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2013-12-04 11:22:18 AM  
6 votes:
Man, if only Romney had campaigned on repealing the ACA, then he would have won.
2013-12-04 12:58:42 PM  
5 votes:

nmrsnr: Just to note, website aside, things the ACA has already done that people will not willingly let go of:

1. No more preexisting condition exclusion
2. Kids can stay on until age 26
3. Closed Medicare "donut hole"
4. 85-15 rule for insurance providers, some people have actually gotten checks from their insurer
5. No lifetime caps on insurance


For the "repeal" people, all of this will go away, and if they say they want to keep it, how do you pay for it without the individual mandate?


On the other hand, there is the Republican plan to reform healthcare:

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Both require thoughtful consideration before you choose which one has more merit.
2013-12-04 01:09:54 PM  
2 votes:
"The only 'fix' is full repeal followed by  step-by-step, patient-centered reforms that drive down costs and that Americans actually want."

Let me fix that:

"The only 'fix' is full repeal followed by direct handouts to my big business medical campaign contributors"
2013-12-04 12:51:33 PM  
2 votes:
Well GOP, it's been nice knowing you. Ever since Bush, you just haven't been the same. If you had a shred of intelligence whatsoever, you'd just shut up about the ACA and let people see for their selves. If it's really as bad ad you say, you'd let it do what it's going to do, and then let people would be flock to your banner by the millions, loudly pointing out how you tried to avert this disaster multiple times, and your political success would be assured. The fact that you aren't shutting up tells me that you fear the results, and what they stand to do to your already tenuous grasp to political power. I used to be proud to tell people I was a Republican voter. Then, I became educated and knowledgeable about how we judge others according to our own motives and methods. I also noticed that the GOP was doing nothing for anybody but the ultra-rich (who already don't really need any help.) Like it or not, your claim to be "the lesser of two evils" has been soundly torn from your liver-spotted grasp.

Your children will be delicious.
2013-12-04 12:00:41 PM  
2 votes:
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Not conservative enough for the GOP
2013-12-04 04:36:28 PM  
1 votes:

meat0918: Try taking 12-15 credit hours and working an additional 30-40 hrs a week to help pay for said college. It sucks.


Sounds like you should've been born rich. Why didn't you do that? Just one, simple little thing that would've made your upbringing so much better, but you couldn't be bothered, could you? Lazy bastard.
2013-12-04 02:38:25 PM  
1 votes:

Trid_Kicker: And this just in: Vermont.

The result will be healthcare that's "a right and not a privilege," Gov. Peter Shumlin said.



A right? Even for the poors? We don't cotton to that around here, boy.
2013-12-04 02:26:35 PM  
1 votes:

MyRandomName: Liberals have relied on voter ignorance of the bill.


How many watts is in that projector?
2013-12-04 02:10:02 PM  
1 votes:

cwheelie: "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian."
  - Henry Ford


You're quoting Henry Ford for advice on government healthcare?  He died in 1947 for chrissakes.  And wasn't a doctor.  Or a statesman.  Or any kind of government employee.  And wouldn't know a PET scan from a CAT scan.  And his cars didn't even have variable valve timing, EGR, or antilock brakes.

And he's not on Angie's List either.
2013-12-04 01:55:34 PM  
1 votes:

meat0918: cwheelie: "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian."
  - Henry Ford

You really want the IRS (the federal equivalent of the DMV) administering your healthcare plan?

You mean a government

republican party that considered the Native Americansmiddle/ lower class a nuisance at best and a vicious enemy at worst might not have had their best interests in mind?

Whodathunkit?

Updated that for you.
2013-12-04 01:53:25 PM  
1 votes:

Carthax: blugenes: The ACA was not meant to be permanent legislation in my opinion, but a transition to a single-payor system either under or very similar to HR 676.  The ACA is a nightmare for providers and patients, the "coverage" it gives to many people is more costly for sometimes fewer services and a lot of providers are now considering leaving the medical field or retiring early because of it.  The new laws that are coming into place on 01 January will make it hard to reverse the damage already done, if it is not repealed by 01 January 2015 I am not sure what could be done to prevent many millions more people from losing their coverage on that date.

I used to work in a medical center with over 80 doctors.  We were in the process of upgrading all the practices to an electronic medical records system, and all the doctors over 40 were biatching and moaning about how hard it was to use, and that they were all going to retire at the end of the year.

Yeah, they never did.   The same thing is happening here.  "Change is scary! I don't like change! I'm quitting the medical profession!"  ...until they realize how little retirement pays, then they're all, "Psych!"


It's never "Psych!"

