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(Opposing Views)   "Holt and his friends were dry-firing the gun at each other for fun earlier in the day." Hmmm, I wonder how this story ends   (opposingviews.com) divider line 417
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2013-12-05 08:45:58 AM
That's what they get for dry firing a gun.

/DNRTFA
 
2013-12-05 09:08:29 AM
with a period, unlike the headline?
 
2013-12-05 09:17:53 AM
Any story that begins with people "playing" with guns is doomed from the start.

Typical lamestream media, never reporting on all of the *good* gunplay days.
 
2013-12-05 09:25:15 AM
He fixes the cable?
 
2013-12-05 09:28:13 AM
FTA: As heartbreaking as Holt's death is, he is far from the first person to be killed in an accidental shooting even this year. According to Policy Mic, accidental shootings killed 851 Americans in 2012.

I wonder how many of those accidental shootings were Darwin Awards, unlike this sad case.

/Let's throw in suicides in 2012 by guns, for good measure:
//Oh, I can't find that statistic easily on Google as the NRA fights collection of that data.
 
2013-12-05 09:38:44 AM
Well at least she learned a valuable lesson in gun safety.
 
2013-12-05 09:44:58 AM

elvisaintdead: with a period, unlike the headline?


Why does Drew hate periods?
 
2013-12-05 09:45:06 AM
Boca Raton police interviewed all witnesses of the shooting. Everyone present gave the same account of events and confirmed that the shooting was absolutely an accident.

The definition of "accident" becomes pretty expansive when a gun is involved.
 
2013-12-05 09:46:43 AM
The word "accident" doesn't really cover what happened.
 
2013-12-05 09:47:28 AM

brandent: elvisaintdead: with a period, unlike the headline?

Why does Drew hate periods?


All his furniture is white.
 
2013-12-05 09:48:25 AM

elvisaintdead: with a period, unlike the headline?


Since when do Fark headlines end with a period?
 
2013-12-05 09:48:53 AM

i2.cdn.turner.com

Score!

 
2013-12-05 09:48:54 AM
More retarded people with guns ruining to for responsible adults.
 
2013-12-05 09:50:15 AM
She'll grow up to be a single cat lady for life.
 
2013-12-05 09:50:21 AM

AirForceVet: FTA: As heartbreaking as Holt's death is, he is far from the first person to be killed in an accidental shooting even this year. According to Policy Mic, accidental shootings killed 851 Americans in 2012.

I wonder how many of those accidental shootings were Darwin Awards, unlike this sad case.

/Let's throw in suicides in 2012 by guns, for good measure:
//Oh, I can't find that statistic easily on Google as the NRA fights collection of that data.


Or, alternatively, perhaps accurate compilation of such data requires time, and at present accurate data is available only up through 2011.

However, I suspect that your belief that the National Rifle Association somehow "fights" collection of suicide data is far more likely.
 
2013-12-05 09:50:50 AM
Not sure whether to blame Florida or girlfriend.

/why not both?
 
2013-12-05 09:51:19 AM
 Someone picked up my firearm by mistake, ma'am, and someone got shot.

yes, the mistake was picking it up.
that is true
 
2013-12-05 09:51:25 AM
Everybody's responsible, until they aren't.  Nothing can be done, NOTHING.  It's like an unsolvable equation, immovable object, Carrot Top's hair.
 
2013-12-05 09:53:14 AM
memecrunch.com

/treat every weapon as if it is loaded
 
2013-12-05 09:53:20 AM
Dry firing a gun will later lead to steam cleaning a carpet.  Odds are, Stanley Steamer will not be removing pee and poo from your carpet, but more likely blood and brain, with the occasional bits of bone and hair.
 
2013-12-05 09:53:49 AM
Not that tragic of a story, just farking stupid. Irresponsible gun owners are doing more damage to "gun rights" than any anti-gun activist.

/never point a gun at something you dont intend to destroy
 
2013-12-05 09:55:56 AM
It's never a tragedy when stupid people get shot doing stupid things. Tragedy in this sort of circumstance implies an accident and getting shot playing with guns like they're children's toys is never accidental.

Ever.

The girl should be charged with murder and everyone else involved as accomplices to it.

