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2013-12-05 10:32:31 AM
A good friend was a psychiatric researcher at Harvard, and he confirmed to me that in terms of relative levels of mental illness, the truth is in fact, reversed. Homos are relatively healthy especially given all the abuse they get, but trannies are by and large tortured troubled, souls.
 
2013-12-05 10:32:32 AM

Diogenes: Vaguely reminds me of a guy who used to hang out at our (now gone) local bar.  Guy was hoot, and fun to drink with.  But he was kind of a homophobe, and was amazed when I came out to him.  He wasn't negative, per se, just shocked.

Then, later in the evening he said, "You know, even though I don't get the gay thing, you know what's HOT?  Brazilian trannies!  I would totally do a Brazilian tranny!"

Now, shouldn't his own feelings and attractions alone serve as evidence to him that people come in all varieties?


That's a lot of trannies.
 
2013-12-05 10:33:05 AM
you're doing it ...weird
 
2013-12-05 10:33:39 AM

Kibbles: reillan: nekom: Diogenes: Vaguely reminds me of a guy who used to hang out at our (now gone) local bar.  Guy was hoot, and fun to drink with.  But he was kind of a homophobe, and was amazed when I came out to him.  He wasn't negative, per se, just shocked.

Then, later in the evening he said, "You know, even though I don't get the gay thing, you know what's HOT?  Brazilian trannies!  I would totally do a Brazilian tranny!"

Now, shouldn't his own feelings and attractions alone serve as evidence to him that people come in all varieties?

It's like Ron White says, we're all gay, it's just to what extent.
Not me man, not at all.
Yeah you are, and I can prove it.
Fine, prove it!
Do you like porn?
Yeah, I love porn, you know that.
Do you only watch scenes with two women?

Yes.  So... now what?

Does either othe muse a flaccid dildo?


I always think it's weird when they use objects.
 
2013-12-05 10:34:06 AM
So if there is a man trapped in a woman's body or a woman trapped in a man's body..... is Pat trying to say that God farked up while delivering a soul from the Guf into a new born? God makes mistakes!?
 
2013-12-05 10:35:23 AM
So make it stick Pat Robertson. Stop talking shiat. Push for laws that make homosexuality an illness.

That way all GLTB men and women can quit their jobs and careers, and receive full disability for life.
 
2013-12-05 10:36:26 AM

grokca: Diogenes: Vaguely reminds me of a guy who used to hang out at our (now gone) local bar.  Guy was hoot, and fun to drink with.  But he was kind of a homophobe, and was amazed when I came out to him.  He wasn't negative, per se, just shocked.

Then, later in the evening he said, "You know, even though I don't get the gay thing, you know what's HOT?  Brazilian trannies!  I would totally do a Brazilian tranny!"

Now, shouldn't his own feelings and attractions alone serve as evidence to him that people come in all varieties?

That's a lot of trannies.


Man that's funny
 
2013-12-05 10:37:47 AM

Macular Degenerate: A good friend was a psychiatric researcher at Harvard, and he confirmed to me that in terms of relative levels of mental illness, the truth is in fact, reversed. Homos are relatively healthy especially given all the abuse they get, but trannies are by and large tortured troubled, souls.


What's a reversed homo?
 
2013-12-05 10:39:48 AM

DarnoKonrad: What's a reversed homo?


An Omoh?
 
2013-12-05 10:40:03 AM

Nakedmanjoe: grokca: Diogenes: Vaguely reminds me of a guy who used to hang out at our (now gone) local bar.  Guy was hoot, and fun to drink with.  But he was kind of a homophobe, and was amazed when I came out to him.  He wasn't negative, per se, just shocked.

Then, later in the evening he said, "You know, even though I don't get the gay thing, you know what's HOT?  Brazilian trannies!  I would totally do a Brazilian tranny!"

Now, shouldn't his own feelings and attractions alone serve as evidence to him that people come in all varieties?

That's a lot of trannies.

Man that's funny


Took me a minute.
 
2013-12-05 10:40:21 AM
Tom Cruise?
 
