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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   GA's insurance commissioner compares requiring pre-existing condition coverage to requiring pre-wrecked car coverage, promises the poor opressed insurers he'll "do everything in his power" to obstruct enforcement of the requirement in his state   (ajc.com) divider line 356
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2013-12-05 12:34:25 PM
The party of compassionate conservatism, ladies and gentlemen.
 
2013-12-05 12:46:54 PM
These people are despicable.
 
2013-12-05 12:48:05 PM
"I didn't realize I was being videotaped and that got on the Internet," he said. "I never received so many nasty e-mails. I've been told that they hope I die. I've been told that they hope my children had cancer, just all kinds of things."

I hope you die in a fire as soon as possible, you worthless piece of excrement.
 
2013-12-05 12:48:25 PM
I'm so sick of this goddamn state.
 
2013-12-05 12:53:16 PM
His line of reasoning sounds about as well-thought out as the stuff we get from the wingers and trolls in the politics tab.
 
2013-12-05 01:01:57 PM
Again... I really try to figure out where people come from when I hear stupid comments.  Benefit of the doubt.  Perhaps, yes... in some cases people do something stupid and then want coverage posto facto.  Like the 20 year old kid that has no insurance and then breaks his legs and can't figure out why he can't get insurance to cover all of his medical costs.  Maybe.


But seriously, when people hear 'pre-exsiting condition' it's usually a pretty shiatty disease that you have.  It wasn't a choice to get cancer or lupus (it's never lupus).  So, ya... this guy's an idiot.
 
2013-12-05 01:02:12 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: His line of reasoning sounds about as well-thought out as the stuff we get from the wingers and trolls in the politics tab.


Yes but he's in an actual position of power, and reveals by his comments a fundamental lack of knowledge about how the economics of the industry he's in charge of regulating.In it's own way it would be as frightening as hearing the states chief civil engineer give a talk where he admits he always rounds down Pi in his equations to 3 because that's "close enough"
 
2013-12-05 01:05:14 PM
Republicans are scum.

No further analysis is needed to explain the entirety of their behavior.
 
2013-12-05 01:06:20 PM

netizencain: So, ya... this guy's an idiot.


Which would normally be fine, except that he's also the insurance commissioner.  If I lived in Georgia, I'd be screaming for his head.
 
2013-12-05 01:07:39 PM

netizencain: Again... I really try to figure out where people come from when I hear stupid comments.  Benefit of the doubt.  Perhaps, yes... in some cases people do something stupid and then want coverage posto facto.  Like the 20 year old kid that has no insurance and then breaks his legs and can't figure out why he can't get insurance to cover all of his medical costs.  Maybe.


But seriously, when people hear 'pre-exsiting condition' it's usually a pretty shiatty disease that you have.  It wasn't a choice to get cancer or lupus (it's never lupus).  So, ya... this guy's an idiot.


There is certainly a big difference between those scenarios, and that's why off-the-cuff comparisons like the one he made are a bad idea.
 
2013-12-05 01:09:48 PM

netizencain: Again... I really try to figure out where people come from when I hear stupid comments.  Benefit of the doubt.  Perhaps, yes... in some cases people do something stupid and then want coverage posto facto.  Like the 20 year old kid that has no insurance and then breaks his legs and can't figure out why he can't get insurance to cover all of his medical costs.  Maybe.


But seriously, when people hear 'pre-exsiting condition' it's usually a pretty shiatty disease that you have.  It wasn't a choice to get cancer or lupus (it's never lupus).  So, ya... this guy's an idiot.


and see that's where the Universal mandate the wingers are all screaming is horrific government tyranny comes in.   To the extent this argument has ANY validity, the problem is addressed by MAKING everyone have coverage so they don;t get to wait until they are sick to opt in.
 
2013-12-05 01:27:34 PM
I'd rather have lupus than socialism.
 
2013-12-05 01:31:51 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I'd rather have lupus than socialism.



It's not socialism
 
2013-12-05 01:32:26 PM
well... that was a lovely image fail

/preview is your friend
 
2013-12-05 01:34:09 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I'd rather have lupus than socialism.


