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(American Thinker)   This article on American Exceptionalism is best read in Jim Belushi's voice while playing a slow-march version of John Brown's Body   (americanthinker.com) divider line 101
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2013-12-05 08:37:54 AM
American Exceptionalism is real and is an important part in American foreign policy. This version is the kind of exceptionalism that is best summed up with the phrase "Why?! Becuase f*ck you, that's why!"
 
2013-12-05 08:52:00 AM
The fact that we tend to be armed to the teeth and fairly ruthless certainly helped our country grow and succeed.
 
2013-12-05 09:01:21 AM
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2013-12-05 09:08:13 AM
I'll just leave this here.

You may not like the show, but that speech is pretty spot on.
 
2013-12-05 09:25:34 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-05 09:38:13 AM

Bareefer Obonghit: I'll just leave this here.

You may not like the show, but that speech is pretty spot on.


It's actually not a very good speech because it's bad analysis. Those statistics, taken on their own, do seem damning. But those (and others) do not tell the whole story, even in aggregate. And I'm not talking about explanations about how our infant mortality is high because of different counting methods and the intervention of medical technology nor about how some smaller nations design their education system to eke out the highest standardized scores but not particularly good students. It's also that, without knowing how the competition fares, it's impossible to tell from that grab-bag of statistics whether we're the best or not even when judging merely by those metrics. The assumption is that we rank low enough on all of those that, surely, at least one, if not multiple countries, out-perform along all those statistics - something that's not actually claimed, much less supported by that argument.

In fact, a "better" country is rarely offered, probably because it's easy to tear down any of the alternatives. Replace the US with "democracy" and make the rant not about "best country" but "best political system" and you could make very similar arguments about how democracy has a list of sins and failures throughout history. Does that mean that it's reasonable to say, "I don't know what the fark you're talking about," when someone says democracy is the best system?

I understand the criticism of the pretentious and self-congratulatory nature of, "we're the best country in the world," and how it can be used to gloss-over real problems or, at its most nefarious, be used to justify abuses committed in our name. While this rant as a response to "best country in the world" is good for challenging that assertion, it's not actually any better as a stand-alone proposition. The rant would have worked better not as outraged, "no we're not," but delivered as something less abusive. It tries to be The Newsroom's answer to President Bartlet's takedown of Dr. Jenna Jacobs but, to me, is a much weaker execution of what's really a rather similar concept.
 
2013-12-05 09:38:36 AM
The same farks that decry kids getting "participation awards" and ribbons just for existing are largely the same ones who believe America is special and exceptional just because or because God likes us more.

Exceptionalism is earned.  It's not an inherent quality.  And while I think our structure of governance is special, the story doesn't end there.
 
2013-12-05 09:44:02 AM

Diogenes: because God likes us more.


I never understood that logic. How does God like us more? Just in the data of natural disasters (or "Acts of God") in the last 10-15 years show some pretty big contempt for us from the big man above.
 
2013-12-05 09:46:20 AM

Diogenes: The same farks that decry kids getting "participation awards" and ribbons just for existing are largely the same ones who believe America is special and exceptional just because or because God likes us more.

Exceptionalism is earned.  It's not an inherent quality.  And while I think our structure of governance is special, the story doesn't end there.


There seems to be more than a hint of old school Calvinist predetermination in the republican definition of American exceptional...ism. Sorry, but the iPad autocorrect absolutely refuses to render exceptionali..sim as anything other than ALL CAPS. I think my iPad has picked up my snarkiness and run with it. Kinda creepy actually.
 
2013-12-05 09:46:51 AM

somedude210: Diogenes: because God likes us more.

I never understood that logic. How does God like us more? Just in the data of natural disasters (or "Acts of God") in the last 10-15 years show some pretty big contempt for us from the big man above.


The second you try to reconcile faith-based arguments you've forsaken any hope of logic.
 