2013-12-05 10:41:19 AM
When this guy finally passes on, I'm betting that his gay, tranvestite lover shows will storm into the funeral wearing Judy Garland's costume of Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz.  And will promptly get into a slap fight with his other transvestite lover, who will be dressed like Marilyn Monroe. It'll be like when Charles Kuralt's secret family was revealed, but with more flare and feather bolos.
 
2013-12-05 10:42:01 AM

Diogenes: doubled99: Newsflash-a large percentage of christians believe homosexuality is a sin. How many times can you be outraged by this?

Congratulations on missing the point.

We know his views on homosexuality.  It's the twisted 'logic' he employs to give transsexuals a moral exemption that's key here.


So you're jealous of the high standing that transsexuals have in his opinion?
 
2013-12-05 10:42:14 AM

Macular Degenerate: A good friend was a psychiatric researcher at Harvard, and he confirmed to me that in terms of relative levels of mental illness, the truth is in fact, reversed. Homos are relatively healthy especially given all the abuse they get, but trannies are by and large tortured troubled, souls.


I bet your good friend had to do some deep research to get those results. After after a week, it was like throwing a crowbar in an empty room.
 
2013-12-05 10:42:33 AM

Theaetetus: Actually, this is consistent with what some people have been saying for years - a lot of homophobia is really insecurity about gender roles, hence the "who wears the pants" or "which one's the girl" comments. If you change gender but still fit into that rigid dichotomy, then they're okay. However, if you're androgynous, or a non-stereotypically feminine woman or a non-stereotypically masculine man, then it outrages them. After all, then how do they know who to oppress?


Pretty much this.  It would also explain why homophobes tend to make an exception for lesbians.  When you have two women together, you still have one woman in the "submissive" role, and because the other woman isn't dominating a man, the men's dominant role isn't under threat.  But when you have two men together, then (in their rigid dom/sub mindset) one of them must therefore occupy the "submissive" role, and they feel highly threatened by the idea of men being submissive to anyone becoming normalized.

It's never been a fear of "teh ghey", it's been a fear of eventual societal acceptance of men being able to occupy a position of submission by default.

(hell, I've even had people explicitly argue to me that heterosexual relationships where the woman is dominant are okay so long as she does not publicly emasculate him and the general public can still look at the relationship and maintain the comfortable illusion that the man is in charge.  It's the fact that you can't even trick yourself into believing that a man is not in a submissive position in a gay relationship that makes it so threatening)
 
2013-12-05 10:42:45 AM

Godscrack: That way all GLTB men and women can quit their jobs and careers, and receive full disability for life.


I don't think they could afford those fabulous drapes while collecting disability.

/sterotype high-five!
 
2013-12-05 10:43:55 AM

George Babbitt: Diogenes: doubled99: Newsflash-a large percentage of christians believe homosexuality is a sin. How many times can you be outraged by this?

Congratulations on missing the point.

We know his views on homosexuality.  It's the twisted 'logic' he employs to give transsexuals a moral exemption that's key here.

So you're jealous of the high standing that transsexuals have in his opinion?


Don't be dense.
 
2013-12-05 10:46:15 AM

Diogenes: So, God makes mistakes on His assembly line?


That would explain the platypus.
 
2013-12-05 10:46:29 AM
Funny thing about that... the bible didn't mention homosexuality at all originally. It wasn't until the King James version that it did. Not only that, but it was one of several possible interpretations of passages made vague by the fact that they were written centuries earlier and used figures of speech for a lot of things. Tthe pre-Jesus parts had more to do with Jewish customs clashing with local customs - in other words, temple prostitutes were men in drag (as per the local custom). The Jewish laws prohibited that practice. There's also some other passages that aren't clear what is meant because the context is lost. Jewish Rabbis today are still debating what the hell those passages really meant.
Now when you get to post-Jesus, well it's just Paul and where appears to be talking about homosexuals he's actually talking about "effeminate men." And before anyone gets their panties in a twist, what HE meant by effeminate is NOT at all what we mean by it today. He was talking about men who shirk their civic duties. In other words, acting like women.
However, the bible DOES specifically mention men who castrate themselves - i.e. have a sex change. God doesn't like it when someone fixes his mistakes it seems.

