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2013-12-03 07:40:20 PM

eddievercetti: Eagles are 10?

Ummmm...that was unexpected.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x281]

So...yeah, we need to win or the Cowboys need to lose. Nuff said really.


You just know it's going to come down to week 17.
 
2013-12-03 07:40:21 PM

SenorBenedict: RminusQ: robsul82: For providing proof positive that dreams never die, for showing us that no perpetual bridesmaid should ever be given up on for this award, for scoring a 66.7 against the Indianapolis Colts, I am proud to present The Jake for Week 13 of the 2013 NFL season to Ryan Fitzpatrick of the Tennessee Titans.

[looks through my records]

How the fark has Hahvahd Yahd never won a Jake until now?

Yeah seriously, when that clown started for the bills it felt like all he did was throw freaking picks.


Most likely due to <insert Browns QB here> and Mr. Buttfumble
 
2013-12-03 07:43:08 PM
Hmm. Clayton just went on ESPN radio and said the 1-year susp for Browner is off the table and that Browner is pushing to be reduced to just a fine.

I doubt that will happen, but 4-gamer seems right.
 
2013-12-03 07:46:57 PM

Shame Us: Hmm. Clayton just went on ESPN radio and said the 1-year susp for Browner is off the table and that Browner is pushing to be reduced to just a fine.

I doubt that will happen, but 4-gamer seems right.


I could see it going away, what with every other substance abuse "positive" being a result of not taking a test for a league that didn't employ him. Really is crazy that the NFL can test other leagues' athletes. I mean, it makes sense in baseball since the affiliates are just that, affiliates. But the CFL has nothing to do with the NFL, basically.

It'd be like you or I getting banned from Fark for swearing on Reddit.
 
2013-12-03 07:47:44 PM
Of course, now that the league has been reminded of how the SeaHulks play without Browner, they might be more than happy to get him back in the lineup.
 
2013-12-03 07:51:34 PM

ShadowKamui: SenorBenedict: RminusQ: robsul82: For providing proof positive that dreams never die, for showing us that no perpetual bridesmaid should ever be given up on for this award, for scoring a 66.7 against the Indianapolis Colts, I am proud to present The Jake for Week 13 of the 2013 NFL season to Ryan Fitzpatrick of the Tennessee Titans.

[looks through my records]

How the fark has Hahvahd Yahd never won a Jake until now?

Yeah seriously, when that clown started for the bills it felt like all he did was throw freaking picks.

Most likely due to <insert Browns QB here> and Mr. Buttfumble


So a bills player couldn't even fark something up correctly. Way to go Havahd you god damned clown.
 
2013-12-03 07:56:12 PM

IAmRight: Shame Us: Hmm. Clayton just went on ESPN radio and said the 1-year susp for Browner is off the table and that Browner is pushing to be reduced to just a fine.

I doubt that will happen, but 4-gamer seems right.

I could see it going away, what with every other substance abuse "positive" being a result of not taking a test for a league that didn't employ him. Really is crazy that the NFL can test other leagues' athletes. I mean, it makes sense in baseball since the affiliates are just that, affiliates. But the CFL has nothing to do with the NFL, basically.

It'd be like you or I getting banned from Fark for swearing on Reddit.


It's an interesting situation. Had Browner never been escalated to Phase 2, which is the 4-game susp. level, and also the crux of his argument - that he never even should have been in Phase 2 because he was playing in Canada - his 2 years of clean tests (over 200 of them) would have him out of the Substance Abuse protocol all together, thus this positive test would result in a fine and no one ever hearing about it and being put back in Phase 1 again. Of course, the no one ever hearing about it thing is predicated on the NFL not leaking false info to its own reporters...who are somehow not subject to the rules that the rest of the league has to abide by when it comes to leaking confidential drug test info.
 
2013-12-03 08:03:57 PM

SenorBenedict: So a bills player couldn't even fark something up correctly. Way to go Havahd you god damned clown.


A quick look at pro-football-reference tells me that in the Jake Era, Fitzy has had two 4-INT games, both against the Pats, in 2011-17 and 2012-04. The first of those, he lost a decision to Josh Freeman; the latter, he was beaten out by Big T in Big D's 5-interception virtuoso performance.
 
2013-12-03 08:04:48 PM

Shame Us: By different metrics, it was either his worst game since 2006 or his worst game since 2003. All that without throwing a single pick too.