(it's never socialism)
 
2013-12-05 01:34:49 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Eddie Adams from Torrance: I'd rather have lupus than socialism.


It's not socialism


www.rightwingnews.com
 
2013-12-05 01:37:11 PM
Having dealt with challenging preexisting condition exclusions professionally, I can tell you their only purpose is as a cheap out for the company to break the contract when it comes time to pay. Insurers literally comb thru your medical records looking for a time you were prescribed Tylenol and use it to deny coverage you paid for once you legitimately need it.

What's worse is that as insurance commissioner, he knows this better than anyone.
 
2013-12-05 01:40:06 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I'd rather have lupus than socialism.


No, you REALLY wouldn't.
 
2013-12-05 01:41:39 PM
"Now WHY would we want to insure sickly people? There's no profit in THAT!"

The true ugliness of a capitalist system.
 
2013-12-05 01:46:03 PM

gilgigamesh: Having dealt with challenging preexisting condition exclusions professionally, I can tell you their only purpose is as a cheap out for the company to break the contract when it comes time to pay. Insurers literally comb thru your medical records looking for a time you were prescribed Tylenol and use it to deny coverage you paid for once you legitimately need it.

What's worse is that as insurance commissioner, he knows this better than anyone.


Recission Committees are actually a thing at most insurers and they are as ugly and heartless as your worst imaginings

if the ONLY thing Obamacare accomplished was making this sort of corporate thievery illegal, then all of it, even last bit of sturm and drang and angest over the law will have been worth it.
 
2013-12-05 01:46:49 PM

Lando Lincoln: "Now WHY would we want to insure sickly people? There's no profit in THAT!"

The true ugliness of a capitalist system.


They want to insure you.  They just don't want to pay any of your claims is all.
 
2013-12-05 01:50:18 PM
"everything in his power" likely means "suing, losing in court and spending millions of taxpayer dollars only to have to enforce it anyway"
 
2013-12-05 01:50:20 PM
The analogy he is using is like saying "Oh man, you had a blown headlight when you paid your insurance for the year. So we're not going to cover the damage when a tree fell on your car."

/but we'll keep the money you paid in
//they always keep the money you paid in
 
2013-12-05 01:56:14 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "I didn't realize I was being videotaped and that got on the Internet," he said. "I never received so many nasty e-mails. I've been told that they hope I die. I've been told that they hope my children had cancer, just all kinds of things."

I hope you die in a fire as soon as possible, you worthless piece of excrement.


Die in a fire AFTER he loses his kids to preventable illnesses.  fark him with a lawnmower.
 
2013-12-05 01:56:22 PM
Yeah, where's the compassion?  What we need is a noble progressive philosophy:  From each according to ability, to each according to need.  And it should be lovingly administered by a central planning committee in DC rather than letting the stupid individuals to be free to choose.  What could possibly go wrong?

/Marx and Mao had good intentions too; never mind the outcomes
 
2013-12-05 01:57:15 PM

Il Douchey: Yeah, where's the compassion?  What we need is a noble progressive philosophy:  From each according to ability, to each according to need.  And it should be lovingly administered by a central planning committee in DC rather than letting the stupid individuals to be free to choose.  What could possibly go wrong?

/Marx and Mao had good intentions too; never mind the outcomes


Hey look guys! An argument against Obamacare by comparing it to Marxism-Leninism! How fresh, new and exciting!
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-05 01:57:23 PM

Lando Lincoln: "Now WHY would we want to insure sickly people? There's no profit in THAT!"

The true ugliness of a capitalist system.


I am still confused as to why these cretins think they have the right to make money on EVERYTHING.  One system never solves all problems.
 
2013-12-05 01:57:27 PM
I hope that this means that the insurance companies will find him "totaled" the next time he gets sick and they'll offer his family $500 for the damage before sending him off to the scrap yard.

On another note, sounds like this guy is an actual fan of death panels.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-12-05 01:59:15 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Hey look guys! An argument against Obamacare by comparing it to Marxism-Leninism! How fresh, new and exciting!


