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2013-12-03 10:06:57 AM  
In other news, you'll soon be able to get an Xbone for $400 without Kinect, but the damage will have already been done.
 
2013-12-03 10:08:16 AM  
Good.  Now if Japan can start bringing the next-gen RPGs, things'll be okay.
 
2013-12-03 10:12:30 AM  
I still have a huge backlog on my 360 that I haven't made much of a dent in, so I'm getting a kick out of not spending $500.
 
2013-12-03 10:12:32 AM  
Every store that I've been in they have both been sold out.  Either way I don't feel like I'm missing much at this point. There just aren't enough games worth buying a new system for yet.
 
2013-12-03 10:15:16 AM  
2.1 million people scrambled to play games that were either badly reviewed, or already available on existing consoles. It's going to take more than a graphics upgrade to separate me from my cash.

I did take advantage of that $199 PS3 Last of Us / Arkham Origins bundle though. That coupled with the $30 it cost me to get all three Uncharted games and I'll have my gaming time cut out for me for the next few months while the early adopters wait for their consoles to have all the features that got touted at their announcements.
 
2013-12-03 10:17:21 AM  

Egoy3k: Every store that I've been in they have both been sold out.  Either way I don't feel like I'm missing much at this point. There just aren't enough games worth buying a new system for yet.


Agreed. I've played all the next gen exclusives and none are worth the price of admission unless you really love video games and have a decent amount of disposable income.

Dead Rising campaign and Killzone multiplayer are my favorite two right now.
 
2013-12-03 10:17:29 AM  
They haven't even launched in the home turf of Japan yet so that's pretty awesome. They really need to get some good games on the market this time around though. I would like to see them win this generation, I'm tired of Microsoft's HaloBox being on top.
 
2013-12-03 10:17:39 AM  
Where are these stores you can walk into to buy an XBox One?  Just did a little digging -- Walmart is sold out, EB Games is sold out, Best Buy is sold out, Target is sold out, Amazon is sold out.
 
2013-12-03 10:18:03 AM  

gnosis301: Good.  Now if Japan can start bringing the next-gen RPGs, things'll be okay.


People still play jRPGs?
 
2013-12-03 10:19:44 AM  

Egoy3k: Every store that I've been in they have both been sold out.  Either way I don't feel like I'm missing much at this point. There just aren't enough games worth buying a new system for yet.


That's mostly because people snatch them and try to flip them on eBay or amazon. Checking amazon shows me one at 800$, and another at 1500$, for both consoles, and that's it. Remember that apparent scarcity can create value and more market share, so xbox may be shipping fewer units to create the appearance of 'it's such a hot seller it is sold out everywhere all the time'.

If the numbers hear out, sony has moved nearly 2 mil, while the last number I saw for Xbox was over one mil but from the 23rd.

Neither console has released in JP yet, but the ps4 will sell much better there predictably, JP never bought in much to the xbox.

It will be interesting to see how this turns out.
 
2013-12-03 10:20:08 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: People still play jRPGs?


Obviously.
 
2013-12-03 10:20:10 AM  

meanmutton: Where are these stores you can walk into to buy an XBox One?  Just did a little digging -- Walmart is sold out, EB Games is sold out, Best Buy is sold out, Target is sold out, Amazon is sold out.


Most of Europe.
 
2013-12-03 10:21:15 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: gnosis301: Good.  Now if Japan can start bringing the next-gen RPGs, things'll be okay.

People still play jRPGs?


Of course they do. Why do you think they are still making them.
 
2013-12-03 10:22:22 AM  

Carth: Egoy3k: Every store that I've been in they have both been sold out.  Either way I don't feel like I'm missing much at this point. There just aren't enough games worth buying a new system for yet.

Agreed. I've played all the next gen exclusives and none are worth the price of admission unless you really love video games and have a decent amount of disposable income.

Dead Rising campaign and Killzone multiplayer are my favorite two right now.


