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(Examiner)   Government screws up again. The US Postal Service gets sued for making a Statue of Liberty stamp based on the statue outside the New York-New York Casino hotel in Las Vegas instead of the original - without sculptor's permission   (examiner.com) divider line 41
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2013-12-03 09:18:42 AM
This thread is useless without pictures.
 
2013-12-03 09:19:41 AM
When will Farkers start filing lawsuits against Fark for greenlighting Examiner "articles"?
 
2013-12-03 09:20:50 AM
Did the casino pay royalties to the US government when they copied the statue for their casino? No?

Case dismissed.
 
2013-12-03 09:22:10 AM
Vegas:
upload.wikimedia.org


New York:
images.nymag.com
 
2013-12-03 09:23:59 AM
dphotomagazine.s3.amazonaws.com
blogs.villagevoice.com
 
2013-12-03 09:26:29 AM
Bartholdi has been dead for quite a while.
What makes this copy-cat in Vegas think he has any rights to the likeness?
 
2013-12-03 09:27:48 AM
Darrell Issa to hold Congressional hearings in 3...2...
 
2013-12-03 09:28:17 AM
good luck with that.
 
2013-12-03 09:28:22 AM
I don't see all that much difference myself. Maybe the government should counter sue him for copying the statue in the first place.

In any event the judge should tell him to fark off.
 
2013-12-03 09:33:18 AM
Probably contracted that out like the health care website. But it's all good because real companies do things more efficiently and cost less taxpayer money than government people drinking coffee all day, amirite?
 
2013-12-03 09:35:59 AM

Hand Banana: I don't see all that much difference myself. Maybe the government should counter sue him for copying the statue in the first place.

In any event the judge should tell him to fark off.


My thoughts exactly.
 
2013-12-03 09:36:32 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-03 09:39:04 AM
Still doesn't beat the 1995 LOVE stamp featuring the Angel of Death.
 
2013-12-03 09:39:23 AM
I thought the postal service in the US was privatized and no longer a branch of the government.
 
2013-12-03 09:41:51 AM
If I draw a picture of the Mona Lisa and they put it on a stamp, they're using my art, not da Vinci's.
 
2013-12-03 09:43:36 AM
If I were the judge, I would rule he could get a percentage of their profits during the last 2 years.

Oh, they operated at a loss?  All right, make him pay a percentage of that.
 
2013-12-03 09:45:04 AM

ZombieBear: I thought the postal service in the US was privatized and no longer a branch of the government.


Not really privatized per se, but they don't get any money from taxes anymore.
 
2013-12-03 09:45:31 AM
blog.zap2it.com
 
2013-12-03 09:51:45 AM
I think the real question is how this "artist" can claim to be one and know nothing of Fair Use
 
2013-12-03 09:58:22 AM
Old News, this came out a couple years ago.

Where have you all been!
 
2013-12-03 10:14:53 AM
If the USPS loses and has to pay that guy, they might not post a profit this year.
 
2013-12-03 10:37:58 AM
media.screened.com

/since everyone is posting pictures of the statue.
 
2013-12-03 10:39:01 AM

edmo: Probably contracted that out like the health care website. But it's all good because real companies do things more efficiently and cost less taxpayer money than government people drinking coffee all day, amirite?


So what government agency do you "work" for?
 
2013-12-03 10:54:00 AM

47 is the new 42: ZombieBear: I thought the postal service in the US was privatized and no longer a branch of the government.

Not really privatized per se, but they don't get any money from taxes anymore.


/chuckle
 
2013-12-03 11:07:34 AM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: [blog.zap2it.com image 500x300]


It was easier to compare when you found bigger images, but the Vegas one was used on the stamp. However, I do think the judge still won't rule for the plaintiff, since his "work" is not derivative (it's almost a literal copy), so in fact, the defendent should be the one suing.
 
2013-12-03 11:14:13 AM

Slaxl: [media.screened.com image 640x360]

/since everyone is posting pictures of the statue.


media.sfx.co.uk
 
2013-12-03 11:20:16 AM

People_are_Idiots: Ctrl-Alt-Del: [blog.zap2it.com image 500x300]

It was easier to compare when you found bigger images, but the Vegas one was used on the stamp. However, I do think the judge still won't rule for the plaintiff, since his "work" is not derivative (it's almost a literal copy), so in fact, the defendent should be the one suing.


