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(Slate)   "I suggested finding a job after graduation, even if it's only temporary. [Amy] cried harder at this idea. 'So, becoming an adult is just really scary for you?' I asked. 'Yes,' she sniffled. Amy is 30 years old"   (slate.com) divider line 440
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2013-12-03 05:35:17 PM
Fark needs a PATHETIC tag!
 
2013-12-03 05:45:49 PM
Millennial narcissism.  Someone please explain to me why managers and other adults are expected to adapt to this (30 is the new 18!) instead of requiring people to Grow the Fark UP.
 
2013-12-03 06:01:58 PM
Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate
 
2013-12-03 06:04:54 PM

Voiceofreason01: Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate


This sounds exactly like two millennials I have working for me right now, fresh out of grad school.
 
2013-12-03 06:08:50 PM
Ah, she will make an EXCEPTIONAL gold-digger at this point in her life to some lucky man.
 
2013-12-03 06:09:34 PM
Assuming TFA is even real, the subject does have depression, and that can seriously fark a person up in a million ways.
 
2013-12-03 06:17:45 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate

This sounds exactly like two millennials I have working for me right now, fresh out of grad school.


maybe it's you?

:-D
 
2013-12-03 06:21:52 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Millennial narcissism.  Someone please explain to me why managers and other adults are expected to adapt to this (30 is the new 18!) instead of requiring people to Grow the Fark UP.


That would hurt their self esteem!
 
2013-12-03 06:22:37 PM
I'm going through this with my daughter who is 19 and refuses to join the "grown up" world.  If she continues on with this when she is 30 I might kill us all.
 
2013-12-03 06:23:19 PM
Wow, Amy sounds emotionally retarded, codependent, and completely without self-esteem.

In closing, I desperately need to know what Amy's OKCupid profile name is.
 
2013-12-03 06:25:39 PM

Voiceofreason01: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate

This sounds exactly like two millennials I have working for me right now, fresh out of grad school.

maybe it's you?

:-D


No, I don't think I forced them to cry at the drop of a hat, getting defensive and weepy literally every time anyone says something to them that isn't praise.  I wasn't even in the room, actually.
 
2013-12-03 06:30:12 PM

brap: Wow, Amy sounds emotionally retarded, codependent, and completely without self-esteem.

In closing, I desperately need to know what Amy's OKCupid profile name is.


I bet she hates drama.
 
2013-12-03 06:30:41 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Assuming TFA is even real, the subject does have depression, and that can seriously fark a person up in a million ways.


Strip clubs are always hiring.

And if she's crying while she shakes it, I'll pay extra.
 
2013-12-03 06:30:56 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate

This sounds exactly like two millennials I have working for me right now, fresh out of grad school.

maybe it's you?

:-D

No, I don't think I forced them to cry at the drop of a hat, getting defensive and weepy literally every time anyone says something to them that isn't praise.  I wasn't even in the room, actually.


How do people like that get a job in the first place?  DId they not have interviews?
 
2013-12-03 06:31:50 PM
God damn.

I have a problem.
 
2013-12-03 06:31:56 PM
It became increasingly difficult to balance school, socializing, laundry, and a part-time job. She finally had to dump the part-time job, was still unable to do laundry, and often stayed up until 2 a.m. trying to complete homework because she didn't know how to manage her time without her parents keeping track of her schedule.

[quizzical_dog.jpg]
 
2013-12-03 06:35:42 PM

Klippoklondike: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate

This sounds exactly like two millennials I have working for me right now, fresh out of grad school.

maybe it's you?

:-D

No, I don't think I forced them to cry at the drop of a hat, getting defensive and weepy literally every time anyone says something to them that isn't praise.  I wasn't even in the room, actually.

How do people like that get a job in the first place?  DId they not have interviews?


Don't get me started.
 
2013-12-03 06:35:47 PM
TFAPeople in their 20s no longer view themselves as adults

I'm 38 and I don't consider myself an adult.

