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(Cleveland Plain Dealer)   Investigation finds that harassment from other inmates helped drive Cleveland kidnapper Ariel Castro to suicide. This finding demands immediate action--like maybe declaring a beer and pizza night at the Columbus prison   (cleveland.com ) divider line
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2013-12-03 06:49:56 PM  
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2013-12-03 06:51:45 PM  

Unknown_Poltroon: Sorry.  I don't think prison should be a place where someone can essentally be punished by vigilantism.  There should be an investigation, and possible charges against the instigators.  That being said, I wont lose much sleep over this guy.


Investigated for what? Harsh language?
 
2013-12-03 06:52:55 PM  

machoprogrammer: As much as Castro was an awful human being of the worst variety, this is America. We should be above allowing mob justice anywhere, much less in prison. The prison has a duty to keep prisoners safe, and it neglected that.


In order for that pile of shiat to be safe from words, we would have had to keep him in solitary. Solitary is also cruel and would likely have led to suicide. Is this really something you want to get upset over?
 
2013-12-03 06:53:53 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Jeng: Would it be wrong to sell the corpses of executed prisoners to dog food companies

A lot of cultures believe that if you eat the flesh of your enemies you absorb their powers.


I apparently have cow-like powers.
 
2013-12-03 06:54:37 PM  

thurstonxhowell: machoprogrammer: As much as Castro was an awful human being of the worst variety, this is America. We should be above allowing mob justice anywhere, much less in prison. The prison has a duty to keep prisoners safe, and it neglected that.

In order for that pile of shiat to be safe from words, we would have had to keep him in solitary. Solitary is also cruel and would likely have led to suicide. Is this really something you want to get upset over?


Yes. It doesn't matter who it is, the prison has a duty to protect inmates from others and themselves.
 
2013-12-03 06:56:15 PM  

Alonjar: shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being.

[Citation needed]


The first women were kidnapped and kept in a cave to have our children. He just tapped into our rich ancestral need to lock women up in dark places and force them to have our children.[citation needed]

The reason the women didn't escape is because they secretly want to be locked up in caves.

Are we not hypocrites for deriding an essential aspect of the first civilization started by men?

Doesn't that make us the real monsters?

/The answer is, no.
 
2013-12-03 06:56:21 PM  

HairBolus: I can never understand the sick farks who cheer prison violence and think prison rape is funny and deserved.

Probably the same sorts who cheered lynchings.


Not that I am saying lynching is right. Because I'm not saying that. But some people have it coming. Regardless of who gives it to them.


if there was any reasonable doubt about this guy being guilty I could understand being upset about it.

fark that asshole. My only hope is that he died in pain.
 
2013-12-03 06:57:32 PM  

spamdog: It was his final act of control.


This.
 
2013-12-03 07:01:08 PM  
Does anyone really care why he killed himself?
 
2013-12-03 07:01:43 PM  
teenage mutant ninja rapist: HairBolus: I can never understand the sick farks who cheer prison violence and think prison rape is funny and deserved.

Probably the same sorts who cheered lynchings.

Not that I am saying lynching is right. Because I'm not saying that. But some people have it coming. Regardless of who gives it to them.

Which is exactly what the people who cheered on lynchings thought.
 
2013-12-03 07:02:19 PM  

GRCooper: I_Am_Weasel: I'd say "Good", but it's not good.

It would be much better if he stayed alive and had to endure those taunts and harassment.    He's now "at peace" and being at peace isn't what he deserved.

I'll reserve my "good" until I hear what 'his' 3 girls think. If they feel better knowing he's dead: good.


Their opinion on the matter is irrelevant.
 
2013-12-03 07:03:57 PM  

zimbomba63: Someone please cue the sad trombone.


Here you go!
 
2013-12-03 07:05:16 PM  

Sun Khan: shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being. What kind of sick website is this where people come just to make cruel comments about the deceased? You people are the problem.

[img.photobucket.com image 594x382]


Unless you say nigtard in a drunken stupor when making light of kris kross' half-death then suddenly you're no longer welcomed at fark...
 