That and it wouldn't surprise me if the judge ruled that he simply can't sue the Postal Service.
 
2013-12-03 11:20:30 AM
I was going to call BS, but the stamp definitely looks more the the LV version, which is farked up to begin with.
 
2013-12-03 11:39:47 AM

big pig peaches: I was going to call BS, but the stamp definitely looks more the the LV version, which is farked up to begin with.


This.

The LV sculpture messed up the nose and looks like she is rolling her eyes.
 
2013-12-03 11:42:34 AM
The Vegas one has bigger knockers.
 
2013-12-03 11:52:39 AM

big pig peaches: I was going to call BS, but the stamp definitely looks more the the LV version, which is farked up to begin with.


BS on the law suit or the stamp?

Because the stamp being of the Vegas copy and not the original statue is old news from 2 years ago when the stamp came out.

Apparently the job of stamp designer means going to Google and doing an image search for statue of liberty and not checking your source.
 
2013-12-03 12:04:39 PM
gerrycanavan.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-03 12:30:51 PM

ZombieBear: I thought the postal service in the US was privatized and no longer a branch of the government.


No.

The US Postal Service (Which replaced the United States Post Office Department in 1972) is a US Government owned corporation, it still has a legal monopoly on letter delivery in the US, it is still subject to Congressional administration (like the poison pill impossible pension funding demands), it still has US Postal Inspection Service, who are sworn Federal law enforcement officials including uniformed police and plainclothes inspectors.

It doesn't get taxpayer money anymore though, it's expected to fund itself.
 
2013-12-03 12:42:50 PM
Venkman: Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Winston: Wonder what?

Venkman: Whether she's naked under that toga. She *is* French. You know that.
 
2013-12-03 12:47:05 PM
Silverstaff:

The US Postal Service (Which replaced the United States Post Office Department in 1972) is a US Government owned corporation ...

Also, fun fact: be careful what you say or do to a Postal Service employee (even though many of them nowadays are contractors and not actual Federal employees). Assaulting an employee of the Postal Service is a federal crime.
 
2013-12-03 12:47:06 PM

Hand Banana: I don't see all that much difference myself.


The Las Vegas version has bigger boobs...

lack of warmth: The LV sculpture messed up the nose and looks like she is rolling her eyes.


...and a botched facelift and nose job.
 
2013-12-03 12:49:35 PM

mcmnky: Apparently the job of stamp designer means going to Google and doing an image search for statue of liberty and not checking your source.


Happens all the time in the .gov. I work for the Air Force (as a contractor), and I've seen rampant use (appropriation) of works created by private industry for government purposes. One example: the Air Force loves heraldic designs for various projects. Let's just say that the lawyers who work for Marvel Comics would be very interested to see how much of their stuff gets stolen.
 
2013-12-03 01:02:20 PM
Sculptor:  "Your honor I say that I am a bad enough artist that my copy is actually a derivative work."
 
2013-12-03 03:15:18 PM
As we learned from the Jonathan Coulton / Glee kerfluffle, the LV artist has no standing to sue. As a derivative work, the copyright stays with the original artist, in this case, the Government, while the derivative work receives extremely limited copyright protection. Since the USPS has permission from the original rights holder, the Government, all is well.
 
2013-12-03 07:22:30 PM

myrrh: Silverstaff:

The US Postal Service (Which replaced the United States Post Office Department in 1972) is a US Government owned corporation ...

Also, fun fact: be careful what you say or do to a Postal Service employee (even though many of them nowadays are contractors and not actual Federal employees). Assaulting an employee of the Postal Service is a federal crime.


Fun fact: Be careful what you say to a postal employee - 18 USC 1001 makes lying to a Federal Agency a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison. Since your postman is an official representative of the USPS, lying to him is a federal crime.
 
2013-12-03 09:55:03 PM
Can't see this working out for the guy,
 
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