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(LA Weekly)   California GOP: How can we thwart Obamacare? "Hey, let's put up a phony website with the name similar to the legit coveredca.com, and make these stupid people more frustrated"   (blogs.laweekly.com) divider line 35
    More: Interesting, GOP, obamacare, California, California Democratic Party, stupidity, detours, California State Assembly, Courage Campaign  
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3446 clicks; posted to Politics » on 05 Dec 2013 at 2:12 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-12-05 01:57:58 PM  
9 votes:
once again i ask: if obamacare is so bad, why do you have to lie and cheat to make your point?
2013-12-05 01:44:37 PM  
7 votes:
Isn't willfully and knowingly attempting to deceive people by undermining the laws of the United States of America some kind of treasonable offense?
2013-12-05 02:24:32 PM  
3 votes:

rosebud_the_sled: Oh what a surprise!  After trying a DoS attack against the website, they put up fake sites to screw with the public.

Do Republicans ever do anything positive for the American public or do they all hate the USA?

Is there any Republican that isn't a racist, treasonous sack of garbage?


The only goal of the Republican party is to have absolute power, with which they'll funnel every last cent of America's wealth into the pockets of the 1%. Everything else is a means to that end.
2013-12-05 05:55:53 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: FlashHarry: once again i ask: if obamacare is so bad, why do you have to lie and cheat to make your point?

The official Fark Independent answer is "We don't want the American people to suffer from this abomination".



Basically, 95% of the "outrage" over the ACA since it was enacted is just a coordinated, massive concern trolling effort by the GOP.

It's pretty obvious, because for all of the years they have been whining about the ACA, they have proposed basically jack shiat as far as plans to address our broken-ass healthcare system.

It's like the GOP is a party whose entire platform is based on ideas have been consistently proven 100% wrong.  For example, "trickle down economics" - the idea that keeping taxes low for the rich is better for the middle and poorer classes because if you just let them make shiatloads of money, it must eventually find its way to a poor person - right?

Or the idea that single payer health care is a bad idea, even though (1) pretty much every comparable developed country has a single payer system that is far cheaper than the U.S. system, with better health outcomes, and (2) millions of Americans have single payer health care in the form of medicare, and freaking love it.  There's a reason why medicare is a "sacred cow."
2013-12-05 03:20:44 PM  
2 votes:

Cletus C.: firefly212: Flappyhead: skullkrusher: That's really farked up if true but it's a bit of a stretch to think the intention was to confuse.

Then what was it?

Look, he's just a GOP shill/amateur troll (redundant?)... they're not giving him a lot to work with... there's no reasonable explanation other than they were trying to mislead/confuse people... but he's gotta put forth some effort.

There's a lot of that going around.

That accusation, I mean.

Weak.


Look, there are plenty of people I frequently disagree with who aren't trolls, Weaver, LasersHurt, and others from both sides of the spectrum... but skullkrusher is just too farking obvious wiith his mental contortions to be taken seriously. If you're gonna say he's not trolling, then tell me, do you think it's reasonable to say "it's a  bit of a strech to think that the intention was to confuse." Because, to me, that's just some soft-trolling... it's not a stretch at all to think the intent was to confuse, to the contrary, you have to stretch pretty far to think that the intention was something else... heck, I can't even think of what possible intent naming the website so similarly could possibly be, other than to confuse.

All due respect to him, but he's done a better job of trollololing in other threads, but that's what rattles his rocks.... I'm not mad at him, and I don't hate him for it... but sometimes we should call a spade a spade.
2013-12-05 02:47:33 PM  
2 votes:

skullkrusher: That's really farked up if true but it's a bit of a stretch to think the intention was to confuse.


Oh yeah, it's a real stretch to think that a political party who has made sabotaging the ACA their number one priority might have done this on purpose. What you think their intent was?
2013-12-05 02:20:05 PM  
2 votes:
Oh what a surprise!  After trying a DoS attack against the website, they put up fake sites to screw with the public.

Do Republicans ever do anything positive for the American public or do they all hate the USA?

Is there any Republican that isn't a racist, treasonous sack of garbage?
2013-12-05 02:19:25 PM  
2 votes:

WizardofToast: FlashHarry: once again i ask: if obamacare is so bad, why do you have to lie and cheat to make your point?

Obama could stand in front of the GOP, give them boxing gloves, stand with his chin out and say "Have at it." And they would somehow punch themselves the middle class in the back of the head until they fall unconscious. They could have the advantage right in their hands and screw up immediately.


Fixt.
2013-12-05 04:20:54 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: That's really farked up if true but it's a bit of a stretch to think the intention was to confuse.


We've seen websites like this before - enjoying the veneer of legitimacy where only a second look reveals the intention. Under "What's New," both visible articles are about losing coverage. Click on "I don't have health insurance" and you get a tiny link to the real website and a calculator revealing how much your tax penalty will be in 2014. The overall message is "If you have health insurance, you're going to lose it; if you don't have health insurance, you're going to starve; if you're an employer, you might as well shoot yourself."

