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(Forbes)   Forbes looks at succession planning at Microsoft, Wal-Mart and Kroger and declares one of these businesses you haven't shopped at in a decade the best   (forbes.com) divider line 28
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2013-12-04 09:00:42 AM
Microsoft has stores you can shop in?
 
2013-12-04 09:03:17 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Microsoft has stores you can shop in?


Yep.  They opened one in a local mall here.

I have to help certify my products on new OSes.  So I happened to be in the mall and decided to pop into the MS store to ask them some questions about Windows 8.

They couldn't answer anything.  Even simple questions.  All they did was demo the interface and try and sell me a game system.
 
2013-12-04 09:06:06 AM

Diogenes: Peter von Nostrand: Microsoft has stores you can shop in?

Yep.  They opened one in a local mall here.

I have to help certify my products on new OSes.  So I happened to be in the mall and decided to pop into the MS store to ask them some questions about Windows 8.

They couldn't answer anything.  Even simple questions.  All they did was demo the interface and try and sell me a game system.


Huh, I didn't know that. I don't think they have any around here, obviously. Gateway used to have stores but they closed years ago
 
2013-12-04 10:16:06 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Diogenes: Peter von Nostrand: Microsoft has stores you can shop in?

Yep.  They opened one in a local mall here.

I have to help certify my products on new OSes.  So I happened to be in the mall and decided to pop into the MS store to ask them some questions about Windows 8.

They couldn't answer anything.  Even simple questions.  All they did was demo the interface and try and sell me a game system.

Huh, I didn't know that. I don't think they have any around here, obviously. Gateway used to have stores but they closed years ago


They are jolly places, where the staff spontaneously dance with joy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8

Marginally funnier:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3TP9JPZk2E
 
2013-12-04 10:41:25 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Microsoft has stores you can shop in?


Yes. They are to the Apple Store what the Zune was to the iPod
 
2013-12-04 10:46:09 AM

Ed Willy: Peter von Nostrand: Microsoft has stores you can shop in?

Yes. They are to the Apple Store what the Zune was to the iPod


That's a pretty good analogy that sums it up well.
 
2013-12-04 11:00:35 AM
I'm mystified by people who shop at Kroger. The few times I've been dragged there this year by my well-meaning girlfriend, we always end up walking out the door $80-100 poorer with maybe four or five bags of items that aren't even enough materials to get the two of us through two or three days of three squares and one snack per day.

Even in the winter we can spend $50-60 at our local produce market on fruits, veggies, pastas and nuts and have enough to take care of all of our non-meat/dairy/bread needs for a week and a half. $150-$170 at Meijers gets us enough milk, cereal, bread, lunch meat, dinner meat and snacks for a full one to two weeks.

Sorry, I know this isn't about just Kroger, but it's one of those companies that gives me a lot of pause whenever it's brought up.
 
2013-12-04 11:02:20 AM

Parthenogenetic: Peter von Nostrand: Diogenes: Peter von Nostrand: Microsoft has stores you can shop in?

Yep.  They opened one in a local mall here.

I have to help certify my products on new OSes.  So I happened to be in the mall and decided to pop into the MS store to ask them some questions about Windows 8.

They couldn't answer anything.  Even simple questions.  All they did was demo the interface and try and sell me a game system.

Huh, I didn't know that. I don't think they have any around here, obviously. Gateway used to have stores but they closed years ago

They are jolly places, where the staff spontaneously dance with joy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8

Marginally funnier:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3TP9JPZk2E


I prefer this one (NSFW - language)

/file under 'wtf were they thinking'
 
2013-12-04 11:06:52 AM
Really, Microsoft's problem comes down to the fact that Ballmer had a long standing habit of driving anyone he thought might eventually challenge his position out of the company.

That, and anyone who didn't sing Windows, Windows, über alles quite loudly enough. However, Gates is as much to blame for that one as Ballmer.

The Courier tablet generated a huge amount of excitement. However, it didn't run Windows so Gates and Ballmer killed it.

Imagine a Microsoft that didn't completely fail at post PC devices.
 
2013-12-04 11:15:45 AM
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2013-12-04 11:21:30 AM
Can someone explain to me why the fark I (as a consumer, not investor)should care how a company transitions to a new CEO?
 
2013-12-04 11:23:11 AM

Cold soup: I'm mystified by people who shop at Kroger. The few times I've been dragged there this year by my well-meaning girlfriend, we always end up walking out the door $80-100 poorer with maybe four or five bags of items that aren't even enough materials to get the two of us through two or three days of three squares and one snack per day.

