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(Salon)   After almost 50 votes to do so and even shutting down the government to try to accomplish it, the GOP decides they never really WANTED to repeal Obamacare anyway   (salon.com ) divider line 40
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2013-12-04 11:56:29 AM  
Spinless quitters!  They don't have TRUE CONSERVATIVE ideals is they quit.  It is an Chamberlain like appeasement that will only encourage Adolph 0bamma
 
2013-12-04 11:56:55 AM  
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2013-12-04 11:57:30 AM  
All the good parts were republican ideas and furthermore comma
 
2013-12-04 11:58:08 AM  
Well, of course.

1. They ran out of time.  Obamacare is here.
2. The website issues (and other things, like the "keep your current plan" soundbite) are doing their work for them right now.

Expect to see the "rollback" machine start up again once the website is no longer an issue.
 
2013-12-04 11:58:20 AM  
This is prong 4 of the republican strategy fork.  Declare retroactively that you were behind anything as soon as it starts working(but not a moment before).

The other 3 are:
1.  Repeat the lie.  Repeat the lie again, just in case.
2.  Everything bad that happens is the fault of those it happens to.  People like the just world hypothesis, let them believe it.
3.  Always blame an enemy.  Preferably in a way that's interchangeable with a different enemy.
 
2013-12-04 11:59:16 AM  
The grand march has begun. Their next presidential candidate won't attack it, and will even take credit for "improving" it.
 
2013-12-04 11:59:29 AM  
Repeal was never the goal. The goal was planting a seed in the American people, a seed of true descent born from the spirit of patriotic. And soon, very soon, when the true consequences of Obamacare are never the same, and people witness the death panelling of their loved ones, the Republicans will reap the harvest of those seeds: potato.
 
2013-12-04 11:59:32 AM  
Is there anyone that didn't predict the GOP would totally give up on this?
 
2013-12-04 12:00:35 PM  
Of course they have. As it starts to work, and more people start to like it, they'll claim it was their idea the whole time. See also: They'll stop calling it Obamacare and go back to using ACA
 
2013-12-04 12:00:59 PM  
"And if Healthcare.gov holds up today and through the end of the year, it'll be dead."

And the reason the GOP fought so bitterly to end it was because they knew it was bad for their re-election efforts.

Thank you, GOP for your fiscally-responsible governmentation.
 
2013-12-04 12:02:13 PM  

Dimensio: Repeal was never the goal. The goal was planting a seed in the American people, a seed of true descent born from the spirit of patriotic. And soon, very soon, when the true consequences of Obamacare are never the same, and people witness the death panelling of their loved ones, the Republicans will reap the harvest of those seeds: potato.


+1 for you
 
2013-12-04 12:02:58 PM  

Dimensio: Repeal was never the goal. The goal was planting a seed in the American people, a seed of true descent born from the spirit of patriotic. And soon, very soon, when the true consequences of Obamacare are never the same, and people witness the death panelling of their loved ones, the Republicans will reap the harvest of those seeds: potato.


Doesn't the dog of loyalty have to piss on the tree of Liberty first, or some shiat?
 
2013-12-04 12:04:34 PM  

grumpfuff: Of course they have. As it starts to work, and more people start to like it, they'll claim it was their idea the whole time. See also: They'll stop calling it Obamacare and go back to using ACA



This is what cracks me up. They never thought their cunning plan through if it actually improves the lives of Americans.

Dimensio: potatoe.


FTFY
 
2013-12-04 12:06:27 PM  
Indeed, repeal is already an afterthought - a pose - in the Republican leadership's actual playbook for attacking Obamacare in the weeks ahead. The manual boasts of past efforts to repeal or gut the law, but outlines a forward-looking strategy of politicking it at the margin.

So it's a post-game press conference where the coach biatches about the officiating instead of the score?
 
2013-12-04 12:07:38 PM  
So the GOP are going to try Obamacare to see if they like it sorta like the story Green Eggs and Ham.
 
2013-12-04 12:09:03 PM  
So they shut down the gummint and pissed away $24 billion for no reason at all?
 
2013-12-04 12:09:54 PM  
Never interfere with an enemy while he's in the process of destroying himself
 
2013-12-04 12:11:47 PM  

Dimensio: Repeal was never the goal. The goal was planting a seed in the American people, a seed of true descent born from the spirit of patriotic. And soon, very soon, when the true consequences of Obamacare are never the same, and people witness the death panelling of their loved ones, the Republicans will reap the harvest of those seeds: potato.


It's as if he's reading it right off Sarah's palm.
 
