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(Reuters)   Yesterday: Obamacare is a complete disaster, not enough people are signing up because of the broken site Today: Obamacare is a complete disaster, too many people are signing up because the site is working   (in.reuters.com) divider line 236
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2013-12-03 07:02:03 PM  
I remember a lawyer film from the 90's, maybe with John Travolta, where one of the senior lawyers was saying "Always object, even if you're wrong. It leaves something in the minds of the jury."
 
2013-12-03 07:11:21 PM  
Front end being broken masks issues with backend being broken. Front end being better exacerbates issue with backend. This is a win for people who don't read the article.
 
2013-12-03 07:12:04 PM  

wildcardjack: I remember a lawyer film from the 90's, maybe with John Travolta, where one of the senior lawyers was saying "Always object, even if you're wrong. It leaves something in the minds of the jury."


There are no citizens, only litigants!
 
2013-12-03 07:12:38 PM  
Oh noes! Too many people are trying to send us monies!!!!!

Terrible problem to have.

Author seems to use talking points that were debunked a day or 2 ago and more than a few 'may's 'maybe's and 'could's.

wildcardjack: I remember a lawyer film from the 90's, maybe with John Travolta, where one of the senior lawyers was saying "Always object, even if you're wrong. It leaves something in the minds of the jury."


"Look at all these things we keep saying. Even though they're not true, why do we keep saying them? There must be a failing of the thing we're talking about."-Rand Paul
 
2013-12-03 07:12:45 PM  
Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.
 
2013-12-03 07:12:51 PM  
Well I went from unable to view my eligibility results, to unable to log into the website, so at least my issues have changed.

Called the technical support hotline, they manually reset my password and e-mailed me a temporary one, which also did not work.
 
2013-12-03 07:12:58 PM  
Daniel Durham, a vice president for policy and regulatory affairs at America's Health Insurance Plans, a lobby group for health insurers, said companies were regularly receiving faulty enrollment forms. He did not give details on how frequently the errors were appearing."

A lobbyist who refuses to provide details about things he he is claiming that is happening? Hmmmmmm.... Maybe the media could ask him about that.
 
2013-12-03 07:13:04 PM  
In what could become the next major headache for President Barack Obama's signature domestic policy, a group representing leading U.S. insurers said on Tuesday that technology fixes that will enable millions of people to sign on to HealthCare.gov have not fully addressed faulty data that the site has been sending these companies about their new enrollees.
The problems include enrollment forms with erroneous personal information as well as duplicate or missing applications. In some cases, consumers who believe they have signed up may not have a file with the insurer.


So I get input sanitizing, but really? They are complaining about customers sending bad data? There's a limit to what you can do about folks putting in bad data.
 
2013-12-03 07:13:58 PM  
This kindda reminds me of when you go to visit the old lady down the street.
You ring the doorbell and she says "Come on in".
You spend about five minuets trying in frustration to open her old worn out doorknob.
When you finally do get it open, you are then greeted with the wonderful smell old age and cat piss.
 
2013-12-03 07:17:42 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-03 07:19:46 PM  
So if back in the old days a lot of people tried to buy insurance from these folks they would throw up their hands and say "Sorry, we can't take your money"?  Sounds to me like come insurance companies need to hire some temporary labor to do filing and data entry. Just in time for the holidays, too!
 
2013-12-03 07:20:21 PM  

Weatherkiss:


Once you love someone those soggy crackers they're eating after the circle jerk look delicious.
 
2013-12-03 07:21:07 PM  
I'm glad people are able to sign up, but the site is STILL borked for me.  I can't actually read my eligibility results or view plans, I just get a blank screen.  I called the line and was honestly asked several times if I've turned my computer off and turned it on again and cleared cookies.
 
2013-12-03 07:22:32 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: In what could become the next major headache for President Barack Obama's signature domestic policy, a group representing leading U.S. insurers said on Tuesday that technology fixes that will enable millions of people to sign on to HealthCare.gov have not fully addressed faulty data that the site has been sending these companies about their new enrollees.
The problems include enrollment forms with erroneous personal information as well as duplicate or missing applications. In some cases, consumers who believe they have signed up may not have a file with the insurer.

So I get input sanitizing, but really? They are complaining about customers sending bad data? There's a limit to what you can do about folks putting in bad data.


Especially when you have people deliberately trying to fark up the system.
 
2013-12-03 07:24:46 PM  
this is just more 0bummer taking credit for other people's work.

- He didn't kill Osama

- He didn't create Romneycare

- He didn't fix the website

you libs are so pathetic
 
2013-12-03 07:25:03 PM  
I guess the republican's latest check to the hackers didn't clear.
 
2013-12-03 07:26:48 PM  

skullkrusher: Weatherkiss:

Once you love someone those soggy crackers they're eating after the circle jerk look delicious.


No, that's all wrong. It's: "If you love someone, set them free. If they come back, they'll come back with crackers. Best part?.......forever."
 
