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(The Raw Story)   Pat Robertson says "God I love trannies...uh, no homo"   (rawstory.com) divider line 26
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2013-12-05 08:52:36 AM  
6 votes:

vpb: I think Pat Robertson has simply gone from crazy to senile.


Progress!
2013-12-05 10:50:34 AM  
4 votes:

zobear: Has Jesus not called him home yet?



Would you?
2013-12-05 10:32:32 AM  
3 votes:

Diogenes: Vaguely reminds me of a guy who used to hang out at our (now gone) local bar.  Guy was hoot, and fun to drink with.  But he was kind of a homophobe, and was amazed when I came out to him.  He wasn't negative, per se, just shocked.

Then, later in the evening he said, "You know, even though I don't get the gay thing, you know what's HOT?  Brazilian trannies!  I would totally do a Brazilian tranny!"

Now, shouldn't his own feelings and attractions alone serve as evidence to him that people come in all varieties?


That's a lot of trannies.
2013-12-05 10:19:32 AM  
3 votes:
And Jesus did say unto the masses, "is not a chick with a dick, merely a dude with tits? Let he who has never dabbled in transexual pornography cast the first stone."
2013-12-05 10:07:40 AM  
3 votes:
What is surprising is that this old dinosaur is still alive.
I bet the real dinosaurs were killed off by more liberal animals because they wouldn't shut up and die already.
2013-12-05 09:10:15 AM  
3 votes:

Diogenes: Vaguely reminds me of a guy who used to hang out at our (now gone) local bar.  Guy was hoot, and fun to drink with.  But he was kind of a homophobe, and was amazed when I came out to him.  He wasn't negative, per se, just shocked.

Then, later in the evening he said, "You know, even though I don't get the gay thing, you know what's HOT?  Brazilian trannies!  I would totally do a Brazilian tranny!"

Now, shouldn't his own feelings and attractions alone serve as evidence to him that people come in all varieties?


It's like Ron White says, we're all gay, it's just to what extent.
Not me man, not at all.
Yeah you are, and I can prove it.
Fine, prove it!
Do you like porn?
Yeah, I love porn, you know that.
Do you only watch scenes with two women?
No, I'll watch a man and a woman making love.
Do you like the man to have a small, half flaccid penis?
No, I like big hard throbbing co.... I did not know that about myself.
2013-12-05 08:50:49 AM  
3 votes:

Diogenes: So, God makes mistakes on His assembly line?


Like electronics, his quality assurance guy assured him a 10% failure rate is ok
2013-12-05 08:33:17 AM  
3 votes:
We're all so lucky to have a direct conduit to God here on earth to bounce our ideas off of. Quick, someone ask him if Jesus did in fact 'lose it' because he did not 'use it.'
2013-12-05 10:39:48 AM  
2 votes:

DarnoKonrad: What's a reversed homo?


An Omoh?
2013-12-05 10:15:15 AM  
2 votes:

Diogenes: So, God makes mistakes on His assembly line?


What is the Trinity but a sort of theological union? And you know what union guys are like.
2013-12-05 09:00:43 AM  
2 votes:
He's a chicks with dicks kind of dude, that's not surprising.
2013-12-05 08:34:18 AM  
2 votes:
So, God makes mistakes on His assembly line?
2013-12-05 08:27:14 AM  
2 votes:
So if a man plugs another man in the brown eye, its bad but if that same brown eye target changes his willy wacker into a catchers mitt then it's A OK?

I echo others, this is scary and confusing
2013-12-05 04:31:52 PM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: But as I said, his 'morality' on this particular point is so odd - it's grounded in "square pegs need square holes."


It seems to be grounded in 1 hole = bad.  2 holes = okay.  It just doesn't matter how you got the second hole.  It's part of his holey teachings.
2013-12-05 02:53:14 PM  
1 votes:
Until it stops.
I'm still outraged that some people are racist.


