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(AlterNet)   Libtarded article bashes Libertardian economic models fails to mention the real problem with their models: information asymmetry   ( alternet.org) divider line
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2013-12-04 04:03:02 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Subby, I'd point to the fact that it contradicts more than a century of empirical data as a bigger problem.
/But sure, information asymmetry as a glaring flaw is a big enough hook to hang your hat on.


Information asymmetry is what's wrong with capitalism in general. The invisible hand theory only works if everyone is equally wise.
 
2013-12-04 04:17:24 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: demaL-demaL-yeH: Subby, I'd point to the fact that it contradicts more than a century of empirical data as a bigger problem.
/But sure, information asymmetry as a glaring flaw is a big enough hook to hang your hat on.

Information asymmetry is what's wrong with capitalism in general. The invisible hand theory only works if everyone is equally wise.


Yeah, because a govt has no problems with information asymmetry. They know exactly what you want, how much of it you want, and what you are willing to give up for it. Always and Forever.

The invisible hand theory ONLY works because nobody knows everything.
 
2013-12-04 04:18:08 PM  
The aphorism that libertarians are Republicans with bongs is just about spot-on.

"Just about" because some forgot where they left their bong.

But the article has a something of a point - libertarianism is not based on any type of empirical evidence, while atheism is the exact opposite - so why are so many libertarians atheists?

What he doesn't grasp is that not all atheists arrive at that view after years and years of spiritual searching, struggle and rational evaluation.   Many are simply grabbing a ready-made value system they find empowering because it pisses off a bunch of people - you know, like libertarianism.
 
2013-12-04 05:20:53 PM  

meat0918: DarnoKonrad: meat0918: Um.

The confluence of religion, government, and the military industrial complex are the real problem.

Focusing on a miniscule % of a % is just mindless internet dickwaving.


Meaning what exactly?  It seems obvious to me, that whoever has buckets of money will corrupt the democratic process.  1% is a goofy kind of shorthand when it's really more like the 0.1% that have inordinate amounts of power and influence.

That .1% has massive influence.

The miniscule % of a % that are atheist libertarians have no power, unless the Kochs are secret atheists, which I doubt, but it is possible.


I wouldn't call them libertarians either.

Witty_Retort: phaseolus: Tfa gives just two examples: Penn Jillette, and Michael Shermer.

Now I'll happily point and laugh at the kind of person who got this author's panties in a bunch. I kinda see them as just ideologues who take the labels that describe them a little too seriously, treating 'atheist' or 'libertarian' (or any other label for that matter) as something to *be*, not just 'what they sound like'.

But -- in the grand scheme of things, how important and influential are those two, anyway? One's a fat bellowing C-list entertainer, and the other's "yeah, I think I heard that guy's name, once" at best. And maybe I haven't been paying close attention but I'm having trouble thinking of more names to add to the list of libertarian atheist opinion leaders.

You've only heard Penn Jillette's name once?

/add Bill Maher to the list


Are you calling Bill Maher a libertarian? Yeah, a few years ago he called himself that, but come on, he's clearly not.
 
2013-12-04 05:21:58 PM  
TFA is the very definition of fact-free arguments.
 
2013-12-04 05:23:11 PM  

iawai: Because People in power are Stupid: demaL-demaL-yeH: Subby, I'd point to the fact that it contradicts more than a century of empirical data as a bigger problem.
/But sure, information asymmetry as a glaring flaw is a big enough hook to hang your hat on.

Information asymmetry is what's wrong with capitalism in general. The invisible hand theory only works if everyone is equally wise.

Yeah, because a govt has no problems with information asymmetry. They know exactly what you want, how much of it you want, and what you are willing to give up for it. Always and Forever.

The invisible hand theory ONLY works because nobody knows everything.


Holy shiat! A non-retarded post!! Is fark making a comeback?
 
2013-12-04 05:42:27 PM  

BMulligan: LordZorch: GoodDoctorB: [www.politifake.org image 640x452]

You need to stop being stupid on purpose

A rare photograph of a libertarian standing next to an anarchist:

[futuretom.files.wordpress.com image 490x369]


That is one of the best jabs at libertarians I've seen.

/liberal-libertarian
//but I can laugh at myself
///Have to to read fark politics tab
 
2013-12-04 05:44:24 PM  

slayer199: For the last farking time, Ron Paul is NOT a libertarian.  He's a libertarian-leaning Republican...but still a Republican.


I think the only libertarian thing I've heard from Ron is "audit the fed".  I can't even consider him a republican he is so far off the misogynist, racist deep end.
 
2013-12-04 05:58:09 PM  

trippdogg: But the article has a something of a point - libertarianism is not based on any type of empirical evidence, while atheism is the exact opposite - so why are so many libertarians atheists?


Because
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2013-12-04 06:31:19 PM  

slayer199: For the last farking time, Ron Paul is NOT a libertarian.  He's a libertarian-leaning Republican...but still a Republican.


Christ, I need new glasses. I thought that said "libertarian-EATING Republican"...
 
2013-12-04 06:42:50 PM  
GoodDoctorB

blah blah blah federation blah blah etc, this thread is dildos.
 
2013-12-04 08:12:04 PM  
Is Subby a retard? Does he come from a long line of retards? Are all his children RETARDS? Are all the FARK staff retards? If he doesn't like being called a retard perhaps the farking idiot might want to stop adding TARD to words. It's not the farking 1950's anymore. What a farking goof!
 
2013-12-04 08:22:15 PM  
It's been a while since Alternet got greenlit. Did they not give kickbacks to the admin?
 
2013-12-04 08:34:04 PM  

super_grass: It's been a while since Alternet got greenlit. Did they not give kickbacks to the admin?


Alternet has quit money altogether, and operates on a complex system of barter. And do you have any idea how hard it is to barter for Maker's Mark?
 
2013-12-04 08:54:04 PM  

iawai: Because People in power are Stupid: demaL-demaL-yeH: Subby, I'd point to the fact that it contradicts more than a century of empirical data as a bigger problem.
/But sure, information asymmetry as a glaring flaw is a big enough hook to hang your hat on.

Information asymmetry is what's wrong with capitalism in general. The invisible hand theory only works if everyone is equally wise.

Yeah, because a govt has no problems with information asymmetry. They know exactly what you want, how much of it you want, and what you are willing to give up for it. Always and Forever.

The invisible hand theory ONLY works because nobody knows everything.


Typical Rightwing freeper response. Notice in my original statement I said nothing of 'da gubbamint'. Which makes your retarded pandering nothing more than a StrawMan argument.
 
2013-12-04 08:55:58 PM  

jigger: The invisible hand theory ONLY works because nobody knows everything.


If it works like you say it does, then businesses wouldn't spend a dime on advertising because everyone would already know about the superior products and what they are getting for their money.
 
2013-12-04 10:36:29 PM  

jigger: Are you calling Bill Maher a libertarian? Yeah, a few years ago he called himself that, but come on, he's clearly not.


Eh. That was what I was going off of, something he said on his ABC show. I don't get HBO.
He's pro-pot, so he's on that chart.

lh6.ggpht.com
 
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