2013-12-03 07:27:09 PM  

falcon176: this is just more 0bummer taking credit for other people's work.

- He didn't kill Osama

- He didn't create Romneycare

- He didn't fix the website

you libs are so pathetic


I love how people say that Obama "didn't kill Osama". Bush sure didn't care about Osama.
 
2013-12-03 07:29:15 PM  

falcon176: this is just more 0bummer taking credit for other people's work.

- He didn't kill Osama

- He didn't create Romneycare

- He didn't fix the website

you libs are so pathetic


You spelled "Lib's" wrong.

/pet peave
 
2013-12-03 07:30:15 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: skullkrusher: Weatherkiss:

Once you love someone those soggy crackers they're eating after the circle jerk look delicious.

No, that's all wrong. It's: "If you love someone, set them free. If they come back, they'll come back with crackers. Best part?.......forever."


Hehe
 
2013-12-03 07:30:18 PM  
Gee... insurance companies whining about crap - what else is new? It doesn't matter if every application they got was printed in gold and wrapped up with a pretty little bow - the idiots who work there could never enter it into their system correctly. Recently it took us 6 months to get our address changed with Coventry. They kept claiming they had done it but just couldn't figure out why it wasn't working.
 
2013-12-03 07:30:24 PM  
In Perpetuity:  "We still maintain that most Americans DO NOT WANT INSURANCE!"
 
2013-12-03 07:32:29 PM  

skullkrusher: Weatherkiss:

Once you love someone those soggy crackers they're eating after the circle jerk look delicious.


who brings soggy crackers to a circle .... oh my.
 
2013-12-03 07:32:53 PM  

skullkrusher: This is a win for people who don't read the article.


A better regulated insurance industry is a win for everyone.
 
2013-12-03 07:38:18 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.


President McDronekill-Spyvie-HopenChange on the other hand is a model of a sane leader isn't he?
 
2013-12-03 07:39:34 PM  
 
2013-12-03 07:40:52 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: Gee... insurance companies whining about crap - what else is new? It doesn't matter if every application they got was printed in gold and wrapped up with a pretty little bow - the idiots who work there could never enter it into their system correctly. Recently it took us 6 months to get our address changed with Coventry. They kept claiming they had done it but just couldn't figure out why it wasn't working.


www.homedefenceuk.com

NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
 
2013-12-03 07:45:06 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-03 07:45:26 PM  

1derful: Zeppelininthesky: Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.

President McDronekill-Spyvie-HopenChange on the other hand is a model of a sane leader isn't he?


One wonders precisely who your "model of a sane leader" is.
 
2013-12-03 07:47:47 PM  
I feel really bad for these for-profit insurance companies.  They're only legally allowed to keep something like 20% of the money that Congress has ordered they receive as profit.  A 20% profit?  What is this, Ford in 1950?
 
2013-12-03 07:48:47 PM  

BullBearMS: For certain values of "working".


That's funny that you should use an image related to an elective executive decision that killed hundreds of thousands of people to criticize a sub-optimally working website.
 
2013-12-03 07:49:38 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: I love how people say that Obama "didn't kill Osama". Bush sure didn't care about Osama.


amen to that one.
the death of Bin Laden was one of Obama's best.
Bush absolutely sucks on that point (among many other things)
 
2013-12-03 07:50:52 PM  

1derful: Zeppelininthesky: Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.

President McDronekill-Spyvie-HopenChange on the other hand is a model of a sane leader isn't he?


retired.talkingpointsmemo.com
 
2013-12-03 07:51:28 PM  

Without Fail: A better regulated insurance industry is a win for everyone.


a completely eliminated one would be better.
 
2013-12-03 07:51:57 PM  
BullBearMS:
[liberalvaluesblog.com image 600x654]

Do you have the original of that?
 
2013-12-03 07:53:18 PM  

Orange-Pippin: 1derful: Zeppelininthesky: Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.

President McDronekill-Spyvie-HopenChange on the other hand is a model of a sane leader isn't he?

[retired.talkingpointsmemo.com image 320x240]


He's not even from this country Bill Ayers all the nines Malcolm X was his father community organizer Reverend Wright////is nothing like Ted Cruz's Cuban father...for some reason and why should Cruz have to produce his mother's birth certificate to verify his citizenship///gay Moochelle.
 
2013-12-03 07:55:28 PM  

Skleenar: BullBearMS: For certain values of "working".

That's funny that you should use an image related to an elective executive decision that killed hundreds of thousands of people to criticize a sub-optimally working website.


A website that tells people they have coverage when they do NOT is not working at all.
 
2013-12-03 07:55:37 PM  

WippitGuud: BullBearMS:
[liberalvaluesblog.com image 600x654]

Do you have the original of that?


www.jillstanek.com
 
2013-12-03 07:57:54 PM  
How many people are actually expected to sign up on the federal exchange, as opposed to through state exchanges, work, insurance agents, etc.?
 
