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(Opposing Views)   "Holt and his friends were dry-firing the gun at each other for fun earlier in the day." Hmmm, I wonder how this story ends   (opposingviews.com) divider line 417
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2013-12-05 05:06:59 PM

morcoth: Sooo, your saying only LE should be able to commit mass murder.... Im assuming that the targets would be the civilians armed with nerf bats, and iphones?

Im not sure I want to live in your fantasy land anymore.


Heh.  It's a bit of hyperbole in different opinions united.  Then again, an Assault Weapon with 30-round magazine is overkill...unless they're Personal Defense Weapons (as a recent DHS order called AR-15s).
 
2013-12-05 05:10:17 PM
stevarooni:
Heh.  It's a bit of hyperbole in different opinions united.  Then again, an Assault Weapon with 30-round magazine is overkill...unless they're Personal Defense Weapons (as a recent DHS order called AR-15s).

Personally, I dislike 30 round magazines.  I prefer belts as a feeding device.  That being said:  Beltguns tend to get very heavy very quickly.  After all:  If a gun wasn't meant to have a thousand rounds of loaded ammo available to be fired with a single pull of the trigger, it wouldn't have the capability built into the design.
 
2013-12-05 05:27:15 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: demaL-demaL-yeH: Secret Master of All Flatulence: a gun that has a three round burst capabiliity to be a "machinegun".

Not to be trusted with a dull spork, strand of overcooked spaghetti, ball of yarn, or firearm.

[i135.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Well, in that case, it's probably fairly lucky that the above pictured resident of my safe hasn't killed anybody since at least 1968.


2 questions:

1) Is that an MG-42 aka "Hitlers Buzzsaw"?

2) Can I come over to your house to play?
 
2013-12-05 05:44:51 PM

CasperImproved: umad: CasperImproved: Two friends playing with a third friend's gun (owner at fault for allowing).

After friends play with gun, they did not observe owner load same gun, then put it back on the table. (owners fault).

Two friends play with the loaded gun with assumable results (owners fault).

Were the two friends stupid? Yes.

But who was criminally negligent and ultimately responsible for this tragedy?

The idiot who pointed the gun and pulled the trigger. She broke every rule of gun safety. It is all on her.

You tragically illustrate the mindset behind those I would never allow (if I could) to own a firearm.

Common sense dictates that the gun owner should not have had the gun "sitting around" to be played with. Once he saw they were going to play with it, he should have taken it away as though from a child and put it away.  He compounded his negligence by loading the gun and putting it back into the "play" zone. That turned it from negligent, into criminally negligent.

While the two were completely stupid to play with a gun in the first place, the gun should never had been there for them to play with.


You tragically illustrate the mindset behind those I would never allow (if I could) to vote. The only person responsible for a person's actions is the farking person who actually performed those actions. The gun owner isn't to blame anymore than a car owner would be for having the car he left unlocked with the keys in the ignition stolen and used in a hit and run.

The hilarious part is that you have been ragging on gun owners for the entire thread about being irresponsible, yet you don't want to hold the only person who actually farking killed somebody responsible. You are a joke.
 
2013-12-05 06:06:55 PM

umad: CasperImproved: umad: CasperImproved: Two friends playing with a third friend's gun (owner at fault for allowing).

After friends play with gun, they did not observe owner load same gun, then put it back on the table. (owners fault).

Two friends play with the loaded gun with assumable results (owners fault).

Were the two friends stupid? Yes.

But who was criminally negligent and ultimately responsible for this tragedy?

The idiot who pointed the gun and pulled the trigger. She broke every rule of gun safety. It is all on her.

You tragically illustrate the mindset behind those I would never allow (if I could) to own a firearm.

Common sense dictates that the gun owner should not have had the gun "sitting around" to be played with. Once he saw they were going to play with it, he should have taken it away as though from a child and put it away.  He compounded his negligence by loading the gun and putting it back into the "play" zone. That turned it from negligent, into criminally negligent.

While the two were completely stupid to play with a gun in the first place, the gun should never had been there for them to play with.

You tragically illustrate the mindset behind those I would never allow (if I could) to vote. The only person responsible for a person's actions is the farking person who actually performed those actions. The gun owner isn't to blame anymore than a car owner would be for having the car he left unlocked with the keys in the ignition stolen and used in a hit and run.

The hilarious part is that you have been ragging on gun owners for the entire thread about being irresponsible, yet you don't want to hold the only person who actually farking killed somebody responsible. You are a joke.


Feel free to label me a "joke".... I already tagged you with an "ass that lacks common sense".
 
2013-12-05 06:26:52 PM

CasperImproved: I already tagged you with an "ass that lacks common sense".


Really? Surely you meant "his parents are asses who lack common sense", or maybe "his school teachers were asses who lack common sense." You can't possibly be holding me accountable for my own actions. That would just be negligent.
 