If gun owners want to be seen as responsible, let's help them out by starting to hold them responsible when they act like farging retards with the damn things. Maybe if we started locking idiots like these up for long periods of time the only ones left in any significant measure WOULD be the ones that are actually responsible after a time.
 
2013-12-05 09:56:57 AM
Oh, my. This happened near to where I live (which is not at all a Podunkville like where these accidents tend to happen).
 
2013-12-05 09:57:24 AM

brandent: Why does Drew hate periods?


They're a bloody nuisance.
 
2013-12-05 10:00:14 AM
One of the more obscure gun safety rules: Don't pick up a gun, point it at someone's chest and pull the trigger as joke.
 
2013-12-05 10:00:22 AM
Unavailable for comment. Has to be at the casino in 26 minutes.

instinctmagazine.com
 
2013-12-05 10:00:29 AM

MelGoesOnTour: Oh, my. This happened near to where I live (which is not at all a Podunkville like where these accidents tend to happen).


I just realized I saw a TV truck at the complex where this happened and, until now, had no idea what it was about.
 
2013-12-05 10:01:04 AM

basemetal: That's what they get for dry firing a gun.

/DNRTFA


There's nothing wrong with dry firing certain guns (while some designs, or rimfires, are bad to dry fire,) in fact it's encouraged in some cases to loosen the gun up, and can be used for training.

Dry firing guns while pointing them at people, however, is a different story.
 
2013-12-05 10:01:37 AM
My nephews wonder why I don't allow them to point toy guns, Nerf guns, or squirt guns at me or each other. Bad habits are hard to break. We never had BB guns when I was a kid, because kids will treat them like toys. We could, however, go shooting real guns with adult supervision whenever we asked. At age 11 each of my brothers and sister and I received our first .22's. By that age we'd been well drilled in gun safety.
 
2013-12-05 10:02:33 AM
Can we arrest the gun owner for being a total dipsh*t and letting them play with his gun?
 
2013-12-05 10:02:40 AM

MelGoesOnTour: Oh, my. This happened near to where I live (which is not at all a Podunkville like where these accidents tend to happen).


George Takei?
 
2013-12-05 10:02:59 AM

skozlaw: It's never a tragedy when stupid people get shot doing stupid things. Tragedy in this sort of circumstance implies an accident and getting shot playing with guns like they're children's toys is never accidental.

Ever.

The girl should be charged with murder and everyone else involved as accomplices to it.

If gun owners want to be seen as responsible, let's help them out by starting to hold them responsible when they act like farging retards with the damn things. Maybe if we started locking idiots like these up for long periods of time the only ones left in any significant measure WOULD be the ones that are actually responsible after a time.


They'll probably disappear faster if you don't lock them up.
 
2013-12-05 10:03:17 AM
so the friend quietly loaded the gun and left it there on the table?

What a pal.
 
2013-12-05 10:04:21 AM

skozlaw: It's never a tragedy when stupid people get shot doing stupid things. Tragedy in this sort of circumstance implies an accident and getting shot playing with guns like they're children's toys is never accidental.

Ever.

The girl should be charged with murder and everyone else involved as accomplices to it.

If gun owners want to be seen as responsible, let's help them out by starting to hold them responsible when they act like farging retards with the damn things. Maybe if we started locking idiots like these up for long periods of time the only ones left in any significant measure WOULD be the ones that are actually responsible after a time.


But he was also dry-firing it. So, he was attempting to murder her and it was self defense.  Therefore she's a role-model for gun rights and feminism.
 
2013-12-05 10:04:35 AM
But overall, having a gun in the house makes you safer. Sure, once in a while there are tragic unavoidable accidents like these, but nothing's perfect.
 
2013-12-05 10:04:42 AM
The gun owner should be held partly responsible for leaving their gun outside of their control.

IF anyone takes responsible gun ownership seriously.
 
2013-12-05 10:05:19 AM
No charges being filed?
WTF?

If she had driven her car down the street like an idiot and turned some 8th grader into a stain she'd be behind bars. Which one of her family members is a cop ?
 