/But in a good way
 
2013-12-03 06:36:51 PM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-12-03 06:38:14 PM
Wow, that is absolutely pathetic.
 
2013-12-03 06:39:47 PM

gilgigamesh: God damn.

I have a problem.


Not enough cash on you to hit Rick's?
 
2013-12-03 06:41:59 PM

Nabb1: gilgigamesh: God damn.

I have a problem.

Not enough cash on you to hit Rick's?


Precisely. Now I have to go to Visions. *shudder*
 
2013-12-03 06:43:27 PM

SundaesChild: I'm going through this with my daughter who is 19 and refuses to join the "grown up" world.  If she continues on with this when she is 30 I might kill us all.


My 20 year old is the same way and all this time I thought being an asshole would make her want to find a job and a place
 
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2013-12-03 06:43:41 PM
Your lazy school time is over, Amy. Condolences. The millennials lost. My advice to you ma'am is to do what your parents did: drink to excess and abuse prescription medication. The millennials will always lose! Do you hear me, Amy?
 
2013-12-03 06:44:14 PM

gilgigamesh: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Assuming TFA is even real, the subject does have depression, and that can seriously fark a person up in a million ways.

Strip clubs are always hiring.

And if she's crying while she shakes it, I'll pay extra.


Obligatory.

Best song ever done on a Casio keyboard.
 
2013-12-03 06:44:34 PM
I must be some kind of an asshole.  I was just pondering the other day when I can get my kid to start doing her own laundry.  She's only 2, so I'm guessing I need to wait a bit.
 
2013-12-03 06:48:06 PM
I've hired 3 millennial in the last year or so.  I've yet to have any issues with entitlement or not being able to take criticism.

Something tells me there's some confirmation bias going on in this thread.  "Look! Look, here's someone who fits the stereotype!"
 
2013-12-03 06:49:59 PM

gilgigamesh: Strip clubs are always hiring.

And if she's crying while she shakes it, I'll pay extra.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN29X2HCKpU
 
2013-12-03 06:50:29 PM

Klippoklondike: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate

This sounds exactly like two millennials I have working for me right now, fresh out of grad school.

maybe it's you?

:-D

No, I don't think I forced them to cry at the drop of a hat, getting defensive and weepy literally every time anyone says something to them that isn't praise.  I wasn't even in the room, actually.

How do people like that get a job in the first place?  DId they not have interviews?


They bring their parents to the interview.
 
2013-12-03 06:52:30 PM

ShawnDoc: I've hired 3 millennial in the last year or so.  I've yet to have any issues with entitlement or not being able to take criticism.

Something tells me there's some confirmation bias going on in this thread.  "Look! Look, here's someone who fits the stereotype!"


I think the concept of lumping people into generations is flawed from the start.  Technically I am a millennial, though I don't resemble anything that millennials are known for.
 
2013-12-03 06:57:57 PM
I got to "her case is becoming the norm for twenty to thirty somethings..." And stopped reading right there.

Becoming more common does not equal "the norm".
 
2013-12-03 06:58:43 PM

Klippoklondike: I think the concept of lumping people into generations is flawed from the start.  Technically I am a millennial, though I don't resemble anything that millennials are known for.


It worked better when there was a actual baby boom.  Baby Boomers were very close in age and grew up with very similar traits. With their children (Generation X) it was less defined because baby boomers had kids at different times.  Gen-Y/Millennials are even less defined as the distribution has completely spread out.

I imagine the millennials will be the last defined generation, other than hacks trying to make one up (CNN?)
 
2013-12-03 06:58:54 PM

Ambivalence: I got to "her case is becoming the norm for twenty to thirty somethings..." And stopped reading right there.

Becoming more common does not equal "the norm".


Then you missed the part where Amy got herself a girlfriend.
 
2013-12-03 06:58:59 PM

El_Frijole_Blanco: SundaesChild: I'm going through this with my daughter who is 19 and refuses to join the "grown up" world.  If she continues on with this when she is 30 I might kill us all.