Even in the winter we can spend $50-60 at our local produce market on fruits, veggies, pastas and nuts and have enough to take care of all of our non-meat/dairy/bread needs for a week and a half. $150-$170 at Meijers gets us enough milk, cereal, bread, lunch meat, dinner meat and snacks for a full one to two weeks.

Sorry, I know this isn't about just Kroger, but it's one of those companies that gives me a lot of pause whenever it's brought up.


Interesting. Maybe it depends on region. We have two Krogers near us. One is a "Signature" which I think of a Super Kroger and the other is called "Marketplace" which has a larger house ware type section I guess to compete with Wal-Mart / Target.  Both are big and bright and the selection is better than anywhere else for groceries. I don't spend any more than I do in Target (which also has a grocery section. Go figure).  I also get a discount on gas by shopping there.

Oddly enough I feel the same way you describe about Brookshires and Albertsons which are my other close-by choices.
 
2013-12-04 11:25:01 AM

Ambivalence: Can someone explain to me why the fark I (as a consumer, not investor)should care how a company transitions to a new CEO?


You are on the business tab, it is geared more towards investors. The transition is meaningless to consumers unless it fails and the company goes under as a result.
 
2013-12-04 11:48:36 AM

Diogenes: I have to help certify my products on new OSes.  So I happened to be in the mall and decided to pop into the MS store to ask them some questions about Windows 8.

They couldn't answer anything.  Even simple questions.  All they did was demo the interface and try and sell me a game system.


You went into a retail outlet expecting them to be able to do anything beyond "this is really cool!" and "what colour would you like it in?"

And this somehow surprises you? Son, I am disappoint...
 
2013-12-04 12:15:42 PM

Stone Meadow: Diogenes: I have to help certify my products on new OSes.  So I happened to be in the mall and decided to pop into the MS store to ask them some questions about Windows 8.

They couldn't answer anything.  Even simple questions.  All they did was demo the interface and try and sell me a game system.

You went into a retail outlet expecting them to be able to do anything beyond "this is really cool!" and "what colour would you like it in?"

And this somehow surprises you? Son, I am disappoint...


They were in the wrong store.

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2013-12-04 12:16:36 PM
Don't think we have Krogers around here.

Switched to Linux about 3 years ago on my home boxen.

Went to Walmart once a long time ago to buy giftwrap at the last minute, and it was the thinnest crappiest wrap I've ever seen (you could see the printing on the gift through the white portions of the wrap). And well, I didn't see anything there that wasn't available at target (with the added bonus of not encountering people of walmart).

// the nearest target is in the college area, the latest walmart is in the ghetto, probably has to do something with the respective clientelle.
 
2013-12-04 12:21:01 PM

lordargent: Don't think we have Krogers around here.


They own a bunch of other chains, and they're not all traditional grocery stores.
Combination Food & Drug Stores
    Baker's Supermarkets (Omaha, Nebraska)
    City Market (Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico)
    Dillons Food Stores (Kansas, Missouri)
    Fry's Food & Drug (Arizona)
    Gerbes Super Markets (central Missouri)
    Harris Teeter (North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Maryland, Delaware, and the District of Columbia) (Pending Approval)
    Jay C (southern Indiana)
    King Soopers (Colorado, Wyoming)
    Kroger (Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana)
    Owen's (northeastern Indiana)
    Pay Less Super Markets (central Indiana)
    QFC (Oregon, Washington)
    Ralphs (Southern California)
    Scott's (Fort Wayne, Indiana)
    Smith's (Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming)
Multi Department Stores
    Fred Meyer (Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Washington)
Price Impact Stores
    Food 4 Less (Southern California; Las Vegas, Nevada; Chicago, Illinois; NW Indiana, and they have a former location in Allentown, Pennsylvania and Tahlequah, Oklahoma)there is also one location in Fremont Nebraska (Food 4 Less stores elsewhere are owned by other companies)
    Foods Co. (Northern California)
    Ruler Foods (Indiana)
Marketplace Stores
    Dillons Marketplace
    Fry's Marketplace
    King Soopers Marketplace
    Kroger Marketplace
    Smith's Marketplace
Jewelry Stores
    Fred Meyer Jewelers
    Barclay Jewelers
    Fox's Jewelers
    Littman Jewelers
Convenience Stores
    Kwik Shop (Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Tennessee, Mississippi)
    Loaf 'N Jug (Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Wyoming)
    Quik Stop (California, Nevada)
    Smith's Express (Utah)
    Tom Thumb Food Stores (Alabama, Florida)
    Turkey Hill Minit Markets (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana)
 
2013-12-04 02:49:29 PM
Have a Kroger's owned Bakers across the street from where I live. Once their dumb little savings card is factored in they seem to be on par with most other stores in the area. Now Hyvee on the other hand has really high prices here. Ymmv
 
2013-12-04 03:19:15 PM
Be back in  a bit, heading to Kroger for groceries.
 