TL;DR, Pat Robertson has non-biblical reasons for liking trannies, it seems.
 
2013-12-05 10:48:38 AM
Watching a conman and fraudster go senile isn't as entertaining as I expected it to be.
 
2013-12-05 10:49:34 AM
Has Jesus not called him home yet?
 
2013-12-05 10:49:47 AM
So if god makes a mistake and sticks somebody in the wrong gender body, it's cool if humans fix it for him.  Silly Yahweh, goofing up the naughty bits.
But if god makes a mistake and somebody likes the same naughty bits as what they have, it's not god's fault and somebody has to suffer for eternity.

Is that the idiocy de jour?
 
2013-12-05 10:50:34 AM

zobear: Has Jesus not called him home yet?



Would you?
 
2013-12-05 10:51:00 AM
Listening to what Pat Robertson has to say should be a mental illness.
 
2013-12-05 10:52:21 AM

Bucky Katt: Watching a conman and fraudster go senile isn't as entertaining as I expected it to be.


Right? It's like watching some retarded kid hating on gays or something.

/I got nothin'
 
2013-12-05 10:53:13 AM

Fast Moon: Theaetetus: Actually, this is consistent with what some people have been saying for years - a lot of homophobia is really insecurity about gender roles, hence the "who wears the pants" or "which one's the girl" comments. If you change gender but still fit into that rigid dichotomy, then they're okay. However, if you're androgynous, or a non-stereotypically feminine woman or a non-stereotypically masculine man, then it outrages them. After all, then how do they know who to oppress?

Pretty much this.  It would also explain why homophobes tend to make an exception for lesbians.  When you have two women together, you still have one woman in the "submissive" role, and because the other woman isn't dominating a man, the men's dominant role isn't under threat.  But when you have two men together, then (in their rigid dom/sub mindset) one of them must therefore occupy the "submissive" role, and they feel highly threatened by the idea of men being submissive to anyone becoming normalized.

It's never been a fear of "teh ghey", it's been a fear of eventual societal acceptance of men being able to occupy a position of submission by default.

(hell, I've even had people explicitly argue to me that heterosexual relationships where the woman is dominant are okay so long as she does not publicly emasculate him and the general public can still look at the relationship and maintain the comfortable illusion that the man is in charge.  It's the fact that you can't even trick yourself into believing that a man is not in a submissive position in a gay relationship that makes it so threatening)


Yeah. It's also the reason they're so opposed to gay marriage, and why they're not exactly wrong when they say it will destroy "traditional" marriage - i.e. one in which a man is the lord and master and his one or more wives are house slaves.
 
2013-12-05 10:53:49 AM
atheismresource.com
 
2013-12-05 10:57:34 AM
I wish people like Pat Robertson would stay the fark out of my bedroom. None of his goddamn business what two consenting adults are doing.
 
2013-12-05 10:57:42 AM
So he likes honey sausage big deal.
 
2013-12-05 11:00:01 AM

eyeq360: Bareefer Obonghit: We're all so lucky to have a direct conduit to God here on earth to bounce our ideas off of. Quick, someone ask him if Jesus did in fact 'lose it' because he did not 'use it.'

If you believe the New Testament, he did not have sex with anyone.
However, in the less-accepted texts that definitely did not make it into the New Testament, he was banging Mary Magdalene and was married to her(though some might argue that marriage equals "little to no sex"), and in the Heretical Gospel of Mark, he was involved in some kid of esoteric teachings that involved possible homosexual leanings.  After all, just because you go to a hidden spot to "teach" someone religion, and the other person is a young, attractive male who is wearing next to nothing (something faintly gauzy and see-through) for an entire night, it doesn't mean that Jesus is gay or anything.


Of course not. Would a gay man go traipsing around the desert in sandals and flowing robes with twelve other guys and no women?
The entire idea is utterly absurd.
 