My 20 year old is the same way and all this time I thought being an asshole would make her want to find a job and a place


My advice to both of you is twofold:,

1) Start worrying when they're 25 and they're still living with Mom & Dad.
2) Ask them for a copy of their resume, and hand them out to anyone who'll take them, even if it's not in their field. Don't stop asking for the resume until you have it, be nasty if you have to. Hell, sit them down and make them type it in front of you if you have to.

When I was 24, I had graduated college, was lazy, only wanted to play video games and hang out with my friends, and my parents wanted to kill me on a daily basis. My dad was always up my ass about job applications,, resumes, etc.. One day, I finally saw the future if I didn't do something. That future sucked balls.

Ten years later (today), I'm married with my own home and a great job.
 
2013-12-03 06:59:27 PM

downstairs: TFA:  People in their 20s no longer view themselves as adults

I'm 38 and I don't consider myself an adult.

/But in a good way


I'm 45, and I spend most of my time farking and playing video games. laundry? that's something the wife does.
 
2013-12-03 06:59:35 PM
Other countries have legalized assisted suicide it might be time for the US to give it a thought.  Amy could go on a trip to the Swiss and visit Dignitas in Schwerzenbach and all of her whining and complaining will go away. She could even see the largest brothel in the country on her way out.
 
2013-12-03 06:59:56 PM

hb0mb: I must be some kind of an asshole.  I was just pondering the other day when I can get my kid to start doing her own laundry.  She's only 2, so I'm guessing I need to wait a bit.


Your last name wouldn't happen to be Gaffigan, would it?
 
2013-12-03 07:00:33 PM

Klippoklondike: ShawnDoc: I've hired 3 millennial in the last year or so.  I've yet to have any issues with entitlement or not being able to take criticism.

Something tells me there's some confirmation bias going on in this thread.  "Look! Look, here's someone who fits the stereotype!"

I think the concept of lumping people into generations is flawed from the start.  Technically I am a millennial, though I don't resemble anything that millennials are known for.


Right. I'm 30, solid middle-class office job, wife, house. The article has one Millennial in it. One data point isn't enough to draw the most basic of line graphs.

And you can find people in their 40's, 60's, whatever, that suffer from depression and have the same sort of problems described in TFA.
 
2013-12-03 07:03:49 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Klippoklondike: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate

This sounds exactly like two millennials I have working for me right now, fresh out of grad school.

maybe it's you?

:-D

No, I don't think I forced them to cry at the drop of a hat, getting defensive and weepy literally every time anyone says something to them that isn't praise.  I wasn't even in the room, actually.

How do people like that get a job in the first place?  DId they not have interviews?

Don't get me started.


ever have someone cry during an interview? Awkward...
 
2013-12-03 07:05:36 PM

mainstreet62: El_Frijole_Blanco: SundaesChild: I'm going through this with my daughter who is 19 and refuses to join the "grown up" world.  If she continues on with this when she is 30 I might kill us all.

My 20 year old is the same way and all this time I thought being an asshole would make her want to find a job and a place

My advice to both of you is twofold:,

1) Start worrying when they're 25 and they're still living with Mom & Dad.
2) Ask them for a copy of their resume, and hand them out to anyone who'll take them, even if it's not in their field. Don't stop asking for the resume until you have it, be nasty if you have to. Hell, sit them down and make them type it in front of you if you have to.

When I was 24, I had graduated college, was lazy, only wanted to play video games and hang out with my friends, and my parents wanted to kill me on a daily basis. My dad was always up my ass about job applications,, resumes, etc.. One day, I finally saw the future if I didn't do something. That future sucked balls.

Ten years later (today), I'm married with my own home and a great job.


Screw that...

When I was a DoD Contractor, one of the enlisted guys told me his plan for his kids...

"Son, this is your plate.  When you turn 18, I am breaking your plate.  Go to college, enlist, get a job...whatever you have to do, do it, but you can't stay here."
 
