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(Fox News)   NORAD has decided to give Santa some air support this year. Naturally, some people have a problem with this   (foxnews.com) divider line 57
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2013-12-04 03:16:52 PM

edmo: It was a cute NORAD thing back when it started and didn't have it's own budget. How do you justify this fun stuff now when you have to furlough people due to lack of money? That's not just a cynical question but a real concern that DOD doesn't even try to prioritize what's important let alone cut their spending.


1. Most (probably all) of the NORAD tracks Santa stuff is done by people on active duty. There's really not an appreciable additional cost.

2. Like a lot of things, the public product is essentially military training in disguise. Like, you know when there's a flyover of an Air Force jet at an NFL game? That's got a few purposes. The obvious one is that it looks cool, and people associate "the military" and "awesome".

But, from the DoD perspective, it's a good thing to be able to have a plane in a certain location at a specific time. That's a skill that comes in handy in war. So, you figure out when the National Anthem is going to start, and tell the pilot to get over the stadium 90 seconds after that. Oh, and by the way- if you're late or off-target, there are 70,000 people in the stands and millions at home who will know. That puts a degree of dificulty on an otherwise boring rehearsal.

I'd bet that the NORAD trackers have jobs like broadcast journalism, psychological operations, and others where putting together a minute-long video segment would be part of their wartime mission. What a great way to ramp up the training- "if you screw up, half the kids in America are going to be sad on Christmas Eve, so get it right".
 
2013-12-04 04:46:03 PM

Gonz: edmo: It was a cute NORAD thing back when it started and didn't have it's own budget. How do you justify this fun stuff now when you have to furlough people due to lack of money? That's not just a cynical question but a real concern that DOD doesn't even try to prioritize what's important let alone cut their spending.

1. Most (probably all) of the NORAD tracks Santa stuff is done by people on active duty. There's really not an appreciable additional cost.

2. Like a lot of things, the public product is essentially military training in disguise. Like, you know when there's a flyover of an Air Force jet at an NFL game? That's got a few purposes. The obvious one is that it looks cool, and people associate "the military" and "awesome".

But, from the DoD perspective, it's a good thing to be able to have a plane in a certain location at a specific time. That's a skill that comes in handy in war. So, you figure out when the National Anthem is going to start, and tell the pilot to get over the stadium 90 seconds after that. Oh, and by the way- if you're late or off-target, there are 70,000 people in the stands and millions at home who will know. That puts a degree of dificulty on an otherwise boring rehearsal.

I'd bet that the NORAD trackers have jobs like broadcast journalism, psychological operations, and others where putting together a minute-long video segment would be part of their wartime mission. What a great way to ramp up the training- "if you screw up, half the kids in America are going to be sad on Christmas Eve, so get it right".


This.  My wife was assigned to an aviation squadron several years ago.  The Christmas before they deployed, they made a little video for the families.  The Kiowa squadron was assigned the task of escorting Santa.  They shot video of the crews arming the bird, the S-3 going over the operation, the S-2 giving an intelligence brief, watching the helicopters take off for "the mission", the return and debrief, ect... It let the families (especially the kids) see what their loved ones would be doing during a deployment, and it gave them a practice mission to run.  It isn't like it cost anything extra, the mission would have been run anyway, but they simply made it Santa rather than a Blackhawk.
 
2013-12-04 05:32:25 PM

lilbjorn: Why isn't the Tea Party up in arms about the government pissing money away on this stuff?


Looking at the videos in TFA I would assume because in this case the planes are Canadian so it comes our of our pocket.
/That plus The Tea Party broke up in 2005
/\ Sad slashies for that
\/ Happy slashies because they reunited in 2011
 
2013-12-04 09:58:12 PM
NORAD has always provided air escort for Santa.  The Canadians stay with the Big Guy up to the American border where they do the hand-off to the Yanks. You don't think the Commies didn't have plans to take out Santa if they every had the chance?
 
2013-12-04 10:29:14 PM

Gonz: edmo: It was a cute NORAD thing back when it started and didn't have it's own budget. How do you justify this fun stuff now when you have to furlough people due to lack of money? That's not just a cynical question but a real concern that DOD doesn't even try to prioritize what's important let alone cut their spending.

1. Most (probably all) of the NORAD tracks Santa stuff is done by people on active duty. There's really not an appreciable additional cost.

2. Like a lot of things, the public product is essentially military training in disguise. Like, you know when there's a flyover of an Air Force jet at an NFL game? That's got a few purposes. The obvious one is that it looks cool, and people associate "the military" and "awesome".

But, from the DoD perspective, it's a good thing to be able to have a plane in a certain location at a specific time. That's a skill that comes in handy in war. So, you figure out when the National Anthem is going to start, and tell the pilot to get over the stadium 90 seconds after that. Oh, and by the way- if you're late or off-target, there are 70,000 people in the stands and millions at home who will know. That puts a degree of dificulty on an otherwise boring rehearsal.

I'd bet that the NORAD trackers have jobs like broadcast journalism, psychological operations, and others where putting together a minute-long video segment would be part of their wartime mission. What a great way to ramp up the training- "if you screw up, half the kids in America are going to be sad on Christmas Eve, so get it right".


Actually the Norad Tracks Santa thing was and still is entirely funded by businesses and local area companies, for example it's a pretty safe bet that Microsoft picked up the tab for this year's website. Also in terms of manpower this thing is entirely a volunteer operation with whoever wants to help, military or civilian. In terms of finances there really is no reason for the DoD not to do this as it pretty much doesn't cost them anything.

Anyway on the topic at large, the whole thing is pretty much an advertisement for the military's missile defense program from the get go, and the website has always had a section promoting NORAD itself, I'm not sure why people suddenly have a problem with there being actual military jets in the videos, it's not like the kids watching are going to have any issue with it.
 
2013-12-05 03:21:41 AM
I like the idea of the Santa-tracking site, but the graphics are really out of date. You'd think some CG company (or a drunk college kid) could donate some time to update the animations.
 
2013-12-05 07:21:32 AM

mikemil828: it's not like the kids watching are going to have any issue with it.


They might not have an issue with it, but it's another goddamned thing I have to make up a lie about explain.
 
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