2013-12-03 07:58:33 PM  

WippitGuud: BullBearMS:
[liberalvaluesblog.com image 600x654]

Do you have the original of that?


www.comicpasion.com
 
2013-12-03 07:59:31 PM  

BullBearMS: A website that tells people they have coverage when they do NOT is not working at all.


The validity of your assertion aside, are you suggesting that any error, whatsoever, renders a website completely non-functional?

Because if you are, that's pretty cray-cray.
 
2013-12-03 08:00:09 PM  

The Larch: How many people are actually expected to sign up on the federal exchange, as opposed to through state exchanges, work, insurance agents, etc.?


ALL OF THEM.  NONE OF THEM.  WHATEVER ANSWER MAKES OBAMA SEEM BAD.
 
2013-12-03 08:04:11 PM  

1derful: Zeppelininthesky: Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.

President McDronekill-Spyvie-HopenChange on the other hand is a model of a sane leader isn't he?


Let's see:

Obama fixed the mess that Bush made of the economy
Lowered unemployment
Gave poor people access to healthcare which they could not afford
Stocks and DJI is at its highest
Iraq war is finished
Afghanistan war is winding down
Peace with Syria
Peace with Iran
Ended DOMA
Ended DADT

All of this despite complete opposition by the GOP and teabaggers.
 
2013-12-03 08:05:23 PM  

BullBearMS: Skleenar: BullBearMS: For certain values of "working".

That's funny that you should use an image related to an elective executive decision that killed hundreds of thousands of people to criticize a sub-optimally working website.

A website that tells people they have coverage when they do NOT is not working at all.


Thanks to your clear and thoughtful explanation, I now understand how the comparison between the needless death of hundreds of thousands in Iraq and a buggy website is valid.
 
2013-12-03 08:06:40 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: 1derful: Zeppelininthesky: Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.

President McDronekill-Spyvie-HopenChange on the other hand is a model of a sane leader isn't he?

Let's see:

Obama fixed the mess that Bush made of the economy
Lowered unemployment
Gave poor people access to healthcare which they could not afford
Stocks and DJI is at its highest
Iraq war is finished
Afghanistan war is winding down
Peace with Syria
Peace with Iran
Ended DOMA
Ended DADT

All of this despite complete opposition by the GOP and teabaggers.


You realize that those last four are simply proof of the imminent endtimes, and all the other stuff is just the delayed Bush dividend that we've all been expecting from the culmination of his good works.
 
2013-12-03 08:06:56 PM  

1derful: Zeppelininthesky: Republicans will never ever say anything good about anything Obama does. Period. They are farking sociopaths.

President McDronekill-Spyvie-HopenChange on the other hand is a model of a sane leader isn't he?


*checks profile*

Ah, another sleeper troll Fark Independent. I always marvel when they manage to avoid detection for so long.
 
2013-12-03 08:07:25 PM  

Skleenar: The Larch: How many people are actually expected to sign up on the federal exchange, as opposed to through state exchanges, work, insurance agents, etc.?

ALL OF THEM.  NONE OF THEM.  WHATEVER ANSWER MAKES OBAMA SEEM BAD.


You could have just said potatoe.
 
2013-12-03 08:08:01 PM  

The Larch: Thanks to your clear and thoughtful explanation, I now understand how the comparison between the needless death of hundreds of thousands in Iraq and a buggy website is valid.


Actually, since some Iraqis are still alive, none of them died.
 
2013-12-03 08:08:30 PM  

Skleenar: BullBearMS: A website that tells people they have coverage when they do NOT is not working at all.

The validity of your assertion aside, are you suggesting that any error, whatsoever, renders a website completely non-functional?

Because if you are, that's pretty cray-cray.


dl.dropboxusercontent.com

The enrollment records for a significant portion of the Americans who have chosen health plans through the online federal insurance marketplace contain errors - generated by the computer system - that mean they might not get the coverage they're expecting next month.

The errors cumulatively have affected roughly one-third of the people who have signed up for health plans


30% of the accounts have errors so severe that they might not have coverage at all despite the site telling them that they do, but it's not really a problem?
 
2013-12-03 08:10:49 PM  

BullBearMS: Skleenar: BullBearMS: A website that tells people they have coverage when they do NOT is not working at all.

The validity of your assertion aside, are you suggesting that any error, whatsoever, renders a website completely non-functional?

Because if you are, that's pretty cray-cray.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 394x612]

The enrollment records for a significant portion of the Americans who have chosen health plans through the online federal insurance marketplace contain errors - generated by the computer system - that mean they might not get the coverage they're expecting next month.

The errors cumulatively have affected roughly one-third of the people who have signed up for health plans

30% of the accounts have errors so severe that they might not have coverage at all despite the site telling them that they do, but it's not really a problem?


Which is why if you don't hear anything about your insurance you should actually contact them. Or, you could just call them in the first place.
 
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