It's... "Meh, I'll give it one more year. What's more year going to hurt?", then it's the year after that... and the year after that.

/works in the medical field
2013-12-04 01:50:26 PM  
1 votes:

cwheelie: "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian."
  - Henry Ford

You really want the IRS (the federal equivalent of the DMV) administering your healthcare plan?


Um.  The USA already has a huge government agency administering a huge healthcare plan.

And interestingly, it is
preferred over private insurance.No, we don't want the "IRS" or the "DMV" administering our healthcare, but perhaps a government agency designed to, well, administer healthcare might fit the bill.
2013-12-04 01:48:38 PM  
1 votes:

cwheelie: "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian."
  - Henry Ford


Really? You quote the ramblings of an alcoholic, crack smoking Canadian to bolster your argument?
2013-12-04 01:46:30 PM  
1 votes:

Kangaroo_Ralph: nmrsnr: This very much depends on what you think Obama meant by "works" if, as you seem to suggest, "works" means "gets implemented, regardless of how bad it is, or how widely reviled it is" yes, the statement is not a particularly good one. If however, you take "works" to mean "provide every American affordable health coverage, regardless of what changes need to be made" then it seems exactly like what politicians should do, work ceaselessly to make our lives better.

Ah, but it's "this law works".  The law itself is too flawed to work as written.


It's a good thing the GOP worked tirelessly to come up with a bi-partisan solution to fix the various flaws in the ACA then instead of purposefully sabotaging the ACA and running on a platform of "No."

I mean that's what they did, right? Offer plausible, reality-based solutions and engaged in meaningful debate to make the legislation itself better, right? I mean if it's flawed, then obviously both parties in congress are responsible for the flaws, right? Not just one side trying to obstruct the other and trying to sabotage the legislation for political points?
2013-12-04 01:44:06 PM  
1 votes:

cwheelie: You really want the IRS (the federal equivalent of the DMV) administering your healthcare plan?


That's exactly what I want. I want my IRS Auditor to be the one who gives me flu shots.
2013-12-04 01:40:52 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Sin_City_Superhero: Theaetetus: Why would the GOP want to repeal the ACA? It's free money for insurance companies,

That's the thing I don't get. Isn't this a huge boon for the big insurance companies? All those people that would be going without insurance because they are young and healthy, are now forced to buy coverage, or pay for the privilege of opting out.

Opposition to the ACA has long, long, long gone past the point where it was rooted in any sort of ideological consistency. The opposition has only the barest of rationalizations at this point - the ACA is more liberal than what came before, because it redistributes money from the more-fortunate to the less-fortunate. That's it. That's where the opposition comes from. Trying to find specific things the ACA does which they hate is pointless. It all goes back to that,


It takes money from old white people and gives it to young black welfare babies.
2013-12-04 01:33:04 PM  
1 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: [cdn.ucadia.net image 200x300]
Not conservative enough for the GOP


Torquemada - do not implore him for compassion
Torquemada - do not ask him for forgiveness.
Torquemada - do not beg him for mercy
Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!
2013-12-04 01:30:28 PM  
1 votes:
Well the anti-ACA advocates in this thread have made their case in full, and I'm now fully convinced we should go back to having lifetime caps on insurance, denying people with pre-existing conditions, allowing insurance companies to force people out of the hospital whether they're well enough or not, and forcing the poors to die slow and painful deaths because the only taxpayer-paid medical care they get is emergency room visits.
2013-12-04 01:26:44 PM  
1 votes:

mjones73: hugram: Trolls on this thread. "We hate Obamacare... That's why we voted for the guy who implemented Romneycare."

Romney had to do something drastic in Massachusetts because their insurance market was so farked up, it wasn't an answer for the whole country...


Then why didn't he run on his record of implementing Romneycare?
2013-12-04 01:20:40 PM  
1 votes:

mjones73: Trid_Kicker: mjones73: meat0918: Yes, please proceed on running on the promise of taking away the guarantee of health insurance.

You mean health insurance you're forced to have or pay a fine over?

Like the car insurance I'm forced to have or lose my license over? Because you're a liability on the road

Like the homeowner's insurance I'm forced to pay or lose my house over? Because your mortgage company requires it

Like the liability insurance my doctor's forced to pay or lose his practice over? Because people are sue happy assholes

Well, I can see your point.  Having to buy insurance has ruined driving, housing, and pre-Obamacare medicine.  I'm convinced.

My well being is not going to impact anyone, nice try though.