2013-12-03 07:09:05 PM  

Snarfangel: Sin_City_Superhero: Jeng: Would it be wrong to sell the corpses of executed prisoners to dog food companies

A lot of cultures believe that if you eat the flesh of your enemies you absorb their powers.

I apparently have cow-like powers.


You sound content.
 
2013-12-03 07:09:25 PM  

abhorrent1: Does anyone really care why he killed himself?


Only in the way that I don't think jailhouse justice should drive inmates to suicide.  Doesn't look like this was the case beyond snide stuff being said to him.

Speaks volumes that such petty torment sent him over the edge while the three girls endured indefinite detainment for a decade enduring horrific physical, sexual, and mental abuse.  He couldn't last a few weeks because people were big ol meanies to him.
 
2013-12-03 07:11:09 PM  

Snarfangel: Sin_City_Superhero: Jeng: Would it be wrong to sell the corpses of executed prisoners to dog food companies

A lot of cultures believe that if you eat the flesh of your enemies you absorb their powers.

I apparently have cow-like powers.


Well, I have heard about your prowess when it comes to methane emissions.
 
2013-12-03 07:11:36 PM  

machoprogrammer: As much as Castro was an awful human being of the worst variety, this is America. We should be above allowing mob justice anywhere, much less in prison. The prison has a duty to keep prisoners safe, and it neglected that.


What do you mean?

Has USA at any point in its history been different?

Have you ever done shiat to make it different?


I thought not, but keep going USA, USA, USA....
 
2013-12-03 07:13:15 PM  

WTP 2: some can't live in a world of themselves.


/yep, what if everyone in the world was like you.


I'd always be getting free BJs. Wait, is that weird, cause now I think that sounds weird.
 
2013-12-03 07:16:53 PM  

Brick-House: Hero tag for the inmates


Seconded.  And I'd send a 6 pack of Bayern Doppelbock if someone can arrange the beer and pizza party.
 
2013-12-03 07:17:40 PM  

shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being. What kind of sick website is this where people come just to make cruel comments about the deceased? You people are the problem.


THIS was not a human.

A sociopathic hairless ape, maybe.

Not human.
 
2013-12-03 07:18:49 PM  

spawn73: GRCooper: I_Am_Weasel: I'd say "Good", but it's not good.

It would be much better if he stayed alive and had to endure those taunts and harassment.    He's now "at peace" and being at peace isn't what he deserved.

I'll reserve my "good" until I hear what 'his' 3 girls think. If they feel better knowing he's dead: good.

Their opinion on the matter is irrelevant.


Well, since their opinion is not irrelevant to me, your well thought out and lucid statement is completely wrong.

Thanks for playing.
 
2013-12-03 07:20:35 PM  

IRQ12: abhorrent1: Does anyone really care why he killed himself?

Only in the way that I don't think jailhouse justice should drive inmates to suicide.  Doesn't look like this was the case beyond snide stuff being said to him.

Speaks volumes that such petty torment sent him over the edge while the three girls endured indefinite detainment for a decade enduring horrific physical, sexual, and mental abuse.  He couldn't last a few weeks because people were big ol meanies to him.


Yup. Turns out he couldn't take even a fraction of what he dished out to his victims.

I'm pretty comfortable with the punishment matching the crime. Yet he was being looked after better than he looked after his victims, and he wasn't even raped daily they way they were. I'd say he got off lightly.
 
2013-12-03 07:21:32 PM  

shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being. What kind of sick website is this where people come just to make cruel comments about the deceased? You people are the problem.


fark that. Anyone who commits such a horrendous crime ceases to count as a human being. Period.

Just like i have zero sympathy for people who get shot while in the act of committing a crime. If you're going to do something you know might get you killed and do it anyway, it's your own damn fault, and I won't waste one ounce of pity for you.

