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2013-12-06 06:59:26 AM
I love that stuff.

www.yakiniquest.com

I wouldn't risk eating it in the US, but definitely anywhere chickens are vaccinated for salmonella.
 
2013-12-06 07:33:50 AM
For us it used to be a Christmas Eve tradition.  We called it Beef Steak Tartar.  It was great.  Wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole today.  Way too risky.

/Not to be confused with a 9' czech
 
2013-12-06 07:38:31 AM
Steak? Slap the cow in the ass, run it by a grill, and call it done.

Raw ground beef that you didn't make yourself? I'll stick with the pretzels.
 
2013-12-06 08:07:31 AM
Eating raw store-bought ground chuck is disgusting and dangerous. The entire mass of meat is exposed to the air and busy gathering bacteria from the moment it's ground, not including what it picked up going through the grinder. It's fine for burgers or meatloaf.

To eat it raw you need to use a good steak like a sirloin, and in my experience it's knife-chopped and not too long before it's served.

Then again, I'm from away.
 
2013-12-06 08:16:21 AM

Barfmaker: Eating raw store-bought ground chuck is disgusting and dangerous. The entire mass of meat is exposed to the air and busy gathering bacteria from the moment it's ground, not including what it picked up going through the grinder. It's fine for burgers or meatloaf.

To eat it raw you need to use a good steak like a sirloin, and in my experience it's knife-chopped and not too long before it's served.

Then again, I'm from away.


This. I have a meat grinder attachment for my Kitchen-Aid, so I'll grind my own meat for steak tartare. Also, you can find pasteurized eggs in some grocery stores.
 
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2013-12-06 08:26:59 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I wouldn't risk eating it in the US, but definitely anywhere chickens are vaccinated for salmonella.


I am pretty sure ground beef doesn't come from chickens.
 
2013-12-06 08:31:11 AM

vpb: AverageAmericanGuy: I wouldn't risk eating it in the US, but definitely anywhere chickens are vaccinated for salmonella.

I am pretty sure ground beef doesn't come from chickens.


Then something's seriously wrong, bro.
 
2013-12-06 08:33:05 AM
It's always okay to eat it without getting sick. I don't care for the odds of that being the case, though
 
2013-12-06 09:07:18 AM
Uh, no.
 
2013-12-06 09:11:05 AM
Food poisoning is misery. I'll eat a medium-rare burger or steak at a restaurant I trust, but if it's at home it's getting pretty cooked.
 
2013-12-06 09:12:18 AM
Ground beef is one of the most dangerous meats to eat raw or under cooked. This is like playing Russian Roulette. Talk about thinning the heard.
 
2013-12-06 09:12:46 AM
if you want to Darwin yourself, go for it

/if it's done right, good, but good luck with that
 
2013-12-06 09:13:32 AM
Yes! A chance to post THIS. (SFW, if you can avoid laughing)
 
2013-12-06 09:15:45 AM
I get my beef a half at a time, raised on the family farm and processed at a local locker. I wouldn't be afraid to eat it raw. There is no way I would do that with store-bought burger though. I can barely stand to eat that crap when it's fully cooked. The texture is all wrong.
 
2013-12-06 09:16:44 AM
Nasty, nasty, nasty! Yes I've had it before and no I have no aversion to eating raw meats (I eat sushi all the time). Raw egg and raw ground beef however is the nastiest combination ever thrown together. Yuck.
 
2013-12-06 09:17:39 AM
It's important that the egg be in there.  The salmonella and the e. coli kill each other off, leaving it in a sterile condition.

/should be served on a cold, cold ceramic plate
//and chopped, not ground
///and at a good French cafe, not Grandma's basement
 
2013-12-06 09:17:56 AM
www.health32.com
 
2013-12-06 09:18:50 AM

washington-babylon: Yes! A chance to post THIS. (SFW, if you can avoid laughing)


I remember that one.  Hilarious, in a "OH MY GOD!  THAT'S NOT SPAGHETTI!" kind of way.
And never GIS anything involving "ascaris" or any kind of internal worm parasite.  Or harlequin disease or...
 
2013-12-06 09:19:59 AM

Barfmaker: Eating raw store-bought ground chuck is disgusting and dangerous. The entire mass of meat is exposed to the air and busy gathering bacteria from the moment it's ground, not including what it picked up going through the grinder. It's fine for burgers or meatloaf.

To eat it raw you need to use a good steak like a sirloin, and in my experience it's knife-chopped and not too long before it's served.

Then again, I'm from away.


It's like eating raw fish, you don't just grab any old ground chuck off the big box chain grocery shelf, you buy it specially prepared from a butcher for exactly this purpose.  Just like eating raw fish, there are more risks.

I didn't realize this was a Wisconsin thing, I thought it was a rich people thing.  The only times I ever had it was visiting my ex-girlfriend's rich family.  I love meat more than the next guy but it tastes just like you imagine it would, a mushy cold hamburger.
 
2013-12-06 09:25:03 AM
As a Wisconsinite and a German, I love that stuff. But I must admit, Germans have a weird fetish about cannibalism. And butt slapping.
 