2013-12-05 09:48:06 AM

Diogenes: The same farks that decry kids getting "participation awards" and ribbons just for existing are largely the same ones who believe America is special and exceptional just because or because God likes us more.

Exceptionalism is earned.  It's not an inherent quality.  And while I think our structure of governance is special, the story doesn't end there.


It's really a form of slacktivism. We're exceptional because we say we are and we have some admirable people in our history, so we've nothing to prove and can sit here feeling good about ourselves.
 
2013-12-05 09:48:15 AM

Weaver95: Calvinist predetermination


Makes me want to beat my head with a rock.
 
2013-12-05 09:48:42 AM

somedude210: Diogenes: because God likes us more.

I never understood that logic. How does God like us more? Just in the data of natural disasters (or "Acts of God") in the last 10-15 years show some pretty big contempt for us from the big man above.


That's because of the gays, who aren't really Americans.
 
2013-12-05 09:50:39 AM

Diogenes: Weaver95: Calvinist predetermination

Makes me want to beat my head with a rock.


Calvin would say that says more about you than predetermination.

The most malevolent part of it, of course, is that people could do what they wanted to others and justify it as having been ordained.
 
2013-12-05 09:50:41 AM
There is nothing exceptional about America or being American.  Nationalism is bullshiat.
 
2013-12-05 09:50:47 AM

vygramul: slacktivism


Oh I'm so using that.  Brilliant!

Also explains Reagan worship.  Or invoking Lincoln's party over a century ago when faced with charges of racism.

"Yeah, but there was that one guy that done the nice things for the coloreds!"
 
2013-12-05 09:51:20 AM
Fancy words to justify dickish arrogance around the world. People can rationalize anything.
 
2013-12-05 09:52:52 AM
Ah, it must be White Supremacist Appreciation Day, with all the American Thinker (a Mainstream Republican media outlet) links so early in the morning. Then again, at Fark every Thursday seems to be White Supremacist Appreciation Day.
 
2013-12-05 09:52:53 AM

somedude210: Diogenes: because God likes us more.

I never understood that logic. How does God like us more? Just in the data of natural disasters (or "Acts of God") in the last 10-15 years show some pretty big contempt for us from the big man above.


It's like climate change. Just as cold weather doesn't disprove global warming, natural disasters don't disprove that God likes us more. You have to look at the long term trends.
 
2013-12-05 09:53:35 AM

minoridiot: [upload.wikimedia.org image 850x1280]


I'm feeling a little bit stabby right now.
 
2013-12-05 09:54:22 AM

vygramul: In fact, a "better" country is rarely offered, probably because it's easy to tear down any of the alternatives

.

Alright, so why is the US "better" than Canada?  List enough ways America is better than Canada to outweigh all the obvious and objective ways Canada is better than America (crime, health, quality of life, income inequality, poverty, etc.)

/Difficulty: No meaningless buzzwords like "freedom".
//I'll even get you started:  Canada is cold as shiat.
 
2013-12-05 09:55:07 AM
Of course if the Russians, Italians, Persians or Somalis had laid claim to the land within the boundaries of the US, they could claim a very different strength.

There's something about a virgin country that allowed old world food to grow at astounding rates, where even the bees were twice as efficient, and the stranglehold of politics and crowding went away as soon as the ship's dock was over the next hill.
 
2013-12-05 09:55:35 AM
When he said that we were "on a journey only America could fulfill" I began to wonder what fulfilment he was talking about. What destination did he assume was out there?

Then I got to the part about the church being the most important political structure and have to assume he means the End-Times.
 
2013-12-05 09:56:00 AM
American Exceptionalism is a real thing

When people are allowed to challenge everything from religious dogma to social norms thats when culture flourishes.

Neil deGrasse Tyson did a speech on Intelligent design and on how Arabs went from being the most scientifically and mathematically advanced civilization to being happy to fly planes into buildings. He talks about how the Arabs went from being the most progressive civilization to the most regressive civilization resulted in the death of the Arabic Exceptionalism.

