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(Boston.com)   Jacoby Ellsbury signs a seven-year, $153 million deal. With the Yankees   (boston.com ) divider line
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2013-12-03 09:00:07 PM  
Now hopefully A-Roid wins his appeal and their payroll skyrockets past the salary cap.
 
2013-12-03 09:01:39 PM  
This thing makes no sense. I'm going to bed tonight and hope I wake up and this was just a bad dream.
 
2013-12-03 09:23:28 PM  

Demetrius: Now hopefully A-Roid wins his appeal and their payroll skyrockets past the salary cap.


It's always past the salary cap -they just simply pay the fine.
 
2013-12-03 09:28:27 PM  

Frederick: Demetrius: Now hopefully A-Roid wins his appeal and their payroll skyrockets past the salary cap.

It's always past the salary cap -they just simply pay the fine.


Hank was talking that they were coming in under the cap this year.  This plus McCann push them way up, and they're just getting started.  No money left for Cano, not that they'd sign him for the ridiculous deal he was looking for.  Although, seeing this, who the hell knows.
 
2013-12-03 09:34:25 PM  
I think I set a record: 11 seconds of denial, 13 seconds of anger, 4.7 seconds of bargaining, 17 seconds of despair, and then right onto shopping for Jackie Bradley Jr jersey shirts
 
2013-12-03 09:34:54 PM  
Jacoby is great when he's healthy. And not miserable.  Lots of DL time though.
 
2013-12-03 09:39:44 PM  

BunkoSquad: I think I set a record: 11 seconds of denial, 13 seconds of anger, 4.7 seconds of bargaining, 17 seconds of despair, and then right onto shopping for Jackie Bradley Jr jersey shirts


I've already been resigned to the fact that he was gone.  I've always enjoyed him as a player, but he's constantly seemed just miserable no matter what the situation.  He'd better produce out of the gate in NY otherwise they'll turn on him quick and he'll spiral out of control.
 
2013-12-03 09:40:21 PM  

Frederick: Demetrius: Now hopefully A-Roid wins his appeal and their payroll skyrockets past the salary cap.

It's always past the salary cap -they just simply pay the fine.


yup
 
2013-12-03 10:08:41 PM  
He was gone a year ago, not a surprise.  Got his payday and out the door.  That is how baseball sometimes works.  Loved watching him play, don't want to watch him play against us.  See ya this summer.
 
2013-12-03 10:13:10 PM  
Bahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2013-12-03 10:19:45 PM  
Damned Brian Cashman and his stupid deals.

Fire him. Now!
 
2013-12-03 10:29:37 PM  
that is a vast center field area in his new stadium.  He can cover the ground with his legs, but Tagging on a deepish fly ball and going first to second will be a regular thing.  First to third on hits to his left will also be a regular thing.
He will miss the equivalent of 2 to 3 of those 7 seasons to injury.
That said, he's as good as any leadoff hitter in MLB and was absolutely awesome in the post season.
21 + million per?  no way
 
2013-12-03 10:32:39 PM  
I am speechless with shock. I cannot speak any more.
 
2013-12-03 10:33:06 PM  
lol
 
2013-12-04 01:27:57 AM  
Is it a mater of pride with the yanks to have the most bloated payroll in baseball?   Actually a better question is will Ellsbury be making more per year off of this deal than the lowest club payroll for each of the seven years?
 
2013-12-04 01:39:55 AM  

Demetrius: Frederick: Demetrius: Now hopefully A-Roid wins his appeal and their payroll skyrockets past the salary cap.

It's always past the salary cap -they just simply pay the fine.

Hank was talking that they were coming in under the cap this year.  This plus McCann push them way up, and they're just getting started.  No money left for Cano, not that they'd sign him for the ridiculous deal he was looking for.  Although, seeing this, who the hell knows.


last year Cano played in 30 more games, hit for a higher average, hit 3X the HRs, twice the RBIs, higher OBP. Ellsbury  had better speed

How can you not pay Cano now when you are willing to do it for Ellsbury? I am thinking 8 and 180M at this point or something equivalent
 
2013-12-04 01:48:41 AM  
...well, this will end well.