2013-12-06 09:25:32 AM
Do it right or don't do it at all plebes.

www.lechefsblog.com
 
2013-12-06 09:25:43 AM
Growing up in Wisconsin in the 70's we had these every New Year's. I made mine with just ground sirloin, Bermuda onion and rye bread. What I thought was disgusting was when my father used to put Limburger cheese on his. I couldn't even imagine eating one today.
 
2013-12-06 09:26:10 AM
Reading the comments in this thread make me sad. I wish more people cared about food safety, it really says something about us as a nation that we've let our food supply get so farked up and disgusting.

In other news, the other place where raw eggs are good beside Caesar salad dressing is frosting. Many old recipes call for a raw egg yolk, and it does add something velvety and rich to the texture. Much better than that crap in a can.
 
2013-12-06 09:28:44 AM

someonelse: As a Wisconsinite and a German, I love that stuff. But I must admit, Germans have a weird fetish about cannibalism. And butt slapping.


And putting eggs on top of meat.
 
2013-12-06 09:31:09 AM

someonelse: And butt slapping.


content.clearchannel.com
 
2013-12-06 09:31:28 AM

lennavan: Barfmaker: Eating raw store-bought ground chuck is disgusting and dangerous. The entire mass of meat is exposed to the air and busy gathering bacteria from the moment it's ground, not including what it picked up going through the grinder. It's fine for burgers or meatloaf.

To eat it raw you need to use a good steak like a sirloin, and in my experience it's knife-chopped and not too long before it's served.

Then again, I'm from away.

It's like eating raw fish, you don't just grab any old ground chuck off the big box chain grocery shelf, you buy it specially prepared from a butcher for exactly this purpose.  Just like eating raw fish, there are more risks.

I didn't realize this was a Wisconsin thing, I thought it was a rich people thing.  The only times I ever had it was visiting my ex-girlfriend's rich family.  I love meat more than the next guy but it tastes just like you imagine it would, a mushy cold hamburger.



Agreed.  It doesn't have a lot of flavor, and with egg it's just goopy and weird.  Just do rare steak with a sunny-side up egg on top.
 
2013-12-06 09:32:12 AM

washington-babylon: Yes! A chance to post THIS. (SFW, if you can avoid laughing)


Oh Lord I don't think I'm going to eat anything for a week.
 
2013-12-06 09:32:46 AM

Nabb1: Also, you can find pasteurized eggs in some grocery stores.


Where do you get those, exactly?  Alton Brown used to mention them a lot on Good Eats too, but for the life of me, I can't find a grocery store that stocks them, from supermarkets to health food places to farmer's markets.
 
2013-12-06 09:33:08 AM
So, rye bread is bad for you now?
 
2013-12-06 09:39:03 AM
I read The Jungle over a plate of raw ground beef seasoned with salt, chili powder, and cayenne. Delicious.
 
2013-12-06 09:39:08 AM
I wonder about this compulsion people seem to have about consuming raw meat. (and fish). I thought right after we figured out other then that fire would burn the sh*t out of you, we figured out two things.
1) it'll keep you from freezing to death.
2) you can cook food with it, which in turn,
2a) makes food taste better
2b) which makes food last longer (well, longer then raw meat)
2c) you will not die after you eat it.
o.k. that's more then 2 things, but I consider the others a subset.
although, maybe if  you think eating raw meat is a great idea, keep doing it.
 
2013-12-06 09:39:40 AM
I once ate steak tartar in a Paris restaurant during the height of mad cow disease. It was delicious, but I probably narrowly avoided Darwin on that one.
 
2013-12-06 09:41:00 AM

TommyDeuce: So, rye bread is bad for you now?


It is if you get ergot poisoning and then get burned as a witch.
 
2013-12-06 09:42:12 AM
Rye Bread is for elitist Democrats.
 
2013-12-06 09:42:57 AM
That is good stuff.
 
2013-12-06 09:43:50 AM

Mateorocks: I once ate steak tartar in a Paris restaurant during the height of mad cow disease. It was delicious, but I probably narrowly avoided Darwin on that one.


Eat up.  Doesn't matter if you cook it with mad cow disease.  It's the prions, and they can't be 'killed' by cooking.
 
2013-12-06 09:44:41 AM
Fark the food safety Nazis. I know why they are necessary... because some people are stupid and even more are panicky. The rules as stated are a money grab. I follow this rule only: Don't eat anything that smells differently than it's supposed to.
 
2013-12-06 09:44:57 AM

Mateorocks: I once ate steak tartar in a Paris restaurant during the height of mad cow disease. It was delicious, but I probably narrowly avoided Darwin on that one.


Unless you cooked that steak tartar to above 600C (above 1120F) it wouldn't have mattered.  That's one of the scary parts about prions (mad cow), you can't get rid of them by cooking.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10716712
 
2013-12-06 09:45:41 AM

Mateorocks: I once ate steak tartar in a Paris restaurant during the height of mad cow disease. It was delicious, but I probably narrowly avoided Darwin on that one.


Cooking meat does not remove the prions.
 