But, getting back to Ariel Castro, fark 'em, and everyone like him, and anyone who would sympathize with a piece of shiat like that. They are abhorrent degenerate mistakes of the species that need to simply be removed from the gene pool lest they continue to suck resources from the rest of us and serve no other benefit to society. In fact, society's better off.
 
2013-12-03 07:25:23 PM  
He commuted his own prison term to the death penalty. They should have taken away his sheets so he couldn't do that. I would pray that he would live for 200 years and suffer every. single. day.
 
2013-12-03 07:34:07 PM  
I guess we'll all just have to learn to live with that knowledge.
 
2013-12-03 07:36:11 PM  

Bslim: Warlordtrooper: HairBolus: I can never understand the sick farks who cheer prison violence and think prison rape is funny and deserved.

Probably the same sorts who cheered lynchings.

Its what real rape culture looks like.  Rape is bad except when it occurs in prison.  Then its justified.

Closeted degenerates is what they are.  This lets them indulge their sick little rape fantasies.


Sounds like your sick fantasy is to decide whose fantasies are sick and judge them. That sounds like a pretty sick fantasy to me. You should get help.

I on the other hand am perfect, and perfectly normal, because my only fantisy involves whispering sweet nothings into my life long monogamous partner's ear while we sit fully clothed and hold (gloved) hands as the sun sets in paradise. I bet your fantasy doesn't involve gloves, you farking perv.
 
2013-12-03 07:36:44 PM  

shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being. What kind of sick website is this where people come just to make cruel comments about the deceased? You people are the problem.


10/10 you got lots of bites.
 
2013-12-03 07:39:00 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: mediablitz: Do they give tours to piss on his grave?

For-profit pissin'?


It worked for the Romans...
 
2013-12-03 07:40:36 PM  
I really hope that harassment included rape, lots and lots of rape. Like a constant never-ending stream of rape and beatings. I have zero farking sympathy for human scum like him.
 
2013-12-03 07:47:50 PM  

machoprogrammer: thurstonxhowell: machoprogrammer: As much as Castro was an awful human being of the worst variety, this is America. We should be above allowing mob justice anywhere, much less in prison. The prison has a duty to keep prisoners safe, and it neglected that.

In order for that pile of shiat to be safe from words, we would have had to keep him in solitary. Solitary is also cruel and would likely have led to suicide. Is this really something you want to get upset over?

Yes. It doesn't matter who it is, the prison has a duty to protect inmates from others and themselves.


And how exactly then would that have worked, just to be the mean and nasty biatch I can be? After all, nobody actually harmed Castro--they just harassed and taunted him until he killed himself. So by your logic, the prison should have kept him in solitary, so nobody could be mean to him. Yet in solitary, Castro could well have become depressed, and even suicidal. Then what is the prison supposed to do? Let him out again? Strap him down 24/7 so he couldn't kill himself?

If this guy couldn't handle other people reminding him constantly of what an awful human being he was, then he wouldn't survive being locked away by himself; so he's probably better off dead.
 
2013-12-03 07:55:46 PM  

shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being. What kind of sick website is this where people come just to make cruel comments about the deceased? You people are the problem.


He was genetically, anatomically, and physiologically human, yes.

No fully human being could do what he did, though. I feel no pity for him, and also wish he had lived linger to endure taunts and bad food. All the more because him doing that to others is the reason he was in jail.
 
2013-12-03 07:56:07 PM  

shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being. What kind of sick website is this where people come just to make cruel comments about the deceased? You people are the problem.


The world is not ready for you.

Unless you were being snarky, in which case -you're the best.
 
2013-12-03 07:56:58 PM  

Slagnasty: I really hope that harassment included rape, lots and lots of rape. Like a constant never-ending stream of rape and beatings. I have zero farking sympathy for human scum like him.


You said rape three times.
 
2013-12-03 08:00:18 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Brick-House: Hero tag for the inmates

not at all.  we should never encourage or praise this type of behavior.  if this is wrong outside of prison then it is also wrong inside of prison.


They taunted him. It's not like they killed him. I would hardly say this was min or inmate justice. This is the action of a narcissist realizing that he is a piece of worthless crap. They never respond well to that realization.
 