Oh I really love video games but the dead rising games have never appealed to me. The timed nature of the missions, wonky controls and not being able to save on the fly when I need to stop playing my game and go do something else just irritated me to the point where I could never really enjoy any of them.  I'm interested in the new Infamous and MGS 5 though.
 
2013-12-03 10:27:16 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: gnosis301: Good.  Now if Japan can start bringing the next-gen RPGs, things'll be okay.

People still play jRPGs?


Wondering if I doublepost myself, but yes?

I personally love them. The stories are usually ok, not great and missing some cultural points, but it's pretty slim pickings if you enjoy that traditional RPG story type, and don't want to play an action game.

Western RPGs are annoying to me most of the time, because I can't stand the gameplay in Elder scrolls games, even if I love fallout. I also don't care much for the open ended world; I like the story more than the exploration (although that is fun), and it's hard to script a bug-free game tightly when the player can be level 1-1000, and can be a middle aged male hacker or a prepubescent one armed female berserker.

Jrpgs give a decent story and some ok combat mechanics usually, I enjoy leveling, getting new abilities, buying better gear, things like that.

Sorry if your Halo/CoD/elder scrolls isn't the end all be all of gaming?
 
2013-12-03 10:27:33 AM  

Egoy3k: The timed nature of the missions, wonky controls and not being able to save on the fly when I need to stop playing my game and go do something else just irritated me to the point where I could never really enjoy any of them. I'm interested in the new Infamous and MGS 5 though.


They got rid of the timer and save system for the main story line (there is still a nightmare mode with them but it is no longer the default). Controls are still wonky but the game is fun enough in co-op that I can forgive that. It doesn't look 'next gen' and the frame rate craps out sometimes but it is fun enough to overlook those issues.

The new Infamous looks great I'm also really looking forward to some of the smaller games this year. Rime, The Witness, Helldivers and Everybody's gone to the Rapture. If the new Tales of ____ is announced to be cross gen tomorrow I"ll also be happy.
 
2013-12-03 10:32:52 AM  
Nah, I'll wait for Infamous & Thief. Maybe get the other games for cheap.
 
2013-12-03 10:39:33 AM  
/csb

My store had 11 PS4's and 8 Xbox One's on Sunday morning.  Sold out of the PS4 in two hours, the Xboxes in four hours.

/end csb
 
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2013-12-03 10:39:38 AM  

eddievercetti: Nah, I'll wait for Infamous & Thief. Maybe get the other games for cheap.


This. I think I'm waiting for the complete edition of Fallout 4. Although the inFamous bundle I've seen rumored is tempting.
 
2013-12-03 10:40:00 AM  

Carth: meanmutton: Where are these stores you can walk into to buy an XBox One?  Just did a little digging -- Walmart is sold out, EB Games is sold out, Best Buy is sold out, Target is sold out, Amazon is sold out.

Most of Europe.


XBone did admirably in Europe.  Not to the same scope as PS4 (250,000) but not bad either (150,000).

Glad to see Sony actually took notes during the PS3 launch though and finally did really a nice update to the controller.
 
2013-12-03 10:40:01 AM  

meanmutton: Where are these stores you can walk into to buy an XBox One?  Just did a little digging -- Walmart is sold out, EB Games is sold out, Best Buy is sold out, Target is sold out, Amazon is sold out.


But but but subtard made teh funnnnyzors. BSABSBS
 
2013-12-03 10:43:39 AM  

Galvatron Zero: Carth: meanmutton: Where are these stores you can walk into to buy an XBox One?  Just did a little digging -- Walmart is sold out, EB Games is sold out, Best Buy is sold out, Target is sold out, Amazon is sold out.

Most of Europe.

XBone did admirably in Europe.  Not to the same scope as PS4 (250,000) but not bad either (150,000).

Glad to see Sony actually took notes during the PS3 launch though and finally did really a nice update to the controller.


The 250,000 and 150,000 estimates are just for the UK. I haven't been able to find any numbers for the rest of Europe and don't think either company has announced anything.
 