Thats what we need. We can't just say that things happen because of Jesus and expect us to be Exceptional. We need to challenge the basis of civilization in order to improve our understanding and technology of the world.
 
2013-12-05 09:56:57 AM

Rann Xerox: minoridiot: [upload.wikimedia.org image 850x1280]

I'm feeling a little bit stabby right now.


That image has been used more than once in high school history classes. We're really not nearly as removed from that as we like to pretend.
 
2013-12-05 09:58:08 AM
It's easy to believe your country is the best when you know sweet FA about other countries, and when your own media spoonfeeds the public outright lies (by omission and otherwise) about your history, foreign and domestic.
 
2013-12-05 09:59:26 AM

dookdookdook: vygramul: In fact, a "better" country is rarely offered, probably because it's easy to tear down any of the alternatives.

Alright, so why is the US "better" than Canada?  List enough ways America is better than Canada to outweigh all the obvious and objective ways Canada is better than America (crime, health, quality of life, income inequality, poverty, etc.)

/Difficulty: No meaningless buzzwords like "freedom".
//I'll even get you started:  Canada is cold as shiat.


Obligatory
 
2013-12-05 09:59:58 AM

somedude210: Diogenes: because God likes us more.

I never understood that logic. How does God like us more? Just in the data of natural disasters (or "Acts of God") in the last 10-15 years show some pretty big contempt for us from the big man above.


Because gay "marriage".  Duh.  We lifted God's veil of protection thanks to those heathens and their insistance on butt-farking, so there are more hurricanes, tornadoes and earthqueakes.
 
2013-12-05 10:00:00 AM
Are these exceptional Americans the same rugged individualists who have no time for that political correctness mumbo-jumbo, yet cry like a fat girl denied cake at her quinceanera whenever somebody says something that offends their delicate feelings until somebody loses their job as a result? Those exceptional Americans?

The proper word isn't "exceptional," we tend to use "special."
 
2013-12-05 10:01:22 AM
Conservatives are like 5 year olds who think mommy is the most beautiful and perfect being in the universe and can do no wrong.
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Conservatives think that liberals are like teenagers who hate their moms to the guts as they are the most evil and imperfect beings and are ruining their lives.

But liberals are mostly like mature adults who can disagree with their moms but still love them, want to look after them and are thankful for all they have offered while recognizing all their defects and shortcomings.
 
2013-12-05 10:02:16 AM
America's exceptional because we have the freedom to tell all them liberal, college-elitistists that they can either say, "Happy Birthday, Jesus!" in December IN ENGLISH, or they can get the fark out.
 
2013-12-05 10:02:51 AM

EyeballKid: Are these exceptional Americans the same rugged individualists who have no time for that political correctness mumbo-jumbo, yet cry like a fat girl denied cake at her quinceanera whenever somebody says something that offends their delicate feelings until somebody loses their job as a result? Those exceptional Americans?

The proper word isn't "exceptional," we tend to use "special."


Just whisper "Happy Holidays" to them and watch them fly apart.
 
2013-12-05 10:03:02 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: It's like climate change. Just as cold weather doesn't disprove global warming, natural disasters don't disprove that God likes us more. You have to look at the long term trends.


okay, looking back at the recorded weather history, God has hated us more in the last 40 years than in the first 160
 
2013-12-05 10:03:03 AM

jakomo002: It's easy to believe your country is the best when you know sweet FA about other countries, and when your own media spoonfeeds the public outright lies (by omission and otherwise) about your history, foreign and domestic.


U.S. media is exceptionally good at keeping us infromed.
 
2013-12-05 10:06:02 AM

EyeballKid: The proper word isn't "exceptional," we tend to use "special."


Tell that to my Exceptional Learners: An Introduction to Special Education textbook.
 
2013-12-05 10:06:38 AM

vygramul: U.S. media is exceptionally good at keeping us infromed.


