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(Talking Points Memo)   Notre Dame: Birth control will kill our freedoms. Courts: No, it won't - dismissed. Notre Dame: Second time's the charm, right guys?   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 88
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2013-12-03 01:54:30 PM
I'm sure the students are happy to see their tuition monies put to such a wonderful use.
 
2013-12-03 02:04:31 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm sure the students are happy to see their tuition monies put to such a wonderful use.


Especially the 98% of Catholic women who will use birth control at some point in their lives.
 
2013-12-03 02:05:48 PM

Stone Meadow: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm sure the students are happy to see their tuition monies put to such a wonderful use.

Especially the 98% of Catholic women who will use birth control at some point in their lives.


Ding!  Thread's done, we can go now.  :D
 
2013-12-03 02:12:18 PM
O, so you just want to ignore the Subby's incorrect statement that totally misrepresents what's going on.  Of course you do, your Liberals.  Why bother with the truth?
 
2013-12-03 02:12:24 PM
What's nice is that 71% of all charitable donations to churches actually go to administrative costs including clergy pay.  I guess the left over money goes to lawsuits.
 
2013-12-03 02:16:27 PM

netizencain: What's nice is that 71% of all charitable donations to churches actually go to administrative costs including clergy pay.  I guess the left over money goes to lawsuits.


So give your money to Planned Parenthood, we know what they do with it.
 
2013-12-03 02:24:26 PM

HoustonNick: netizencain: What's nice is that 71% of all charitable donations to churches actually go to administrative costs including clergy pay.  I guess the left over money goes to lawsuits.

So give your money to Planned Parenthood, we know what they do with it.


Yep, we do indeed!

www.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-12-03 02:41:33 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: HoustonNick: netizencain: What's nice is that 71% of all charitable donations to churches actually go to administrative costs including clergy pay.  I guess the left over money goes to lawsuits.

So give your money to Planned Parenthood, we know what they do with it.

Yep, we do indeed!

[www.washingtonpost.com image 606x381]


And your point is??????
 
2013-12-03 02:51:16 PM

HoustonNick: O, so you just want to ignore the Subby's incorrect statement that totally misrepresents what's going on.  Of course you do, your Liberals.  Why bother with the truth?


Why do you ever leave WND for something like Fark?
 
2013-12-03 03:10:38 PM

HoustonNick: your Liberals


My/our/your liberals what?

If you're going to be picky about the truth, then please be picky about your grammar at the same time.
 
2013-12-03 03:24:12 PM

Literally Addicted: HoustonNick: your Liberals

My/our/your liberals what?

If you're going to be picky about the truth, then please be picky about your grammar at the same time.


So what, the truth hurt or something.
 
2013-12-03 03:27:30 PM

HoustonNick: Grand_Moff_Joseph: HoustonNick: netizencain: What's nice is that 71% of all charitable donations to churches actually go to administrative costs including clergy pay.  I guess the left over money goes to lawsuits.

So give your money to Planned Parenthood, we know what they do with it.

Yep, we do indeed!

[www.washingtonpost.com image 606x381]

And your point is??????


Depends on whether you are trolling or not.

If (TrollCheck = True)
   {
   Chart was posted to refute your unstated implication that all PP will do with the money is abort a zillion      babies;
   }
Else
   {
   Chart was posted to add relevant information to the thread;
   }
 
2013-12-03 03:30:55 PM
Since the church of Notre dame point of contention on providing health insurance rests on their desire that all employee sex result in pregnancy  and a child and any effort to change that is against their teaching there is a simply monthly work around. Notre dame just has to pay the average monthly cost of raising a child instead to female employees, around $1157 a month instead of the less than $20 a month BC would run as part of an employee's normal compensation package.
 
2013-12-03 03:32:51 PM

eurotrader: Since the church of Notre dame point of contention on providing health insurance rests on their desire that all employee sex result in pregnancy  and a child and any effort to change that is against their teaching there is a simply monthly work around. Notre dame just has to pay the average monthly cost of raising a child instead to female employees, around $1157 a month instead of the less than $20 a month BC would run as part of an employee's normal compensation package.


Or Notre Dame just has to stop hiring whores.
 
2013-12-03 03:34:25 PM

HoustonNick: So what, the truth hurt or something.


No, I just find your grammar more offensive than your political views.  Poorly spelled arguments come off sounding more like redneck rhetoric than well-thought opinions.
 