2013-12-05 10:06:17 AM
And once again, a senseless death could have been avoided had the folks involved followed Rule One of gun safety: ALWAYS TREAT THE GODDAMNED GUN LIKE IT'S LOADED. No exceptions. If the firearm in question is not currently in pieces for storage/cleaning, then you don't look down the farking barrel, you don't pull the trigger unless you want to shoot something, and you sure as hell don't point the goddamned thing at something that you aren't willing to kill!

Hell, I've known this shiat since I was 6. The hunter's safety course I was in at age 9 drilled that damned phrase in every five minutes or so. Always treat a gun as though it's loaded, and you're far less likely to do something stupid like shoot your boyfriend.
 
2013-12-05 10:06:52 AM
Knarf

Not that tragic of a story, just farking stupid. Irresponsible gun owners are doing more damage to "gun rights" than any anti-gun activist.

/never point a gun at something you dont intend to destroy


Damn straight. This is the shiat they teach you DAY 1 of firearms safety courses.
 
2013-12-05 10:07:40 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: My nephews wonder why I don't allow them to point toy guns, Nerf guns, or squirt guns at me or each other. Bad habits are hard to break. We never had BB guns when I was a kid, because kids will treat them like toys. We could, however, go shooting real guns with adult supervision whenever we asked. At age 11 each of my brothers and sister and I received our first .22's. By that age we'd been well drilled in gun safety.


What about bent sticks? Or their finger? Dear god what if they got ahold of a Poptart!
 
2013-12-05 10:09:05 AM
This is just part of the war on Christmas.
 
2013-12-05 10:09:43 AM
"no true Gun Owner"
 
2013-12-05 10:10:55 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: But overall, having a gun in the house makes you safer. Sure, once in a while there are tragic unavoidable accidents like these, but nothing's perfect.


Yeah, because this happens to a majority of gun owners.
 
2013-12-05 10:11:01 AM

skozlaw: It's never a tragedy when stupid people get shot doing stupid things. Tragedy in this sort of circumstance implies an accident and getting shot playing with guns like they're children's toys is never accidental.

Ever.

The girl should be charged with murder and everyone else involved as accomplices to it.

If gun owners want to be seen as responsible, let's help them out by starting to hold them responsible when they act like farging retards with the damn things. Maybe if we started locking idiots like these up for long periods of time the only ones left in any significant measure WOULD be the ones that are actually responsible after a time.


That's some weapons grade Derp there. Substitute "automobile" for gun and I believe you'll see why.
 
2013-12-05 10:11:31 AM

OnlyM3: No charges being filed?
WTF?

If she had driven her car down the street like an idiot and turned some 8th grader into a stain she'd be behind bars. Which one of her family members is a cop ?


Yet someone else gets arrested for stealing 5 cents worth of electricity.
 
2013-12-05 10:11:37 AM

ManateeGag: More retarded people with guns ruining to for responsible adults.


There isn't much objection to the idea that guns should be kept out of the hands of criminals, and there's only a moderate amount of objection to the idea that guns should be kept out of the hands of complete morons and the chronically irresponsible.

The problem is, there is near total and fervent resistance to the idea that any attempt whatsoever should be made to try to identify criminals and morons so that they may be prevented from owning a gun prior to someone getting killed.

I think the reason is they're afraid they won't pass the test themselves. Which probably means they, too, should not be allowed access to firearms.
=Smidge=
 
2013-12-05 10:12:09 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: My nephews wonder why I don't allow them to point toy guns, Nerf guns, or squirt guns at me or each other. Bad habits are hard to break. We never had BB guns when I was a kid, because kids will treat them like toys. We could, however, go shooting real guns with adult supervision whenever we asked. At age 11 each of my brothers and sister and I received our first .22's. By that age we'd been well drilled in gun safety.


That's a-tier level retarded.  I shot guns as a kid and also played with nerf guns and water guns and shot them at people.  I never confused the two, don't know anyone who did.
 
2013-12-05 10:13:02 AM
Guns don't kill people, isolated incidents kill people.
 
2013-12-05 10:13:49 AM
I don't know, I was taught not to dry fire a weapon (unless to test the firing mechanism). simply because the firing pin can over extend with no primer to hit.
/but, I'm sure I'm wrong.
 
2013-12-05 10:15:34 AM
After the friends were done playing with the gun, the gun's owner loaded the weapon and set it on a table.

Like putting Flipper in charge of the Titanic.
 
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