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2013-12-06 09:57:52 AM
someone take on for the team.

no moonie no click
 
2013-12-06 10:00:00 AM

Cosmic_Music: someone take on for the team.

no moonie no click


It's basically saying how some supporters want him to circumvent congress, but the president is unwilling to do so.  It's almost entirely a non-article.
 
2013-12-06 10:00:56 AM
It couldn't possibly be because Obama is a better President and human being than Bush. Unthinkable.
 
2013-12-06 10:02:07 AM
slippery slope


/cliche
 
2013-12-06 10:03:25 AM
Ends justify the means?
 
2013-12-06 10:04:42 AM
At this point, what other choice does he have?
 
2013-12-06 10:07:56 AM
Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!
 
2013-12-06 10:10:01 AM

GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!


The Washington Times is run by a conservative religious lunatic. Giving them ad revenue by clicking their links is irresponsible at best.
 
2013-12-06 10:10:03 AM
A do-nothing Congress has provoked previous use of executive power. Now, some people want him to use it a bunch more.

And honestly, if the Republicans continue to deny any benefits that have come from the presidency, maybe it's time to use it a little bit more.
 
2013-12-06 10:10:06 AM

GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!


This from someone who defends Rush Limbaugh.

The Internet never forgets.
 
2013-12-06 10:10:07 AM

un4gvn666: It couldn't possibly be because Obama is a better President and human being than Bush. Unthinkable.


Not really. It's more like "it's great when my team does it but the end of the world when it's the other guy." Both sides seem to think that thier team will remain in power forever.
 
2013-12-06 10:10:24 AM
Ugh the courts need to outlaw this. And Signing Statements. It was bad when GW used them, it was bad when Clinton used them, it is bad when Obama uses them.
 
2013-12-06 10:12:28 AM

Prank Monkey: un4gvn666: It couldn't possibly be because Obama is a better President and human being than Bush. Unthinkable.

Not really. It's more like "it's great when my team does it but the end of the world when it's the other guy." Both sides seem to think that thier team will remain in power forever.


Yes, tell me more about how both sides are equally bad.

I'm glad newer generations aren't buying that brand of bullshiat.
 
2013-12-06 10:14:39 AM

Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

This from someone who defends Rush Limbaugh.

The Internet never forgets.


"Defends" as I present tense?
 
2013-12-06 10:16:29 AM

Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

This from someone who defends Rush Limbaugh.

The Internet never forgets.


But it apparently is bad at detecting sarcasm.
 
2013-12-06 10:19:02 AM

un4gvn666: Prank Monkey: un4gvn666: It couldn't possibly be because Obama is a better President and human being than Bush. Unthinkable.

Not really. It's more like "it's great when my team does it but the end of the world when it's the other guy." Both sides seem to think that thier team will remain in power forever.

Yes, tell me more about how both sides are equally bad.

I'm glad newer generations aren't buying that brand of bullshiat.


Really? Do you know what a disaster 1 party rule would be? I understand that you disagree with the Republicans in almost every way. Fine, I don't care. I disagree with a lot about both parties. That's why I vote for candidates and not the letter after their name

/Didn't realize I wasn't one of the newer generations.
//Going outside to yell at cloud
 
2013-12-06 10:19:19 AM

GoldSpider: Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

This from someone who defends Rush Limbaugh.

The Internet never forgets.

"Defends" as I present tense?


You probably haven't defended him today, and technically correct is the best kind of correct.

But today you're calling anyone who doesn't want to support Moon's sh*tty rag closed-minded, so you're basically saying "my derp has mutated".
 
2013-12-06 10:22:13 AM

Wyalt Derp: At this point, what other choice does he have?


"Its justified when my side does it"
 
2013-12-06 10:22:58 AM

un4gvn666: Prank Monkey: un4gvn666: It couldn't possibly be because Obama is a better President and human being than Bush. Unthinkable.

Not really. It's more like "it's great when my team does it but the end of the world when it's the other guy." Both sides seem to think that thier team will remain in power forever.

Yes, tell me more about how both sides are equally bad.

I'm glad newer generations aren't buying that brand of bullshiat.


