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(Yahoo)   A merciless dissection of youth culture in decline ..... Twenty years on from his death, Frank Zappa might roll over and gag himself with a spoon in his grave if he were to know that "Valley Girl" remained his most enduring public legacy   (music.yahoo.com) divider line 116
    More: Sad, valley girls, Frank Zappa, Marc Maron, mixed feelings, sound check, London Symphony Orchestra, Moon Unit, Alicia Silverstone  
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2013-12-05 01:54:45 PM  
Don't make a novelty record and then complain when it is your biggest hit.

Valley Girl

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-05 01:56:58 PM  
I dunno, Zappa always appreciated irony. He might approve.
 
2013-12-05 01:59:36 PM  
Subby, when the biggest hit made in Zappa's own studio was "Wipeout" by a buncha guys from Glendora who had no idea what a B-Side was so in 20 minutes @ the studio they dropped the lyrics from their A-Side("Surfer Joe") & sped the beat up, I'd say Frank knew the score-I mean, "Missing Persons" was spawned from his band...
 
2013-12-05 01:59:39 PM  
Completely forgot Zappa did Valley Girl. That's how much it affected his legacy.
 
2013-12-05 02:00:17 PM  
If FZ were alive today he'd be polishing the masters on another successful NYC Halloween show a few weeks ago, hell, in this internet age he'd probably have released the recording already.
 
2013-12-05 02:03:26 PM  
He dissed da Beatlez, so fark him
 
2013-12-05 02:04:12 PM  

mediablitz: Completely forgot Zappa did Valley Girl.


Among others.
 
2013-12-05 02:06:09 PM  
I'd say 'titties and beer' was his most enduring track.
 
2013-12-05 02:06:13 PM  
When will the Chicken Little culture that has infected people who consider themselves superior to others because of their taste/intelligence/preferences come to an end?
 
2013-12-05 02:07:14 PM  

mediablitz: Completely forgot Zappa did Valley Girl. That's how much it affected his legacy.


Yeah, there are a million other songs out there for the actual informed fan to choose from, and many are just as silly as Valley Girl, and just as fun. To drill down Frank Zappa's career to not just a single song, but a single style or even sub genre  of music is ridiculously stupid. Hell, he had piles of stuff that was slated for TV and film scores when he died, not to mention his released albums. I don't think Zappa is in any danger of being lost by people who wouldn't have been fans in the first place.
 
2013-12-05 02:07:31 PM  
Sorry subby, I'm movin' to Montana.
 
2013-12-05 02:10:52 PM  
I like Valley Girl, Catholic Girls, Goblin Girl, and Titties and Beer.  I'd say Valley Girl had the most social commentary.  The rest were crude for the sake of being crude (which I guess was social commentary too, considering it was the 80's.)
 
2013-12-05 02:10:56 PM  

LeroyBourne: I'd say 'titties and beer' was his most enduring track.


Love the whole Baby Snakes album. Dinah Moe Hum, Punky's Whips...Jones Crusher....
 
2013-12-05 02:12:40 PM  

Good Behavior Day: I like Valley Girl, Catholic Girls, Goblin Girl, and Titties and Beer.  I'd say Valley Girl had the most social commentary.  The rest were crude for the sake of being crude (which I guess was social commentary too, considering it was the 80's.)


If those songs are the thin end to the wedge for new fans then they are valuable.
 
2013-12-05 02:13:16 PM  
Centerville...
 
2013-12-05 02:13:37 PM  

LeroyBourne: I'd say 'titties and beer' was his most enduring track.


Yup.
 
2013-12-05 02:14:46 PM  

Mikey1969: LeroyBourne: I'd say 'titties and beer' was his most enduring track.

Love the whole Baby Snakes album. Dinah Moe Hum, Punky's Whips...Jones Crusher....


I'm a fan not a hard-core fan.  I'll fire up the spotify when I get home and give the whole album a listen.
/thanks
 
2013-12-05 02:15:29 PM  
It's 'Illinois Enema Bandit' and then everything else.
 
2013-12-05 02:15:42 PM  
Gonna throw on Joe's Garage (Act I). I need a little crew slut and wet t-shirt night...
 
2013-12-05 02:17:12 PM  
It would really be fun to put some Zappa on Spotify over the office speakers, but it would either have to be something highly offensive like Titties and Beer(Or Dinah Moe Humm), something nobody got, or a long extended jazz jam session. Any way I look at it, it probably would go over like a lead balloon...