2013-12-05 07:29:03 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: demaL-demaL-yeH: Secret Master of All Flatulence: a gun that has a three round burst capabiliity to be a "machinegun".

Not to be trusted with a dull spork, strand of overcooked spaghetti, ball of yarn, or firearm.

[i135.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Well, in that case, it's probably fairly lucky that the above pictured resident of my safe hasn't killed anybody since at least 1968.


You earned it: That is a locked and loaded machine gun inside a house.
 
2013-12-05 07:34:01 PM
Skyd1v:  1) Is that an MG-42 aka "Hitlers Buzzsaw"?

Nope, it's a MG-34, which is basically a functional work of highly machined art, while the MG-42 is a piece of stamped trash.  Efficient, but still stamped trash.

During WWII, captured examples of the '34 were sent to Aberdeen Proving Grounds for evaluation, with the possible goal being to provide US troops with a weapon of similar quality.  After admiring it for a suitable period time, they basically said "No, it's way too finely made", and stuck with the old Browning design, as used in the 1919 and M2HB family, that we still use for some purposes.
 
2013-12-05 07:46:15 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: You earned it: That is a locked and loaded machine gun inside a house.


No, it isn't.  First off:  The bolt is closed.  It's an "open bolt" design.  Secondly, the ammo in the belt is Dewatted.  (It came from a batch of horrible Egyptian surplus that, at best, produced hangfires when fired and which I bought strictly for the components, and which is visibly different from every other round of 7.92 that I own.  The projectiles were pulled, the twine-tied cordite was removed, the primer compound was deactivated, and then the bullet was reseated, and the rounds were inserted into a functional belt.)  Even if the bolt were to be pulled back, the manual safety disengaged, and the trigger pulled, all that would happen is that there'd be a loud "Chunk!" sound, the bolt would slam forward, a round would be chambered, and then...well....nothing.
 
2013-12-05 07:48:18 PM
Oh, and I've been known to keep loaded machineguns around the house...but generally without a round chambered.
 
2013-12-05 08:11:23 PM
What ever happened to "never point a gun, whether it loaded or not, at anything you don't want a hole in."
 
2013-12-05 08:35:41 PM

CasperImproved: umad: CasperImproved: Two friends playing with a third friend's gun (owner at fault for allowing).

After friends play with gun, they did not observe owner load same gun, then put it back on the table. (owners fault).

Two friends play with the loaded gun with assumable results (owners fault).

Were the two friends stupid? Yes.

But who was criminally negligent and ultimately responsible for this tragedy?

The idiot who pointed the gun and pulled the trigger. She broke every rule of gun safety. It is all on her.

You tragically illustrate the mindset behind those I would never allow (if I could) to own a firearm.

Common sense dictates that the gun owner should not have had the gun "sitting around" to be played with. Once he saw they were going to play with it, he should have taken it away as though from a child and put it away.  He compounded his negligence by loading the gun and putting it back into the "play" zone. That turned it from negligent, into criminally negligent.

While the two were completely stupid to play with a gun in the first place, the gun should never had been there for them to play with.


All guns are loaded.  Period.
 
2013-12-05 10:13:06 PM
She couldn't tell by the weight of the gun it was loaded? Dumb biatch. Wouldn't surprise me if the gun owner and her were farking and this was the best way to eliminate the competition.
 
2013-12-05 11:04:24 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: I've been known to keep loaded machineguns around the house.


demaL-demaL-yeH: Not to be trusted

quod.
erat.
demonfarkingstrandum.
 
2013-12-05 11:14:25 PM
Hey, a nice subgun in .45 ACP is a pretty good tool for home defense.  If you put 30 rounds of .45 ACP into a Bad Guy(TM) in 15 seconds, odds are pretty good that he will cease to be a threat.  Here's a pic of our "His and Hers" SMGs:

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Just to let you know:  the Mrs's gun is the one that's blued, while mine is the one that's parkerized.  Hers actually came out of a Sheriff's Department's armory, at the cost to me of a few "post sample" M4s, complete with giggle switches.  Given the number of original mags that came with hers, I think I did quite well on that deal, even though the gun and the mags had the Department's name etched into them with an electric pencil.
 
2013-12-06 10:06:32 AM

ManateeGag: More retarded people with guns ruining to for responsible adults.


Ruining what exactly?
 
2013-12-06 12:56:12 PM

HeadLever: topcon: Your kids would have to be pretty stupid to confuse a water gun and a real gun.

Yes and no.  For kids that grew up in houses that have real guns and where they have been taught the difference and that real guns need to be hadled only with an adult around, you are correct.

However, many folks never talk about real guns and will never teach their kids how to respect the power of one.  These are the kids really don't know the difference.


In other words, abstinence-only education for firearms in ineffective?  With how often people complain that this never works for sex ed, you'd think it would be obvious, but then again most people lack any real logical reasoning.
 
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