2013-12-05 11:00:31 AM

Diogenes: Sybarite: Also, God's okay with you putting your brain in the body of a killer robot...just not a gay one.

The Bible is a sadly incomplete instruction manual.


Actually, if you think about it, it's not.  It was a book originally designed to appease the masses and convince them their government/occupiers were on the same page morally.  Over 2000 years later (well whatever the age is) it is still being used to control the masses.  I'd say that is a pretty impresive accomplishment for a bunch of sheep hearders and the soldiers and politicians who edited it.  Plus it is a living document, it's been updated by various powers that be over centuries to suit their needs and yet they can still convince the hordes of people who follow it that it is the "exact, infallible" word of God.
 
2013-12-05 11:01:52 AM
That ugly little leprechaun has never had sex.
 
2013-12-05 11:02:54 AM
Wow, the mental contortions needed to justify this are amazing. I'm surprised he hasn't sprained something in his brain.
 
2013-12-05 11:03:33 AM

Macular Degenerate: A good friend was a psychiatric researcher at Harvard, and he confirmed to me that in terms of relative levels of mental illness, the truth is in fact, reversed. Homos are relatively healthy especially given all the abuse they get, but trannies are by and large tortured troubled, souls.


That sounds about right.  The stigma of mental health in the U.S. leaves a lot of transsexuals afraid to seek help.  Many purchase hormones on the Internet to avoid the issue.  As a result many end up taking their own life due to untreated mental health issues.

My own GID diagnosis required several months of weekly visits with a shrink to address my bipolar and anxiety conditions.  If I didn't have health insurance that covered everything except sexual reassignment I might have done the same thing as other male to female trannies.
 
2013-12-05 11:04:40 AM

Kit Fister: IT'S A TRAP!

[t3.gstatic.com image 194x259]

I saw the picture and I was Man! that chick is really hot! then I thought Man!...

 
2013-12-05 11:04:49 AM

Diogenes: George Babbitt: Diogenes: doubled99: Newsflash-a large percentage of christians believe homosexuality is a sin. How many times can you be outraged by this?

Congratulations on missing the point.

We know his views on homosexuality.  It's the twisted 'logic' he employs to give transsexuals a moral exemption that's key here.

So you're jealous of the high standing that transsexuals have in his opinion?

Don't be dense.


That's just me trying to be funny. Didn't work this time either?
 
2013-12-05 11:06:01 AM
So what if homosexuality is a sin. Everything under the sun is a sin for christ sake. Just watching some hot girl pass by and thinking IN YOUR HEAD "damn thats some fine piece of ass". You just sinned like 5 times. But yea, big deal. Kill a dozen people by drilling a hole in their skull and raping it. Just say oh god plz forgive me and whooptie dooo no harm done. No more sin.

Sin... the whole concept is retarded
 
2013-12-05 11:12:23 AM
Isnt there a more politically correct term than tranny now? Fashion challenged?
 
2013-12-05 11:12:57 AM
TFA: "A few years ago the psychiatrists, the psychologists used to say that homosexuality was a mental illness," the TV preacher remarked. "Now, the Supreme Court has said that it is a protected right."

*face-desk*

Sure, it appeared in the DSM at one point. But the thing that laypeople forget--and reporters conveniently "forget"--about the DSM is Criterion B, which specifies duration and/or severity.

Example: depression. Criterion B* says that a diagnosis (let's be honest, these are "insurance billing codes") may be made for Major Depressive Disorder (MDD) if and only if it lasts for more than six months, it impacts multiple life-domains, and there is no substance abuse or bereavement.

Was, then, homosexuality classed as a "mental illness?" Well, sure, but if and only if it impacted the victim across multiple life-domains for a long time. Removing labels and such, I'd posit that anyone who is impacted by any disorder that persists over time and negatively impacts multiple life-domains needs to change something, as that does not a happy life make.

* DSM-IV TR. I haven't yet reviewed 5, though I'm sure I'll not like a lot of the new billing code entries. :(
 
2013-12-05 11:13:20 AM

gecizzle: Sin... the whole concept is retarded


I disagree.   There are acts that are evil and harmful.  Being gay just isn't one of them.
 