I started Brees (7.78pts) and Burleson (0.00pts) and still won. Secured a playoff spot! Thanks alshon jeffery, all day, a late pick-up of the miami D, and my very last minute bench of jordan reed for zach miller!

robsul82: The old dreams were good dreams.  They didn't work out, but Ryan Fitzpatrick was glad he had them.


Great work, as always, but I liked that transition so much that I had to mention it. Beautiful.

mikaloyd: The Saints could use a blocker right now


Packers too. But it's o.k. - ARod is coming back and he'll fix everything.

/go phins!
 
2013-12-03 08:06:11 PM

harleyquinnical: IAmRight: Jesus, the Jags have a legit shot to go 7-9 with their remaining schedule. Not that they'll be favored...but they could beat all those teams.

It is within the realm of possibility that the Jaguars make the wild card at 7-9, which would put Bunny in a happier mood.

I can't decide if the Cardinals are too high or too low.


:::skimming the thread, sees the word Jags, stops to read:::

You're goddamned right it would make me happy!
 
2013-12-03 08:18:23 PM

harleyquinnical: Di Atribe: SOV. And I just told my boss that I haven't signed all of the Christmas cards yet because I've been just SO busy today. :D

[img.fark.net image 850x581]

Busy makin graphs maybe what whaaaaaaaaaaaat?

This puts a more fascinating visual on that state of the league right now, especially with Arizona and Detroit at the same point.


They've been basically stalking each other most of the year as I recall.
 
2013-12-03 08:27:32 PM

Shame Us: UNC_Samurai: Shame Us: harleyquinnical: Cletus C.: Cam Newton or Russell Wilson?

What a pointless argument. Most of last year I would have picked RG3 over either. Easily. Now, not so much.

It's like a mini-Brady/Manning argument. Their fan bases should just be happy they have one of them. Not having a quality quarterback puts you in football fan hell, sometimes for years and years if you miss on the draft.

You know what I'm saying, don't you Seattle?

Yes.  Yes, we do.  Two words: Rick Mirer.

Personally, I'm sick of the Newton v. Wilson debate.  I'm sick of the "Wilson is undefeated at home" trivia.  All I want at this point is a NFC Championship rematch from 2005.  Battle in Seattle Part II: Wilson Boogaloo.

Rick Mirer...Dan McGwire...Stan Gelbaugh...Jon Freisz...Trent Dilfer...

Kelly Stouffer.

Charlie Whitehurst...Tarvaris Jackson...Seneca Wallace


scientopia.org
 
2013-12-03 08:32:56 PM
Bunny Deville::::skimming the thread, sees the word Jags, stops to read:::

You're goddamned right it would make me happy!


I'm actually rooting for this to happen because I really do want Gus Bradley to succeed as a coach.  I was heartbroken when I heard he left the defensive coordinator job in Seattle for the gig in Jacksonville.  So while he's the head coach, I'll be rooting for the Jags.
 
2013-12-03 08:33:53 PM
Good to see ESPN fixed having the Patriots over the Panthers from last week.... should have been flipped then.
 
2013-12-03 08:34:05 PM

JusticeandIndependence: Rwa2play: IAmRight: Rwa2play: As I told IAmRight:  Ask Dan Marino if he wouldn't have given up part of those records to get one SB ring.

Rings still don't make you a great player. Eli is a vastly inferior QB to his brother.

Great player doesn't necessarily make you a champion. Because if that were the case then people would be putting the Malone's of the world alongside Jordan or the Bonds' of the world alongside Jeter.

Johnny Unitas has one super bowl ring.


And three NFL titles beforehand; you do realize there was a championship game before the Super Bowl right?
 
2013-12-03 08:38:53 PM

harleyquinnical: I'm actually rooting for this to happen because I really do want Gus Bradley to succeed as a coach.  I was heartbroken when I heard he left the defensive coordinator job in Seattle for the gig in Jacksonville.  So while he's the head coach, I'll be rooting for the Jags.


While heartbroken is a bit too strong a word for me, I too wish him the best of luck and hope the Jags do well as long as he's the coach!
 
2013-12-03 08:39:37 PM

robsul82: Friends,


s2.subirimagenes.com

As usual.
 
2013-12-03 08:44:50 PM

UNC_Samurai: Shame Us: harleyquinnical: Cletus C.: Cam Newton or Russell Wilson?

What a pointless argument. Most of last year I would have picked RG3 over either. Easily. Now, not so much.

It's like a mini-Brady/Manning argument. Their fan bases should just be happy they have one of them. Not having a quality quarterback puts you in football fan hell, sometimes for years and years if you miss on the draft.