2013-12-03 10:43:55 AM  
I have a new Xbox and it's nice but unless you really, really want to play the new games then it's best to wait a bit.  I will say Xbox Fitness is awesome!  Too bad they are going to charge for it next year.
 
2013-12-03 10:53:19 AM  
The lack of backwards compatibility for 360 titles means I won't buy a new console until I'm done with the existing games. Same for a PS4. I prefer the Xbox controller over the SONY one by a substantial margin, though. Maybe in a year I'll get one or the other. fark the launch systems, I can wait.
 
2013-12-03 10:54:24 AM  

AmazinTim: 2.1 million people scrambled to play games that were either badly reviewed, or already available on existing consoles. It's going to take more than a graphics upgrade to separate me from my cash.

I did take advantage of that $199 PS3 Last of Us / Arkham Origins bundle though. That coupled with the $30 it cost me to get all three Uncharted games and I'll have my gaming time cut out for me for the next few months while the early adopters wait for their consoles to have all the features that got touted at their announcements.


I did the same thing Saturday!  Couldn't pass that up. Been on the 360 so still getting the hang of that controller, but the last of us is fun so far.  Played the first uncharted back when I had a roommate that had a PS3, but not the other 2.  Yeah, I'm all set for a while, at least until I can get a PS4 somewhere.
 
Ant
2013-12-03 10:55:13 AM  
I want an Xbox One for games and media. I have a PS3 and an Xbox 360 right now, and the only thing I use the PS3 for is Blurays and the occasional game of Little Big Planet with my son. Gran Turismo 5, the original reason for buying the PS3, was a disappointment.

Sony's exclusives are just too Japanese for my taste, I think. Maybe when PS4s drop in price, or something really cool comes out for it I'll pick one up.
 
2013-12-03 10:56:59 AM  

digistil: In other news, you'll soon be able to get an Xbone for $400 without Kinect, but the damage will have already been done.


This is the biggest reason I switched to PS4.  I had Kinect for 360 and I found it to be a waste of money.  I used it just about as much as the Wii Fitness board, and the Wii in general.

I'll get one eventually but I'm waiting for the price drop to at most $400.

Love the PS4 so far!
 
2013-12-03 10:59:52 AM  

NicktheSmoker: AmazinTim: 2.1 million people scrambled to play games that were either badly reviewed, or already available on existing consoles. It's going to take more than a graphics upgrade to separate me from my cash.

I did take advantage of that $199 PS3 Last of Us / Arkham Origins bundle though. That coupled with the $30 it cost me to get all three Uncharted games and I'll have my gaming time cut out for me for the next few months while the early adopters wait for their consoles to have all the features that got touted at their announcements.

I did the same thing Saturday!  Couldn't pass that up. Been on the 360 so still getting the hang of that controller, but the last of us is fun so far.  Played the first uncharted back when I had a roommate that had a PS3, but not the other 2.  Yeah, I'm all set for a while, at least until I can get a PS4 somewhere.


Glad to hear another long-time 360 gamer is enjoying a PS3. My experience thus far has been mixed, I got a black screen that was only fixable by swapping HDMI cables (both work fine on my Bluray player and 360) and the controller is taking a bit to get used to. For games, the shooting mechanics in the first Uncharted are pretty poor IMHO. I'm grinding through that game in hopes that the second is better (by all accounts I've read, it is a huge improvement).

I'm trying to play all the Naughty Dog games in order since their games have been the only compelling reason for me to get a PS3. Last of Us will be my reward for finishing the Uncharted series. Yea, I know, it's weird.
 
2013-12-03 11:01:02 AM  

Hand Banana: I would like to see them win this generation, I'm tired of Microsoft's HaloBox being on top.


??????  This is the 3rd generation for Microsoft consoles, the 4th for Sony.  So starting with the Xbox, PS2, the PS2 won handily.  360/PS3 was basically a draw with both being outsold by the wii (and the PS3 ending up a smidge ahead in total sales).  Microsoft has yet to win a generation, though they did lead the PS3 up until early this year is sales of the 360/PS3.
 