2013-12-05 11:14:06 AM
So if you are a dude, and are attracted to another dude, that's homo and that's a no-no.  But if you force the other dude to get a sex change for Jesus, then you are good with God once again?
 
2013-12-05 11:14:42 AM
I prefer my trannies wankered, so once again fark you, Pat Robertson.
 
2013-12-05 11:14:42 AM
I wonder what level of surgery is required to get a blessing from Uncle Pat.

I mean, if you're a man trapped in the body of a woman and you want to have sex with a woman, what is the threshold for determining whether you're having filthy homo lesbo sex or god-approved straight sex?

Top surgery ok and a strap on okay, or is bottom surgery necessary? And does it matter that considering the crude state of F-to-M genital technology, the surgery is basically a fleshy strap-on harness?

I just want to make sure no one offends The Lord.
 
2013-12-05 11:15:47 AM

niet3sche: Sure, it appeared in the DSM at one point


Pfffft.  So did Aspergers at one time.  Thank heavens we did away with THAT.
 
2013-12-05 11:16:24 AM

fireclown: gecizzle: Sin... the whole concept is retarded

I disagree.   There are acts that are evil and harmful.  Being gay just isn't one of them.


People who cut in line, for instance, should all go to a special hell where they wait ten years in a DMV line. No exceptions.
 
2013-12-05 11:21:11 AM

Inquisitive Inquisitor: Macular Degenerate: A good friend was a psychiatric researcher at Harvard, and he confirmed to me that in terms of relative levels of mental illness, the truth is in fact, reversed. Homos are relatively healthy especially given all the abuse they get, but trannies are by and large tortured troubled, souls.

That sounds about right.  The stigma of mental health in the U.S. leaves a lot of transsexuals afraid to seek help.  Many purchase hormones on the Internet to avoid the issue.  As a result many end up taking their own life due to untreated mental health issues.

My own GID diagnosis required several months of weekly visits with a shrink to address my bipolar and anxiety conditions.  If I didn't have health insurance that covered everything except sexual reassignment I might have done the same thing as other male to female trannies.


I'm really glad that GID was teased apart from other issues, and that your health insurance is covering most of this and allowing you to bring soma and psyche in-line.

/ Not being sarcastic; that's awesome.
// Mental health coverage, care, and perception in this country ... ugh.
 
2013-12-05 11:21:23 AM
I don't understand this point of view from fundamentalists, whether Iranian or derpy Christian. You're saying that God's not okay with people subverting his plans of men and women pairing up for reproduction, but sometimes he messes up and puts someone in the wrong body and he's cool with them fixing that, even though they cannot reproduce after they do? I think this really reveals the true roots of their anti-gay crap and it's a fear of non-traditional gender roles. It's abominable to them to have someone who looks like a man abasing another man by farking him, or abasing himself by being farked. If one partner looks and acts like they think a woman should look and act, though, it's all good.
 
2013-12-05 11:21:41 AM
Yeah. It's also the reason they're so opposed to gay marriage, and why they're not exactly wrong when they say it will destroy "traditional" marriage - i.e. one in which a man is the lord and master and his one or more wives are house slaves.


I bet a thousand bucks you are single.
 
2013-12-05 11:27:54 AM
Whats the over under on this miserable horseco** sucker being dead in the next year? He is getting pretty old, yeah?
 
2013-12-05 11:28:08 AM

George Babbitt: Diogenes: George Babbitt: Diogenes: doubled99: Newsflash-a large percentage of christians believe homosexuality is a sin. How many times can you be outraged by this?

Congratulations on missing the point.

We know his views on homosexuality.  It's the twisted 'logic' he employs to give transsexuals a moral exemption that's key here.

So you're jealous of the high standing that transsexuals have in his opinion?

Don't be dense.

That's just me trying to be funny. Didn't work this time either?


LOL.  Fair enough.  Came off a tad trolly.  It's hard to discern this stuff in text sometimes.

But as I said, his 'morality' on this particular point is so odd - it's grounded in "square pegs need square holes."
 
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