2013-12-03 08:02:04 PM  

shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being. What kind of sick website is this where people come just to make cruel comments about the deceased? You people are the problem.


You should really avoid the Paul Walker threads then. And he didn't even kidnap anyone, he just made somewhat bad movies.

/Very nice hook
//A+++++++ would read again
 
2013-12-03 08:14:37 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: I_Am_Weasel: It would be much better if he stayed alive and had to endure those taunts and harassment. He's now "at peace" and being at peace isn't what he deserved.

If you believe in reincarnation and karma, he's been reborn as someone who will live their entire life as a neglected sex slave.


This is why belief in karma is farking crazy.

By that very logic, his victims deserved to be there. Or does karma only ever apply to things that make you feel good?
 
2013-12-03 08:18:24 PM  
Say whatever you want... But if it was my daughter that had been the victim, and I wasn't able to deal an eye for an eye, I don't care who deals out the justice. It's karma.

It's strange how humanity manifests itself even amongst convicted convicts. Consider, if a felon is convicted of killing or otherwise abusing another convict, their sentence is extended. Win win.
 
2013-12-03 08:20:02 PM  

machoprogrammer: As much as Castro was an awful human being of the worst variety, this is America. We should be above allowing mob justice anywhere, much less in prison. The prison has a duty to keep prisoners safe, and it neglected that.


I agree.

But at the same time....

Killing is wrong, but some folk just need killing. Like a rabid dog has to be shot dead before it gets near anyone.
 
2013-12-03 08:21:47 PM  

Kibbles: Say whatever you want... But if it was my daughter that had been the victim, and I wasn't able to deal an eye for an eye, I don't care who deals out the justice. It's karma.

It's strange how humanity manifests itself even amongst convicted convicts. Consider, if a felon is convicted of killing or otherwise abusing another convict, their sentence is extended. Win win.


If Karma deals with him, Karma put his victims there. Karma is the most idiotic of all the religious concepts. Unless this is the first pass-through of the universe for those girls' "souls" then they must have done something in a previous life to deserve their suffering.

/Karma: A feel good term used by people who can't think.
 
2013-12-03 08:22:01 PM  
Saves the cost, can't complain.
 
2013-12-03 08:22:39 PM  

LavenderWolf: J. Frank Parnell: I_Am_Weasel: It would be much better if he stayed alive and had to endure those taunts and harassment. He's now "at peace" and being at peace isn't what he deserved.

If you believe in reincarnation and karma, he's been reborn as someone who will live their entire life as a neglected sex slave.

This is why belief in karma is farking crazy.

By that very logic, his victims deserved to be there. Or does karma only ever apply to things that make you feel good?


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-12-03 08:28:59 PM  

LavenderWolf: This is why belief in karma is farking crazy.

By that very logic, his victims deserved to be there.


Yes, but by suffering through it they get a clean slate for the next life.

When you consider hundreds or even thousands of lives, the single life we get so focused on, and any pain and suffering, is really minor. Everything is fair in the end, but individual lives may not seem like it sometimes.
 
2013-12-03 08:28:59 PM  

LavenderWolf: Kibbles: Say whatever you want... But if it was my daughter that had been the victim, and I wasn't able to deal an eye for an eye, I don't care who deals out the justice. It's karma.

It's strange how humanity manifests itself even amongst convicted convicts. Consider, if a felon is convicted of killing or otherwise abusing another convict, their sentence is extended. Win win.

If Karma deals with him, Karma put his victims there. Karma is the most idiotic of all the religious concepts. Unless this is the first pass-through of the universe for those girls' "souls" then they must have done something in a previous life to deserve their suffering.

/Karma: A feel good term used by people who can't think.


One could say the same thing about any organized religious belief. I'll take karma simply on the basis that I don't have a god but believe there's something out there that ties us all together. Even you and I, punkin'
 
2013-12-03 08:33:03 PM  

mediablitz: J. Frank Parnell: I_Am_Weasel: It would be much better if he stayed alive and had to endure those taunts and harassment. He's now "at peace" and being at peace isn't what he deserved.