2013-12-04 12:12:29 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Indeed, repeal is already an afterthought - a pose - in the Republican leadership's actual playbook for attacking Obamacare in the weeks ahead. The manual boasts of past efforts to repeal or gut the law, but outlines a forward-looking strategy of politicking it at the margin.

So it's a post-game press conference where the coach biatches about the officiating instead of the score?


But without the $50,000 fine from the commisioner
 
2013-12-04 12:13:45 PM  

grumpfuff: Of course they have. As it starts to work, and more people start to like it, they'll claim it was their idea the whole time. See also: They'll stop calling it Obamacare and go back to using ACA


I've noticed that The Hill has started calling it "O-Care".  Is that a transition step?
 
2013-12-04 12:14:03 PM  
It is because...

The GOP is playing the other side of the same game (with the Democrats) against the American people.

It's like this:
Hey Dem, you say you want this,
I'll say we don't want this,
and we'll argue about it while we pass it off on the people.


Our Congress has quit protecting our Constitution and Bill of Rights for the sake of lining their pockets.
 
2013-12-04 12:16:27 PM  

lilbjorn: So they shut down the gummint and pissed away $24 billion for no reason at all?



Nonsense, 24 bill is perfectly acceptable to piss away if it means more PAC money in the re-election coffers.
 
2013-12-04 12:18:33 PM  

lilbjorn: So they shut down the gummint and pissed away $24 billion for no reason at all?


Don't worry. I've been assured for 30 years that it's all gonna trickle down.

Any day now.
 
2013-12-04 12:19:22 PM  

Dimensio: Repeal was never the goal. The goal was planting a seed in the American people, a seed of true descent born from the spirit of patriotic. And soon, very soon, when the true consequences of Obamacare are never the same, and people witness the death panelling of their loved ones, the Republicans will reap the harvest of those seeds: potato.


I'd Applaud you for your satire but I have a sneaking suspicion that was simply copy and pasted from a leaked Tea Party Express strategy (Strateegery) memo
 
2013-12-04 12:22:10 PM  

lilbjorn: So they shut down the gummint and pissed away $24 billion for no reason at all?


Honestly are you even the least bit surprised anymore?
 
2013-12-04 12:26:35 PM  
This is what you get when you elect "small government" conservatives to public office - they get nothing done, then they give up.
 
2013-12-04 12:34:46 PM  

Magorn: Dimensio: Repeal was never the goal. The goal was planting a seed in the American people, a seed of true descent born from the spirit of patriotic. And soon, very soon, when the true consequences of Obamacare are never the same, and people witness the death panelling of their loved ones, the Republicans will reap the harvest of those seeds: potato.

I'd Applaud you for your satire but I have a sneaking suspicion that was simply copy and pasted from a leaked Tea Party Express strategy (Strateegery) memo


Tea party members include jessi slaughter references in their manifestos?
 
2013-12-04 12:35:18 PM  
Sour grapes ferment into bitter whine.
 
2013-12-04 12:42:04 PM  
Now that you guys have seen all this... remember that *all* of this is the result of an incredibly inexperienced set of members in both Houses of Congress, and at that, most of the freshmen got there on Populist messaging.  Populism is great for politicians if they can sustain it, but horrible for politics, because populism is antithetical to compromise and in-depth policy.  Decent politicians, after usually winning their seat on a more populist-based message, have to eventually get down to work and make something happen... Populism as an ideology is not sustainable because populist outrage is not sustainable in the population.  You get fatigue and, since Populists have simple "fixes" to complex problems that of course don't work, eventual dejection and buyer's remorse.

Now, remember that next time you want to introduce term limits.  Do you really want Congresses like this, with members who basically *never* have a national record to run on.  That means charisma and populism become even *more* dominant.  Not sure I want that.
 
2013-12-04 12:50:59 PM  

Dimensio: Repeal was never the goal. The goal was planting a seed in the American people, a seed of true descent born from the spirit of patriotic. And soon, very soon, when the true consequences of Obamacare are never the same, and people witness the death panelling of their loved ones, the Republicans will reap the harvest of those seeds: potato.


This gets a Smart and Funny.
 