How come we never hear about an ex-Yankee joining the Sox?
 
2013-12-04 01:49:07 AM  

Saiga410: Is it a mater of pride with the yanks to have the most bloated payroll in baseball?   Actually a better question is will Ellsbury be making more per year off of this deal than the lowest club payroll for each of the seven years?


Robert James once wrote "why don't fans of other teams simply pressure the club to spend more money?" Its a business and a sport - If you have money you invest in your business, and that's just what the Yankees do.
Why is it the Yankees fault Houston Astros only had a salary of 23mil? Look how they did. Tampa Bay? few years ago they gave out 20,000 play off tickets and only a quarter were even accepted - still nobody watches them or go to the games unless another teams fans show up. Cubs sell out every year and the owners still won't buy any decent players, wonder why?

Yankees make money and spend it, so do Detroit, Boston and Phillies, apparently they don't have a problem making and spending money. How would your business fair if you didn't invest in it? Think you would have any customers then?

One underline problem I see, teams like the Tampa bay Rays have a problem - there are simply TO many sport teams in Florida, also the fact the Rays Stadium is in one horrible location - they will never be successful in Tampa no matter how much they bleed the salary from other teams.
And owners are actually getting tired of it, Rays will not shell out money and live off the Salary caps of the teams that DO spend the money - one of baseballs biggest flaws, if the team won't shell money they should not be allowed to leech off other teams.

It is what it is, we can complain about payroll of the yankees but fact is they spend the money - every other team can as well.
 
2013-12-04 01:55:01 AM  

Misconduc: Why is it the Yankees fault Houston Astros only had a salary of 23mil? Look how they did. Tampa Bay? few years ago they gave out 20,000 play off tickets and only a quarter were even accepted - still nobody watches them or go to the games unless another teams fans show up. Cubs sell out every year and the owners still won't buy any decent players, wonder why?


I'm largely in agreement with you.  In fact, I'd point out that at least back in the 90s, Steinbrenner wasn't particularly rich for a baseball owner.  Give that title to Carl Pohlad.

But the Rays actually are one of the most watched teams in baseball, and have a pretty good TV deal, if I remember correctly.  Nobody goes to their games, but Florida has them on their TVs.
 
2013-12-04 01:57:36 AM  

Demetrius: Jacoby is great when he's healthy. And not miserable.  Lots of DL time though.



Nana's Vibrator: that is a vast center field area in his new stadium.  He can cover the ground with his legs, but Tagging on a deepish fly ball and going first to second will be a regular thing.  First to third on hits to his left will also be a regular thing.
He will miss the equivalent of 2 to 3 of those 7 seasons to injury.



These, pretty much.  He'll be a great personnel fit and good soldier (provided the media spotlight is elsewhere), but something about Yankee big talent- big contracts almost always are equalized with an overabundance of DL time.  Not that I wish that on JE, he was great for the Sawks.  It just seems to happen, and he's already known to be not so durable.  Good luck, center-fielder man.
 
2013-12-04 02:03:15 AM  
time for the sox to raise ticket prices and trade away talent.
$$
 
2013-12-04 02:32:30 AM  

Demetrius: BunkoSquad: I think I set a record: 11 seconds of denial, 13 seconds of anger, 4.7 seconds of bargaining, 17 seconds of despair, and then right onto shopping for Jackie Bradley Jr jersey shirts

I've already been resigned to the fact that he was gone.  I've always enjoyed him as a player, but he's constantly seemed just miserable no matter what the situation.  He'd better produce out of the gate in NY otherwise they'll turn on him quick and he'll spiral out of control.


Whereupon, he'll laugh -- in his way -- and enjoy the $17 million annual salary and no-trade clause.
 