2013-12-03 11:01:17 AM  
Set my ps4 up on friday to test and update. Looks good, love the updated ui and controller. Packed it back up so I can unwrap on Christmas day with the kids.
Of course will get the new tv then as well.
 
2013-12-03 11:01:34 AM  
Consoles...oh, you mean those under-powered boxes that play overpriced games. No thanks - I'll stick with my absurdly over-powered beast of a PC - and pick up games on Steam for 75% off (when they go on sale of course).

I used to scoff at PC gaming...I just didn't understand the graphical and performance differences until I purchased Bioshock (a game which I previously played on the 360) for my video editing machine. Being a graphics whore I was blown away by the high resolution textures that were medium-rez at best on the 360. The final nail in the coffin (or console) for me was Gamestop's acquisition of nearly every independent gaming retailer in my market area. 5-6 year old used games were still being sold at 90% of their original price. Being the free market guy that I am - I quickly discovered the Steam marketplace through Valve...fortunately (or unfortunately) at a time when they were having a quarterly sale...ended up purchasing 10 AAA titles for less than the cost of one console title. Not only is my game-play experience enhanced by higher graphical capabilities...but PC gaming is a far more economical alternative.
 
2013-12-03 11:06:43 AM  
Eh, know what I did when the new console generation came out?

I bit the bullet and bought the little 5$ radio communicator to use xBox controllers with my PC (i.e. Steam games).

Turns out Dishonored, for instance, actually  is way better when you can turn the graphics all the way up, so long as you don't have to deal with the awkward keyboard crap on a game designed for a two-stick controller.  Who knew?
 
2013-12-03 11:06:56 AM  

makesthefire: Consoles...oh, you mean those under-powered boxes that play overpriced games. No thanks - I'll stick with my absurdly over-powered beast of a PC - and pick up games on Steam for 75% off (when they go on sale of course).


Over 30 posts before that guy shows up.  Possibly a new console thread record.
 
2013-12-03 11:10:51 AM  

Carth: Of course they do. Why do you think they are still making them.


But they're playing them mostly on the 3DS and Vita, and that's liable to be where the majority of JRPGs will stay.
 
2013-12-03 11:12:14 AM  

makesthefire: Being a graphics whore I was blown away by the high resolution textures that were medium-rez at best on the 360.


Hah, try comparing Skyrim on 360 to PC. Even before installing ENB mods it's insane how much better it looks.
 
2013-12-03 11:15:10 AM  

gnosis301: Good.  Now if Japan can start bringing the next-gen RPGs, things'll be okay.


This.

One of the main things holding me back from getting a PS4 at the moment is waiting for the release of KH3, FFXV and the lack of any Atlus or NIS games at the moment for the PS4.
 
2013-12-03 11:20:32 AM  

makesthefire: Consoles...oh, you mean those under-powered boxes that play overpriced games. No thanks - I'll stick with my absurdly over-powered beast of a PC - and pick up games on Steam for 75% off (when they go on sale of course).

I used to scoff at PC gaming...I just didn't understand the graphical and performance differences until I purchased Bioshock (a game which I previously played on the 360) for my video editing machine. Being a graphics whore I was blown away by the high resolution textures that were medium-rez at best on the 360. The final nail in the coffin (or console) for me was Gamestop's acquisition of nearly every independent gaming retailer in my market area. 5-6 year old used games were still being sold at 90% of their original price. Being the free market guy that I am - I quickly discovered the Steam marketplace through Valve...fortunately (or unfortunately) at a time when they were having a quarterly sale...ended up purchasing 10 AAA titles for less than the cost of one console title. Not only is my game-play experience enhanced by higher graphical capabilities...but PC gaming is a far more economical alternative.


What resolution are you running Red Dead Redemption and Last of US at? Oh whats that? You can't play either of those games on PC?

whynotboth.gif
 
2013-12-03 11:21:58 AM  

lemurs: Carth: Of course they do. Why do you think they are still making them.

But they're playing them mostly on the 3DS and Vita, and that's liable to be where the majority of JRPGs will stay.