The problem is it isn't a comparison.  They sai it IS Marxism.  This is redefinition of works and the manipulation of language that was warned of in "1984".
 
2013-12-05 01:59:16 PM
That is fine and he is entitled to his view. Only thing is he should be required to provide an alternative then to the treatment of those with pre-existing conditions. If his alternative is letting them get sicker & die while going bankrupt, he should be made to admit it publicly and own up to it. He shouldn't be allowed to just vilify the uninsured as a "rationalization" without addressing the consequences of doing so.
 
2013-12-05 01:59:37 PM

Marcus Aurelius: They want to insure you. They just don't want to pay any of your claims is all.



Insurance, where you partially pre-purchase a good that both parties hope you won't want to take delivery of.
It is such a farked up concept.
 
2013-12-05 02:00:10 PM
So how is it different, exactly?
 
2013-12-05 02:00:48 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "I didn't realize I was being videotaped and that got on the Internet," he said. "I never received so many nasty e-mails. I've been told that they hope I die. I've been told that they hope my children had cancer, just all kinds of things."

I hope you die in a fire as soon as possible, you worthless piece of excrement.


Really? I hope he dies in a fire as SLOWLY as possible.
 
2013-12-05 02:00:49 PM

netizencain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Eddie Adams from Torrance: I'd rather have lupus than socialism.


It's not socialism

[www.rightwingnews.com image 400x498]


what the fark is this?
 
2013-12-05 02:00:50 PM

Il Douchey: Yeah, where's the compassion?  What we need is a noble progressive philosophy:  From each according to ability, to each according to need.  And it should be lovingly administered by a central planning committee in DC rather than letting the stupid individuals to be free to choose.  What could possibly go wrong?

/Marx and Mao had good intentions too; never mind the outcomes


Whereas the robber barons that thrive in unregulated capitalist societies have shiatty intentions AND shiatty outcomes.
 
2013-12-05 02:01:02 PM
My niece was born with Down syndrome. She was also born with a hole in her heart. Obviously, she's responsible for those maladies and no insurance company should pay for her care.
 
2013-12-05 02:01:05 PM

plewis: Marcus Aurelius: "I didn't realize I was being videotaped and that got on the Internet," he said. "I never received so many nasty e-mails. I've been told that they hope I die. I've been told that they hope my children had cancer, just all kinds of things."

I hope you die in a fire as soon as possible, you worthless piece of excrement.

Die in a fire AFTER he loses his kids to preventable illnesses.  fark him with a lawnmower.


Why ruin a lawnmower....throw him in the shark tank at the Georgia Aquarium
 
2013-12-05 02:01:08 PM

d23: cameroncrazy1984: Hey look guys! An argument against Obamacare by comparing it to Marxism-Leninism! How fresh, new and exciting!

The problem is it isn't a comparison.  They sai it IS Marxism.  This is redefinition of works and the manipulation of language that was warned of in "1984".


When government and corporate interests work together to impose their will upon the populace, that's not socialism or Marxism, but a whole different "ism" altogether.
 
2013-12-05 02:01:16 PM

Mikey1969: I hope that this means that the insurance companies will find him "totaled" the next time he gets sick and they'll offer his family $500 for the damage before sending him off to the scrap yard.

On another note, sounds like this guy is an actual fan of death panels.


Only if they are freedom loving death panels, composed of capitalist insurance company employees.

Not Marxist death panels, composed of freedom hating government bureaucrats.

/hm, it was funny when I started it
//now, not so much
///oh well, slashies
 
2013-12-05 02:01:34 PM

BMFPitt: So how is it different, exactly?


You may never need car insurance, but you will 100% need health insurance.
 
2013-12-05 02:03:17 PM
Just thought of something.  If the ACA works as it is supposed to, eventually there will really be no thing as a "pre-existing condition".  People will have proper medical care from birth to grave and not be caught in an uninsured state looking for insurance while having a chronic condition.
 
2013-12-05 02:03:35 PM

Marcus Aurelius: netizencain: So, ya... this guy's an idiot.

Which would normally be fine, except that he's also the insurance commissioner.  If I lived in Georgia, I'd be screaming for his head.