2013-12-03 04:04:18 PM
Let me guess... the previous lawsuit was dismissed on ripeness grounds?

(clickety)

"The present regulatory requirement isn't sufficiently final for review to be ripe because the defendants have announced it will be modified and have underscored that announcement by providing Notre Dame with a safe harbor that protects it from the regulation as it exists today. Notre Dame lacks standing to attack the present regulatory requirement because it isn't subject to that requirement, and, taking the defendants at their word, never will be subject to the present regulation. The defendants' dismissal motion must granted."

Ding. So, they're refiling, because deadlines are getting close, and it's not clear how (or for that matter, if) they're going to continue being exempt.

And, well, because "Fighting Irish".
 
2013-12-03 04:04:51 PM
You know, maybe Frankie needs to have a talk with his US employees , maybe see if they got the memo he sent out last week because they seem to be using the incorrect coversheet for their TPS reports
 
2013-12-03 04:09:05 PM
Although it would never happen, I would love to see the new Pope to come out in favor of condom and contraceptive use.

This would have the dual purpose of protecting the church from lawsuits when an alter boy inevitably gets an STD from a priest.
 
2013-12-03 04:21:41 PM

bdub77: Although it would never happen, I would love to see the new Pope to come out in favor of condom and contraceptive use.

This would have the dual purpose of protecting the church from lawsuits when an alter boy inevitably gets an STD from a priest.


He's lightened up the focus on birth control.
 
2013-12-03 04:54:32 PM

HoustonNick: O, so you just want to ignore the Subby's incorrect statement that totally misrepresents what's going on.  Of course you do, your Liberals.  Why bother with the truth?


My Liberals?
 
2013-12-03 04:54:32 PM

Literally Addicted: HoustonNick: your Liberals

My/our/your liberals what?

If you're going to be picky about the truth, then please be picky about your grammar at the same time.


I love you.
 
2013-12-03 05:29:45 PM
They may take our rights but they will never take our IMAGINARY GIRLFRIENDS!

So go out there and win this one for the Rudy's Canadian cousin  "The Gipper" that you totally do all the time but weou wouldn't know her or have met her personally as we were in class at the multiple times it has happened in our dorm!

YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

*sound of players storming out on the field*
 
2013-12-03 05:30:15 PM
maybe the court just needs to say 'no' a little louder next time?
 
2013-12-03 05:46:41 PM
That's right conservatives, punish those sluts! Make rape and child labor the central focus of your campaign.
 
2013-12-03 05:46:57 PM

HoustonNick: netizencain: What's nice is that 71% of all charitable donations to churches actually go to administrative costs including clergy pay.  I guess the left over money goes to lawsuits.

So give your you're money to Planned Parenthood, we know what they do with it.


fixed
 
2013-12-03 05:47:00 PM
go lose another championship notre dame
 
2013-12-03 05:47:55 PM
Let's hear it for the Fighting Social Conservatives!

They deserve to lose a lawsuit over their stupid mascot, too.
 
2013-12-03 05:52:07 PM
If you cannot afford condoms, socially you do not deserve sex. You're a poor choice for a mate who should probably be eaten by a random predator. Stop trying to "fail up."
 
2013-12-03 05:55:37 PM
Can't wait for all these "libertarians" to get their panties in a wad that the State of Texas is imposing their religious morals down upon private enterprise by demanding that all liquor stores close on Sundays.   I'm tired of having to remember to stock up on Saturday in prepperation for football Sundays.

Oh that's right, they just call themselves "libertarian", but they're really just socially conservative straight line Republican voters who are embarrassed to admit they voted for Dubya (twice).
 
2013-12-03 06:04:40 PM
My employer's religious freedoms are more important than mine.
 
2013-12-03 06:07:57 PM

Terrible Old Man: If you cannot afford condoms, socially you do not deserve sex. You're a poor choice for a mate who should probably be eaten by a random predator. Stop trying to "fail up."


Oh, does insurance cover condoms now?
 
2013-12-03 06:08:52 PM

netizencain: What's nice is that 71% of all charitable donations to churches actually go to administrative costs including clergy pay.  I guess the left over money goes to lawsuits.


are you saying that those who work full time as clergy (it's a 24/7 job) shouldn't get paid?
 
2013-12-03 06:09:38 PM
Manti was robbed!!1!
 