/But it would be fun
 
2013-12-05 02:19:30 PM  
I miss hearing "Don't eat the yellow snow" every time it snows.

Zappa was awesome.... that is all
 
2013-12-05 02:19:35 PM  

LewDux: He dissed da Beatlez, so fark him


They were just a 60s version of n'Sync, or any other boy band. So FZ was right.
 
2013-12-05 02:21:21 PM  

Good Behavior Day: I like Valley Girl, Catholic Girls, Goblin Girl, and Titties and Beer.  I'd say Valley Girl had the most social commentary.  The rest were crude for the sake of being crude (which I guess was social commentary too, considering it was the 80's.)


Yep..Catholic Girls is awesome.  I'm also partial to Broken Hearts are for A-holes and Be bop Tango.

/and Bobby Brown has a special place in my heart
/of course I'll introduce you to Warren
 
2013-12-05 02:23:18 PM  

LeroyBourne: Mikey1969: LeroyBourne: I'd say 'titties and beer' was his most enduring track.

Love the whole Baby Snakes album. Dinah Moe Hum, Punky's Whips...Jones Crusher....

I'm a fan not a hard-core fan.  I'll fire up the spotify when I get home and give the whole album a listen.
/thanks


I guess it lists as a "Soundtrack", but it's really just studio cuts of the music from one of his shows. It actually sounds weirder the more I think about it. They aren't 'live' songs, but they are the soundtrack to a concert film, usually means "live". Either way, it's a great album, it's what got me really listening to him.
 
2013-12-05 02:24:54 PM  

LeroyBourne: I'd say 'titties and beer' was his most enduring track.


"I Promise Not To Come In Your Mouth" has to be up there as well

STINKFOOT!
 
2013-12-05 02:26:42 PM  
Not a big Zappa fan, but Hot Rats is a wonderful album.
 
2013-12-05 02:31:42 PM  
Never got into Zappa, and this reminds me that I've been meaning to.  Recommendations for starting points seem to prevalently be (in no particular order) Freak Out!, We're Only In It For the Money, and/or Hot Rats.  Does Fark agree?
 
2013-12-05 02:32:17 PM  
Oh, and maybe Apostrophe.
 
2013-12-05 02:34:59 PM  

LeroyBourne: Mikey1969: LeroyBourne: I'd say 'titties and beer' was his most enduring track.

Love the whole Baby Snakes album. Dinah Moe Hum, Punky's Whips...Jones Crusher....

I'm a fan not a hard-core fan.  I'll fire up the spotify when I get home and give the whole album a listen.
/thanks


Here's the Wiki page for the Baby Snakes film. Still not sure how much is "movie" and how much is "live performance". I should never have tried to tackle that description myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Snakes
 
2013-12-05 02:37:16 PM  

ten foiled hats: Never got into Zappa, and this reminds me that I've been meaning to.  Recommendations for starting points seem to prevalently be (in no particular order) Freak Out!, We're Only In It For the Money, and/or Hot Rats.  Does Fark agree?


Apostrphe/Overnite Sensastion would be a good place to start.  Or, if you like theme albums, Joe's Garage.
 
2013-12-05 02:38:07 PM  
Zoot allures, bongo fury, both are really solid albums. Could go on, would eat lunch tho
 
2013-12-05 02:39:23 PM  

time is tight: Zoot allures, bongo fury, both are really solid albums. Could go on, would eat lunch tho


Rather eat lunch, that is
 
2013-12-05 02:39:38 PM  
The result was one of those pop Rorschach tests. Was it a merciless dissection of youth culture in decline, or a mirthful celebration of kidspeak?

. . .This was in contrast to the positive spin put on it by Moon Unit herself, who insisted to the press, "He's not putting Vals down."


"Tosses her head and flips her hair/ She got a whole bunch of nothin' in there"

"Last idea to cross her mind/ Had something to do with where to find/ A pair of jeans to fit her butt/ And where to get her toenails cut"

Yeah, I don't think Frank was "celebrating" anything.
 
2013-12-05 02:39:59 PM  
FTFA:  "Moon, meanwhile, eventually dropped the "Unit" from her name"

I don't think she's ever acknowledged the "Unit" as anything but her middle name.  Her family and friends always called her Moon.  It's mainly the press and the public who insist on tacking it on like it's hyphenated.

/Frank gave her the middle name Unit because she was his first-born
 
2013-12-05 02:40:16 PM  
He was a backdoor man long before Rev. Saddleback's abstinence-only 'sex ed' made it popular.
 