Equally depends on what you want out of government. But believing either party isn't in bed with their special interests and truly serves the people is pretty funny...
 
2013-12-06 10:23:22 AM

Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

This from someone who defends Rush Limbaugh.

The Internet never forgets.

"Defends" as I present tense?

You probably haven't defended him today, and technically correct is the best kind of correct.

But today you're calling anyone who doesn't want to support Moon's sh*tty rag closed-minded, so you're basically saying "my derp has mutated".


I think it's silly for someone to argue against an article they proudly admit they didn't read.

And I know the Moonie Times is a rag, but I clicked on it twice just for you.
 
2013-12-06 10:23:50 AM

Wyalt Derp: At this point, what other choice does he have?


For you, not obeying the law is an option. Thanks for confirming what has become increasingly obvious: your side would love to have an authoritarian form of government instead of a democracy.
 
2013-12-06 10:26:25 AM

Prank Monkey: un4gvn666: Prank Monkey: un4gvn666: It couldn't possibly be because Obama is a better President and human being than Bush. Unthinkable.

Not really. It's more like "it's great when my team does it but the end of the world when it's the other guy." Both sides seem to think that thier team will remain in power forever.

Yes, tell me more about how both sides are equally bad.

I'm glad newer generations aren't buying that brand of bullshiat.

Really? Do you know what a disaster 1 party rule would be? I understand that you disagree with the Republicans in almost every way. Fine, I don't care. I disagree with a lot about both parties. That's why I vote for candidates and not the letter after their name

/Didn't realize I wasn't one of the newer generations.
//Going outside to yell at cloud


Bad? Yes. "Disaster"? No. I know it's nice to talk about these things in the abstract, but the reality is that results can be measured and verified, and right now, at this time in history, Democrats deliver and Republicans don't. That doesn't mean they wouldn't abuse the power were they to have it, but complete Democratic control of government also won't translate into the real, verifiable suffering that Republican governance causes.

Or do you think the first 2 years of Obama's presidency simply vanished into the aether?
 
2013-12-06 10:28:03 AM

GoldSpider: Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

This from someone who defends Rush Limbaugh.

The Internet never forgets.

"Defends" as I present tense?

You probably haven't defended him today, and technically correct is the best kind of correct.

But today you're calling anyone who doesn't want to support Moon's sh*tty rag closed-minded, so you're basically saying "my derp has mutated".

I think it's silly for someone to argue against an article they proudly admit they didn't read.

And I know the Moonie Times is a rag, but I clicked on it twice just for you.


"No moonie no click" =/= "arguing against an article you didn't read", and if you think "I clicked it for you" makes you sound less like a Rush Limbaugh fan, you're mistaken.
 
2013-12-06 10:30:56 AM

Wyalt Derp: At this point, what other choice does he have?


Resignation?
 
2013-12-06 10:31:34 AM

Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

This from someone who defends Rush Limbaugh.

The Internet never forgets.

"Defends" as I present tense?

You probably haven't defended him today, and technically correct is the best kind of correct.

But today you're calling anyone who doesn't want to support Moon's sh*tty rag closed-minded, so you're basically saying "my derp has mutated".

I think it's silly for someone to argue against an article they proudly admit they didn't read.

And I know the Moonie Times is a rag, but I clicked on it twice just for you.

"No moonie no click" =/= "arguing against an article you didn't read", and if you think "I clicked it for you" makes you sound less like a Rush Limbaugh fan, you're mistaken.


You have an odd obsession over a desperate, fading political blowhard. I won't judge: everybody needs a hobby.
 
2013-12-06 10:33:02 AM

Cosmic_Music: someone take on for the team.

no moonie no click


FOR EVERY MOONIE TIMES ARTICLE YOU DON'T CLICK, IMMA CLICK THREEEEEEEE
 
2013-12-06 10:33:21 AM

un4gvn666: Prank Monkey: un4gvn666: Prank Monkey: un4gvn666: It couldn't possibly be because Obama is a better President and human being than Bush. Unthinkable.

Not really. It's more like "it's great when my team does it but the end of the world when it's the other guy." Both sides seem to think that thier team will remain in power forever.

