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(Washington Post)   You can tell most secret societies said to control the world are fake; the real ones just throw press conferences and explain exactly how they plan on subverting democracy to their agenda, adding, "Just try and stop us"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 157
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2013-12-05 08:30:54 AM  
They own the Republican party so what do they have to hide? Sure the tea baggers got a little out of control there but they'll fix that soon enough
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-12-05 08:45:42 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: They own the Republican party so what do they have to hide? Sure the tea baggers got a little out of control there but they'll fix that soon enough


Most countries are run by people like that.  I do think we are moving in that direction.
 
2013-12-05 09:01:45 AM  
Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

That's about all you need to know.  And any legislator who signed that should be removed from their job.
 
2013-12-05 09:15:33 AM  
My secret cabal isn't going so well.

deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-05 09:49:18 AM  
Interesting
 
2013-12-05 10:07:08 AM  
"Our business meetings are not open, and so the subcommittee meetings and task force meetings are not open," explained Bill Meierling, an ALEC spokesman..But Meierling wanted to assure me that there was nothing untoward about this arrangement, and that it was absolutely not true that the corporations that fund ALEC were behind closed doors, handing their legislative wish lists to the conservative state legislators who then pass them, rubber-stamp style, from coast to coast.

Despite the fact that they are, literally, behind closed doors. Nothing untowed, though! Legislators just looking for some advice, that's all! The corporations sponsoring these events would never, ever, think about trying to use their considerable wealth and influence to unduly influence policy makers. Heaven forfend!
 
2013-12-05 10:07:08 AM  

Diogenes: Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

That's about all you need to know.  And any legislator who signed that should be removed from their job.


Or hanged for treason.
 
2013-12-05 10:07:10 AM  
Thanks Obama
 
2013-12-05 10:10:53 AM  
I heard they were changing their rules so that they don't have to reveal their donors anymore.. they lost a lot of donors in recent months due to public pressure.  So, don't reveal who the donors are anymore.
 
2013-12-05 10:12:16 AM  
dasbut.com
 
2013-12-05 10:12:24 AM  
Well... maybe you will just have to pass those bills to see what is in them.

That works.
 
2013-12-05 10:18:51 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Diogenes: Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

That's about all you need to know.  And any legislator who signed that should be removed from their job.

Or hanged for treason.


THIS
 
2013-12-05 10:20:36 AM  

netcentric: Well... maybe you will just have to pass those bills to see what is in them.

That works.


Hey, you know how I know you know nothing despite being told many times that Nancy was referring to the bill that the Senate had yet to pass, the one that was going to be differet than the house passed one?

Keep potatoing, Potato-American.
 
2013-12-05 10:21:42 AM  
Enough lead always balances the scales.
 
2013-12-05 10:22:39 AM  
The mob had a presser?
 
2013-12-05 10:22:57 AM  
Challenge accepted.

/Warren 2016
 
2013-12-05 10:23:01 AM  
i think it's time that a million armed americans stormed wall street and kill anything that moves.

Burn the deadwood, make room for actual growth.
 
2013-12-05 10:23:13 AM  
In it, ALEC outlines six primary types of gay people: "the blatant"; "the secret lifer"; "the desperate"; "the adjusted"; "the bisexual"; and "the situational." Link

If there was such a thing as an "evil" entity, ALEC is it.
 
2013-12-05 10:25:11 AM  
imgs.xkcd.com

Had to....
 
2013-12-05 10:25:39 AM  
Emboldened by the Guardian report, liberal politicians held an anti-ALEC teleconference Wednesday afternoon. "ALEC," said Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), a former member of the group, "is nothing more than a corporate-funded and -dominated group that operates much like a dating service, only between legislators and special interests."

It's like speed dating for assholes.

*click*

"Hi, I'm Biff Fatwad.  I like poisoning the environment, high short-term profits over long term sustainability, suppressing civil dissent, and gaining unfair advantages while simultaneously singing the praises of 'competition.'"
 
2013-12-05 10:28:00 AM  
If ALEC is "totally legislator driven" as their spokesman claimed, then how did several states last year nearly simultaneously introduce and pass virtually the same bills on voter suppression, abortion restrictions, resource extraction, relaxation of concealed carry laws, tax breaks for the rich, anti-gay marriage, and anti-public education?

ALEC is scrambling to cover their tracks before the IRS comes down on them with a hammer.
 
MFK
2013-12-05 10:33:30 AM  

netcentric: Well... maybe you will just have to pass those bills to see what is in them.

That works.


YOU!

IN THE CORNER NOW!

You can come out when you stop being potato.
 