They will and honestly the handhelds are great platforms for them. Persona 5, KH3, FFXV and Tales of ____ will come to home consoles os it will be interesting to see how they do.
 
2013-12-03 11:23:09 AM  
Seeing as I was at target and Walmart yesterday, and neither had either console in stock, I'm going to guess this is a Sony fellatio thread.
 
2013-12-03 11:24:05 AM  

Carth: What resolution are you running Red Dead Redemption and Last of US at?


Is it hard to play Kerbal Space Program with sticks?
 
2013-12-03 11:24:34 AM  

lemurs: Carth: Of course they do. Why do you think they are still making them.

But they're playing them mostly on the 3DS and Vita, and that's liable to be where the majority of JRPGs will stay.


PS Vita TV has my interest with this regards. Give me my RPGs on a full screen and I will throw my wallet at you.
 
2013-12-03 11:28:09 AM  

Mentalpatient87: Carth: What resolution are you running Red Dead Redemption and Last of US at?

Is it hard to play Kerbal Space Program with sticks?


Why not both? The  PC only gamers are normally the ones with a laughable elitist attitude. If they liked games as much as they pretend they'd buy consoles to play the exclusives as well. I know I"d feel like I was missing out if i had to pick one or the other.
 
2013-12-03 11:28:34 AM  

Carth: makesthefire: Consoles...oh, you mean those under-powered boxes that play overpriced games. No thanks - I'll stick with my absurdly over-powered beast of a PC - and pick up games on Steam for 75% off (when they go on sale of course).

I used to scoff at PC gaming...I just didn't understand the graphical and performance differences until I purchased Bioshock (a game which I previously played on the 360) for my video editing machine. Being a graphics whore I was blown away by the high resolution textures that were medium-rez at best on the 360. The final nail in the coffin (or console) for me was Gamestop's acquisition of nearly every independent gaming retailer in my market area. 5-6 year old used games were still being sold at 90% of their original price. Being the free market guy that I am - I quickly discovered the Steam marketplace through Valve...fortunately (or unfortunately) at a time when they were having a quarterly sale...ended up purchasing 10 AAA titles for less than the cost of one console title. Not only is my game-play experience enhanced by higher graphical capabilities...but PC gaming is a far more economical alternative.

What resolution are you running Red Dead Redemption and Last of US at? Oh whats that? You can't play either of those games on PC?

whynotboth.gif


Seriously. We both have PCs, and we have two TVs and two 360s in our living room. We're gamers. We like gaming in our living room because our couch and poofy armchair are super comfy. Plus, it's pretty effortless to load up a co-op game like Borderlands, Left 4 Dead, or Halo and just play for hours and hours in comfort. But there are games we play on PC together. Unfortunately swamp ass can be a problem with our particular office chairs, and Seattle is humid. Also, Guitar Hero killed my right wrist, so now mouse gaming is painful for me. But I still do it, just less often and for shorter stretches of time. The argument that it's either PC gaming or console gaming is just ridiculous.
 
2013-12-03 11:29:15 AM  

Carth: makesthefire: Consoles...oh, you mean those under-powered boxes that play overpriced games. No thanks - I'll stick with my absurdly over-powered beast of a PC - and pick up games on Steam for 75% off (when they go on sale of course).

I used to scoff at PC gaming...I just didn't understand the graphical and performance differences until I purchased Bioshock (a game which I previously played on the 360) for my video editing machine. Being a graphics whore I was blown away by the high resolution textures that were medium-rez at best on the 360. The final nail in the coffin (or console) for me was Gamestop's acquisition of nearly every independent gaming retailer in my market area. 5-6 year old used games were still being sold at 90% of their original price. Being the free market guy that I am - I quickly discovered the Steam marketplace through Valve...fortunately (or unfortunately) at a time when they were having a quarterly sale...ended up purchasing 10 AAA titles for less than the cost of one console title. Not only is my game-play experience enhanced by higher graphical capabilities...but PC gaming is a far more economical alternative.