2013-12-04 04:50:37 PM
12349876: lordargent: Don't think we have Krogers around here.


I don't think subcompanies count, since they are typically the result of one brand buying out another brand, and often the style of the original brand is maintained.

Whereas I think submitter was talking about Kroger proper.

// on that list, I recognize Ralphs and Food 4 Less. And my initial guess is supported by your list. Kroger (and it's subsidiaries) don't have a large footprint in southern California.
 
2013-12-04 05:21:05 PM

lordargent: Don't think we have Krogers around here.

Switched to Linux about 3 years ago on my home boxen.

Went to Walmart once a long time ago to buy giftwrap at the last minute, and it was the thinnest crappiest wrap I've ever seen (you could see the printing on the gift through the white portions of the wrap). And well, I didn't see anything there that wasn't available at target (with the added bonus of not encountering people of walmart).

// the nearest target is in the college area, the latest walmart is in the ghetto, probably has to do something with the respective clientelle.


I didn't think we had it here, but Food 4  Less is owned by them.
 
2013-12-04 05:41:02 PM
Fred Meyer = Kroger, and we shop there once or twice a month, based on which direction we're driving home.

Most people forget they sell electronics, so that's also where I often pick up hard-to-find games and systems.  I wouldn't be surprised if there were a couple Xbones and PS4s sitting on the shelf...
 
2013-12-04 06:14:36 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Microsoft has stores you can shop in?


I've seen two in malls.  They were both  immediately across from their respective Apple store.  Which was a compounded failure... the comparison to the bustling competition served to make them look even sadder.
 
2013-12-04 06:22:34 PM
drjekel_mrhyde: I didn't think we had it here, but Food 4 Less is owned by them.

Ralph's too, per previous post.

In my area, Ralph's is a crappier store than Vons (but there are some items I get there that vons doesn't carry, so I drop in when I get a craving ... port wine cheese for example)

And Food 4 Less is ghetto, but still worth dropping in on every few months to stock up on canned goods (which is basically the only thing I ever buy from there, because they are much cheaper than either Vons or Ralphs).
 
2013-12-04 06:33:07 PM

lordargent: 12349876: lordargent: Don't think we have Krogers around here.


I don't think subcompanies count, since they are typically the result of one brand buying out another brand, and often the style of the original brand is maintained.

Whereas I think submitter was talking about Kroger proper.

// on that list, I recognize Ralphs and Food 4 Less. And my initial guess is supported by your list. Kroger (and it's subsidiaries) don't have a large footprint in southern California.


I guess I can see how you would read it that way from the way subby wrote the headline,  but TFA is about corporate CEOs and the new CEO of Kroger will have an impact on Ralph's and Food 4 Less.
 
2013-12-04 08:27:28 PM

lordargent: In my area, Ralph's is a crappier store than Vons


I've found the opposite to be true in LA.

Ralph's does seem to vary according to what neighborhood they're in. One in poorer areas aren't a nice as the ones in nicer areas.
 
2013-12-04 08:49:23 PM
Krieghund: Ralph's does seem to vary according to what neighborhood they're in. One in poorer areas aren't a nice as the ones in nicer areas.

Vons and Ralphs are at the border between a college area and a poorer area of town (both are about the same distance from the college, ralphs is closer to dorms and student apartments/houses though).

But it seems that the college kids decided to go to Vons.

I think it's because vons is in a little strip mall (with a laundromat, a popeyes, a burger king, a frozen yogurt place and some other random stores) vs Ralphs (which is a standalone store).

The juxtaposition is odd.
 
2013-12-05 01:07:28 AM
Kroger also owns Turkey Hill Dairies in the Lanacaster, PA area (their ice cream and teas are in about every supermarket in southeastern PA and nearby states), although their ownership is pretty hidden (and odd given how they don't have any full grocery stores anywhere nearby..I think their nearest stores are in Ohio?)
 
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