You know what I'm saying, don't you Seattle?

Yes.  Yes, we do.  Two words: Rick Mirer.

Personally, I'm sick of the Newton v. Wilson debate.  I'm sick of the "Wilson is undefeated at home" trivia.  All I want at this point is a NFC Championship rematch from 2005.  Battle in Seattle Part II: Wilson Boogaloo.

Rick Mirer...Dan McGwire...Stan Gelbaugh...Jon Freisz...Trent Dilfer...

Kelly Stouffer.


Kelly farking Stouffer.  Has there been a more useless QB than him?  All the physical tools to be a QB coupled with NONE of the mental tools.
 
2013-12-03 09:11:13 PM

Primitive Screwhead: Jason Whitlock can suck my ass.


Why, what'd he say.

SenorBenedict: RminusQ: robsul82: For providing proof positive that dreams never die, for showing us that no perpetual bridesmaid should ever be given up on for this award, for scoring a 66.7 against the Indianapolis Colts, I am proud to present The Jake for Week 13 of the 2013 NFL season to Ryan Fitzpatrick of the Tennessee Titans.

[looks through my records]

How the fark has Hahvahd Yahd never won a Jake until now?

Yeah seriously, when that clown started for the bills it felt like all he did was throw freaking picks.


Yep, before this season he and Dalton just always seemed to record 50.0s when someone else would hit a 66.7, and if one of them scored a 66.7, then Cutler or Rivers would completely implode.   Just like clockwork, lol.

VogonPoet: robsul82: No, not like that. Not everyone micturates from their eyeballs, you know.

Not every day you can work that word into conversation. Or a poem.


www.forkunion.com

Everything I need to know I learned from The Big Lebowski.
 
2013-12-03 09:30:37 PM

Rwa2play: JusticeandIndependence: Rwa2play: IAmRight: Rwa2play: As I told IAmRight:  Ask Dan Marino if he wouldn't have given up part of those records to get one SB ring.

Rings still don't make you a great player. Eli is a vastly inferior QB to his brother.

Great player doesn't necessarily make you a champion. Because if that were the case then people would be putting the Malone's of the world alongside Jordan or the Bonds' of the world alongside Jeter.

Johnny Unitas has one super bowl ring.

And three NFL titles beforehand; you do realize there was a championship game before the Super Bowl right?


Those don't count according to the anti-cheeseheads, anti-Browns, etc etc
 
2013-12-03 09:31:30 PM

Rent Party: Shame Us: UNC_Samurai: Shame Us: harleyquinnical: Cletus C.: Cam Newton or Russell Wilson?

What a pointless argument. Most of last year I would have picked RG3 over either. Easily. Now, not so much.

It's like a mini-Brady/Manning argument. Their fan bases should just be happy they have one of them. Not having a quality quarterback puts you in football fan hell, sometimes for years and years if you miss on the draft.

You know what I'm saying, don't you Seattle?

Yes.  Yes, we do.  Two words: Rick Mirer.

Personally, I'm sick of the Newton v. Wilson debate.  I'm sick of the "Wilson is undefeated at home" trivia.  All I want at this point is a NFC Championship rematch from 2005.  Battle in Seattle Part II: Wilson Boogaloo.

Rick Mirer...Dan McGwire...Stan Gelbaugh...Jon Freisz...Trent Dilfer...

Kelly Stouffer.

Charlie Whitehurst...Tarvaris Jackson...Seneca Wallace

[scientopia.org image 381x253]


Rusty F'in Smith baby, only the best
 
2013-12-03 09:36:22 PM
Green Bay is too high right now.

Capers needs to go. I like the 3-4 base, but he needs to be shown the door.

As long as Aaron comes back in one piece at some point, the offense will not be the problem from that point forward. But they need to invest in the gorram o-line!
 
2013-12-03 09:49:25 PM

xaks: Green Bay is too high right now.

Capers needs to go. I like the 3-4 base, but he needs to be shown the door.

As long as Aaron comes back in one piece at some point, the offense will not be the problem from that point forward. But they need to invest in the gorram o-line!


Since I wouldn't consider the Bears "in" the race anymore, since they have to effectively be 2 games better than Detroit in the last 4 games.  Even if the Lions go 1-3, I'm not too confident the Bears can pull off 3-1... and I think Detroit at least goes 2-2 anyway.  But, given that, the Packers are in the same boat, needing to be two games better than Detroit, and, unless Rodgers is back next week, or if they pull off a win without him, I think they sit him the rest of the year at 5-7-1.
 