Obligatory: http://xkcd.com/154/
 
2013-12-05 02:03:43 PM

Magorn: gilgigamesh: Having dealt with challenging preexisting condition exclusions professionally, I can tell you their only purpose is as a cheap out for the company to break the contract when it comes time to pay. Insurers literally comb thru your medical records looking for a time you were prescribed Tylenol and use it to deny coverage you paid for once you legitimately need it.

What's worse is that as insurance commissioner, he knows this better than anyone.

Recission Committees are actually a thing at most insurers and they are as ugly and heartless as your worst imaginings

if the ONLY thing Obamacare accomplished was making this sort of corporate thievery illegal, then all of it, even last bit of sturm and drang and angest over the law will have been worth it.


A recission and life time caps by insurance companies are the real death panels.
 
2013-12-05 02:03:55 PM
FTA
"I didn't realize I was being videotaped and that got on the Internet," he said.

Oh...well then. By all means, please spout whatever hateful drivel you want to.

If you are living in today's world, you should always assume that you are always being recorded and that it will always be posted to the internet.

The solution to make yourself not look like an asshole is therefore...DONT ACT LIKE AN ASSHOLE
 
2013-12-05 02:04:48 PM
This is what Republicans really believe.
 
2013-12-05 02:05:41 PM

sdd2000: Magorn: gilgigamesh: Having dealt with challenging preexisting condition exclusions professionally, I can tell you their only purpose is as a cheap out for the company to break the contract when it comes time to pay. Insurers literally comb thru your medical records looking for a time you were prescribed Tylenol and use it to deny coverage you paid for once you legitimately need it.

What's worse is that as insurance commissioner, he knows this better than anyone.

Recission Committees are actually a thing at most insurers and they are as ugly and heartless as your worst imaginings

if the ONLY thing Obamacare accomplished was making this sort of corporate thievery illegal, then all of it, even last bit of sturm and drang and angest over the law will have been worth it.

A recission and life time caps by insurance companies are the real death panels.


Also insurance company precertification boards.
 
2013-12-05 02:08:17 PM

Serious Black: My niece was born with Down syndrome. She was also born with a hole in her heart. Obviously, she's responsible for those maladies and no insurance company should pay for her care.


What makes their views on this even more horrible are their stances on genetic testing, abortions, etc:

"Oh, we can't allow abortions even if the child will be mentally retarded. It is God's will"

After the birth

"Yeah, that pre-existing condition shouldn't be covered. Maybe try praying to see if God will help you out"
 
2013-12-05 02:08:24 PM

Serious Black: sdd2000: Magorn: gilgigamesh: Having dealt with challenging preexisting condition exclusions professionally, I can tell you their only purpose is as a cheap out for the company to break the contract when it comes time to pay. Insurers literally comb thru your medical records looking for a time you were prescribed Tylenol and use it to deny coverage you paid for once you legitimately need it.

What's worse is that as insurance commissioner, he knows this better than anyone.

Recission Committees are actually a thing at most insurers and they are as ugly and heartless as your worst imaginings

if the ONLY thing Obamacare accomplished was making this sort of corporate thievery illegal, then all of it, even last bit of sturm and drang and angest over the law will have been worth it.

A recission and life time caps by insurance companies are the real death panels.

Also insurance company precertification boards.


Also, also, medical preauthorization.
 
2013-12-05 02:08:56 PM

heavymetal: Just thought of something.  If the ACA works as it is supposed to, eventually there will really be no thing as a "pre-existing condition".  People will have proper medical care from birth to grave and not be caught in an uninsured state looking for insurance while having a chronic condition.


Yeah, just think, someone born in 2014 when they get to studying what was going on in the Obama administration will look at this and say "What the hell was a pre-existing condtion?  How can you pre-exist?"  I'm happy that this term will be tossed back into the hell it crawled from.
 
2013-12-05 02:09:00 PM
As usual, like with Romney and his 47% comment, he sees nothing wrong with what he said. Nothing whatsoever. What he's upset about is that the plebes found out he said it.
 
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