Yes, tell me more about how both sides are equally bad.

I'm glad newer generations aren't buying that brand of bullshiat.

Really? Do you know what a disaster 1 party rule would be? I understand that you disagree with the Republicans in almost every way. Fine, I don't care. I disagree with a lot about both parties. That's why I vote for candidates and not the letter after their name

/Didn't realize I wasn't one of the newer generations.
//Going outside to yell at cloud

Bad? Yes. "Disaster"? No. I know it's nice to talk about these things in the abstract, but the reality is that results can be measured and verified, and right now, at this time in history, Democrats deliver and Republicans don't. That doesn't mean they wouldn't abuse the power were they to have it, but complete Democratic control of government also won't translate into the real, verifiable suffering that Republican governance causes.

Or do you think the first 2 years of Obama's presidency simply vanished into the aether?


The thing you are forgetting is during the first 2 years of Obama's presidency there was an opposition party. If Obama can bypass congress to do whatever he wants then what is the point of having a congress? There are words for that type of government
 
2013-12-06 10:33:44 AM

GoldSpider: You have an odd obsession over a desperate, fading political blowhard. I won't judge: everybody needs a hobby.


Libertarian "wit", on a par with libertarian judgement and ethics. lol
 
2013-12-06 10:35:00 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Wyalt Derp: At this point, what other choice does he have?

Resignation?


I voted for Obama, but I would farking love President Biden.

25.media.tumblr.com

31.media.tumblr.com
Bring that shiat.
 
2013-12-06 10:35:07 AM

Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: You have an odd obsession over a desperate, fading political blowhard. I won't judge: everybody needs a hobby.

Libertarian "wit", on a par with libertarian judgement and ethics. lol


You've certainly got me all figured out.
 
2013-12-06 10:35:38 AM

Prank Monkey: There are words for that type of government


Functioning, working, reflecting the will of the electorate.

Yes, many words.
 
2013-12-06 10:37:36 AM

GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!


What exactly is there to learn here? The article says absolutely nothing. Some activists want Obama to utilize executive authority. Ok, and so?
 
2013-12-06 10:38:27 AM

GoldSpider: Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: You have an odd obsession over a desperate, fading political blowhard. I won't judge: everybody needs a hobby.

Libertarian "wit", on a par with libertarian judgement and ethics. lol

You've certainly got me all figured out.


Well if you've abandoned Rush and libertarianism, maybe there's hope for you.

"I'll click Moonie Times twice for you"

Or maybe not.
 
2013-12-06 10:43:26 AM
Dubya to Congress: I can haz 2 wars, The PATRIOT Act, and a new government agency with 55,000 employees?
Congress to Dubya: No problem sir, can we get you anything else?

Obama to Congress: I can haz anything? Anything at all?
Congress: Up yous ni**er!
 
2013-12-06 10:44:59 AM

Fart_Machine: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

What exactly is there to learn here? The article says absolutely nothing. Some activists want Obama to utilize executive authority. Ok, and so?


Let's be honest, most people don't come to the Politics tab with the intent (let alone ability) to learn.
 
2013-12-06 10:46:34 AM

un4gvn666: Prank Monkey: There are words for that type of government

Functioning, working, reflecting the will of the electorate.

Yes, many words.


Yeah, we don't need any checks and balances at all. Whoever is elected president can do whatever the fark he wants! Weeeeeeeeeee
 
2013-12-06 10:48:12 AM

jjorsett: Wooly Bully: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

This from someone who defends Rush Limbaugh.

The Internet never forgets.

But it apparently is bad at detecting sarcasm.


This from a guy who thought that the Tea Party was "saving the economy" by holding the debt ceiling hostage.
 
2013-12-06 10:50:53 AM

jjorsett: Wyalt Derp: At this point, what other choice does he have?

For you, not obeying the law is an option. Thanks for confirming what has become increasingly obvious: your side would love to have an authoritarian form of government instead of a democracy.


This is why many social psychologists criticized Bob Altemeyer for his term "Right Wing Authoritarianism".  Plenty of left-wing authoritarians out there.
 