2013-12-03 09:50:40 PM

xaks: Green Bay is too high right now.

Capers needs to go. I like the 3-4 base, but he needs to be shown the door.

As long as Aaron comes back in one piece at some point, the offense will not be the problem from that point forward. But they need to invest in the gorram o-line!


I thought at the end of last season OL was going to be a big need.  Seems like that will be the case again after this season.
 
2013-12-03 09:57:34 PM

Rwa2play: xaks: Green Bay is too high right now.

Capers needs to go. I like the 3-4 base, but he needs to be shown the door.

As long as Aaron comes back in one piece at some point, the offense will not be the problem from that point forward. But they need to invest in the gorram o-line!

I thought at the end of last season OL was going to be a big need.  Seems like that will be the case again after this season.


For different reasons though.

Bahktiari will be a solid, long-term left tackle. He's smart and fast, and has decent feet. He understands leverage and movement. He's just raw as shiat.

They need a real center and a stud right tackle. Move ED-S back to guard backup and keep either Newhouse or Barclay as a swinger. Still not sure on Sherrod long-term..


If they draft nothing but oline and safeties next year it'll be grand.
 
2013-12-03 10:02:17 PM

xaks: Rwa2play: xaks: Green Bay is too high right now.

Capers needs to go. I like the 3-4 base, but he needs to be shown the door.

As long as Aaron comes back in one piece at some point, the offense will not be the problem from that point forward. But they need to invest in the gorram o-line!

I thought at the end of last season OL was going to be a big need.  Seems like that will be the case again after this season.

For different reasons though.

Bahktiari will be a solid, long-term left tackle. He's smart and fast, and has decent feet. He understands leverage and movement. He's just raw as shiat.

They need a real center and a stud right tackle. Move ED-S back to guard backup and keep either Newhouse or Barclay as a swinger. Still not sure on Sherrod long-term..


If they draft nothing but oline and safeties next year it'll be grand.


The Giants need a revamp at OL; that probably means Nicks is gone.  Of course, it would help if none of our key guys got hurt either in the OTAs, training camp or in preseason.
 
2013-12-03 10:07:44 PM

dletter: xaks: Green Bay is too high right now.

Capers needs to go. I like the 3-4 base, but he needs to be shown the door.

As long as Aaron comes back in one piece at some point, the offense will not be the problem from that point forward. But they need to invest in the gorram o-line!

Since I wouldn't consider the Bears "in" the race anymore, since they have to effectively be 2 games better than Detroit in the last 4 games.  Even if the Lions go 1-3, I'm not too confident the Bears can pull off 3-1... and I think Detroit at least goes 2-2 anyway.  But, given that, the Packers are in the same boat, needing to be two games better than Detroit, and, unless Rodgers is back next week, or if they pull off a win without him, I think they sit him the rest of the year at 5-7-1.


It would not surprise me if he sat out the remainder.

It's like those few folks that were talking about voting Peyton MVP when he missed the year with the neck thing. Rodgers _is_ why the Pack is relevant. His long term health is the #1 thing to think about. If he sat, I wouldn't say a bad word about it. Well, OK, a couple bad words, but only since I've gotten used to winning more than losing since 1993 or so and I kinda like it. It would suck losing the rest of this season.

But I'd be OK with it.
 
2013-12-03 10:11:05 PM

Gecko Gingrich: FuManchu7: (and the Ravens are experiencing). You tie up 1/3 of your cap in one player.

The cap was only $20.4M this year?! Daaaaaaaaaamn.


Only for the Redskins, because of that coont Mara's insistence.
 
2013-12-03 10:18:24 PM

wjllope: Great work, as always, but I liked that transition so much that I had to mention it. Beautiful.


Mental self high five on that Bridges of Madison County reference, lol.
 
2013-12-03 11:05:12 PM

Rwa2play: Considering y'all had DMac and subsequently Michael Vick, I wouldn't be crowing about Eli's competency or lack thereof.


Wait... since when is Treygreen13 an Eagles fan?
 
2013-12-03 11:17:29 PM
The thing about the mindset that says "super bowl rings matter the most" is that it is so clearly not true, at least for the actual players.

If superb owl rings really mattered that much, wouldn't it make sense for a top QB (especially one that already has a few seasons under his belt and doesn't need any extra cash) to forego his salary and allow a team to put that money toward building a championship-caliber team around him?

I'm being serious, if someone wanted it that bad, is there any reason a Peyton or a Romo couldn't take a salary of $1 per game and use the leftover money to buy a better team to go win with?
 