I'm against things that are bad. Someone should do something.
2013-12-05 11:55:25 AM  
1 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: Diogenes: So, God makes mistakes on His assembly line?

Like electronics, his quality assurance guy assured him a 10% failure rate is ok


So if there is a complication in tranny surgery, does s/he get the 'red ring of death'?
2013-12-05 11:44:56 AM  
1 votes:

brantgoose: Levitical law condemns a man who lies with another man as with a woman to death. Thus levitical law condemns anal intercourse with a man but not homosexual love, for example.


That's a mistranslation. It's supposed to be "thou shalt not lie  to another man as thou wouldst  to a woman." Basically, it outlaws pillow talk between bros.
2013-12-05 11:41:14 AM  
1 votes:
You can see the gears grinding in Pat Robinson's tiny brain if you look into his black, beady rodent eyes.

The mills of God grind slowly
Yet they grind exceedingly fin
Though with patience they stand waiting
With 'xactness grind they all.


One, the Bible does not condemn homosexuality, gay love or gay marriage. Levitical law condemns a man who lies with another man as with a woman to death. Thus levitical law condemns anal intercourse with a man but not homosexual love, for example. Prince Jonathan loved the future King David with a love surpassing the love of woman according to a later book of the Bible. That sounds a wee bit gay to me.

Two, if you can accept sex changes I can't imagine why you can't accept homosexuality unless it's all about maintaining your little cubby holes of thought. Trannies are OK because they choose to fit themselves into the male (dominant) - female (passive) cubby hole. But a man is a man is a man and even if you flip his penis inside out and make a pseudo-vagina, it's a dude, baby, genetically and possibly neurologically. Things get fuzzy, including logic. Get used to it, because it is only going to get worse.

I'm surprised that Pat Robinson has moved as far as he has on the subject. The people I call "Old Testament Christians" are very attached to any moral rule that is old and seemingly sanctioned and immutable. I also call these people "Pharisees". I reserve "Sadducees" for the older, more upper class religionists who may or may not believe in religion, God, Heaven, Hell, the Devil, Scriptures, the Soul, Immortality, etc., but believe that religion is good for women,  children and servants. The Sadducees did not believe in the immortality of the soul or resurrection, so they make a good touchstone for that type of Christianity.

Levitical law, however, originally applied only to the Levites. As a "higher critic" of the Bible, I don't believe it applied retroactively any more than Kosher laws did (although the authors and editors of the Pentateuch apparently applied their laws retroactively to more ancient times). Furthermore, very few Christians keep Kosher or obey all of the levetical laws. When Saint Peter had his dream about the net let down from Heaven full of non-kosher animals with the injunction "to take and eat", Kosher when out the window. It was bound to happen because Judaism was being adopted by a lot of people and inter-marriage between Jews and non-Jews was happening too frequently for the Orthodox to deal with all the new degrees of new believers.

In short, Christianity is Judaism-lite, without the Law.

In fact, Jesus and Paul emphasis that he who abides by the Law will be judged by God by the Law, while Christ's mission was to liberate believers from the strictness of the Law.

Conservatives accuse liberals and moderates of "picking and choosing", but the strictest fundamentalists pick and choose as much or more so, obeying the letter of the Law when it suits them, and junking it when it thwarts their purposes. As Saint Paul says, "All have sinned." All Christians have picked and chosen which levitical laws to follow. I see no reason to:

avoid non-kosher meat such as lobster, clams, pork, etc.
condemn men to death for having sex with other men
avoid mixing wool, silk and other fibres in your clothing
eating a ham and mayo sandwich
seething a calf in its Mother's milk (dairy and meat are scrupulously separated by Jews to avoid breaking this rule, even if the milk comes from a sheep and the meat comes from a cow)
not eating tomato sauces because it might conceal non-Kosher blood

and so forth.

All of these levitical rules are rules of purity and dammit, we don't need much of that kind of purity nowadays. We have medicine and science and hygiene instead.