2013-12-06 09:46:46 AM
Nope.
 
2013-12-06 09:47:39 AM
Tried it Once many years ago, they used to put it out all the time with the rest of the stuff on the table like a buffet when the Older guys, family & friends got together for Football games .etc. I made myself a sandwich and really fought to get it down thinking "This is about the Nastiest tasing stuff I ever ate!!" Have never had it again. I prefer my burgers steaks and the rest just this side of Burnt!
 
2013-12-06 09:49:32 AM
Enh. Gimmie a medium burger with blue cheese crumbles or something and I'm good.

Oh, and I'll take my egg over-hard, on top of the burger.
 
2013-12-06 09:50:03 AM
I don't like the texture of raw ground beef. Taste is good but not the texture.
 
2013-12-06 09:50:37 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I love that stuff.

[www.yakiniquest.com image 250x187]

I wouldn't risk eating it in the US, but definitely anywhere chickens are vaccinated for salmonella.


Chickens are vaccinated for salmonella in the U.S. It's a requirement by almost all major food chains. Our customers such as Wal-Mart, Kroger, Land-O-Lakes, Egglands Best, well .... all of them require us to send lab results to them. The chicks are vaccinated on day of hatch, again at 18 days and then again at 12 weeks. We must also test throughout their life cycle. These reports are also required by the customers.
 
2013-12-06 09:58:48 AM

WTFDYW: AverageAmericanGuy: I love that stuff.

[www.yakiniquest.com image 250x187]

I wouldn't risk eating it in the US, but definitely anywhere chickens are vaccinated for salmonella.

Chickens are vaccinated for salmonella in the U.S. It's a requirement by almost all major food chains. Our customers such as Wal-Mart, Kroger, Land-O-Lakes, Egglands Best, well .... all of them require us to send lab results to them. The chicks are vaccinated on day of hatch, again at 18 days and then again at 12 weeks. We must also test throughout their life cycle. These reports are also required by the customers.


This is from 2010, but it sounds like that is not the general case.

About 125 million of the 218 million egg-laying hens in the U.S. have been vaccinated

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/25/egg-recall-us-chose-not-t_n _6 93705.html
 
2013-12-06 10:03:43 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: WTFDYW: AverageAmericanGuy: I love that stuff.

[www.yakiniquest.com image 250x187]

I wouldn't risk eating it in the US, but definitely anywhere chickens are vaccinated for salmonella.

Chickens are vaccinated for salmonella in the U.S. It's a requirement by almost all major food chains. Our customers such as Wal-Mart, Kroger, Land-O-Lakes, Egglands Best, well .... all of them require us to send lab results to them. The chicks are vaccinated on day of hatch, again at 18 days and then again at 12 weeks. We must also test throughout their life cycle. These reports are also required by the customers.

This is from 2010, but it sounds like that is not the general case.

About 125 million of the 218 million egg-laying hens in the U.S. have been vaccinated

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/25/egg-recall-us-chose-not-t_n _6 93705.html


Wow. I know there are companies that somehow fly under the radar, but I didn't know it was THAT damn many. Thanks for the info. I don't understand why they would take that chance. One bad media episode and you are hurting in the sales area for a long time. Besides that, the cost to vaccinate and test is not all that much in comparison to bad press.
 
2013-12-06 10:07:18 AM

Barfmaker: Eating raw store-bought ground chuck is disgusting and dangerous. The entire mass of meat is exposed to the air and busy gathering bacteria from the moment it's ground, not including what it picked up going through the grinder. It's fine for burgers or meatloaf.

To eat it raw you need to use a good steak like a sirloin, and in my experience it's knife-chopped and not too long before it's served.

Then again, I'm from away.


No you are correct. Steak Tartare is never supposed to be made from pre-ground meat. Not only is that germy, but why in the hell would you want to eat that?
 
2013-12-06 10:09:32 AM
Wait a minute - I just read the article - less than 20 people got sick?  From making their own informed choice?

It's an epidemic!   Help us guberment!  Save us from our own decisions!

It's Winter!  Make it stop snowing so we don't slip on ice!
 
2013-12-06 10:17:45 AM

bigbobowski: I wonder about this compulsion people seem to have about consuming raw meat. (and fish). I thought right after we figured out other then that fire would burn the sh*t out of you, we figured out two things.
1) it'll keep you from freezing to death.
2) you can cook food with it, which in turn,
2a) makes food taste better
2b) which makes food last longer (well, longer then raw meat)
2c) you will not die after you eat it.
o.k. that's more then 2 things, but I consider the others a subset.
although, maybe if  you think eating raw meat is a great idea, keep doing it.


I was watching a Discovery channel documentary about early man and they were basically saying our brains only grew to such a large size after the advent of cooking meat which allowed us to extract a greater amount of calories from the game we killed.

/I was stoned, good times
 
2013-12-06 10:17:52 AM
FTFA: "The big message is that people need to cook their food properly and make sure they're taking temperatures of their meat," Quest said.

I'm pretty sure the people the article is written about aren't going to follow any of that advice.
 
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