2013-12-03 11:25:42 PM

jimmythefly: I'm being serious, if someone wanted it that bad, is there any reason a Peyton or a Romo couldn't take a salary of $1 per game and use the leftover money to buy a better team to go win with?


While I agree with this in theory, first of all, there's obviously a minimum salary; secondly, the players' union would probably have a huge issue with said player basically submarining the value of other players.
 
rka
2013-12-03 11:38:35 PM

jimmythefly: I'm being serious, if someone wanted it that bad, is there any reason a Peyton or a Romo couldn't take a salary of $1 per game and use the leftover money to buy a better team to go win with?


Veteran's minimum for starters.

Their wives and agents for another.
 
2013-12-03 11:42:52 PM

IAmRight: jimmythefly: I'm being serious, if someone wanted it that bad, is there any reason a Peyton or a Romo couldn't take a salary of $1 per game and use the leftover money to buy a better team to go win with?

While I agree with this in theory, first of all, there's obviously a minimum salary; secondly, the players' union would probably have a huge issue with said player basically submarining the value of other players.


Plus, more importantly, agents that make a percentage of players 'income' that do the negotiating
 
2013-12-03 11:45:09 PM
Oh, yeah minimum. Does a player have to accept the minimum, or can they willingly play for less? (I'm more wondering out loud, not trying to get you to do research for me, FYI).

I would find it hilarious for the player's union to be arguing that a player has the obligation to be as greedy as possible, and to intentionally do something that sabotages his own chances of being on a more successful team. To just come right out and say it "it's about the money, not the love of winning or the game".
 
rka
2013-12-03 11:56:13 PM

jimmythefly: Oh, yeah minimum. Does a player have to accept the minimum, or can they willingly play for less? (I'm more wondering out loud, not trying to get you to do research for me, FYI).

I would find it hilarious for the player's union to be arguing that a player has the obligation to be as greedy as possible, and to intentionally do something that sabotages his own chances of being on a more successful team. To just come right out and say it "it's about the money, not the love of winning or the game".


Take $1 salary and blow out your knee in pre-season? Or have the guy you gave up your salary to blow out *his* knee? Either defeats the purpose and most of the time it's outside of your control.

I think many of these hyper-paid players (the Peytons, the Bradys, the Brees) are willing to make cap friendly contracts as much as is sanely possible. They can defer money, front load, back load..make 5 year contracts that are only year to year...whatever. All in the attempt to give the most flexibility to the cap rules.

But there are limits to anyone's "just playing for the love of the game". As I said, there is no guarantee that Peyton take the minimum and then giving the rest of the money to say...the defense, is going to guarantee a Super Bowl any more than him taking $20 million and watching Rahim Moore miss a ill-timed jump did last January.
 
2013-12-04 12:07:01 AM

rka: But there are limits to anyone's "just playing for the love of the game".


There are people out there playing for the love of the game...it's called semi-pro football, and hell, even some of them still hold out dreams of making the big time and getting a big ol' payday.

But yeah, this is relevant for the agent angle:

http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=32ksYDlj5f4
 
2013-12-04 12:15:45 AM

SilentStrider: eddievercetti: Eagles are 10?

Ummmm...that was unexpected.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x281]

So...yeah, we need to win or the Cowboys need to lose. Nuff said really.

You just know it's going to come down to week 17.


If we're lucky, the Skins could play spoiler...IF
 
2013-12-04 12:27:57 AM

eddievercetti: SilentStrider: eddievercetti: Eagles are 10?

Ummmm...that was unexpected.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x281]

So...yeah, we need to win or the Cowboys need to lose. Nuff said really.

You just know it's going to come down to week 17.

If we're lucky, the Skins could play spoiler...IF


Dudes. Really? You've seen the Redskins play this year, right?
 
2013-12-04 12:59:50 AM

Joe_diGriz: Rwa2play: Considering y'all had DMac and subsequently Michael Vick, I wouldn't be crowing about Eli's competency or lack thereof.

Wait... since when is Treygreen13 an Eagles fan?


It was news to me too. I mean both those guys DID play in Dallas, but as the visiting team.
 
2013-12-04 01:13:18 AM
robsul82: The Jake

You said it best:

"That's beautiful, man."
 
2013-12-04 04:29:29 AM

LucklessWonder: The Cowboys opponents are my 2nd favorite team as well.

/But I'm a 'Skins fan, so that's how it should be


My condolences.
 