2013-12-04 02:33:10 AM  
Read that without A-Rod their salary next year is $144 million... So a little room for SP and Cano...
 
2013-12-04 02:33:11 AM  
Good now that the Yanks have already overspent this offseason, the Nationals have a realistic shot at Cano.
 
2013-12-04 02:55:03 AM  

Sirboss37: Read that without A-Rod their salary next year is $144 million... So a little room for SP and Cano...


I am still not convinced he gets the year off. I can see it getting cut in half. 100 game suspension, 62 games of problem.

The yanks might get lucky and be able to void the contract, but i don't see that either.
 
2013-12-04 03:07:35 AM  

Misconduc: It is what it is, we can complain about payroll of the yankees but fact is they spend the money - every other team can as well.


Ok let's see how long the Pirates, Royals, Rays, etc. remain solvent with a $200 million payroll

The Yankees and Red Sox and Angels and Dodgers can and always will be able to outspend the rest of the league because they are in the richest markets. The small markets will never ever ever allow teams to make enough money to compete with that.
 
2013-12-04 03:41:02 AM  

Piizzadude: How can you not pay Cano now when you are willing to do it for Ellsbury?


Because you used the money you would've used to pay him to pay Ellsbury instead?
 
2013-12-04 03:51:16 AM  

WTF Indeed: This thing makes no sense. I'm going to bed tonight and hope I wake up and this was just a bad dream.


AWESOME dream, it hurts the red sox AND the yankees.

Best deal ever.
 
2013-12-04 04:54:58 AM  

Sirboss37: Read that without A-Rod their salary next year is $144 million... So a little room for SP and Cano..


Not quite

As of right now, they have $117M + roughly $22M for Ellsbury. That's including ARod, and the actual luxury tax number is a few million lower by accounting tricks. They still have to give arbitration out, but that's estimated to be about $15M for all of their guys. If the Yankees have ARod off the books, they'll have a luxury tax number at around $130M after arbitration. The threshold is $189M. They still have money to spend on Cano and a starter.

If ARod isn't off the books though, they are at $156 and they basically have to go over if they're going to sign Cano, get a starter AND get that Japanese pitcher. Without ARod, they can get all of that without much sweat.
 
2013-12-04 06:22:55 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: that is a vast center field area in his new stadium.  He can cover the ground with his legs, but Tagging on a deepish fly ball and going first to second will be a regular thing.  First to third on hits to his left will also be a regular thing.
He will miss the equivalent of 2 to 3 of those 7 seasons to injury.
That said, he's as good as any leadoff hitter in MLB and was absolutely awesome in the post season.
21 + million per?  no way


He is making more per year with this contract than he made total with his last contract.
 
2013-12-04 06:43:36 AM  
7 years at $21+ per year?  Bwaaaaahahahaha!  He's ALL yours! Have fun with that! Good luck negotiating with Cano now!
 
2013-12-04 06:44:12 AM  

I sound fat: AWESOME dream, it hurts the red sox AND the yankees.


Doesn't hurt the Red Sox.
 
2013-12-04 06:48:23 AM  

ElwoodCuse: The Yankees and Red Sox and Angels and Dodgers can and always will be able to outspend the rest of the league because they are in the richest markets. The small markets will never ever ever allow teams to make enough money to compete with that.


That doesn't equal wins.
 
2013-12-04 07:07:04 AM  

JSam21: He is making more per year with this contract than he made total with his last contract.


Yeah, I don't blame him one bit for taking that kind of money. I'm not the type of Sox fan who cared when Damon or other Sox players left for a big payday, either. He's a good player, but I just simply don't believe he is worth that much for that length of time. If the Sox bought in long-term I'd be pissed. This I can shrug off and not care too much about.
 
2013-12-04 07:22:48 AM  
Wake me when cano signs with the angels

/you know they will
 
2013-12-04 07:24:09 AM  

lacydog: Sirboss37: Read that without A-Rod their salary next year is $144 million... So a little room for SP and Cano..