What resolution are you running Red Dead Redemption and Last of US at? Oh whats that? You can't play either of those games on PC?

whynotboth.gif


Yeah two games is worth a $500 hardware purchase
 
2013-12-03 11:29:47 AM  
I'm deep into into my third decade of still hoping against all hope that Santa brings me an Easy Bake Oven for X-mas.
 
2013-12-03 11:30:23 AM  

Mentalpatient87: Carth: What resolution are you running Red Dead Redemption and Last of US at?

Is it hard to play Kerbal Space Program with sticks?


My roommate is farking nuts about that game for the last few months, an unhealthy amount. He walked me through the basics for a couple hours but it just didn't do anything for me, I don't get it.

My current PC project is finishing Amnesia finally so I can get Machine for Pigs, I love those and the Penumbra games. Console peasantry is for Mario 3D World and Uncharted 3, keepin' me busy.

/learned long ago not to take sides when people want to tell other people they're playing games in the wrong ecosystem
 
2013-12-03 11:33:06 AM  

Tax Boy: I still have a huge backlog on my 360 that I haven't made much of a dent in, so I'm getting a kick out of not spending $500.


Between Xbox 360, PS3, and Steam sales, I think I'm sitting on roughly 40-50 unplayed games right now.  Honestly, I don't plan to move to the "next gen" ever, at this point.
 
2013-12-03 11:33:33 AM  

Carth: Why not both?


I know, I'm just poking at you.
 
2013-12-03 11:33:34 AM  

CPennypacker: Carth: makesthefire: Consoles...oh, you mean those under-powered boxes that play overpriced games. No thanks - I'll stick with my absurdly over-powered beast of a PC - and pick up games on Steam for 75% off (when they go on sale of course).

I used to scoff at PC gaming...I just didn't understand the graphical and performance differences until I purchased Bioshock (a game which I previously played on the 360) for my video editing machine. Being a graphics whore I was blown away by the high resolution textures that were medium-rez at best on the 360. The final nail in the coffin (or console) for me was Gamestop's acquisition of nearly every independent gaming retailer in my market area. 5-6 year old used games were still being sold at 90% of their original price. Being the free market guy that I am - I quickly discovered the Steam marketplace through Valve...fortunately (or unfortunately) at a time when they were having a quarterly sale...ended up purchasing 10 AAA titles for less than the cost of one console title. Not only is my game-play experience enhanced by higher graphical capabilities...but PC gaming is a far more economical alternative.

What resolution are you running Red Dead Redemption and Last of US at? Oh whats that? You can't play either of those games on PC?

whynotboth.gif

Yeah two games is worth a $500 hardware purchase


You can buy a brand new PS3 or XBox 360 for $200 and play both of those games. When was the last time you dropped $200 on a new graphics card for your PC?
 
2013-12-03 11:35:06 AM  

CPennypacker: Carth: makesthefire: Consoles...oh, you mean those under-powered boxes that play overpriced games. No thanks - I'll stick with my absurdly over-powered beast of a PC - and pick up games on Steam for 75% off (when they go on sale of course).

I used to scoff at PC gaming...I just didn't understand the graphical and performance differences until I purchased Bioshock (a game which I previously played on the 360) for my video editing machine. Being a graphics whore I was blown away by the high resolution textures that were medium-rez at best on the 360. The final nail in the coffin (or console) for me was Gamestop's acquisition of nearly every independent gaming retailer in my market area. 5-6 year old used games were still being sold at 90% of their original price. Being the free market guy that I am - I quickly discovered the Steam marketplace through Valve...fortunately (or unfortunately) at a time when they were having a quarterly sale...ended up purchasing 10 AAA titles for less than the cost of one console title. Not only is my game-play experience enhanced by higher graphical capabilities...but PC gaming is a far more economical alternative.

What resolution are you running Red Dead Redemption and Last of US at? Oh whats that? You can't play either of those games on PC?

whynotboth.gif

Yeah two games is worth a $500 hardware purchase


Those are both on systems under $200.
 
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