The fact that these plans are subsidized is, of course, glossed over; the fact that most insurance plans are already ACA-compliant is ignored. Sort of reminds me of those news articles that trail themselves: "Is your ice cream trying to kill you?" followed up by a story on lactose intolerance.

The intention was absolutely to confuse. The site doesn't even look all that different from Healthcare.gov. This doesn't come as a huge surprise from the party that put up flyers in African-American neighborhoods with the wrong date for election day, or voted to defund ACORN years after it had been dismantled. This is how you play when you can't play fair.
2013-12-05 04:11:11 PM  
1 votes:

firefly212: Flappyhead: skullkrusher: That's really farked up if true but it's a bit of a stretch to think the intention was to confuse.

Then what was it?

Look, he's just a GOP shill/amateur troll (redundant?)... they're not giving him a lot to work with... there's no reasonable explanation other than they were trying to mislead/confuse people... but he's gotta put forth some effort.


Seriously? If I wanted to confuse people about a site called coveredca.com I'd call it coveringca.com and make it look like the real thing and I sure as shiat wouldn't have big clickable icons walking me directly to the real site as a place to purchase insurance in addition to another link at the bottom to the actual website. Maybe you think everyone is as dim as you but there is no way in fark someone with the brains of a carrot would think they are... I don't even know. What do you think their hope was?
2013-12-05 03:59:30 PM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: No worries. I took note that TFA intentionally didn't link to the site in question


So what would THIS be?

Hiltzik says the site,  http://coveringhealthcareca.com , changed its tune just a few hours after he published his piece by including links to the official Covered California site.

All that's changed from TFA is my attempt to get the link to populate correctly, but you are MORE than welcome to go right back to TFA and click yourself.

So yeah, they linked to it. That's what the blue words meant.
2013-12-05 03:49:49 PM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: Well now that I've actually gone to the website, I'm going to shut my mouth. Shouldn't have trusted the article.

No worries. I took note that TFA intentionally didn't link to the site in question, I can only assume that was to try and get people to take their word for it instead of judging for themselves. I suspect that most of the people calling this illegal took the article at face value as well.

Like I said earlier in the thread, the CA state AG's office has taken down 10 actual scam sites and are prosecuting the operators for fraud. This isn't even close to being one of them.


Is it a scam or fraud? No. Is it deliberate misinformation? You bet.
2013-12-05 03:07:47 PM  
1 votes:

mgshamster: SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: How is this legal at all?

Free Speech?

Lying isn't against the law. Didn't Fox News win a lawsuit about a decade back on this?


I feel like fraud might be against the law, though.
2013-12-05 03:06:48 PM  
1 votes:

btchin trans-am: The California GOP is like a sideshow and this will go nowhere.

Remember what Wendy Davis accomplished in Texas? Nothing.


Wait until she's Governor.

And really, activating the dispirited majority of Texans who are democrats and exposing hypocrisy and incompetence are something.
2013-12-05 03:05:55 PM  
1 votes:

Cletus C.: There's a lot of that going around.

That accusation, I mean.

Weak.


Have you thought that it could be due to you doing a lot of trolling lately? No, it must be literally everyone else and not you.
2013-12-05 03:03:56 PM  
1 votes:
Democrats made a spoof site in '12, and did it without being evil. All it did was make a rhetorical point.

And it's still up -- http://www.romneytaxplan.com/ . I think there was a Fark thread about it.
2013-12-05 02:57:22 PM  
1 votes:
How is this legal at all?
2013-12-05 02:56:26 PM  
1 votes:

Flappyhead: skullkrusher: That's really farked up if true but it's a bit of a stretch to think the intention was to confuse.

Then what was it?


Look, he's just a GOP shill/amateur troll (redundant?)... they're not giving him a lot to work with... there's no reasonable explanation other than they were trying to mislead/confuse people... but he's gotta put forth some effort.
2013-12-05 02:53:18 PM  
1 votes:

baltimoreron: markie_farkie: Isn't willfully and knowingly attempting to deceive people by undermining the laws of the United States of America some kind of treasonable offense?

MD Dems apparently don't think so.


Oh how cute, you think someone's political campaign is a law.
2013-12-05 02:49:13 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: That's really farked up if true but it's a bit of a stretch to think the intention was to confuse.


Then what was it?
2013-12-05 02:47:01 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher:  it's a bit of a stretch to think the intention was to confuse.


seriously? this is the GOP we're talking about here. the GOP.
2013-12-05 02:43:19 PM  
1 votes:

Cletus C.: coeyagi: Cletus C.: markie_farkie: Isn't willfully and knowingly attempting to deceive people by undermining the laws of the United States of America some kind of treasonable offense?