2013-12-03 07:06:04 PM
"...Amy had mild depression growing up..."

since the world was a perpetual sequence of disappointments, because her parents had taught her by the ripe age of 2 that she was special, that everything she did was special, and if she wanted anything she just had to believe in it with all her heart like the girl in the Disney movie.
 
2013-12-03 07:07:35 PM
Christ, I just read to the end part " .... and got a girlfriend."   So she's gay too?   How more narcissistic can you get ?
 
2013-12-03 07:07:44 PM

Klippoklondike: How do people like that get a job in the first place?  DId they not have interviews?


I just started a new management job last month and one of our division's employees finished his Master's in IT Management last May.  Since he had no work experience at all (none - this guy didn't even cut lawns growing up) and no internships, the best he could do was getting a job as a senior help desk tech on our client support team.  He dropped a brand new Macbook Pro last week, cracked the screen, and teared up because he thought he was either going to be fired or the company was going to charge him for it.

I'm not in his chain of command, but I took pity and called his director and explained they'd have to do a non-warranty repair because of an accident.  It was no big deal, and I explained that to the employee.  Even after that, he was so vocal about it "being the worst thing that's ever happened to me" that even the other millennials at the help desk started chattering.

I saw him this week and asked him if they repaired the Macbook, and he said yes.  Then he said, "If they would just make me a manager stuff like that wouldn't happen."  I'll admit it took me a full 20 seconds to work through the logic as he sees it, but I finally figured it out:  he wants to be a technical manager without any technical experience, and the more they try to give him technical experience, the worse he's going to do.  W.T.F.?
 
2013-12-03 07:09:28 PM

Voiceofreason01: Benevolent Misanthrope: Klippoklondike: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Benevolent Misanthrope: Voiceofreason01: Yeah...this sounds about as real as most of the crap on Slate

This sounds exactly like two millennials I have working for me right now, fresh out of grad school.

maybe it's you?

:-D

No, I don't think I forced them to cry at the drop of a hat, getting defensive and weepy literally every time anyone says something to them that isn't praise.  I wasn't even in the room, actually.

How do people like that get a job in the first place?  DId they not have interviews?

Don't get me started.

ever have someone cry during an interview? Awkward...


No, but I have had someone stress out during the standard question set, stand up and say, "I... I just can't handle this" and scurry out of the room.
 
2013-12-03 07:09:32 PM
Life sucks, get a helmet.  NEXT!
 
2013-12-03 07:09:37 PM
In the late 1930s there was fear that the youth of America were too drunk, too sexualities and too lazy to win a war with Germany.  This type of story is as old as time...and millenials will rise to the occasion like everyone else ever has.

/dirty hippies get off my lawn!
 
2013-12-03 07:09:47 PM

mainstreet62: When I was 24, I had graduated college, was lazy, only wanted to play video games and hang out with my friends, and my parents wanted to kill me on a daily basis. My dad was always up my ass about job applications,, resumes, etc.. One day, I finally saw the future if I didn't do something. That future sucked balls.


Were you still living at home at 24?  I'd want to kill you, too.
 
2013-12-03 07:09:59 PM
I worked during high school. I graduated early and got a nice job, eventually making $15/hr in 1999 at the age of 20. Got married, divorced, other shiat, then decided I'd go to college. Got a real farking degree in mechanical engineering and still haven't worked a job since the USS Cole got bombed. At some point I crossed a line that says "Don't hire this man, he must be unmanageable if no one else hired him."

I spent all that time working hard just to reach a point where I'm probably doomed to self employment, with one boring income source supporting me while I pursue new ones. At least if I'm bored it's my own fault, I can't blame some boss in a closet for me having to trudge 2 hours to work each way where I do the same thing day after day, facing deadlines and interminable meetings.
 
2013-12-03 07:10:22 PM
I don't think anecdotes about psychotherapy patients are the best way to reach a conclusion about millions of people.
 
2013-12-03 07:10:49 PM

Delawheredad: Fark needs a PATHETIC tag!


Keyboard you owe me one...
 
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