2013-12-03 06:11:32 PM
Say what now?


adventureamigos.net
 
2013-12-03 06:13:17 PM

bulldg4life: My employer's religious freedoms are more important than mine.


Freedom is life's great lie. Once you accept that, in your heart, you will know peace.
 
2013-12-03 06:14:27 PM

bulldg4life: My employer's religious freedoms are more important than mine.


I never understood the logic behind employers caterwauling about religious liberty. Surely, the employer has a religious right to refuse abortion/contraception/mixed fabrics/blood transfusions/thetans, but it seems pretty obvious that that right doesn't extend to demanding everyone else adhere to your particular superstition- and if it does, where does it end? Can one corporation buy another and force it to convert? Can corporations demand their subsidiaries follow their nonsense too?
 
2013-12-03 06:15:34 PM
Just under-scores the insanity of exempting religious organizations from the nation-wide standards for employer-provided health care.  There is no rational reason to do so - when it comes to being an employer, religion doesn't enter into the equation.  They hire employees, they provide health care that meets the standards.  Dead stop.  That's it.
 
2013-12-03 06:16:56 PM

The Lizard People: I never understood the logic behind employers caterwauling about religious liberty. Surely, the employer has a religious right to refuse abortion/contraception/mixed fabrics/blood transfusions/thetans, but it seems pretty obvious that that right doesn't extend to demanding everyone else adhere to your particular superstition- and if it does, where does it end? Can one corporation buy another and force it to convert? Can corporations demand their subsidiaries follow their nonsense too?


Wait til companies owned by Jehovah's Witnesses start trying to ban blood transfusions
 
2013-12-03 06:17:03 PM

Terrible Old Man: If you cannot afford condoms, socially you do not deserve sex. You're a poor choice for a mate who should probably be eaten by a random predator. Stop trying to "fail up."


Yeah. Poor people with no money, education, or opportunity have so many other alternative activities to splashing in the shallow end of the gene pool.
 
2013-12-03 06:19:38 PM

bulldg4life: The Lizard People: I never understood the logic behind employers caterwauling about religious liberty. Surely, the employer has a religious right to refuse abortion/contraception/mixed fabrics/blood transfusions/thetans, but it seems pretty obvious that that right doesn't extend to demanding everyone else adhere to your particular superstition- and if it does, where does it end? Can one corporation buy another and force it to convert? Can corporations demand their subsidiaries follow their nonsense too?

Wait til companies owned by Jehovah's Witnesses start trying to ban blood transfusions


ZOMG SHARIA LAW
 
2013-12-03 06:23:00 PM

Terrible Old Man: If you cannot afford condoms, socially you do not deserve sex. You're a poor choice for a mate who should probably be eaten by a random predator. Stop trying to "fail up."


Who needs birth control when you've got eugenics!
 
2013-12-03 06:23:24 PM
Can we maybe take a collection or have a raffle so Drew can hire higher-quality trolls? The current crew is just pathetic.
 
2013-12-03 06:25:04 PM
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/just wanted an excuse to post this
 
2013-12-03 06:27:13 PM
Religious beliefs are to be upheld within your religious circle. If the secular law says that you must buy insurance that covers something outside your belief, then form an insurance company to be marketed to your group only. Then if everyone holds to your beliefs then none of your money goes to paying for that which you don't believe in, right?  QED, unless you don't think your group actually holds to your stated beliefs. Then you're being an asshole.

/Zarathustra forbids the eating of basilisks
//There aren't any basilisks to eat, therefore it is not wrong to eat them.
///BLASPHEMY!
 
2013-12-03 06:27:43 PM
If they don't want to abide by the law, I guess they can just shut down.

/problem solved
//And not just the contraceptive problem either.
 
2013-12-03 06:27:57 PM
Worked for the new deal, so why not.
 
2013-12-03 06:38:22 PM
I was going to ask what Republican Jesus would do, but then I thought of the Virgin Mary and realized it would just get awkward.
 
2013-12-03 06:46:11 PM
When this first "broke," wasn't there a followup story that ND's health plan already covered bc pills, and they quickly and quietly changed it so they could be MOAR OUTRAGED!!!1 ?
 
2013-12-03 06:47:10 PM
Anyone else sick to death of this nonsense?
 
2013-12-03 06:49:56 PM
They still provide boner pills, even to unmarried guys, right?
 
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