2013-12-05 10:34:47 AM  
The way organizations like ALEC get stopped is but doing to them what was done to ACORN and the ACLU, they need to be demonized so politicians that want to get elected don't associate with them.  But then there is the money...
 
2013-12-05 10:35:31 AM  

A Cave Geek: [imgs.xkcd.com image 381x324]

Had to....


Sorry about that, us Freemasons have a hard enough time figure out what to have for dinner at the next Stated Meeting when the Junior Warden isn't going to be available to cook.
 
2013-12-05 10:39:45 AM  
the Death Star will be funded one way or another!
 
2013-12-05 10:41:32 AM  

Diogenes: Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

That's about all you need to know.  And any legislator who signed that should be removed from their job.


Anyone have any idea exactly who is signing this oath?

It would seem to go against the oath of office wouldn't it?
 
2013-12-05 10:42:31 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: In it, ALEC outlines six primary types of gay people: "the blatant"; "the secret lifer"; "the desperate"; "the adjusted"; "the bisexual"; and "the situational." Link

If there was such a thing as an "evil" entity, ALEC is it.


That's really messed up.
 
2013-12-05 10:45:33 AM  

unexplained bacon: Diogenes: Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

That's about all you need to know.  And any legislator who signed that should be removed from their job.

Anyone have any idea exactly who is signing this oath?

It would seem to go against the oath of office wouldn't it?


That was my point.  But yes, I'd LOVE to see a list.  Generally speaking, the Norquist oath signers don't keep it a secret.  I'm sure this ALEC one is a bit trickier.
 
2013-12-05 10:49:08 AM  

Diogenes: It's like speed dating for assholes.

*click*

"Hi, I'm Biff Fatwad.  I like poisoning the environment, high short-term profits over long term sustainability, suppressing civil dissent, and gaining unfair advantages while simultaneously singing the praises of 'competition.'"


So close ... you could have used "Farkwad".  or "Lord Farkwad", even

upload.wikimedia.org

"I'm cutting everyone's SNAP and unemplyment benefits, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to take."
 
2013-12-05 10:51:35 AM  

KellyX: HMS_Blinkin: Diogenes: Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

That's about all you need to know.  And any legislator who signed that should be removed from their job.

Or hanged for treason.

THIS


unexplained bacon: Anyone have any idea exactly who is signing this oath?

It would seem to go against the oath of office wouldn't it?


I've been saying that all along regarding the Congressmen who signed Grover Norquist's seditious little tax pledge.

I hold that any legislator or executive at any level who has signed or taken any oath, pledge, covenant, etc. other than the Constitutional Oath or Affirmation of Office, must disclaim it entirely for the duration of his or her term(s), or be deemed ineligible to hold office. Any who, by word or deed while in office or running for office, demonstrates that s/he places any other oath, pledge, covenant, or whatever above the Constitution and its Oath or Affirmation of Office, has committed sedition at best, High Treason at worst.
 
2013-12-05 10:52:25 AM  
I've got to love the state legislators (South Dakota) who didn't want to pay for their own ALEC membership dues.   So, they decided that the state would pay ALEC dues for all the legislators.  Including the Democrats.  Brilliant.
 
2013-12-05 10:52:28 AM  
The environment and energy task force, led by private-sector American Electric Power. The tax and fiscal policy task force, headed by Altria. The international relations task force, run by Philip Morris. The commerce and insurance task force, by State Farm. And the health and human services task force, by Guarantee Trust Life Insurance.

Like an evil asshole, State Farm is there!

 
2013-12-05 10:52:37 AM  

Diogenes: Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

That's about all you need to know.  And any legislator who signed that should be removed from their job.


Agreed.

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution" - article 6.

As  unexplained baconpointed out earlier in this thread, the phrasing makes their oath to support the constitution of the United States subordinate to their oath to this organization.
 
2013-12-05 10:53:16 AM  
Remember, boys and girls:

lacoastpost.com

Not class warfare.

upload.wikimedia.org

Class warfare.
 
2013-12-05 10:55:27 AM  

COMALite J: KellyX: HMS_Blinkin: Diogenes: Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

That's about all you need to know.  And any legislator who signed that should be removed from their job.

Or hanged for treason.

THIS

unexplained bacon: Anyone have any idea exactly who is signing this oath?

It would seem to go against the oath of office wouldn't it?

I've been saying that all along regarding the Congressmen who signed Grover Norquist's seditious little tax pledge.