2013-12-04 01:02:53 PM  
The DERP is cranked up to 111 on Yahoo today......a little sample:
He has done more than any other President before him.
He has an impressive list of accomplishments:
First President to write a law then break it him self.
First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
First President to have a social security number belonging to another man, from a state he has never lived in.
First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
First President to violate the War Powers Act.
First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party. First President to spend a trillion dollars on "shovel-ready" jobs when there was no such thing as "shovel-ready" jobs.* * * *
First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. including those with criminal convictions.
First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
First President to terminate America's ability to put a man in space.
First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.
First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.
First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
First President to fire an inspector general of AmeriCorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to date.
First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
First President to go on multiple "global apology tours" and concurrent "insult our friends" tours.
First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayers.
First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.* * * *
First President to fly in a personal trainer from Chicago at least once a week at taxpayer expense.* * * * First President to repeat the Holy Quran & tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they "volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences." Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.* * * * First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs. Arizona).
How is Obama's "Hope and Change" working out for you?"
I believe Obama should be arrested and impeached for only a few of his "Great Accomplishments."
For being best President in many of his Democratic followers eyes...
I feel this Great Nation in being misled in an immorally direction away from what it was originally founded on.
I pray for the safety and promising future for our children.
I pray our children do not become as greedy, ungrateful, anti-christian and un-patriotic as I see our current leaders leading their lives.
I commend you for reading all of this. And, I hope it has empowered you with knowledge and opened your eyes more. Thank you
 
2013-12-04 01:09:37 PM  

Magorn: Dimensio: Repeal was never the goal. The goal was planting a seed in the American people, a seed of true descent born from the spirit of patriotic. And soon, very soon, when the true consequences of Obamacare are never the same, and people witness the death panelling of their loved ones, the Republicans will reap the harvest of those seeds: potato.

I'd Applaud you for your satire but I have a sneaking suspicion that was simply copy and pasted from a leaked Tea Party Express strategy (Strateegery) memo


Such memos are highly infromative, so long as you study them out.
 
2013-12-04 01:21:58 PM  

TopNotched: The DERP is cranked up to 111 on Yahoo today......a little sample:
He has done more than any other President before him.
He has an impressive list of accomplishments:

[...]

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.


Are you able to locate the follow-up post from the same individual wherein he referenced the financial records that support the claim that the President applied for aid as a foreign student?


[...]

First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.


This statement is actually true. The President's administration was held in contempt in a case related to drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Because the contempt citation was later thrown out on appeal, the claim is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.


[...]

First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.


I was unfamiliar with this claim, so I researched it. Snopes has declared it to be "false". Because Snopes is a known enforcer for the liberal Mainstream MSM Media, their refutation of the claim must be irrefutable proof that the claim is true. Quad Erat Derp-potato.
 
2013-12-04 01:31:44 PM  

Stoker: It is because...

The GOP is playing the other side of the same game (with the Democrats) against the American people.

It's like this:
Hey Dem, you say you want this,
I'll say we don't want this,
and we'll argue about it while we pass it off on the people.

Our Congress has quit protecting our Constitution and Bill of Rights for the sake of lining their pockets.


wisdems.org
 
2013-12-04 02:32:20 PM  
My friends in the states that have come on board for the ACA are reporting financial relief, new insurance policies, and a general feeling of well-being. My friends in Texas are losing their insurance, getting it back, and getting a huge run-around.

Whose fault is that?
 
2013-12-04 03:43:41 PM  
Does that mean we can now kick the stupid Teabag politicians that ran on "repealing Obamacare" and nothing else (I'm looking at you, Renee Ellmers)?

/has to be one of the most useless Representatives in Congress right now
//thankfully not my Rep though
 
2013-12-04 03:51:40 PM  

wxboy: Well, of course.

1. They ran out of time.  Obamacare is here.
2. The website issues (and other things, like the "keep your current plan" soundbite) are doing their work for them right now.

Expect to see the "rollback" machine start up again once the website is no longer an issue.


They also have to lay off it for a while before they start claiming credit for it.
 
2013-12-04 04:16:00 PM  
Some Yahoo: I feel this Great Nation in being misled in an immorally direction away from what it was originally founded on.

Me too man. We ARE headed in an immorally direction away from landed gentry and a slave-based economy. The horror.
 
2013-12-04 04:16:48 PM  

Stoker: Our Congress has quit protecting our Constitution and Bill of Rights for the sake of lining their pockets.


Hmmm, it sounds like neither side has the best interests of the American public in mind. In fact, they're each, in their own way, bad. Would you have a strategy to help me choose which party to vote for?
 
2013-12-05 05:50:42 PM  

theorellior: Stoker: Our Congress has quit protecting our Constitution and Bill of Rights for the sake of lining their pockets.

Hmmm, it sounds like neither side has the best interests of the American public in mind. In fact, they're each, in their own way, bad. Would you have a strategy to help me choose which party to vote for?

-=-
Libertarian. Strategy? Don't do the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome?
 
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