Not quite

As of right now, they have $117M + roughly $22M for Ellsbury. That's including ARod, and the actual luxury tax number is a few million lower by accounting tricks. They still have to give arbitration out, but that's estimated to be about $15M for all of their guys. If the Yankees have ARod off the books, they'll have a luxury tax number at around $130M after arbitration. The threshold is $189M. They still have money to spend on Cano and a starter.

If ARod isn't off the books though, they are at $156 and they basically have to go over if they're going to sign Cano, get a starter AND get that Japanese pitcher. Without ARod, they can get all of that without much sweat.


That's what I get for getting info off Twitter...

/Ken Rosenthal
 
2013-12-04 07:57:04 AM  
Fark the Yankees.
 
2013-12-04 08:15:02 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Wake me when cano signs with the angels

/you know they will


I'm not sure if the Mariners rumors are exactly that or if they're really serious.
 
2013-12-04 08:19:18 AM  

BunkoSquad: I think I set a record: 11 seconds of denial, 13 seconds of anger, 4.7 seconds of bargaining, 17 seconds of despair, and then right onto shopping for Jackie Bradley Jr jersey shirts


FIIIIIVE GOLD RIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGS..
 
2013-12-04 08:24:20 AM  
So long DLlsbury.
 
2013-12-04 08:24:21 AM  

sephjnr: BunkoSquad: I think I set a record: 11 seconds of denial, 13 seconds of anger, 4.7 seconds of bargaining, 17 seconds of despair, and then right onto shopping for Jackie Bradley Jr jersey shirts

FIIIIIVE TWENTY-SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT GOLD RIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGS..

 
2013-12-04 08:28:54 AM  
Buy milk the day after its expiration date at twice the price. It's the Yankees way.
 
2013-12-04 08:37:51 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Wake me when cano signs with the angels

/you know they will




And soon as the ink is dry he will be on the 60 day dl
 
2013-12-04 08:39:51 AM  

BunkoSquad: I think I set a record: 11 seconds of denial, 13 seconds of anger, 4.7 seconds of bargaining, 17 seconds of despair, and then right onto shopping for Jackie Bradley Jr jersey shirts


I think I skipped right over denial, anger, bargaining and despair. Is that bad? And hold off on the Junior Bradley shirts, he's just gonna leave town in 5-20 years anyways.
 
2013-12-04 08:43:43 AM  
Hope this doesn't mean Gardner gets dealt. I like that guy for some reason.
 
2013-12-04 08:44:58 AM  

H31N0US: Hope this doesn't mean Gardner gets dealt. I like that guy for some reason.


He's being paid peanuts and he's a good player, he's not going anywhere.
 
2013-12-04 08:47:17 AM  

H31N0US: Hope this doesn't mean Gardner gets dealt. I like that guy for some reason.


Gardner likely stays.. its Granderson that this puts into question
 
2013-12-04 08:56:10 AM  

The Bestest: H31N0US: Hope this doesn't mean Gardner gets dealt. I like that guy for some reason.

Gardner likely stays.. its Granderson that this puts into question


He was meeting with the Mets recently, he knows he's the odd man out.
 
2013-12-04 09:01:08 AM  

The Bestest: H31N0US: Hope this doesn't mean Gardner gets dealt. I like that guy for some reason.

Gardner likely stays.. its Granderson that this puts into question


granderson is a great guy, but i hope the tigers dont spend crazy money on him.
 
2013-12-04 09:04:02 AM  

The Bestest: H31N0US: Hope this doesn't mean Gardner gets dealt. I like that guy for some reason.

Gardner likely stays.. its Granderson that this puts into question


Well, honest question because I haven't paid much attention to them lately - what's his contract situation? I mean, he's been good for them and all, but if he was looking for more contract here, then I'm guessing he's long gone now.
 
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