I hold that any legislator or executive at any level who has signed or taken any oath, pledge, covenant, etc. other than the Constitutional Oath or Affirmation of Office, must disclaim it entirely for the duration of his or her term(s), or be deemed ineligible to hold office. Any who, by word or deed while in office or running for office, demonstrates that s/he places any other oath, pledge, covenant, or whatever above the Constitution and its Oath or Affirmation of Office, has committed sedition at best, High Treason at worst.


Yeah, but, c'mon, campaign money! Treason? Sedition? No, those charges are applied to the little people who dare to contradict their masters.

Remember, Snowden's a traitor, while legislators who sign "loyalty oaths" and expressly subvert the roles of their offices are merely networkers.
 
2013-12-05 10:59:08 AM  

Bendal: If ALEC is "totally legislator driven" as their spokesman claimed, then how did several states last year nearly simultaneously introduce and pass virtually the same bills on voter suppression, abortion restrictions, resource extraction, relaxation of concealed carry laws, tax breaks for the rich, anti-gay marriage, and anti-public education?

ALEC is scrambling to cover their tracks before the IRS comes down on them with a hammer.


A Bill Moyers episode from September 2012 that's still worth watching.
 
2013-12-05 10:59:27 AM  

COMALite J: I hold that any legislator or executive at any level who has signed or taken any oath, pledge, covenant, etc. other than the Constitutional Oath or Affirmation of Office, must disclaim it entirely for the duration of his or her term(s), or be deemed ineligible to hold office.


If this were the rule, I can see Bill Clinton running for office again. "Sorry, Hillary, but I have to disclaim my marriage vows while I'm in office."
 
2013-12-05 11:00:41 AM  
Fortunately, ACORN will stop them.
 
2013-12-05 11:05:15 AM  
fc09.deviantart.net
 
2013-12-05 11:05:30 AM  
So THIS is the steering wheel on the GOP's back?

Geeze, let 'm drive!
BTW, the cliff is over there...
 
2013-12-05 11:05:46 AM  
ALEC has been a major force behind the conservative swing in state capitals, and it claims 82 alumni in the House - including Speaker John Boehner (Ohio) and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (Va.)

so true:
In June 1995, Boehner distributed campaign contributions from tobacco industry lobbyists on the House floor as House members were weighing how to vote on tobacco subsidies.[19] In a 1996 documentary by PBS called The People and the Power Game, Boehner said "They asked me to give out a half dozen checks quickly before we got to the end of the month and I complied. And I did it on the House floor."
 
2013-12-05 11:05:52 AM  
What's funny to me is that the 'societies' that the right whines so hard about, i.e. PETA, ACORN, Greenpeace, and other like that wouldn't hold any REAL power if the GOP didn't give it to them by focusing so much attention on them.  If the GOP just ignored these groups, they wouldn't have much in the way of any REAL power or influence.

ALEC, Norquist's group, and groups like that....they're different.  They do REAL damage, and cause REAL destruction.
 
2013-12-05 11:07:28 AM  

karnal: [fc09.deviantart.net image 850x555]


1989-2012.  Interesting choice of time period. No, not misleading at all.
 
2013-12-05 11:10:19 AM  
I personally think that any legislator who swears a loyalty oath to a political organization is guilty of abrogation of their oath to the Constitution and the American people.
 
2013-12-05 11:12:22 AM  
 
2013-12-05 11:12:27 AM  

Cyclometh: I personally think that any legislator who swears a loyalty oath to a political organization is guilty of abrogation of their oath to the Constitution and the American people.


Oath of office should trump any outside 'oath' to do certain things once elected.  Otherwise, there's the nasty little 'sedition' thing that could come back to bite you.
 
2013-12-05 11:13:24 AM  

Bucky Katt: karnal: [fc09.deviantart.net image 850x555]

1989-2012.  Interesting choice of time period. No, not misleading at all.


That is when that graph was printed - so you think they jumped ahead of any of them in the last year or so?
Stick your head back into the sand.
 
2013-12-05 11:13:50 AM  

Bucky Katt: karnal: [fc09.deviantart.net image 850x555]

1989-2012.  Interesting choice of time period. No, not misleading at all.


How dare he use the most recent completed year and several decades before that. What is he trying to pull?
 
2013-12-05 11:13:51 AM  

karnal: [fc09.deviantart.net image 850x555]


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2013-12-05 11:13:54 AM  
Among the ALEC documents obtained by the Guardian: a draft loyalty oath for legislators who serve as the group's state chairs, declaring that "I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

"I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

"I will act with care and loyalty and put the interests of the organization first."

"and put the interests of the organization first."

Please tell me that this very statement violates the oath every ALEC-owned politician makes when being sworn in to uphold the Constitution?
 
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