without putting anything back into the system.
 
2013-12-06 06:11:53 PM  

ComicBookGuy: It makes sense Edward Snowden would find refuge in this country which is such a shining beacon of freedom. I am surprised his American supporters don't follow him there, as the U.S.A. is such an unfree hellhole.


Outsource a tech job there, as your kind have been wont to do to that beacon of freedom in China, and maybe I'll go there.
 
2013-12-06 06:17:31 PM  

strelyali: Not to mention, these people really effed up the country.


because before things were going so well
 
2013-12-06 10:47:00 PM  

LewDux: manwithplanx: Not that Putin is a nice guy or anything, but this guy was one of those Oligarchs who got incredibly rich when the former Soviet Union was handing out the rights to its natural resources like candy. I don't have much sympathy for him.

What exactly is wrong about getting rich?


The problem is not that this guy got rich, it is that he and all the others simply stole the entire wealth of the former soviet union.

There is literally no way a handful of former party men, smugglers and military types could have legitimately acquired these assets. It is completely inconceivable that they (or anyone short of national governments or the biggest international conglomerates) could have ever raised the trillions involved.

The problem is not that he is in jail, it is that ONLY he is in jail while the ones who are 'okay with the boss' are still massively wealthy on the basis of enormous fraud and theft.
 
2013-12-07 05:28:35 AM  
Amnesty International has declared Russian businessmen Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Platon Lebedev prisoners of conscience after the two men's convictions on money laundering were today upheld by a Moscow court.


gaspode: The problem is not that he is in jail, it is that ONLY he is in jail while the ones who are 'okay with the boss' are still massively wealthy on the basis of enormous fraud and theft.


You're the only one who thinks it's a problem

Stole from whom?
 
2013-12-07 05:54:06 AM  

LewDux: Amnesty International has declared Russian businessmen Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Platon Lebedev prisoners of conscience after the two men's convictions on money laundering were today upheld by a Moscow court.


gaspode: The problem is not that he is in jail, it is that ONLY he is in jail while the ones who are 'okay with the boss' are still massively wealthy on the basis of enormous fraud and theft.

You're the only one who thinks it's a problem

Stole from whom?


Are you even serious? Ask a russian if they think it is a problem.

When the soviet union broke up, and mostly while a fat drunk was 'leader', the mineral wealth and infrastructure worth vast amounts, all which belonged to the people of the countries making up the former union of course, were stolen by a group of criminals and ex-functionaries with the assistance of the corrupt government officials while the fat drunk slept on planes. Men simply 'became' overnight the owners of billions.

Your ignorance of something doesnt make it unreal or even unimportant.

It is obvious however that the actual charges this person is in jail for are entirely trumped up and political of course.. amnesty is correct.

The things the oligarchs SHOULD be in jail for could never be recognised by Putin or the russian government as a whole because he/they are in it as dirty as anyone else.
 
2013-12-07 08:01:34 AM  

gaspode: LewDux:

Stole from whom?

Are you even serious? Ask a russian if they think it is a problem.


Which one (of logical fallacies is this)?

When the soviet union broke up, and mostly while a fat drunk was 'leader', the mineral wealth and infrastructure worth vast amounts, all which belonged to the people
..

Theoretically. So theoretically it's not even funny. Basicaly you're accusing Khodorkovksy of stealing from thieves
 
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