You must be sterile.
2013-12-04 01:19:59 PM  
1 votes:
Trolls on this thread. "We hate Obamacare... That's why we voted for the guy who implemented Romneycare."
2013-12-04 01:18:19 PM  
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: Because some of them know about this little thing called the T-4 program.  In the hands of a despot socialized medicine is a terrible weapon.


Well, good thing the ACA isn't socialized medicine, then.

But then again, neither was T-4.

But thanks for letting us know just how tenuous your grip on reality is, and that your "contributions" here merit no further consideration.

Buh-bye!
2013-12-04 01:16:25 PM  
1 votes:

Whatchoo Talkinbout: It sucked as a theory. It sucked as a rollout. It sucks as a product.

I'm sure it'll work out fine.


Your tiny fists such must be getting work out.
2013-12-04 01:13:10 PM  
1 votes:
Keep farkin' that chicken there, Libtards. The ACA is going to end up nuking Obama and the Democrats.

- Do you really think the courts are going to let Obama get away from unilaterally altering what you so desparately call "settled law"?

- No law is "settled" All laws are subject to legislative change. ALL laws.

- The "you can keep your health insurance" lie continues to unravel daily

- Harry Reid is exempting "his people" from ACA, but us peons get stuck with it

- Just wait until the premium jumps hit everybody else. Meltdown city. People will vote for farkin' Nazi's if that what it takes to kill ACA

- you know, the law Nancy Pelosi said had to be passed so people could find out how good it is! Ha!

Once people realize what the Dems did to them, there hopefully won't be any more Affirmative Action Hires elected to the White House anytime soon....
2013-12-04 01:11:26 PM  
1 votes:
nmrsnr: Just to note, website aside, things the ACA has already done that people will not willingly let go of:

1. No more preexisting condition exclusion
2. Kids can stay on until age 26
3. Closed Medicare "donut hole"
4. 85-15 rule for insurance providers, some people have actually gotten checks from their insurer
5. No lifetime caps on insurance

Things the GOP has already done that people need to be reminded of almost all the time next year:
They are racists.
They hate women and women's rights like the Pakistani talibanis do.
They want to send your children to ar to make them oil rich.
They want to take away your social security benefits.
They want to starve your kids. 
They want everyone to love Jesus.
They hate Gays.
In fact, unless you are an old white man with tons of money in the bank, if you vote for the GOP, you should be ridiculed into a quivering mass of pee stained insecurity.

And please, feel free to do this.
2013-12-04 12:59:56 PM  
1 votes:

mjones73: meat0918: Yes, please proceed on running on the promise of taking away the guarantee of health insurance.

You mean health insurance you're forced to have or pay a fine over?


Like the car insurance I'm forced to have or lose my license over?

Like the homeowner's insurance I'm forced to pay or lose my house over?

Like the liability insurance my doctor's forced to pay or lose his practice over?

Well, I can see your point.  Having to buy insurance has ruined driving, housing, and pre-Obamacare medicine.  I'm convinced.
2013-12-04 12:45:12 PM  
1 votes:

Theaetetus: Why would the GOP want to repeal the ACA? It's free money for insurance companies, as well as providing a boogeyman to help them get the vote out.


No kidding.  Have you seen the 3 year charts for insurance company stock prices?  I'm kicking myself for not buying more when I did.  A federal law that requires people to purchase a company's product.

I'm just waiting until the GOP suddenly realizes what a great idea this is and passes a similar law that requires every citizen over the age of 18 to own a firearm.  The firearms manufacturing industry would be in heaven.
2013-12-04 12:44:32 PM  
1 votes:
So how long until the number of people enrolling exceeds the number of people having their insurance cancelled?
2013-12-04 12:38:12 PM  
1 votes:
Yes, please proceed on running on the promise of taking away the guarantee of health insurance.
2013-12-04 12:36:49 PM  
1 votes:
The thing is, selectively choosing who is exempt from the law isn't legal.  If the rapeublicans take the senate in 2014 they'll have grounds for impeachment for that.
2013-12-04 12:36:38 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: bdub77: Good for him. It's nice to see him and the Democrats finally start to show some spine.

But Christ it was a long time coming.

After the government shutdown, it's a little ludicrous to accuse the Dems of not having enough spine. Can we stop with this stupid meme? The problem with the Democrats isn't that they lack spine, it's that many of them just aren't very liberal.


No, they lack a spine as well as character.  Come to think of it, not many redeeming factors.
2013-12-04 11:45:04 AM  
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Man, if only Romney had campaigned on repealing the ACA, then he would have won.


Clearly, Romney just wasn't conservative enough. The next GOP presidential candidtate will be more conservative than ever before. THAT will certainly win back the country!
 
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