Some of the laws in the Torah are wonderfully practical and wise, but that doesn't matter. The point is that they are purity laws which apply only to Jews and probably only to Levites and priests at that.

In my opinion, Jews are generally prone to going too far in the name of logic*, reason*, truth* and piety*. Really. No ketchup? What do they think Mr. Heinz gets up to in his factories?

To make a long argument, short, the biblical inerrantists and Old Testament Christians are, by the words of The Word and the Lord themselves, wrong. This is a heresy that is peculiarly strong among Protestants, especially those of American sects founded after 1600 but also some Old World Protestants. This heresy even taints the right wing of the Roman Catholic and other Churches, including the Eastern Orthodox, the Copts, the Assyrians, the Rastafarians and so forth.

Christians are Jews No More. Stop damning yourself to Hell by subjecting yourself to the Torah!

Stop damning yourself, stop damning yourself, why are you damning yourself! That would be a good caption for a cartoon about an atheist bully picking on True Believers.

If I were going to revert to Christianity, I would revert to my highly liberal Christian background, which wouldn't be much of an improvement over atheism in the eyes of certain types of Christian. My family has belonged to the United Church of Canada for over five generations (in the US, their sister church is the United Church of Christ, a little less modern and liberal than the Unitarians and the liberal Quakers perhaps, or perhaps a little more.

It's quite a stretch to say that God hates the sin and not the sinner and then go on to pour hatred and condemnation on the sinner for being something God presumably hates.

If you really hated the sin, you'd hate blowjobs, not homosexuals, anal sex, not farkers, abortion and not women.

Need I point out that the vast majority of Americans have absolutely no qualms about engaging in sodomy, masturbation, premarital or adulterous sex, etc., but still hate and distrust homosexuals while letting their own kind off the hook?

I'm not saying the problem with Christians is hypocrisy, but the problem with Christians (and all the rest of the world's religionists and unbelievers) is hypocrisy. Two weights and two measures.

So many clergymen and Republicans have been caught out you wonder if they are all closet cases or just supralapsarian Calvinists. Look it up.

But enough theology. It's very tempting for atheists to show off when ignorant Christians muck up their facts, let alone their opinions. Humility is an atheist virtue. You have to be able to say "I don't know" before you chuck out what you don't know or what can not be known.

 *Not that there's anything wrong with that.
2013-12-05 10:41:19 AM  
1 votes:
When this guy finally passes on, I'm betting that his gay, tranvestite lover shows will storm into the funeral wearing Judy Garland's costume of Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz.  And will promptly get into a slap fight with his other transvestite lover, who will be dressed like Marilyn Monroe. It'll be like when Charles Kuralt's secret family was revealed, but with more flare and feather bolos.
2013-12-05 10:29:47 AM  
1 votes:
IT'S A TRAP!

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2013-12-05 10:18:45 AM  
1 votes:
Wherever his studio is, please Obama, Controller of Weather Patterns and Fart, please send a hurricane or tornado to its location.
2013-12-05 10:14:17 AM  
1 votes:

nekom: That's actually somewhat surprising.


Illogic from the irrational? In my vagina?
2013-12-05 10:11:33 AM  
1 votes:

Barfmaker: Didn't he say that a while ago? Sounds familiar.


He has made roughly the same comment before.  It may also sound familiar because it's the exact same position the Iranian theocracy takes on the issue.  So that's nice.
2013-12-05 10:09:30 AM  
1 votes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran

Congratulations Pat, you've about as progressive as the Ayatollah
2013-12-05 09:38:33 AM  
1 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: Diogenes: So, God makes mistakes on His assembly line?

Like electronics, his quality assurance guy assured him a 10% failure rate is ok


This comment wins the internets
2013-12-05 09:07:03 AM  
1 votes:
Also, God's okay with you putting your brain in the body of a killer robot...just not a gay one.
 
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