2013-12-06 10:53:05 AM
They must be extremely happy with him, then.
 
2013-12-06 10:54:29 AM

Prank Monkey: Really? Do you know what a disaster 1 party rule would be?


It depends on which party is the one party. The last two times the Democrats had total control of government we got the Civil Rights Act, Social Security, Medicare, and essentially became the most powerful nation on the planet.
 
2013-12-06 10:56:45 AM

Prank Monkey: Yeah, we don't need any checks and balances at all. Whoever is elected president can do whatever the fark he wants! Weeeeeeeeeee


Eddie Adams from Torrance: Dubya to Congress: I can haz 2 wars, The PATRIOT Act, and a new government agency with 55,000 employees?
Congress to Dubya: No problem sir, can we get you anything else?

Obama to Congress: I can haz anything? Anything at all?
Congress: Up yous ni**er!


Yeah, pretend that Republican opposition is just "checks and balances". You apparently have a plethora of false equivalences you'd like to share today, so let's hear some more, please.
 
2013-12-06 10:57:57 AM

Neeek: Prank Monkey: Really? Do you know what a disaster 1 party rule would be?

It depends on which party is the one party. The last two times the Democrats had total control of government we got the Civil Rights Act, Social Security, Medicare, and essentially became the most powerful nation on the planet.


Your examples, contemporary as they may be, are not valid as the political situation has changed significantly. GOP control brought the right for women to vote. GOP control brought the end to slavery. Hell, before the Civil Rights Act, it was the Democrats who were the racists.
 
2013-12-06 11:03:36 AM

cman: Your examples, contemporary as they may be, are not valid as the political situation has changed significantly.


No, it hasn't. WTF are you on?
 
2013-12-06 11:04:07 AM

cman: GOP control brought the right for women to vote. GOP control brought the end to slavery. Hell, before the Civil Rights Act, it was the Democrats who were the racists.


Congratulations. This is by far the most historically ignorant post in this thread.

Now go google the Southern Strategy and try to understand why you fail so hard.
 
2013-12-06 11:06:12 AM
Once upon a time, the Democrats were the assholes. Now it's the Republicans.

I don't think this guy realizes that he just admitted that.
 
2013-12-06 11:12:35 AM

Wooly Bully: Once upon a time, the Democrats were the assholes. Now it's the Republicans.

I don't think this guy realizes that he just admitted that.


The sad thing is that one of the Republicans considered to be the leading policy wonk in the party, Paul Ryan, was literally making that same argument to a historically black college, and was met with the exact type of disdain that should be expected for that nonsense.

Think about that. The man that Republicans chose to be the potential Vice President of the United States, the man they consider to be the leading budgetary mind of their party, was only able to make policy arguments for his party on par with a lazy Fark troll.

THAT is the state of the modern Republican Party.
 
2013-12-06 11:17:11 AM

un4gvn666: The man that Republicans chose to be the potential Vice President of the United States, the man they consider to be the leading budgetary mind of their party, was only able to make policy arguments for his party on par with a lazy Fark troll


Sad and true, and this made me laugh.
 
2013-12-06 11:17:23 AM

un4gvn666: GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!

The Washington Times is run by a conservative religious lunatic. Giving them ad revenue by clicking their links is irresponsible at best.



I'll click on it 3 times, I'm irresponsible like that
 
2013-12-06 11:23:36 AM

un4gvn666: cman: GOP control brought the right for women to vote. GOP control brought the end to slavery. Hell, before the Civil Rights Act, it was the Democrats who were the racists.

Congratulations. This is by far the most historically ignorant post in this thread.

Now go google the Southern Strategy and try to understand why you fail so hard.


Oh my friend, your knob slobbing up top blows that one out of the water.

Byrd, Duke, FDR locking up Asains,
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h128

Nice little track record there.
 
2013-12-06 11:26:19 AM

GoldSpider: Sounds like there's a good chance this article contradicts my chosen worldview. Better not risk it!


I don't expect you to take Mother Jones seriously as a source. Don't ask us to take a source seriously when it's even worse, i.e it has a history of actually being grossly inaccurate as well as ideologically biased.
 
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