2013-12-05 02:41:13 PM  
Yeah, Uncle Frank don't care, man.
He's dead.
 
2013-12-05 02:41:21 PM  

ten foiled hats: Never got into Zappa, and this reminds me that I've been meaning to.  Recommendations for starting points seem to prevalently be (in no particular order) Freak Out!, We're Only In It For the Money, and/or Hot Rats.  Does Fark agree?


The one I would recommend is One Size Fits All.  Fantastic performances all round from one of his hottest bands.
 
2013-12-05 02:42:14 PM  
why does it hurt when I pee?
 
2013-12-05 02:45:04 PM  
I'm not sure how subtard gleened from that interview that Valley Girl is his "his most enduring public legacy". The guy has a massive body of work, and I rarely hear that song mentioned.
 
2013-12-05 02:45:21 PM  
.....I seem to recall Adrien Belew doing an annoying song with his little girl too.
 
2013-12-05 02:48:04 PM  

ten foiled hats: Never got into Zappa, and this reminds me that I've been meaning to.  Recommendations for starting points seem to prevalently be (in no particular order) Freak Out!, We're Only In It For the Money, and/or Hot Rats.  Does Fark agree?


Ask ten FZ fans and get eleven different answers...
His music was so diverse over the years, and even on most individual albums, that there isn't much consensus.
Hot Rats was very popular in the UK and is a quite accessible collection, but for every Hot Rats fan there's another that prefers the more rewarding Uncle Meat from that era.
My favorite whole album is Tinseltown Rebellion, it's fun but still has crazy virtuoso stuff in spades, and hasn't been played to death like other albums from that era (Joe's Garage/Sheik Yerbouti).
That said, all I seem to listen to these days is him playing guitar, stuff like Sleep Dirt (the track).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDKs-SxG7xk
 
2013-12-05 02:48:12 PM  

ten foiled hats: Oh, and maybe Apostrophe.


Just jump right in to Civilization, Phase III. This was his last work, and he knew that to be the case.

/Joe's Garage is pretty much perfect, though.
//plooking too hard..
 
2013-12-05 02:48:57 PM  

Mikey1969: LeroyBourne: Mikey1969: LeroyBourne: I'd say 'titties and beer' was his most enduring track.

Love the whole Baby Snakes album. Dinah Moe Hum, Punky's Whips...Jones Crusher....

I'm a fan not a hard-core fan.  I'll fire up the spotify when I get home and give the whole album a listen.
/thanks

Here's the Wiki page for the Baby Snakes film. Still not sure how much is "movie" and how much is "live performance". I should never have tried to tackle that description myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Snakes


Thanks again.  I was gonna ask about the movie, but then I thought to myself you can to the leg work you shlub.
 
2013-12-05 02:49:31 PM  
ooops. Adri A n ....not "Adrien"  ...my spell check didn't like the "a" when I first attempted it.
 
2013-12-05 02:49:32 PM  

YoOjo: ten foiled hats: Never got into Zappa, and this reminds me that I've been meaning to.  Recommendations for starting points seem to prevalently be (in no particular order) Freak Out!, We're Only In It For the Money, and/or Hot Rats.  Does Fark agree?

That said, all I seem to listen to these days is him playing guitar, stuff like Sleep Dirt (the track).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDKs-SxG7xk


Yes, Sleep Dirt is fantastic!
 
2013-12-05 02:50:26 PM  

stupiddream: ten foiled hats: Never got into Zappa, and this reminds me that I've been meaning to.  Recommendations for starting points seem to prevalently be (in no particular order) Freak Out!, We're Only In It For the Money, and/or Hot Rats.  Does Fark agree?

Apostrphe/Overnite Sensastion would be a good place to start.  Or, if you like theme albums, Joe's Garage.


Also if you like amazing drumming.
 
2013-12-05 02:50:53 PM  

craigdamage: .....I seem to recall Adrien Belew doing an annoying song with his little girl too.


Was that Lone Rhinoceros?
I had that album on vinyl, can't find it on digital now to re-visit though.
 
2013-12-05 02:51:06 PM  
Sing me "Whipping Post"
 
2013-12-05 02:56:18 PM  
As much as I enjoy his catalog, I would recommend Does Humor belong in Music for people dipping their toe in the Zappa waters. Also, Broadway the Hardway has some fantastic performances. Celebrating his music I would recommend Zappa's Universe
 
2013-12-05 03:00:12 PM  
The Onion said it best.
 
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