I LOLed.
 
2013-12-05 10:07:14 AM

Bareefer Obonghit: I'll just leave this here.

You may not like the show, but that speech is pretty spot on.


No, it sounds like a privileged whiny white Hollywood liberal jackass who's imagining all the things he wish he had said to a privileged whiny white orange county conservative jackass at a cocktail party.

There's way too much of "the jerk store called, and they're running out of you" in that scene.
 
2013-12-05 10:10:21 AM
Yes we're awesome, if the definition of awesome is stupid as a brain-damaged mule.

i.huffpost.com
 
2013-12-05 10:12:08 AM
Was this article written by the Sarah Palin Speech Generator? It's got more meaningless rhetoric and non-contectualized buzzwords than an IT sales presentation circa 2002.
 
2013-12-05 10:14:18 AM

somedude210: I never understood that logic. How does God like us more? Just in the data of natural disasters (or "Acts of God") in the last 10-15 years show some pretty big contempt for us from the big man above.


God *DOES* love us more he just isn't too happy about gay marriage.
 
2013-12-05 10:17:03 AM

minnesotaboy: Yes we're awesome, if the definition of awesome is stupid as a brain-damaged mule.

[i.huffpost.com image 570x420]


When you're already the best, it's pretty outstanding to nevertheless have a rate of improvement that's in the middle of the pack.
 
2013-12-05 10:17:56 AM

Muta: somedude210: I never understood that logic. How does God like us more? Just in the data of natural disasters (or "Acts of God") in the last 10-15 years show some pretty big contempt for us from the big man above.

God *DOES* love us more he just isn't too happy about gay marriage.


And you always hurt the one you love.
 
2013-12-05 10:18:05 AM

Muta: God *DOES* love us more he just isn't too happy about gay marriage.


Yeah....I highly doubt that. He *may* just dislike his followers hating their neighbors, despite his son's teachings not to do such crap. That may explain why the South gets hit the hardest with those super-Hurricanes
 
2013-12-05 10:18:30 AM
FarkedOver: There is nothing exceptional about America or being American.  Nationalism is bullshiat.
 
2013-12-05 10:20:26 AM

The Larch: Bareefer Obonghit: I'll just leave this here.

You may not like the show, but that speech is pretty spot on.

No, it sounds like a privileged whiny white Hollywood liberal jackass who's imagining all the things he wish he had said to a privileged whiny white orange county conservative jackass at a cocktail party.

There's way too much of "the jerk store called, and they're running out of you" in that scene.


You're right. America is best at everything. And fark anybody who wants to come here and make a better life for themselves.
 
2013-12-05 10:22:42 AM

Graffito: Just whisper "Happy Holidays" to them and watch them fly apart.


I just saw an article that the NRCC are putting that phrase on the banned list (but they pulled the shirt from their online store). Which is super-duper-extra hilarious, as this is last year's "holiday season" message (both the page and video are titled "Happy Holidays"), from their own website, in their own chairman's words.

// "Happy Holidays is what liberals say"
// get it? because only a liberal would care about wishing everyone well!
 
2013-12-05 10:22:47 AM

somedude210: Muta: God *DOES* love us more he just isn't too happy about gay marriage.

Yeah....I highly doubt that. He *may* just dislike his followers hating their neighbors, despite his son's teachings not to do such crap. That may explain why the South gets hit the hardest with those super-Hurricanes


He is trying to destroy the French Quarter and wash away the sadomy stains.
 
2013-12-05 10:25:18 AM
AT is publishing 7th grade social studies homework assignments now?
 
2013-12-05 10:28:17 AM
I just read the article on the main page about the idiots dry firing a gun before it was later loaded and "wet" fired.

Yup, americans are exceptional.
 
2013-12-05 10:28:53 AM

Muta: He is trying to destroy the French Quarter and wash away the sadomy stains.


Florida isn't the French Quarter. Try again
 
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