It's just a website for slamming on the ACA. It doesn't look like a place you'd go to sign up and clearly doesn't pretend to be. The name isn't really all that close to the California site.

But other than that, yes throw them in Leavenworth.

Really?  Dismissive of this? I mean, they are going to actually cause people to die for confusing / lying to people about ACA so they don't get covered, but you wanted Issa to do a full body cavity search on Obama for what he said AFTER the 4 deaths in...... let's call it..... (need a safe word so you don't go postal)..... Kalamazooghazi.

It's a death site? I should have clicked the "About Us" tab.


If their objective is to make sure that people don't get covered - yes.  You can draw your own conclusions, and I put my full faith and trust in that - you've never backed a wrong horse before.
2013-12-05 02:42:30 PM  
1 votes:
They can't even f*ck up properly. Sounds about right.
2013-12-05 02:42:12 PM  
1 votes:
That's really farked up if true but it's a bit of a stretch to think the intention was to confuse.
2013-12-05 02:40:54 PM  
1 votes:

baltimoreron: markie_farkie: Isn't willfully and knowingly attempting to deceive people by undermining the laws of the United States of America some kind of treasonable offense?

MD Dems apparently don't think so.


Um, if they did that, sure, bring them up on charges for fraud, however, that article didn't actually provide proof that it was the MD Dems.  It said it was them, but provided no evidence to back it.

If you can't trust examiner.com, who can you trust?
2013-12-05 02:37:38 PM  
1 votes:

Cletus C.: markie_farkie: Isn't willfully and knowingly attempting to deceive people by undermining the laws of the United States of America some kind of treasonable offense?

It's just a website for slamming on the ACA. It doesn't look like a place you'd go to sign up and clearly doesn't pretend to be. The name isn't really all that close to the California site.

But other than that, yes throw them in Leavenworth.


Really?  Dismissive of this? I mean, they are going to actually cause people to die for confusing / lying to people about ACA so they don't get covered, but you wanted Issa to do a full body cavity search on Obama for what he said AFTER the 4 deaths in...... let's call it..... (need a safe word so you don't go postal)..... Kalamazooghazi.
2013-12-05 02:37:10 PM  
1 votes:
We drink to our youth, to the days come and gone.
For the age of oppression is now nearly done.
We'll drive out the Liberals from this land that we own.
With our blood and our steel we will take back our home.

All hail to Reagan! You are the High King!
In your great honor we drink and we sing.
We're the children of 'Murica, and we fight all our lives.
And when Jesus Christ beckons, every one of us dies!

But this land is ours and we'll see it wiped clean.
Of the scourge that has sullied our hopes and our dreams.
All hail to Reagan! You are the High King!
In your great honor we drink and we sing.
We're the children of 'Murica, and we fight all our lives.
And when Jesus Christ beckons, every one of us dies!

We drink to our youth, to the days come and gone.
For the age of oppression is now nearly done.
2013-12-05 02:34:05 PM  
1 votes:

markie_farkie: Isn't willfully and knowingly attempting to deceive people by undermining the laws of the United States of America some kind of treasonable offense?


It's just a website for slamming on the ACA. It doesn't look like a place you'd go to sign up and clearly doesn't pretend to be. The name isn't really all that close to the California site.

But other than that, yes throw them in Leavenworth.
2013-12-05 02:31:38 PM  
1 votes:
What else should we expect from the regional GOP group that thought Carly Fiorina was a viable Senate candidate?

Then again, given all the nasty NSA spying, Fiorina would have been right at home in the Senate devising new methods of surveilance
2013-12-05 02:29:46 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, domain squatters are really slipping if they let the GOP beat them to this.
2013-12-05 02:29:40 PM  
1 votes:
Quelle surprise!
2013-12-05 02:24:18 PM  
1 votes:

rosebud_the_sled: Oh what a surprise!  After trying a DoS attack against the website, they put up fake sites to screw with the public.

Do Republicans ever do anything positive for the American public or do they all hate the USA?

Is there any Republican that isn't a racist, treasonous sack of garbage?


They don't see it as treason if you've bootstrapped your way to the top.
2013-12-05 02:24:07 PM  
1 votes:
I like the bit at the bottom with linked text

Disclaimer - Privacy Policy - Assembly Republican Caucus

Not fake at all.....

/turn off javascript to stop the scoll glitch.
//Waiting for the police to boot down their doors in 3-2-1-potato
2013-12-05 02:17:48 PM  
1 votes:

FlashHarry: once again i ask: if obamacare is so bad, why do you have to lie and cheat to make your point?


Obama could stand in front of the GOP, give them boxing gloves, stand with his chin out and say "Have at it." And they would somehow punch themselves in the back of the head until they fall unconscious. They could have the advantage right in their hands and screw up immediately.
2013-12-05 01:35:04 PM  
1 votes:
Apparently the GOP can't even hire decent web designers. Their stupid website keeps scrolling back to the top when I try to go to the bottom.
 
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