2013-12-04 08:15:07 AM

robsul82: Primitive Screwhead: Jason Whitlock can suck my ass.

Why, what'd he say.


On PTI he spewed out : "The Seahawks have peaked too early. They have played their best football game" and then proceeded to go on about how they will now slide into being a losing team.
Mr. Whitlock also threw in "They can't win in the playoffs with Russell Wilson as quarterback"

I'm always on board with a "let's not start sucking each other's dicks, yet" mentality, "there's plenty of football left, other teams are starting to gel and get healthy guys back" and all that jazz but his outright dismissive tone really went up my ass sideways.

/yes, I'm a fan of the show, which makes me part of the problem
//where's Wilbon?
///also broke my own rule of "not taking it even a bit serious"
 
2013-12-04 08:26:25 AM
Tebow was Bing's most searched athlete of 2013. I blame Peter King entirely.
 
2013-12-04 08:30:36 AM

IAmRight: Of course, now that the league has been reminded of how the SeaHulks play without Browner, they might be more than happy to get him back in the lineup.


SeaHulks do not need puny Browner!
 
2013-12-04 09:07:53 AM

LucklessWonder: Tebow was Bing's most searched athlete of 2013. I blame Peter King entirely.


I could believe 2011, maybe even 2012... but, 2013?  He hasn't been relevant all year, nobody is really talking about him.   I'd call Tebow the most searched "person that was an athlete at one point" maybe.
 
2013-12-04 09:28:36 AM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/factor/home/results/3312290 1 1~2~331229023~2~331222033~2~331229015~2~331215029~1~331222020~2~331222 024~1~331215013~2~331215015~2~331208020~2~331229024~2~331208024~2~3312 05030~2~331229010~2~331208033~2~331215005~2~331215023~2

Still can get the Jaguars in the playoffs..... at 6-10.

And, other than Baltimore going 0-4 down the stretch.... all the other teams playing along with that doesn't seem all that implausible.
 
2013-12-04 11:02:02 AM

jimmythefly: The thing about the mindset that says "super bowl rings matter the most" is that it is so clearly not true, at least for the actual players.

If superb owl rings really mattered that much, wouldn't it make sense for a top QB (especially one that already has a few seasons under his belt and doesn't need any extra cash) to forego his salary and allow a team to put that money toward building a championship-caliber team around him?

I'm being serious, if someone wanted it that bad, is there any reason a Peyton or a Romo couldn't take a salary of $1 per game and use the leftover money to buy a better team to go win with?


You mean like when Brady took a pay cut then New England cheaped out and let Welker walk?

Yeah these guys have a lot of money, but 20 mil is still 20 mil.
 
2013-12-04 11:23:16 AM

dletter: LucklessWonder: Tebow was Bing's most searched athlete of 2013. I blame Peter King entirely.

I could believe 2011, maybe even 2012... but, 2013?  He hasn't been relevant all year, nobody is really talking about him.   I'd call Tebow the most searched "person that was an athlete at one point" maybe.


probably because the patriots picked him up in the offseason and if the patriots weren't being talked about because of tebow it was hernandez who of course was a former teammate at UF, so it created a whirlwind where tebow would be talked about no matter what, and then it was all anybody talked about in the preseason whether he would make the team, and now people wondering where the dude went since he dropped off the map entirely
 
2013-12-04 11:26:50 AM

stappawho: jimmythefly: The thing about the mindset that says "super bowl rings matter the most" is that it is so clearly not true, at least for the actual players.

If superb owl rings really mattered that much, wouldn't it make sense for a top QB (especially one that already has a few seasons under his belt and doesn't need any extra cash) to forego his salary and allow a team to put that money toward building a championship-caliber team around him?

I'm being serious, if someone wanted it that bad, is there any reason a Peyton or a Romo couldn't take a salary of $1 per game and use the leftover money to buy a better team to go win with?

You mean like when Brady took a pay cut then New England cheaped out and let Welker walk?

Yeah these guys have a lot of money, but 20 mil is still 20 mil.


yeah, there's absolutely ZERO guarantee that a quarterback taking a pay cut will have any result that they wanted as we saw in the Brady-Welker deal... remember before Kraft cheapened out on Welker that Brady restructured his contract only for Kraft to directly say to the press that Brady doesn't control the team, that was a huge thing to say and basically set the tone for the offseason

in the end a HoF QB will make do with whatever they've got, but the idea that a HoF QB could make their situation better by taking less money doesn't take into account the fact that they have no control over the team's bank account
 
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