If you believe in reincarnation and karma, he's been reborn as someone who will live their entire life as a neglected sex slave.

What would he have been in the life previous to this one, to "come back" as a psychopathic serial rapist?


A saintly priest?  No snark, I'm just thinking of the opposite of a psychopathic serial rapist, and that would be a reserved, chaste, helpful person. Perhaps he couldn't help one crazed person, and he struggled with it so much that his tortured soul needed to live as a psychopath in order to understand.

But does reincarnation work like that, where you come back as the opposite/complement to another life?  If bad karma means you have a bad reincarnation, like say a stone or a bug that eats crap, then all the bad people would eventually go away, right?
 
2013-12-03 08:33:56 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: LavenderWolf: This is why belief in karma is farking crazy.

By that very logic, his victims deserved to be there.

Yes, but by suffering through it they get a clean slate for the next life.

When you consider hundreds or even thousands of lives, the single life we get so focused on, and any pain and suffering, is really minor. Everything is fair in the end, but individual lives may not seem like it sometimes.


So then he didn't actually do anything wrong. He doled out punishment as per the universe's wishes.

The more critically you examine the concept of Karma the more it falls apart.
 
2013-12-03 08:34:07 PM  
I say we need an indiegogo fundraiser to send beer and pizza to the inmates.
 
2013-12-03 08:34:42 PM  

Kibbles: LavenderWolf: Kibbles: Say whatever you want... But if it was my daughter that had been the victim, and I wasn't able to deal an eye for an eye, I don't care who deals out the justice. It's karma.

It's strange how humanity manifests itself even amongst convicted convicts. Consider, if a felon is convicted of killing or otherwise abusing another convict, their sentence is extended. Win win.

If Karma deals with him, Karma put his victims there. Karma is the most idiotic of all the religious concepts. Unless this is the first pass-through of the universe for those girls' "souls" then they must have done something in a previous life to deserve their suffering.

/Karma: A feel good term used by people who can't think.

One could say the same thing about any organized religious belief. I'll take karma simply on the basis that I don't have a god but believe there's something out there that ties us all together. Even you and I, punkin'


What you wish to be true has no bearing on what is actually true.
 
2013-12-03 08:35:08 PM  

scottydoesntknow: 24.media.tumblr.com


And Dogbert will deserve every bit of his next life. People often like to think of karma without reincarnation, and it's the real punchline.
 
2013-12-03 08:37:04 PM  

child_god: mediablitz: J. Frank Parnell: I_Am_Weasel: It would be much better if he stayed alive and had to endure those taunts and harassment. He's now "at peace" and being at peace isn't what he deserved.

If you believe in reincarnation and karma, he's been reborn as someone who will live their entire life as a neglected sex slave.

What would he have been in the life previous to this one, to "come back" as a psychopathic serial rapist?

A saintly priest?  No snark, I'm just thinking of the opposite of a psychopathic serial rapist, and that would be a reserved, chaste, helpful person. Perhaps he couldn't help one crazed person, and he struggled with it so much that his tortured soul needed to live as a psychopath in order to understand.

But does reincarnation work like that, where you come back as the opposite/complement to another life?  If bad karma means you have a bad reincarnation, like say a stone or a bug that eats crap, then all the bad people would eventually go away, right?


I don't think (or hope) that it works that way. Although the obvious platitudes "everything happens for a reason" and "one door opens when another closes" are still just as offensive to me.

/don't believe in reincarnation.
//I don't judge anyone that does.
 
2013-12-03 08:38:48 PM  

shanrick: For god's sake, people. A man is dead. It doesn't matter what he did, he was still a human being. What kind of sick website is this where people come just to make cruel comments about the deceased? You people are the problem.


Uh oh.  You found me out.  I am the problem.  But, you know, at least I'm not the Situation, then I'd be a real dick.  And from Jersey.  With a tan.
 
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